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Lee
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 5:55pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Eye of the Needle

I've always loved this episode - apart from the INSANE ending. Why does no one else have a problem with the absurdity of the ending?

As soon as the Romulan captain leaves Voyager, Tuvok reports that this man died before Voyager was launched, so they have no way to know if their messages ever got home. WHAT!?

Here are the three things which make no sense to me...

1. After hearing that the Romulan died before Voyager was launched, everyone just accepts that they have no way to know if their messages got home. WHY LEAVE IT TO CHANCE? Why not just contact the Romulan and urge him to leave a will or give a copy to a trusted friend? Yes, the wormhole was due to collapse - but NOT YET. The man had ONLY JUST BEAMED OFF THE SHIP, without any sense of urgency, so clearly they can still make contact with him.

2. So let's get this straight: Tuvok hands over the data chip containing all the crew's messages to this Romulan man, knowing fully well that the man will die before he can deliver the messages? Knowing this, WHY ON EARTH didn't Tuvok urge the man to make sure he leaves a will, or give a copy to a trusted friend?

3. Besides all this - why tell the Romulan captain to wait 20 years before delivering the message? Get him to send it NOW! He could have transmitted it to Starfleet while they were watching him, then the Voyager crew would know for a FACT that Starfleet had received it. As for not wanting the messages to be seen ahead of time, just encrypt the chip's contents and leave a header note saying: "This message is from the future. The contents of this chip have been encrypted to prevent timeline corruption. In 2371, a federation ship will go missing. Rest assured that its crew are safe and well. This chip contains personal messages from them to the crew's families. The coordinates of the ship's last known location are the password for this file."
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Peter G.
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 5:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S1: The Nagus

This isn't a Nog episode per se, but I'll give my tribute to Nog with this one, which contains my favorite Nog scene, and maybe one of the subtly sadder ones, which is the scene when he claims that Vulcans stole his homework, possibly because "they have no ethics". It's kind of sad to me because the class clown thing is a sort of cover for the fact that he's struggling and that a Ferengi in a human school is out of his element. It's great that even before they started developing Nog more Eisenberg manged to make a big impression in a scene like this which could have just played for laughs.
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Rahul
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 2:55pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: In the Cards

Very sad to hear of Aron Eisenberg's passing today. Always is the case when Trek loses one of its family members.
Noticed others posting about their favorite Nog episodes. For me, it's "In the Cards" - DS9's best comedy. (Although Jake plays a bigger role).
Nog and Jake really developed something special over the seasons -- from little brats to buddies to being at each other's throats and to mature young adults. Here, their partnership is at its best and most entertaining.

RIP Aron Eisenberg
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Luke
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 2:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

While I think "Treachery, Faith and the Great River" is a slightly better episode overall, this is definitely my favorite Aron Eisenberg performance as well.

RIP Mr. Eisenberg. You were one of the best characters on the best Star Trek series. You navigated the waters of the Great Material Continuum, avoiding the shoals of bankruptcy and seeking the strong winds of prosperity, and you did it well. Enjoy your new life in the Divine Treasury, because we all know the Celestial Auctioneers accepted your bribe, good sir.

Godspeed!
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William B
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 2:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

This is my favourite Aron Eisenberg performance, though I agree with other comments that he's great in AR558 and Treachery, Faith and the Great River too. I'd add Heart of Stone, In the Cards and The Magnificent Ferengi as some dramatic and comic highlights. He did a lot with what began as a somewhat thankless role, which seemed to be primarily designed to develop Quark and Jake initially, and was a standout recurring player in a show with a huge number of them. RIP.
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Chrome
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 2:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Treachery, Faith, and the Great River

People have been giving shout-outs to great Nog episodes due to the actor’s untimely passing. Well, here’s a favorite of mine.

Although the great material continuum strikes me as a bit of a retcon, it’s a good retcon, and really shows off what a capable Ferengi can do for Starfleet.
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Ian
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 1:17pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558

A standout episode for Aron Eisenberg who sadly has passed away. Rest in Peace.
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Greg M
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 12:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

Aron Eisenberg passed away last night and I watched this episode again in Tribute. Still one of the best episodes of the series, and probably the best holodeck episode of the series.

RIP Aron.
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Joe Menta
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 7:24am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Darmok

Great episode, subtle and lyrical. But two things bothered me on my re-watch last night: Picard took a little too much time on the planet to figure out what the alien commander was trying to accomplish, and Riker displayed too much simplicity and brutality in his response to the episode’s events. Sure, he’d absolutely be preoccupied with rescuing the captain, but couldn’t he have at least semi-guessed that something important might be going on down on the planet that he maybe shouldn’t interfere with? That maybe a simpleminded focus on the captain’s safety shouldn’t always be his prime focus? The alien captain might have survived without Riker’s failed attempt to beam the captain out. I’m surprised that Captain Picard didn’t criticize him later about that. Still, a top-notch episode.
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Mark Antony
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 5:14am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Workforce

Sorry but the above comment was meant for the previous episode The Void!
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Mark Antony
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 5:11am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Workforce

Did anyone else think it was a shame that Seven went to all that trouble of preparing her shipmates a gourmet meal only for it to all end up on the floor?

Those damn spacial anomalies are a real nuisance aren’t they?
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Ruth
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 1:10am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S2: A Night in Sickbay

It’s not the dog stuff that’s the problem surely? Porthos is cute and we’ve been going into Archer having Janeway’s problem, that it’s hard and often taken as inappropriate for him to be friends with the crew, but that leaves him friendless a long way from home. So Porthos despite also being as Phlox put it “subservient” is closer to an equal he can be friends with, just because that doesn’t bother dogs and make them act weird - or no weirder than we expect dogs too. His relationship with Trip is pretty much the same, genuine real affection, but also Trip is his subordinate in a way that matters unlike with Porthos.

And being in a bad mood after spending a week doing what feels like grovelling and being turned away for what feels like no reason, and then your dog is dying, is fine. And he did apologise to everyone at the end and not get openly frustrated at the aliens so it’s not really a character assassination, just an example of a really really bad day. (He’s probably still shook up from thinking they’d had their first fatality last week, too.)

The problems are the invented sexual tension with T’Pol (the episode also implies through the focus on the decontamination scene that T’Pol has sexual tension with Hoshi, which she actually does to a limited degree, and Archer with Porthos which is... ugh!!) and Archer not even hesitating to kill one animal to save another apart from wondering if it will harm Porthos.

It’s so insulting to Jolene Blalock that they did this to T’Pol. They weren’t quite so bad to Jeri Ryan as Seven, and they still could have treated her a lot better. The stuff with Trip is fine and feels natural (and part of that comes from how they are both together with Archer a lot and neither is into him!), Malcolm fancying her is okay because he’s kind of the horny one of Enterprise (apart from maybe Phlox!) and they didn’t imply that he was very into her or that it was at all requited, but this is awful and spits on every episode so far. She feels the same? This woman went to sickbay because she had a tame sex dream about a jazz club, come on!

And though I’m not sure if it’s ever spelt out, I think the crew at this point believe she’s only up for it once every 7 years - so if that’s meant to be why they apparently all fixate on her, as a safe option in terms of effecting your relationships with your coworkers on a 5 year mission, they should go into that. (Also, this makes the line they put in about the crew being only nearly a third female even more stupid as well as offensive. You’d think it would then be a third gay men right? If they’re out there for 5 years and they recognise they’ll want to have sex with each other? But there’s no gay people and a shortage of women in the future, obviously! They briefly touch on the superiority of female astronauts in a scene that’s all leading up to topless Hoshi, but Starfleet are apparently too stupid to even hedge their bets and make the crew 50:50.) But no, it’s because the real actress has to wear a stupid costume because the show writers think it’s sexy, and they’re constantly thinking about having sex with her so obviously all the characters are.
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Chappity
Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 11:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: When the Bough Breaks

The Aldeans used a repulsor beam to repel and catapult the Enterprise three days away from the planet. What really mystifies me is how the force required to generate so much repulsion would not simply pulverize the vessel instantly.
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LisaM
Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 10:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: The Apple

These people just lost their god, yet laugh at the end as if strangers killing your god is no big deal.
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ovadohr
Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 9:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: And the Children Shall Lead

Second for second, this episode had the least entertainment value of any TOS episode. Its dullness is matched only by its sheer dopeyness and vice versa. I actually hope the reason Melvin Belii was cast because someone owed him a favor. If he was hired on the basis of his “acting ability,” you just have to wonder.

When the show is not being boring, awkward, stilted, and repetitive (and when it is, come to think about it), it’s being offensively stupid. As in McCoy’s clueless grin at the end.

Belli has feathers in his hair and feathers in his head
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Sleeper Agent
Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 9:10pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Latent Image

I wholly enjoyed the first third of it. It had an aura of thriller to it, which later turns to a character drama with some intriguing philosophical dialogues. It's all very good, but I can't help wishing that the episode would've been of a more sinister kind.

3 Stars
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Stork1
Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 11:20am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Friday's Child

I understand many of the critical comments made here, but I enjoyed this episode very much. There are some segments which are truly classic, especially involving Bones and Scotty. 'A few involving Spock, too.
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SouthofReality
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 10:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Heart of Glory

Yar should be working on her resume after Picard fires her for the inept security job. I suspect the Klingon captain had heard through the grapevine all pathetic star fleet security is and was thinking: "2 Klingon warriors against a whole star fleet vessel? oy! I best send over some help because those guys are worthless."
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Peter G.
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 3:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The First Duty

Watching this one now. A couple of details stood out to me more than they had before.

1) When Picard confronts Wesley, it seems like he's giving Wesley the chance to partially redeem himself by coming clean, but it's more than just urging him forward. I believe Picard was definitely going forward if Wesley didn't, so it was just going to be a question of which of them did it. I sort of think that Picard was condemning him either way, and that it would just be even worse if Wesley kept lying. Rather than 'Picard helping Wesley do the right thing', it felt a bit more like "this is your last chance before I completely lose all respect for you."

2) When Nick is talking to Wesley alone after this conversation with Picard, and Wesley says he can't live with the lie, Locarno tells him "who the hell are you?" Many in this thread have taken Locarno's general position to be that of a leader-figure placing the team first, but I have to be honest, I'm getting more of a sense now that it was all about him and that 'the team' was just a fig leaf for his personal glory. Picard's theory from earlier in the episode, that Locarno planned the whole thing to graduate in a personal blaze of glory, should probably be taken as a given, which means it was always about Nick looking amazing, and not about the others on the team. The "who the hell are you" is a total Hitler Youth kind of thing, where the implication is "you are nobody" and that an individual's conscience is irrelevant. I don't think he was being honest when he told Wesley he'd totally be willing to screw himself over the help the team; it was just a convenient thing for him to say. Wesley's comment at the end, that Locarno did exactly as he said he would protecting the team, rings hollow to me because by that point he was dead to rights and the only question was going to be whether everyone saw him for being a scumbag or for salvaging what remained of his public dignity. If I'm right, that he was basically a narcissistic opportunist, his last act wouldn't contradict that and would still fit the mold.
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Fakery
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 12:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

The actor is good, and so is Mulgrew, who really carries the dramatic weight of the episode (unfortunately, it tells us little about either Tuvok or Neelix). Garrett Wang seems to be having one of his hangover days.
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Peter G.
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 11:05am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

@ Fakery,

Yeah, I'd pretty much agree with you, except for the sole fact that I really like what the actor portraying Tuvix did with the role. But other than that it's mostly a cop-out of a good premise. Because IMO he was so compelling it lends gravity to a story not treated all that seriously by the writers.
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Fakery
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 9:50am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Riddles

On the evidence of here, they never explain what they're talking about.
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Fakery
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 9:26am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

Am I alone in thinking this a pretty mediocre episode? "Good for Voyager," I suppose. It has the ingredients for a classic like "Duet" or "Measure of a Man" but is half-baked, so bogged down with technobabble and tedious explanations that it has almost no time to let the meat of it, its moral debate, unfold properly. In fact, there's scarcely any debate at all, in the episode -- fans have done with the work instead. So you can say, "Good that it's inspired discussion" -- well, better than nothing, but so much of this discussion owes precious little to the episode itself (and in fact frankly often reads like it's being written by people with very faint recollections of the episode itself). It's like someone took the structure of a patented TREK MORAL ISSUE EPISODE but knew the notes but not the music.

I hate to say it, but Enterprise did it better with "Similitude."
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RandomThoughts
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 5:42am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Dark Frontier

Hello Everyone!

I always like reading Elliott, even if I don't agree with what they have to say every time.

Regards... RT
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Todayshorse
Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 1:21am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Muse

Hmm

Torres manages to land on a planet full of luvvies.

Luvvuies who manage to speak in a slightly damok style and one manages to annoy the almost Seven rivaling Torres for hotness in her figure hugging grey under uniform. And annoy her he does with just about every word he says...'Vulcan!' Grrrrrrrr
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