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Kyle
Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 2:47am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Silicon Avatar

I was so glad when the entity died, I smiled as I saw Picard's face after the entity exploded, I was like "fuck you picard, fuck you and your bullshit"

Justice has been served.
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Sam Mickle
Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 1:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Host

Everyone is thinking way too hard about this episode. It was about the most simple issue that everyone seems to overlook in this episode. Penis size. Don't believe me? ok think about this. Odan must have had THE BIG ONE. So he dies right and the host swap out happens. Then oh look Riker is the new host. Well guess what? Bev is his doctor so guess what she knows? That's right his peepee size. And then at the end of the episode that lady doesn't have one at all. Bet that makes you think huh.
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Matthew Siegel
Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 1:23am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Muse

I weirdly liked this a lot, even though on its face it doesn't seem that interesting... the way it gradually became about the creative process as a whole was just engaging. Perhaps because I did not expect that to be the theme of the episode, but it's a unique and interesting theme that works here.
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Trish
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 8:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Too Short a Season

I think many people are thinking of the anti-aging drug as a tangential subplot, but it's the whole point: Much as a person might want to "go back" to fix and/or atone for the mistakes of youth, the attempt to do so is fatal to the person they have become.

Despite bad make-up and worse acting, this episode starts looking a lot better when you reach the time of life when you have to start facing that reality.
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Joe Langfitt
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 6:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Course: Oblivion

This type of conceptual plot reminds me very much of the Alternate worlds technique that has been used by more than one Science Fiction TV series. It amounts to a kind of cheap trick that points to a "road not taken" type of theme. Success depends on the quality of presentation and emotional buildup and this is enough for some people although to it kind of negates the more philosophical motive of what science fiction is about. This could have been a story about a ship striking an iceburg with all hands lost and it could be judged effective. I would cite one possible fruitful conjecture that was never even presented. If we live in a deterministic universe and if as was presented the copy crew and ship was completely like the original then would not their futures be identical. if you really play it out then there would be the dilemma of matter occupying the same space and time. This is the conveniance of the alternate universe where some sort of difference is assumed.
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Booming
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 3:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Peter G.
Yes, from a scientific standpoint that is a bad way to ask such a question and don't worry I reading this stuff for reasons unrelated to this discussion.

I posted it merely for the reason that it is from that period and contains a heartwarming message. :)
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Bobbington Mc Bob
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 3:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Heart of Stone

I think that a quick CTRL-F of the word "nog" confirms it, with 139 returns on this page: The Nog storyline was seriously impressive and in no way a second place to the A plot.

There is no way I would have predicted any emotional weight to any Nog scene, and yet his "I don't want to end up like my father" actually really got me. It was handled equally well by Sisko, who of course, was aiming for such a cathartic release all along. It was awesome to see a lightweight side character suddenly become something much deeper, and to be able to relate deeply to someone from a race whose previous gyrating, one-dimensional representations on the show have left me wanting to hit the "skip forward" button in netflix.

Though I may get shot in the head with a phaser for saying so, lately I have found myself feeling a blasphemous thought: **DS9 might actually be even better than TNG**.
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Fakery
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 2:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

I wish there would be some mechanism here for people to fork off into heir own private nattering back and forth off topic ramblings of brain-vomit and not clutter up these comment sections with irrelevance.
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Peter G.
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 2:03pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Booming,

I appreciate the effort to find data, but the problem with questionnaires like that is they are deeply flawed. I don't think there's very much to go on based on those, although than that perhaps people don't like to think that they've made decisions for material reasons. Whether in fact they really did or didn't is not data that can be drawn from such studies. Incidentally I wasn't even making an argument about whether material considerations are the final basis of any decision. All I said above was that it seems to be relevant to people upfront (i.e., before love has any chance to develop).
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Booming
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 1:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@Peter G.
I'm digging through giant amounts of data and just came across an interesting little data piece from a German family review made in 1968. People were asked: What were the most important reasons for choosing their partner:
Men:
Love 39%
Character 30%
material reasons 5%
same interests, healthiness, proficiency, home behavior (don't ask me how they came up with that category) 29 %
had no choice 3%

women:
Love 41%
Character 33%
material reasons 9%
same interests, healthiness, proficiency, home behavior 14%
had no choice 3%

So for more than two thirds in both genders love and character even in the 60s were the most important reasons. Multiple answers were possible. :)

(You could of course argue that social desirability has influenced the results)
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Peter G.
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 12:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Booming,

"Did you meant to say falling for a guy for reasons other than his personality?"

I meant to stay that we shouldn't impugn a woman for falling for a guy for superficial reasons, or call it sexist to suggest she would. That being said, yeah, there's more than just superficial quality to Apollo here. I did mean to say portfolio, because if you ask modern women what type of man they're looking for, or peruse dating profiles, few today would admit to just 'looking fora hot guy', whereas it's quite common to say he should have a good job. Asking what a prospective date does for a living is a very standard initial inquiry, which I've sort of condensed into "portfolio".

@ Chrome,

I do sort of agree that the rapidity and manner shown is a bit goofy, but I think it's to suddenly get out in the open without wasting time what's on the table for Apollo vs Scotty. But I laughed out loud at the Bluto line. I do agree that it's sad to think that Scotty would lose out because the other is cut like a god, but on the other hand I think we *are* supposed to feel bad for Scotty. It is a simple fact that no matter how dignified, educated, or caring you are you might lose out to someone for very superficial reasons. In the performance arts this is even more true, where losing a part may very often have happened for very plastic considerations. That said, I think we're supposed to feel bad for Apollo as well, because the fact of the matter is that in the future there seems less room for simply looking good to count for much, and so Apollo, for all his immediate charm, can't win out in the end in wooing Palamas. He's the guy she goes out with first but not the guy she takes home to meet her family. So in this way I think we're supposed to feel bad for both men, when in different ways each can't compete with the other. And she is necessarily drawn to both, but for very different reasons.

I think this particular issue was actually quite prescient on the part of the show, because it's far more common now than it was in the early 60's to be able to recognize that the hunk has his way with the women initially but that they grow tired of it and move on to someone stable with a good career when they get a bit older. Especially so with the growing trend of marrying and starting families much later in life, which leaves one's 20's for 'dating' and often involves a certain type of standard for dating that is quite different from the one used for settling down. Scotty is the settling down kind of guy, who likely has to eat mud while the Apollos out there can win a girl without even doing anything, but eventually finds someone who's done with all that and wants a family. Apollo, on the other hand, has his due time to be admired for his particular gifts, but finally realizes that this adulation came with a deadline and now he's not what's in demand. The old vs new concept in this episode does still work on a society-level, where "we don't need gods like you anymore", but frankly the way it actually plays out it feels more like old vs new in terms of maturing within one's own lifetime and realizing there are better things than chasing what's only beautiful on the outside.
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Jason R.
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 12:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

"Sorry, just saw your post. You have repeatedly shown the need to insult me. Could you stop that, please."

I do tend to be a bit of a bulldog in these debates and sometimes my style is acerbic.

But I never insulted you on this thread. Not once.
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Booming
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 12:07pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Jason R.
Sorry, just saw your post. You have repeatedly shown the need to insult me. Could you stop that, please.
I'm watching Downton Abbey, a horribly boring show but you can learn a lot about insulting people without using actual insults. For example, I think it is marvelous that your job isn't so demanding and leaves you ample time to spent with your offspring.
Here, you brutish Americans certainly can learn a lot. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvqgboWKV9E
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Chrome
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 11:44am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

The thing is, I don't have a beef with Palamas falling for him per se (hey, Andonais is an attractive guy!) it's just that the whole scene with him magically undressing her proceeding by her falling for him in minutes is extremely goofy. That may be more of a production issue than an attitude issue, though. I think we're supposed to take this episode semi-seriously but the romance is something I've seen handled better by Popeye after he knocks out Bluto.

And we could easily cut the argument both ways: is it really fair that men are considered godlike if they have chiseled mussels and speak with a booming voice? that makes me feel bad for Scotty a little. I think the episode plays both ancient gender stereotypes fairly straight.
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Booming
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 11:39am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Peter G.
Nothing wrong with falling in love head over heals with a hot guy. Does anybody really question that outside of very radical circles? I can see Chrome's point, though does Palamar fall in love every time she sees a hunky guy in a golden tablecloth?
I think the worrying part is that she falls in love immediately after being kidnapped and continues to defend him after being beaten up by him.

One could very well make the argument that it is far more sexist to portray women as only interested in the status (portfolio, doctorate) of a man. That would be just another way of being shallow. And being a god certainly trumps being a doctor. So no problem with the portfolio here. Did you meant to say falling for a guy for reasons other than his personality?

In TNG at least we had several a working mothers, including the chief medical officer.
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Ian
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 11:20am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part II

Isaac becomes Data in "Identity, Part II". He's now an artificial life form which cut off from others of his kind. He will now need to find his own path among biological life forms. I wonder if Isaac will make changes to his appearance and behavior as a logical means to coping with his situation.

As for the Krill...I wish this was a three-part episode because I thought they were awfully quick to decide to help Earth. How did they even know that ship or probe that attacked them was even Kaylon? And after the battle when the Kaylon retreated the Krill were in an awfully good position to attack the remaining Union forces and destroy them. They seriously weren't tempted to do that?
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Ian
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 11:06am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part I

I just started watching season 2 and ""Identity, Part I" is probably the best episode of the series so far. At the same it illustrates the challenge of the "The Orville". It wants to be both a drama and a comedy (or maybe just amusing. Thank goodness there's no laugh track here). But "Identity, Part I" is probably at least 90% drama and it does it very well. I was thinking of the Best of Both Worlds and I'm really curious to see if the The Orville is going to make the big improvement in story-telling and character the way STTNG did in seasons 3 and 4.

Couple of things: I also expected Mercer was going to get his ship and crew out of there after discovery of the skeletons. As for the head cannons, I'm thinking maybe that was done because having weapons come from Kaylon hands or arms would have seemed too much like the Cylon Centurions from Battlestar Galactica.
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Peter G.
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 11:03am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Chrome,

I'll even go to bat against this, although perhaps the odds are against me:

"To be sure, there are far more sexist scenes in this episode including Palamas falling in love with flexing pecs and a smile in seconds."

I think there's a lot of misconception about what "women" want, put forward by very vocal bloggers and interest groups, whereas down here on Earth it seems entirely natural to be swept up immediately in a certain circumstance. In order to call that sexist one would have to say to those women point-blank they they are *wrong* to do so, which in turn makes it an anti-feminist argument. I've known plently of liberal-leaning women with strong values about women's rights or sexism, and yet will have no compunction to admit that if a certain dreamboat [insert popular Hollywood star here] they would go ga-ga. And I think these remarks are not incompatiable with each other, and yet is seems to be the case that when a woman is portrayed as falling for a man for reasons other than his portfolio or his doctorate, it's 'sexist TV'. I don't really buy that, as I think it's entirely reasonable to show a woman, especially one who we've been told already may value 'being a woman' more than 'being an officer', as losing it over a literal god.

I may be fighting upfill on this one, but I'm doing my best to show that it's not the same thing to show a realistic depiction of a woman who loves men falling for a man superficially, compared to arguing that it shows that women are sex objects or only exist to couple up, or anything like that. And I don't even think it's fair to call it weakness on her part to fall for Adonis; it's literally the point of feminism to show that women should be able to make their own choices, whether those are work-oriented, family, or of the more amusing variety.
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Chrome
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 8:28am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

I really enjoyed William B’s write up for this one; I’m not sure I could say much more. That scene with Kirk advocating the bonds of humanity was pure Trek gold.

As for the “she’s all woman” line, it seems to me that Kirk meant that she didn’t have the (for the 60s) masculine notion of being a full-time career worker and wanted a family. This can certainly be seen as sexist by modern standards where, for many, what it means to be a woman has greatly changed. Nevertheless, I don’t think the line was intended to be sexist. The intent of the scene seems to be that Lt. Palamas was a hard worker but wanted more out of life than her Starfleet career. This sets up the central dilemma of the piece where Palamas gets the opportunity to give up her Starfleet life to be the ultimate object of femininity as an “Aphrodite” - but of course *the episode itself* sees this concept as antiquated.

To be sure, there are far more sexist scenes in this episode including Palamas falling in love with flexing pecs and a smile in seconds. However, there’s a great scene later where she tells Apollo off with “I’m a scientist; did you really think I had interest in you outside of being my specimen?” which, in addition to Kirk’s speech at the end, really saves the episode.
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Jason R.
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 6:35am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

"To me this sounds like women, because they already leave for a while because of the pregnancy, should continue to stay at home instead of the father. If I, for some reason, misunderstood you then i sincerely apologize"

But that is not what you said and not what I objected to. You said:

""He said that there "is an obvious synergy" when the person who gets pregnant stays at home while the other person (the man) continues to work. Does this not lead to fathers *barely participating in the upbringing?*"

I placed an asterix around "barely participating in the upbringing".

"Barely" is defined as "only just, almost not".

This is the part I take issue with. I am a full time worker with my wife staying at home and I don't "barely" participate in my daughter's upbringing. Sociologist or not, that's a risible thing to say. It's ignorant.
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Kev
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 4:25am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S4: Hard Time

I am with Peter G on this one. Also I think you have to take in to account that when Miles says he was taught as a child humanity is evolved that was early in his learning and possibly more retained in a crisis. Probably the best way I can illustrate that is you learn addition subtraction etc as a child, calculus much later and I know for me a lot of the calculus stuff is now gone but the simple lessons I learnt as a child will (hopefully) never be. Perhaps when writing dialog for a character in a crisis it is appropriate to pare down the ideas to the simplest form without meaning to make a comment on the values of the federation as a whole.

Also as to the Ee'Char question - the sentence was minimum 15 years and the punishment was meant to be specific to Miles. Do you really think it coincidence he was let out a week or 2 after murdering his cellmate? Apparently they normally get someone to the point of despair (whatever that is to the individual) in 15 years, took them 20 with Miles.
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Booming
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 1:48am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Peter G.
Thanks for being the voice of reason here. My patience was running out.

"And I especially didn't even bring up the topic of firing anyone. We were talking about what might govern choices a woman would make."
That's why I asked you to clarify. About the second sentence I want to say one thing and I don't mean that as an insult but when I present sociological ideas here then they are simplified versions of very complex ideas/theories. Discussing them with people who aren't sociologists can be interesting but I always reach a point where the discussion becomes tedious. Normally when I realize that the other side lacks a deeper understanding of facts and theories but still clings to these relatively uninformed assumptions.
This problem is aggravated by the fact that I mostly discuss these issues with other professionals which leads to me leaving out stuff because I fail to realize that lots of it isn't common knowledge outside of my profession.

You certainly have very specialized knowledge yourself and I hope you can sympathize.
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Paul C
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 5:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: The Darkness and the Light

Sorry I forgot -

Sisko kicking Worf’s arse. ‘You have your orders, dismissed!’
That was good. Don’t see that in ST much.
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Paul C
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 5:40pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: The Darkness and the Light

Not clear to me why they bothered with the disembodied voice part for the messages. Didn’t do anything for the story.

Pretty grim transporter death... and no one even tried to stop Kira looking at her. Of course she’d have said no, but surely someone would say, ‘are you sure you want to see her..?’
Just before the accident we had some banter that was very out of place. Worf and Dax were treating this as a routine transport, but they were intercepting someone who could possibly be murdered. Very blasé.

Pregnant woman gets into multiple fights and risks her baby to seek revenge. That’s just plain stupid behaviour.
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Rahul
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 4:09pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind

One thing I marvel at is how much Jake (Cirroc Lofton) grew (physically) from 1993 (age 14) to 1999. In Season 1, he was a skinny kid much shorter (obviously) than Ben Sisko. At the end of the show, he's taller (over 6 ft.) and a basically a fully developed man. Must have grown an inch per season!
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