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Re: VOY S7: Lineage

@Quincy

In the first part of your analysis, you complain that Lineage is bad because it's not sci-fi. You then go on to define two tropes of the sci-fi genre: "science" and "far reaching implications" of ideas.

The problem with your analysis, is that Lineage ticks both of those boxes. The genetic manipulation angle is definitely science. And the implications of that genetic manipulation and how far a mother could take it, is definitely a "far reaching implication" in my book.

I think what you are really complaining about, is not that it isn't sci-fi (which it definitely is) but that it's not action-adventure (a genre Trek has only ever nominally belonged to).

The rest of your comment is just incoherent rambling. Especially your half-formed rant about something to do with rape and sexual equality.

Re: VOY S2: Dreadnought

@Yanks,

Just FYI it's Maquis not Maguis. You've written the same on other posts too.

Re: VOY S2: The 37's

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I don't know where the 4 billion miles per second came from though. Star Trek usually mentions kilometers not miles.

Re: VOY S2: Deadlock

@Amanda You wouldn't immediately explode on exposure to the vacuum of space. If you're lucky you've got at least a few minutes before you run out of air or suffer injuries from swelling/burst blood vessels etc.

As for the decompression, I guess it wouldn't seem more or less explosive than in a jet liner at high altitude (which is dramatic but not instantly fatal).

Re: VOY S2: The 37's

@Jons: The flip-side of your observation is the Star Trek creation of the "padd" 15-20 years before the iPad.

Re: TNG S7: Homeward

You might be forgiven for coming away from this episode thinking: maybe Nikolai is right, maybe this was the right decision, in this case no cultural damage was done and adherence to the Prime Directive would have needlessly sacrificed these people.

But the more you think about, the more unforeseen consequences there will be for these people over the next hundreds or thousands of years.

For example, evolution by natural selection may not be discovered because all their hominid fossils would have been left behind on the old planet. What would that do for their culture? It could be absolutely devastating in the long run.

Re: TNG S3: The Survivors

I like that someone inserted the phrase 'Lagrange point' into the script. But it seems a waste when it came time to shoot, no one told Frakes how to pronounce it.

Re: TNG S1: The Last Outpost

Didn't Quark later mention "worthless gold"? Yet here the Ferengi describe gold as a "valuable metal".

Re: VOY S2: Dreadnought

"Jakob Tettertotter returning from Akron" is totally off topic. He's just doing his own reviews. It's very distracting.

Re: DS9 S5: The Ascent

Has the Federation abandoned habeas corpus by the 24th century? Or did Odo not reveal the charges against Quark because he was so sure he already knew what the situation was?

Re: VOY S2: The 37's

@Jeff Bedard

I couldn't agree more with all your points. Especially number 3. All of the Berman era Star Trek series suffered from this warped sense of the past. Anyone would think the crews in these shows were looking back at the 20th century as though the details and records were lost to antiquity. They refer to the events of the 20th century as though they occurred thousands of years ago and were as sketchy as ancient Greek history is to us. Another example of this, besides yours, is when Paris refers to a whoopee cushion as "ancient technology".

The educated and intrepid crews should have as much appreciation for the 20th century as we do for the 17th century. We know what technology they were capable of back then. We are even quite aware of their culture and attitudes. Why are these characters portrayed as so ignorant?

Re: VOY S7: Lineage

I'm sorry. I will probably regret writing this comment...but....

@Michael: I have been steadily working through all the seasons, and coming here after watching each episode. I have gritted my teeth for six and a half seasons now and I can't take it any more. Are you a ten year old boy? What do you want to see each week? An hour of space battles and laser fights? *That* would be inanely boring, *not* this episode - which is mesmerising and speaks to me on so many levels (I am in a mixed race relationship myself). The futuristic context absolutely brings something to the table that mainstream soap operas could never hope to reach.

This episode is a morality play - commenting on issues from a unique (sci-fi inspired) perspective. That is what Gene Roddenberry set out to accomplish - he (and every Star Trek fan except you it seems) did not want another teenage, banal, tasteless, shallow Sci-fi serial. I think you would be quite happy if Captain Proton was a real show.

Change the record. Stop writing the same damn comment on practically every episode except ones where the Borg blow everything up.

I apologise in advance. That was many months of pent-up frustration.

Re: VOY S6: One Small Step

Chakotay should have been court-martialed for his misguided, potentially fatal command decision.

He was selfish. He shouldn't have put his own interests above the safety of his subordinates (and friends). Morally inexcusable.

Re: VOY S5: Bride of Chaotica!

Absolutely, Iceblink. In the coffee scene with Neelix, she is unnecessarily rude. She also puts her own desire for coffee above the energy needs of the community she is supposed to be guiding.

Compare this to the enlightened scientist, and inspiring leader Janeway was in the first and second seasons.

Re: VOY S5: Latent Image

To all those incredulous about the EMH having sentience: what do you think is so magical about skin and flesh?

Re: VOY S4: Nemesis

I'd like to know under what circumstances the universal translator would translate an alien language into such a bizarre form of English.

Re: VOY S3: Scorpion, Part I

I didn't like many of Janeway's sentiments in this episode. For example at one point she says to the Doctor:

"I want you to transfer all of the research [the nanoprobe modifications] into your holomatrix. You're my guarantee. If the Borg threaten us in any way - we'll simply erase your program."

If Torres or one of the others had come up with the technology, would she have so calmly said something along the lines of: "Lieutenant, keep this technology to yourself. Don't discuss it with anyone. If the Borg try to assimilate us, I'll simply kill you" ... ?

Re: VOY S2: Deadlock

I didn't agonise too much about which was the 'real' Voyager, the 'duplicate', the 'original' blah blah blah.

Every cell in our bodies are replaced every 7 years. Are we the same people that we were at birth?

And what about the transporters?

Not a big deal.

Re: VOY S2: Dreadnought

It's not about the relative improbability of each event. That is how you would calculate the statistical probability in a *single* universe. The idea is that you trasnfer your calculation to the multiverse where you are merely picking a universe.

OK, OK, OK. I concede to call a spade a spade! It wouldn't happen...

Re: VOY S2: Dreadnought

@Ken "99% of the shows take place in the same universe/reality anyway." - EXACTLY, and what makes you think THIS universe/reality isn't the 'strange' one, where all these unlikely things happen?

Haha, again I agree it's absurd: but @Destructor's justification is interesting, amusing and does make logical sense, considering that Star Trek has already established that the multiverse exists (e.g. TOS's 'Mirror, Mirror', DS9's 'Shattered Mirror' etc).

But of course, @Destructor, @Ken and myself are all on the same side: in 'reality' all these events are crazily impossible considering the vastness of the Milky Way galaxy. And it is exceptionally lame that the crew keeps bumping into Alpha Quadrant objects, the other Caretaker etc.

Re: VOY S2: Dreadnought

Haha, I get what @Destructor is saying. Given that there are 'infinite' parallel versions of the universe nested within a 'multiverse' - then the probability that we are 'observing' that particular version (where all of the unlikely occurences that we've seen on Voyager thus far, all happen in an unlikely chain) - is no more or less likely than observing a universe where these events didn't occur.

It's similar to the fact that, in a lottery where 6 numbers between 1 and 40 are drawn at random, the probability of the numbers resulting in the sequence: 1,2,3,4,5,6 - is no more or less likely than any other 6 number sequence.

It's a silly answer to a silly premise.

Re: VOY S2: Alliances

@Destructor. Yes, it occured to me to. When Janeway was visiting them in sickbay, I just thought "white farmers"!

Anyway, on to the next episode - 'Meld'...

Re: VOY S2: Persistence of Vision

It's all very simple, and mentioned in the dialogue: Templeton is the house keeper and Janeway is playing the governess.

Re: VOY S2: The 37's

First of all, I can't believe no one's mentioned the similarity of this episode to TNG's 'The Neutral Zone'.

Second of all, all of the plot holes mentioned above are trifling compared to the idea of Voyager happening across these abducted humans given there are are approx. 1 trillion planets in the Milky Way galaxy. 400 years later? It wouldn't happen in a billion years.