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Dave in MN
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 4:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

And as far as Sisko goes, he's worked with and lived with these people for six years. Perhaps the time could have been better utilized by having Sisko recognize that his coworkers were his friends ...

.... and also, Sisko has a son.l and Jake is barely seem in the last season. Their relationship was basically an afterthought and that's unfortunate.
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Dave in MN
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 4:15pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

This is my third time watching the series through.... I watched it when it aired and then about 8 years ago I watched out again (skipping the bad episodes like "Profit and Lace").

I'm truly stunned how much screentime Ezri got and how unessential to the plot most of it actually is. She's a superfluous character at a time when the show should have been wrapping up plot lines.

(*coughBajorInTheFederationcough*)
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James G
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 4:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

The third episode in a row that I hadn't seen before. I must have a think about what I was distracted by in the early '90s when these were shown on the BBC. Anyway - brilliant. Impossible to believe that the wise, thoughtful and determined Picard in this story is the same Picard I saw 24 hours earlier, swinging through a castle window in a Robin Hood costume to rescue Maid Marian.

Really a splendid moral message about prejudice, suspicion, paranoia, justice and ethics. Patrick Stewart is really in his element here.

Surprised to see Jean Simmons in this; her performance reminds me a bit of Judi Dench. Not completely natural early on but by the time she's losing it at the climax she's acting out of her skin. Bravo.

Loved it.
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Cody B
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 3:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S2: First Flight

Fantastic episode. Clearly not enough aliens, explosions, and pretty phaser beam blasts for some but what are you going to do. Some people can’t appreciate great writing when it’s right in front of them
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Booming
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 3:45pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

Yeah Ezri... they should have used an existing character for a friendship or maybe go all in and let Sisko suffer a real and significant loss. Maybe that would have been too rough.

The actor for Ezri isn't bad but it feels like a character from another show just walked onto the set. Another problem is her arc. She really doesn't have one. At the start of the season she is confused and at the end she is a little less confused.
For most characters on the show it is about accepting who you really are, often done over several seasons. The only rock that never moves is O'Brien which works for him because he is the average joe. You could throw him in tough situation and we had an easy time emphasizing.

Ezri on the other hand is just there.
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Cody B
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 2:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

@Dave in MN

If they killed of the symbiote we would have gotten an entire “mourning” episode and then multi episode arcs of Sisko and Worf being sad and trying to deal with it. Also I think you are being too harsh. I didn’t find Ezri so bad and if you fast forwarded all her scenes how are you so sure you don’t like anything she’s part of?
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Chapters
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 2:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Justice

This was the very first episode of star trek (any star trek) i watched, i was about 8 or 9 and remember asking my dad, why do they want to kill him for falling over the flowers? And him explaining the plot to me.
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Peter G.
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 2:14pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

@ Dave in MN,

"They should've killed off the symbiote and not bothered introducing a whole new main cast character this late in the game. What a waste."

Problem is if you do that Benjamin is lacking a significant relationship on the show other than Kasidy. Dax is his main 'friend' in the cast, and without her his scenes are relegated to professional briefings or else family scenes, which is a bit limiting.
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EventualZen
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 2:13pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Unforgettable

@Leif
>Do people agree with that at least that the episode wasn't derivative?

I think this episode shares similarities with TNG 4x14 "Clues". I only gave this episode a 3/10 but don't have notes explaining why.
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Dave in MN
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 2:05pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

There's WAY too much Ezri in Season 7. I like the actress, don't get me wrong, but boy did they squander time by focusing on her character so much.

I fast forward through her scenes ... so far upon rewatch, I don't seem to have missed much plotwise.

They should've killed off the symbiote and not bothered introducing a whole new main cast character this late in the game. What a waste.
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Cody B
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 1:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S2: Regeneration

I liked this one a lot but found some of it confusing. So were they early proto borg or some sort of Borg offshoot species? What was up with their ship it wasn’t square or circular? Other than that this was a great episode that ties in with First Contact (the movie). Voyager should have done a similar thing here with the Borg as Enterprise has. One or two GOOD episodes of Borg and that’s it. Don’t milk it for ratings until Borgs aren’t scary.
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Peter G.
Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:02am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

@ Jakob,

"There is a weird sort of Christian morality underpinning this episode, this idea that it’s good and right to be a sacrificial lamb, to put yourself “on the cross” so to speak and spill your blood to save others, but that’s kind of ridiculous."

While I wouldn't want to comment on why you do or don't like Christian-type morality, you really don't see how it would be a good thing to go to the defense of people being attacked by Romulans and die trying to save them? Having served, you would really argue that there is literally no point in participating in a rescue or defense action even if there is little chance of success? You don't see the value - both for morale and for honor - in finding it unacceptable to let defenseless people be gunned down, Klingon or otherwise? Because that's what this is about: how when the Klingons see Enterprise-C die fighting for them it cements the Khitomer Accords into a real alliance, because they realize it's not just a detente but that they're dealing with people with values.
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Dingus
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 10:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Facets

What a huge piece of shit. I once read that you can tell how good a voice actor is by hearing them do an impression of someone else while in character. Well, the writers actually thought it was a good idea to take these very limited actors and illustrate for everyone exactly how bad they are, with the exception of Auberjonois. Kira and Bashir were just laughably terrible! Seriously, watch that Bashir scene again.

I just can't help but to compare this series to Babylon 5. At this point late in the 3rd season that show was firing on all cylinders, with almost every episode having critical importance to the plot, and some great great performances. It was awesome. What's going on with Bajore, the Cardassians, the Dominion? What has there been, like, 4 or 5 Dominion episodes since they've been introduced? There were definitely worse episodes before this one but this has been my least favorite because I'm sick of this stilted crap.
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Picard_Is_Wesleys_Father
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 10:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Damage

Though a fine episode, it is easy in retrospect to see it as a portend for the franchise’s steep decline into murky, aggressive, any-means-necessary dreck now synonymous with Discovery and Picard. The episode’s message ages particularly poorly as we look back at the actual War on Terror over a decade on. T’Pol’s crack addiction and Pirate Archer are now emblematic of the franchise that lost its way. Picard would convene the officers in his ready-room to weigh any ethical dilemma. Archer unilaterally and continually makes the unethical call. And the franchise still lives with the consequences.
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Jakob
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

There is a weird sort of Christian morality underpinning this episode, this idea that it’s good and right to be a sacrificial lamb, to put yourself “on the cross” so to speak and spill your blood to save others, but that’s kind of ridiculous.

Yes, war is unpleasant (though not always bad, and before you ask — I am a veteran) but any sane person would rather be alive in the midst of a terrible war, where they have some chance of surviving until their natural expiration, if the alternative is to avoid the war by means of their certain death.


You pose the question ‘would you go back in time and kill Hitler?’ and my answer is absolutely not. If there was no WWII, Hungary would not have been occupied by the Soviets, and then there would’ve been no uprising and invasion in 1956, which means that my grandfather would not have had to flee, which means that he would never come to the UK and thus I would not have ever existed. WWII certainly wasn’t worth it for all of the Germans subjected to mass rape by the Red Army or tortured to death by the Stasi or the Palestinians whose 70 year dispossession has been justIfied in the eyes of many by the Jewish Holocaust, but it was worth it to me because I owe my existence to it.

Also, since Star Trek assumes a many world’s interpretation to be true (I don’t, I’m with Bohr and Heisenberg on this question) then there is no right or wrong timeline, they’re all right and Whoopi Goldberg’s assertion that this one is wrong is nonsense.
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Eric Saavedra
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Afterimage

Worf really got on my nerves in this one, especially in the Dr Bashir scene. Seriously, why isn’t this guy ever charged with assault and removed from Starfleet. It’s not the first time he puts his hands on a fellow officer. Everyone always tries to appease Worf and and all the Klingons. In fact, I hate the Klingons. The only one I liked was Martok, and even he got my nerves occasionally.
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Dirk
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 6:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S4: Hippocratic Oath

I just felt sorry for the Chief the whole time.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 6:25pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Course: Oblivion

I don't see how any of these episodes could have happened both to Voyager and the copy.

The other Voyager didn't follow the same path for 99% of their journey (because we heard about a bunch of interesting different adventures that the dupe crew had that our crew didn't).

They didn't leave at the same time. They probably didn't even leave from the same place nor at the same speed. This isn't alternate universes, after all.
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EventualZen
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 6:07pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Course: Oblivion

Would anyone like to theorize which episodes between "Demon" and "Course: Oblivion" actually happened to the doomed/cloned Voyager crew?
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Cody B
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 4:55pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S2: Cogenitor

After a slump of “meh” episodes, here we get a good one. Can’t help but to think that at the end Archer is taking out anger he has towards himself on Tripp. He tells Tripp they got news that “Charles” killed herself yet there’s no reason to believe she wasn’t murdered. And THAT would be Archers fault not Tripps. Even if she did commit suicide it’s just as much Archers fault. He had the final say on her not being able to stay on Enterprise when she begged to.
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James G
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 4:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Qpid

I was surprised to find a Q episode that I hadn't seen before, but it's an awful one. The Star Trek franchise is littered with these excuses to perform period dramas. I'm not really a fan of them. The whole appeal for me is to have an escapist glimpse into the future, albeit an imaginary one.

But the premise of this Robin Hood drama is witless in the extreme, the crowning stupidity being Picard's plan to rescue Vash just by breaking in on his own with a sword and getting her. I didn't find the jokes, like Troi shooting Data with an arrow and Worf breaking the lute, particularly funny. The whole thing is literally a farce.

I've been to Nottingham many times and the castle a few times; I lived about an hour from there. Would have been nice to hear the local accent, but the lady who is ordered by "Marian" to take a message to the forest sounds like she's from London.

But my pet hate with all Q episodes is the way he's treated by Picard. Granted he's irritating but he also has a wealth of knowledge and power that could benefit humankind and the Federation immeasurably. In this one he literally arrives offering a favour, but he's just asked to leave immediately.

Anyway. I've seen most of the TNG episodes but this one is a new low for me.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 3:44pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

To throw in my two cents:

Maurice Hurley made multiple sexual passes at Gates McFadden in the first season, and when she didn't reciprocate, he had her booted off the show for a season (until he left his role as producer). He viewed the workplace as a dating pool.

My personal feeling is that M.H. wrote this episode with that personal situation (and potentially others) in mind. In fact, It wouldn't surprise me if he got a perverse kick out of Gates McFadden having to read and film a script that handwaves away his personal behavior and attacks female "frigidity".
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Booming
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 3:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

@ Gerontius
" I think neither of them did anything blameworthy, and that we were given to understand that, having got to know each other better, they both accept that to be the case."
That seems to be the message the authors intended to convey which, in my view, makes it even worse.

These are a few snippets from people who reviewed the episode. Taken from wikipedia
- "The primary issue here ... is that we should be sympathetic to Geordi's mistakes here, and I don't think we're given good reason to be"
- and that the chemistry between Brahms and LaForge is pretty good in its own right, even though it’s working from an untenable premise that nothing he did was wrong or particularly weird."
- Couldn't we have had a bit more celebration of her genius rather than a pity party for LaForge and his fantasies of the girl of his dreams?

Looking into the "career" of the guy who wrote this thing I'm not surprised about the content of this episode.

He has two other writing credits. For one I couldn't find anything, he wrote an episode for a show that on IMDB is described as such:"Short lived comedy about construction workers enjoying themselves."

The second one is a movie called Frozen Assets and the plot is about a guy who starts at a new job and finds out, it's at a sperm bank and because they lack sperm they start a contest. The man who gives them the biggest amount of sperm wins the prize. Roger Ebert wrote:" What puzzles me is this film's tone. It's essentially a children's film with a dirty mind. This is a movie to watch in appalled silence. To call it the year's worst would be a kindness."

A children's film with a dirty mind. Sounds about right.

@Eventual Zen
Yeah, she was 29 when they filmed it. In universe she is 31. The Enterprise was finished in 2363 (Leah was 27) and definitely in construction during 2362. So yeah Leah was the leading engineer in the Federation at the age of 22-23. :D That's pretty funny.
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EventualZen
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 2:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Does anyone else think Leah is a little young to have designed the Enterprise's engines? She only looks about 30 years old and the Enterprise had already been around for a few years before the episode "Booby Trap". I would have thought someone in their 60's would have designed the Galaxy Class engines. Is she supposed to be a genius like Wesley?
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Gerontius
Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 11:23am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Quite right, we differ in our views. I think neither of them did anything blameworthy, and that we were given to understand that, having got to know each other better, they both accept that to be the case. Booming disagrees. We can't let the protagonists adjudicate, since they are fictional, so we agree to differ.
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