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Greg
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 1:20pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

Hey guys, for all the people that said Picard/Kamin's friend was named Batai yes, you are right. It had been so long since I had seen the episode I forgot the spelling and just remembered the pronunciation. But, when I listen to the pronunciation it sounds like patay and the first time I showed the episode to my then gf which was a filipina she said, "Patay, oh he's dead." I also showed it to several pinoy friends of mine and they all hear the pronunciation as patay. I can't think that it's simply a coincidence that Kaman's friend, who has been dead for a thousand years, has a name that just happens to sound exactly like the tagalog word for dead. And if it is a coincidence it seems to be a hell of a long shot.
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Bob (a different one)
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 1:05pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

...so you didn't actually have a point then, did you?
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Jason R.
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 1:01pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

"Picard became Kamin, right? "

Only in the sense that Data became Sherlock Holmes on the holodeck.
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Bob (a different one)
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 12:41pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, Jason. Picard became Kamin, right? His chubby best friend was Batai.

ELINE: "The rest of us have been gone for a thousand years. If you remember what we were, and how we lived, then we'll have found life again."
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Jason R.
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 12:18pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

"Well, then they REALLY tipped their hand because "Batai" is the Tagalog word for "Ancient artifact generated best buddy of a flute playing member of an alien race that's been dead for a thousand years."

Well then they really dropped the ball as Picard wasn't a member of an alien race that's been dead for a thousand years.
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Top Hat
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 12:08pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

Morgan Gendel was a Beatles fan and also wanted to call his episode "Starship Mine" "Revolution" after that Beatles song https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Morgan_Gendel. Wouldn't really have fit, though; plus "Revolution," though technically a B-side, was scarcely an obscure track.
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Buckbart
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:30am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S4: Rules of Engagement

The last line is the best one. “Wait until you get four pops on that collar. You’ll wish you had gone into botany!”
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DonMel
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:20am (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S4: Prey

I really am having a hard time trying to understand Starfleet's approach to this compassion for all sentient beings thing and where is the line drawn. Are you supposed to help the wounded even if they are a known threat to you?

That's like the Defiant stopping to help an in distress Jem'Hadar ship. It doesn't make any sense.

Janeway is risking the whole crew for this alien that 1. broke onto the ship causing a breach 2. attacked crew members 3. Is being hunted by the Hirogen who have them outshipped.

I get showing compassion but this seems pretty dangerous. They are in a unique situation in the Delta Quadrant where the same rules shouldn't apply, or at least not be as black and white as Janeway tries to make them seem to Seven.

Sometimes I think she tried so hard to uphold her morals and commitment to the uniform that she forgot they were on their own far from home and didn't have the luxury to be the perfect little Starfleet officers.
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Bob (a different one)
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 10:37am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

"how do you get that Picard's friend is named "Patay"? It's "Batai""


Well, then they REALLY tipped their hand because "Batai" is the Tagalog word for "Ancient artifact generated best buddy of a flute playing member of an alien race that's been dead for a thousand years."

Surprised no one has picked up on that before.
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William B
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 10:31am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

omg haha amazing.
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Bob (a different one)
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 10:22am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

Prodigy is off to a great start:

https://trekmovie.com/2021/02/17/billy-campbell-talks-reprising-and-redeeming-his-okona-character-on-star-trek-prodigy/
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Bob (a different one)
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 10:19am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

I would like to see an R rated Klingon-centric show. Really flesh out their society while keeping the violence and political intrigue.
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Bob (a different one)
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 10:11am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Shadows and Symbols

"She's my least favorite character in ALL of old school Trek, a total waste of precious screen time."


There is no way that Ezri is worse than Rom, Neelix, Wes, Chekov, Yar, or Troi.

Look, I think they picked an awkward time to introduce the character, and "Field of Fire" and "Prodigal Daughter" felt shoehorned in at the last minute, but on the flip side, I'm not very confident that the writers would have substituted better episodes than what we got. There were two lame holodeck episodes that season, a terrible follow-up to "Statistical Probabilities" and a combo Ferrengi/Mirror Universe episode. They would probably have snuck in another Lwaxana episode in if they had had an available slot so count your blessings.
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Bob (a different one)
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 9:48am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: Coming of Age

"Were he and Quinn corrupted before or after this point?"


That's a very interesting question, Buckbart. I don't think Quinn was infected at this point because, as shown in Conspiracy, he did not recall his conversation with Picard from this episode.


But Remmick is a possibility. What if his professed desire to join the Enterprise was just laying the groundwork for infecting Picard? We know he was a target. Maybe Remmick/Space Critter were already setting up a plan B.

Probably not true, but fun to speculate about.
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Jeffrey Jakucyk
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 9:36am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

Well, Batai almost died sitting in his garage with the car running, and again when slammed big-time by a drunk driver. Almost. I think Greg landed on the "Could Be" square on his Jump-to-Conclusions Mat.
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Jeffrey Jakucyk
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 9:26am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: Coming of Age

I think Remmick and Quinn were compromised after this, by the very organisms they were working to expose. We see later in Conspiracy that those aliens are very good at identifying potential threats, and either assimilating or disappearing them. Remmick and Quinn were prime targets. While they were never specific about what they were looking for, the whole bridge crew knew they were looking for something, and there's no way that knowledge wouldn't make it up the chain. Ironic that Remmick gets the "queen" alien or whatever you want to call it in the end.

I also think Remmick's portrayal in this episode is about 50/50 genuine and putting on an act. He has no problem being so brusque, but at the same time it's just a means to an end. He's investigating something very serious, and not only is there no room for pussyfooting around, his antagonism could also be a tactic to trip up potential conspirators. The admission that he'd like to join the crew would seem to be his more genuine self, it's just unfortunate that he had to burn so many bridges in the investigation, and also the head exploding thing.
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Elliott
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 9:02am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: By Inferno's Light

@Jason R

On Betazed, I am called The Assassin of Joy, Keeper of the Holy Rings of Piss Taking, Heir Apparent to the Desecrated Cows of Fandom
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Rahul
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 8:53am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

@Greg, how do you get that Picard's friend is named "Patay"? It's "Batai".

Seems like you're stretching...
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Jason
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 8:47am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S2: Rivals

If the station's equipment can replicate devices that change the laws of probability, you'd think getting blankets to Bajor wouldn't require so much charity.
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SouthofNorth
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 8:36am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S7: Firstborn

Any Alexander episode that does not end with Alexander lying dead in a pool of his own blood and vomit is, by definition, a poor episode.
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SouthofNorth
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 8:29am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S7: Genesis

One thing about this episode is that we finally got a chance to see Worf's pajamas. Not exactly the pajamas of a warrior; they look like something you would find in the discount aisle at Target.
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Jason R.
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 7:07am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: By Inferno's Light

@Elliott I gotta hand it to you, your reviews are like guided missiles. Did a close friend of yours get maimed from a falling DS9 box set? Did Avery Broojs buy the last chocolate bobca at the bakery leaving you with nothing but cinnamon?

You really do take the piss out of DS9 (as you put it) even for episodes that most fans consider high points for the series.

But I will say that even as a fan I always hated the contrivance of them just beaming to the conveniently unmolested runabout and just sailing away from the heart of Dominion space - you're bang on that this is Saturday Morning cartoon stuff. It has always stuck in my craw and it's the worst thing in this episode. Garak's convenient claustrophobia never bothered me until you pointed out how lame and contrived it is. Now it bugs me. Thanks for that Mr. Assassin of Joy.

I also like that you hone in on the really good stuff, mostly revolving around Dukat and Cardassia- because let's face it, that's what this episode is really about and what is well done here.
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Jason R.
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 4:44am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Inner Light

@Greg it begs the question: what's his name in the Tagalog language track? Maybe Morte? Haha.

By the way, amazing catch on both items. After all these years I am amazed no one else on this board mentioned either one.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 1:19am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Shadows and Symbols

@ Robbie

Unless Ezri is talking to Garak or with Worf behind enemy lines, you can skip every scene she's in and not miss anything relevant.

She's my least favorite character in ALL of old school Trek, a total waste of precious screen time.
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Dave in MN
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 1:12am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

^

Why can't CBS just make a normal Trek series?! It's like they want people to be hooked on a brand name instead of a franchise. It's so weird to me.

They don't know what they're doing.

However, looking at the bright side of things, I am glad Kate Mulgrew has a new revenue stream.
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