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Re: PIC S3: The Last Generation

This had its flaws, but it's easily the best season of NuTrek and would be probably in my top 10 of Trek seasons overall.

Why?:
* Shaw was the best new character since Deep Space Nine.
* This is the best Riker has ever been.
* This is the best the Riker-Picard dynamic has ever been.
* This is the best Crusher has ever been.
* This is arguably the best Worf has ever been.
* The music is the best of any Star Trek TV show (even if it leaned on old cues a lot). The Titan theme is great.
* I kind of wish they had renamed Data, but this version of him is interesting. I was all Data'd out, but I'd watch an episode or two about this one.
* Season 3 has some of the best lines (Worf's intro to Raffi), action beats (Titan breaking the tractor beam) and dialogue scenes (Ro-Picard) in all of Star Trek. There are a few whiffs in there, sure, but also some home runs.

It wasn't perfect. To me, 3-4-5 was the best part of the season, which isn't ideal, but I'd give every episode a thumbs up except for Episode 7, which was middling, but not terrible.

I really, really don't understand those of you who keep watching when you hate it. But please do keep watching. The view-counters don't know you hate it. :)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, everyone! LLAP

Re: PIC S3: Surrender

That was Star Trek as Marvel movie, and I was here for it. It was really silly in parts, but witty, grinning-ear-to-ear silly.

That's a three-and-a-half to four-star outing for me.

I'm hoping the Legacy set-up (if it ever happens) is that Shaw realizes he hates command and takes over Titan engineering, with Seven as captain. That would be appointment viewing.

Re: PIC S3: The Bounty

"As others have pointed out, they alternated been "omg we're in a hurry" and having lengthy leisurely conversations and such."

First Star Trek episode? ;)

Re: PIC S3: The Bounty

This is my least favourite of the season, but still liked it. Two and a half or three stars. I'll decide on the rewatch. Most of the plotting struck me as silly -- particularly Daystrom being completely unmanned -- but all the character stuff worked. I am not a shipper but La Forge and Jack, ship me up.

And I think this is the first episode that I probably would have liked more if I hadn't seen the trailer, the Moriarty and the Soongdroid having been spoiled.

It's been telegraphed since episode 1 that they'll take something from the fleet museum, but now I want them to take everything. If Voyager, the Defiant, and Kirk's Enterprise are all in the final battle, then fan-service me hard, I'll pay extra.

Re: PIC S3: Imposters

"If nothing else, PS3 proves that if repeatedly set the bar so very low than even mediocre Trek will seem spectacular by comparison."

I'm feeling pretty much the opposite -- that the first years of NuTrek were so bad that some people aren't giving the benefit of the doubt. Discovery's beyond hope, I think, but the other four shows - four! - are all good and sometimes great right now. And there's some rose-coloured glasses about the old shows: DS9 has been the only Star Trek show out of the 11 too have more hits than misses (about 50/50 for TOS and TNG).

Re: PIC S3: Imposters

The Raffi-Worf stuff this episode was only mid, but everything on the Titan was perfect. This is a great show.

Re: PIC S3: No Win Scenario

I've liked four episodes in a row, best run since DS9 I think (might have been four episodes in a row somewhere in one of the two Pike seasons of NuTrek, not sure).

Swearing doesn't bother me, though I understand your mileage may vary on that. But I don't understand people's hang-ups with 'anochronistic' language. You never say worth his salt, spill the beans, cart before the horse, dressed to the nines, etc. etc.? Between "fruity as a nutcase" and "My God, Bones" Star Trek III must have killed the language purists.

I do wish we could just accept that some of us are liking this and some of us aren't without coming up with elaborate reasons for why the other person is wrongheaded, but that's modern fandom, I guess. I'm enjoying this season, and it's not because my standards are lowered, my taste is objectively bad, I'm a nostalgia fanboy or whatever. I like it because there are more things in this that I like than things I don't. And I assume the balance is the opposite for someone who doesn't. It can really be that simple.

So far for me:
Ep. 1: 3
Ep. 2: 3
Ep.3: 3.5
Ep.4: 3.5

Re: PIC S3: Seventeen Seconds

So far for me:
Ep. 1: ***
Ep. 2: ***
Ep. 3: ***1/2

I get if the show is too (emotionally) dark for any given person, but then I don't understand why you're still watching. Beyond that, the surest sign to me that this season is much better than the other live-action nuTrek so far is that most of the hate I'm seeing online is not about plot lines or scenes, but about petty stuff: He has the wrong accent! Why does an energy weapon need to load! I think it's quite good. Most of my issues have to do with stuff that comes up all the time on all the treks: loosey-gooseyness with the command structure and how technology works. But I've been looking past that stuff since The Menagerie. I think this season is solid.

Re: PIC S3: The Next Generation

Also three stars out of four for me. The best part was Capt. Shaw. The worst part is that there are two "mysteries" that I think I've already figured out. Good start, though!

Re: PIC S1: Remembrance

Three stars of four for me. I thought it was just about perfect until the big death - the rest after that was fine but very perfunctory. Picard getting up off the couch didn't have the same impact as his heart to heart about what Data means to him or his interview, when it should probably have been the linchpin of the episode.

Overall, though, it had Discovery's excellent special effects, DS9's sometimes slow burn and geopolitics and Patrick Stewart. That's pretty darn good!

I don't mind people saying they didn't like it (or any Star Trek, I really dislike Voyager), but criminy I've had it with "This isn't Star Trek" complaints. Star Trek has like 775 episodes now, it can be lots of things. I've seen complaints about the fights not being Star Trek, but there are lots and lots of fistfights in Star Trek, dating right back to the original series. Or I've seen complaints about the music, when the Romulan music is the original TOS music just tweaked slightly. And of course the "Star Trek shouldn't get political" thing is like saying Disney ruined their latest film by making it animated.

That off my chest, we're done here. *rips off mic, leaves interview*