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Silly
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 7:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Symbiosis

As clunky as the Tasha/Wesley scene was, it was not as much ripped from a school anti-drug film as it may seem, at least not where I lived. I was a teen and it was eye poppingly informative. All the anti drug stuff I had seen pretty much went direct for the pure hell of heroin or whatever addiction. What was NEVER presented was that it might just FEEL GOOD. So, as goofy as Wesley’s aww-shucks thing was, for many of us in the real world, it was reality.

I’m assuming the powers that be, at least where I lived, never explained the “positivess” that drug use had because it would seem like promoting it or something. I don’t know though, because you would see someone smoking weed or something without the extreme consequences of worst case heroine abuse or whatever, and it’s a pretty quick leap that you were being lied to, so I question this rationale.

Anyway, they could have played this scene better. It would go a long ways if Wesley had just nodded in befuddledment, rather than the aw-shucks thing they went with.
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Gerontius
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 7:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Having people act as if they know you when they've never actually met you I believe is a pretty common thing that happens to TV actors and presenters. It's a natural enough kind of misunderstanding. It isn't generally seen in itself as any kind of sexual harassment, unless that is what actually takes place in the course of the interaction.
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Dirk
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 7:09pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Heart of Stone

Loved the Nog story. Wonderful acting from Aron Eisenberg. Sisko was in top form.
The Kira and Odo story seemed pretty fishy to me, especially after the constable started saying "something isn't right." Rene's acting, especially in Odo oriented episodes, is the one of the high points of the Trek franchise for me.
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Luke Fernandes
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 6:44pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S4: Blood on the Scales

The character assassination continues. On all sides. Before they made Roslin and Adama assholes, now they make Zarek kill the quorum like a school spree shooter. The writers have their fingers on the scales and they want us to believe that Gaeta and Zarek are bad here.

It’s painful watching this show rooting for Gaeta because the writers want us to be somewhat sympathetic to Adama and co., or rather the nepotistic love boat co-presidency which ignores the law when the Roslin/Adama duo think they know best. Gross.

Baltar, who killed billions of people and collaborated with the Cylons on New Caprica, is alive while Gaeta is dead? This season is full of suckage.
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MidshipmanNorris
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 6:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S4: For the Cause

Jammer.

We need to talk about "For The Cause."

Post-9/11, the anti-American sentiment of ... let's say, 'other nations', has become quite evident.

This is the episode in which it's revealed that Eddington has been working for the Maquis all along. You are selling it short. For someone who is re-watching DS9 after having watched it in the first run, now in 2020... This is all powerful stuff. Certainly more compelling in retrospect than the fluff which Discovery and Picard have provided us with.

Perhaps nostalgia glasses are blurring my view of what this might have been regarded as in the first run of the series. But looking back, I wish I had had a better understanding of what I was watching as a teenager.

This is good stuff, and certainly may have fallen on deaf ears back in the day.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 6:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

You might be right, Josh.

I'm hoping you're not though, because you being correct means the creators of this new Trek show know so little about the franchise that they don't even know how a starship is supposed to function.

Are people supposed to take a turbolift through dense superheated nacelle plasma just to service the deflector? It's a moronic design.

PS ... they can't even get the angles right in that drawing. It looks like the ship was left in the sun too long and it started to warp (no pun intended)
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Dave in MN
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 6:05pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

@ Peter G.

It's hilarious you said that because I think of this as TNG's "Tuvix".
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Peter G.
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 5:58pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Haha, the firestorm has begun again! I love it. This is TNG's For the Uniform.

For what it's worth I think it's pretty indisputable that Geordi did nothing wrong in Booby Trap. The entire episode is about how technology can be your undoing without you realize it, and it makes Geordi have a tough time with people. It's no accident he got it on with the computer, he knows computers!

To me the 'wrong' stuff is all in this episode. He needn't have had any guilt about the holoimage *if not for the fact* that in this episode he was acting entitled to a relationship with the real Leah on account of his encounter with the hologram. Not only that, in so many words he flat out tells Guinan that they're totally gonna get it on when they meet, and she rolls her eyes. That is the problem.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 5:44pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

If you find a wallet on the ground and keep it, it's a crime of opportunity. You didn't set out to rob anyone, but you're still taking advantage of the situation for your own benefit.

This is literally no different.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 5:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

It doesn't matter if Geordi intentionally created her or not.

Over a thousand lives were at risk and Geordi allowed the program to distract him with needless personal asides that ate up precious time. Any Starfleet officer wirth their salt would've told the computer to knock off the romantic stuff. But Geordi didn't .... and he even made sure to go back (once the emergency was done) to see her holo-duplicate once again and kiss her.

And once the emergency had passed? Did Geordi delete the program?

Just because he didn't create the program doesn't mean he didn't take advantage of it (and her).
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Booming
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 5:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

I rewatched the scenes before I wrote my last comment. Again he got a massage from holo Leah and he kissed holo Leah. As Dave said he was clearly romantically involved with the hologram.

He created a hologram of Leah which then provided him with physical pleasure (massage, kissing).
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Jason R.
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 5:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

@Booming the creation of the hologram and its behaviour was clearly *unintentional*. Rewatch Booby Trap. Not up for debate.

I don't understand why people can't process this fact. Have to keep pointing it out every couple years.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 5:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Also, are we supposed to believe that Geordi remembered she loves fungili a year and a half later?

Obviously Geordi reran the program to brush up on her personal details.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Geordi had a facsimile of her saved in the computer: a copy that was made without her consent in which Geordi engaged romantically. He didn't just "delve into her personal history".
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Gerontius
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Why run to the holodeck? Because he realises that however innocent everything was, Leah is going to jump to the wrong conclusion. He wanrts to get there before that happens and explain what happened and put it in context.

And remember, Geordi didn't "create" the hologram, the ships computer did that without him intending to, and it came up with the holographic Leah's script, and with any and all of Leah's actions. Which were presumably based on its understanding of the way she would have been likely to behave with a trusted colleague she liked. The trouble was that, for the real Leah, Geordi wasn't a trusted colleague she liked. Not until later in the episode.

And if his delving into her personal history didn't go beyond finding out a favourite food and didn't even tell him that she was married, it couldn't have been that intrusive.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:06pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

* Geordi
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Booming
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 3:49pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Another question is why Geordie runs to the holodeck when he hears that Leah went to the holodeck? Why run when he has nothing to hide?
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Booming
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 3:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

"And trying to find out what food someone likes before setting up a meal amounts to invading their personal space....? "
It can be but what Geordie did went far beyond that. He not only created a hologram with her personality files, he got a massage from holo leah and also kissed her (in Booby Trap). That is not some boys will be boys thing. That is a serious invasion of privacy and she is justified in feeling violated.

In galaxy child Leah asks him how far it went and Geordie flat out lies to her (It was a professional cooperation) and ends his tirade with the sentence:" I offered you friendship." which he certainly did not.
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Cjanus
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 11:33am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Dark Page

Pros:

- I enjoyed the solid and relatable (but not done-to-death) set-up: a character encounters a race of telepaths and the telepaths discover a secret lurking in her psyche. Most episodes se to focus on ship-in-jeopardy plots or “We’ve encountered a strange phenomenon,” or political intrigue with other races, so I find the different ones refreshing. This one, as well as “Eye of the Beholder”, “Lower Decks” and even the Beverly ghost story all appeal to me because they break the mold.

- I appreciated seeing (finally) a Lwaxana episode that wasn’t about her pursuit of men and romance. The series-long portrayal of her as an aggressive menopausal man-chaser (whom all the male series regulars flee from and mock) is IMO boring, grating and borderline sexist towards older women. (It doesn’t help that Pulaski was axed after a year and that Picard’s love interests are noticeably younger than he is. A pattern emerges.). While Lwaxana was partly redeemed in a couple past episodes - taking a political stance in Half a Life, and admitting her loneliness in the Alexander/mudbath ep - even those episodes revolve around her one-note pursuit of male companionship. Here, at least the writers let her do something (slightly) different.

Cons:

- This doesn’t feel like a seventh-season plot. I wish the writers had fleshed her out with a backstory by season 3 or 4 - or let it go.

- While at least it’s not a romance, it’s barely better: a mawkish motherhood drama. Compare this with Deanna, who at least got to stretch beyond her counselor persona in a couple eps (“Face of the Enemy” and “Disaster”). By contrast, every single Lwaxana story seems to mindlessly reconfirm her as needy, emotional, and defined by relationships, This is lazy and trite writing. The character gained more pathos here - but she didn’t gain more layers.

3 stars for the set-up; 1.5 for the resolution.
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AKC
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 10:56am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: That Which Survives

I felt like Spock was, while certainly different, not exactly out of character in this episode. It was almost like a satirized version of him. He corrects someone's number almost every episode, we just saw it more frequently here. Same for his comments about feels and guesses, despite engaging in speculation himself.

But this was absolutely the most fun I had watching Spock. He has so many great quotes, "not only illogical, but unworthy of refute" being my favorite.
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Gerontius
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 9:24am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

It was perfectly reasonable of Leah to misunderstand what Geordi had done, and object to what she thought he had, and it was perfectly natural that he should protest at being misjudged. And it was perfectly in character that when the misunderstanding was cleared up she should say sorry. It would have been better perhaps if they'd included him saying sorry as well, rather than leaving it to be taken as understood. Patching up a quarrel generally means you both indicate you're sorry, in my experience.

As for failing to avoid all this by explaining in advance, yes that was a mistake, but the kind of mistake anyone might make, especially an awkward young man probably wary of things being misinterpreted (as they were).

And trying to find out what food someone likes before setting up a meal amounts to invading their personal space....?
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Jason R.
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 7:57am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

@Booming we also know what they know: that Geordie never did anything with the hologram and that its creation was just a fluke / comedy of errors from Boobie Trap.
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Dirk
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 7:07am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Parallels

@Dave in MN

I've been wondering if anyone else thought this. Worf has a pretty limited range as a character, and he did that well in most of TNG. And as much as I loved DS9, I didn't think he fit in (he usurped Odo's part in the crew). His character just wasn't dynamic enough for the stories, and his 'character development' came off as melodramatic.
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Josh
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 1:39am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

Dave, if you look at the full promotional poster, the arrow is coming from the words "lower decks" and pointing to the lower rear of the saucer section, which I thought was mostly (senior) crew quarters. Maybe it's best to not think about it too much.
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Booming
Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 1:37am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Ok I have to add one thing.
The confusion/debate about this episode comes from differing perspectives. Viewed from the outside Geordie is plain wrong and comes across a creepy and threatening. One should not behave like Geordie did. But we know that Geordie is a nice and intelligent guy who wouldn't hurt a fly. That could be the reason why the writers stumbled into this story. They know the character as well.
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