Star Trek: The Next Generation
"Ship in a Bottle"
Air date: 1/25/1993
Written by Rene Echevarria
Directed by Alexander Singer
Review by Jamahl Epsicokhan
In the process of making repairs to the holodeck, Barclay inadvertently uncorks the program of Professor Moriarty (Daniel Davis), the holodeck character that somehow achieved self-awareness in second season's "Elementary, Dear Data." Moriarty says he has been aware of the passage of time during his program's state of hibernation and demands to speak to Picard, who promised to investigate a way to free Moriarty from the confines of the holodeck.
Moriarty, however, remains a mysterious miracle of technology, and Starfleet's best programmers have not figured out a way to regenerate a holodeck matrix outside a holodeck. But Moriarty is so sure of his existence that he demonstrates mind over matter — and to everyone's astonishment, steps right off the holodeck and into the corridor of the Enterprise.
"Ship in a Bottle" is a fun ride that takes the "holodeck runs awry" motif and puts a welcome and original spin on it, with some cleverly brilliant twists of the plot. The results are as sly and imaginative as "Fistful of Datas" was tedious and forgettable. This is a bona fide sci-fi outing that considers the nature of existence for a character who is genuinely curious about the universe and is looking for a way to appease that curiosity — and who will not be fully satisfied until someone finds a way to get him off the Enterprise, along with doing the same for his beloved companion, Countess Regina Bartholamew (Stephanie Beacham), who is still trapped in the holodeck. "No" is not an option.
But things are not as they seem. Data discovers that Moriarty didn't actually step off the holodeck, but instead used clever sleight of hand to make it appear so. Picard, Data, and Barclay are actually still on the holodeck, trapped in an elaborate simulation of the Enterprise that Moriarty devised in order to manipulate the entire situation (Picard unwittingly gives his access codes to the holodeck version of the computer, which in turn gives them to Moriarty, who uses them to take control of the ship.)
If there's perhaps an unsung moment in this episode, it's the reaction of the simulated Geordi as he listens to Data explain to Picard that the entire engineering deck is a simulation — including Geordi. It's simultaneously funny, sad, and weirdly eerie. It's like watching holo-Geordi as he falls through the rabbit hole; surely he wasn't designed to be self-aware, but merely an elaborate copy of Geordi based on personnel files and carefully programmed responses. And yet in this moment, it's like he has become self-aware by being informed he's not real, because the program is forced to deal with a reality it wasn't designed for. Holo-Geordi's reaction is one of confused, disquieted silence — as if that's all the program can do once confronted with this feedback loop. LeVar Burton sells it.
Apart from the interesting philosophical dialogue about Moriarty's state of existence, "Ship in a Bottle" (a great title, by the way) is just a plain good time, using storytelling trickery to good effect. While I will always resist the unlikely notion that the holodeck is so flawless that it is utterly indistinguishable from reality, this episode takes that conceit and executes it wonderfully, establishing some narrative rules that it then doesn't break. (Note how the editing rhythm never cuts to the typical external view of the Enterprise in between scenes as long as we remain inside the holodeck.)
And I liked the appropriate turn of tables where, once Picard and Data realized they've been duped by Moriarty's illusion, they then use the same trick on him, creating a holodeck within a holodeck, and then giving him exactly what he wants — an escape to a "real world" by creating the illusion of a world outside of the holodeck, even though he never leaves it. Ultimately, Moriarty and the Countess (who also achieves self-awareness, somehow, thanks to Moriarty — a point the story unfortunately never adequately deals with) are able to tour the cosmos inside the confines of a computer program that runs inside a little cube. Picard's closing line on the nature of reality provides the story a perfect note of whimsy, suggesting our own reality may simply be built upon perspectives stemming from the knowledge available to us: "All this might just be an elaborate simulation, running inside a little device, sitting on someone's table."
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75 comments on this post
Fri, Jun 22, 2012, 12:06am (UTC -5)
I was sad that Moriarty didn't mention Dr. Pulaski by name at the beginning. The last time we ever hear her mentioned by name is in season 3's "Who Watches the Watchers"--and then that's all she wrote. No reunion episode or cameo in any subsequent seasons.
Fri, Jun 22, 2012, 2:48am (UTC -5)
I hope his box didn't get blown up with the Enterprise D and that Moriaty and the Doctor (Voyager) are now drinking buddies.
Fri, Jun 22, 2012, 1:30pm (UTC -5)
Sun, Jun 24, 2012, 9:35am (UTC -5)
Mon, Jun 25, 2012, 1:14pm (UTC -5)
Mon, Jun 25, 2012, 6:45pm (UTC -5)
Mon, Jun 25, 2012, 8:10pm (UTC -5)
I have the same reaction to nearly every seen, at first glance, I LIKE it, but when I stop to think about what's been said, it's empty.
Take, for instance :
PIC : "I have come here to prevail on your intelligence and your insight."
Countess : "But not apparently on my humility!"
PIC : "Credit where credit is due, madam. I can see you are a woman not only of breeding, but of whit and sagacity"
Countess : "And you, sir, are a man of charm...and guile. You remind me of Viscount Oglethorpe (he was a man who could bewitch any woman who breathed)."
PIC: "And do you suspect that that is my intent?"
Countess : "I cannot be certain of your intent, but I am certain you're the kind of man who usually gets exactly what he wants."
The tenor of the language clearly shows the writer knew he was writing for two Brits of high manner, and it's really lovely to listen to, but what on earth are they TALKING about? Are they flirting? Is Picard manipulating a hologram? Given especially the way (aptly pointed out by Jammer) holo-Geordi behaves and speaks, this dialogue is utterly pointless and, by extension, aggravating.
Still present are the charm and performances, lamentably absent are the wonder, the whit and the profundity of "Elementary, Dear Data." 2.5 stars from me.
Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 2:16am (UTC -5)
Tue, Jul 3, 2012, 4:31pm (UTC -5)
Eliott's points are interesting. It's been too long since I've seen the episode to comment, but I do think that the episode is more puzzlebox with a few hints of philosophy rather than puzzlebox as a mechanism to explore philosophy. Puzzlebox stories -- stories whose primary pleasures are about the surprise and joy of seeing characters dupe one another -- are often fun but can feel a little empty afterward. That said, I think that what helps the episode is the fact that Doyle's Moriarty himself is a character who specializes in this type of plotting. Though the episode doesn't articulate this, the fact that Moriarty continues using deceit and death threats in order to get what he wants may actually be an argument that he is still constrained by his original programming, still the person he was written to be. I'd keep this at 3.5 stars, I think.
Mon, Sep 2, 2013, 10:56am (UTC -5)
I am already uncomfortable with the notion of holodeck characters gaining sentience. Too many icky possibilities. Certainly don't need them walking among us.
I have no problem with Moriarty being unable to tell a simulated reality from a real one. He's never experienced the real world. But I can see it being elaborate enough wherein someone like Data would realise it before a normal human.
Thu, Sep 5, 2013, 11:51pm (UTC -5)
And that is how the whole episode is structured. This and "Elementary, Dear Data" are quite the pair, and they come at the problem from different angles; actually I think that they are reflections of each other, "EDD" starting small and ending big, and "Ship in a Bottle" starting big and ending small. "Elementary, Dear Data" begins with Pulaski arguing that it is not possible for a computer to overcome its programming, even Data, and ends with the possibility of genuine hope that Moriarty may one day leave the holodeck, and the possibility that he is a changed man. This episode moves in the exact opposite direction, beginning with the revolutionary idea that Moriarty can, through force of will alone, walk off the holodeck, and ending with Moriarty's chances to live out in the real world ended forever: he is given a comfortable illusion, and will stay there the rest of his days. The episode's last reveal works opposite to the first "reveal": we initially see Moriarty leaving the holodeck, and finally see him permanently confined to the memory cube. In some senses, then, the episode is the somewhat conservative counterpart to "Elementary, Dear Data," all about placing limits on the boundless imagination of that story. In some ways, that strikes me as a tiny bit sad; that Moriarty will never be able to leave the holodeck, and that he is still a villain after all this time, feels a little reactionary. "Elementary, Dear Data" was more optimistic, and maybe truer to the Trek spirit as a result. And yet, this episode also says something true about human nature even in addition to the themes about technology, fiction, and reality itself, which is that in the end, old patterns do resurface; a person who once was a villain sometimes will return to that role when they have no more options.
(Given that in "Elementary, Dear Data," I was a little disappointed that Data was not more involved in solving the problem, thus leaving the beginning of the episode's story -- the wager between Data and Pulaski -- unfinished, I'm glad that it's Data who discovers, through quick thinking, observation and "deduction," i.e. being Holmes-esque, that they are still in a simulation, closing off one of the threads from that episode that I found a bit loose.)
So, Moriarty's brilliant, evil plan comes down to: pretend that his sentience, his inner life, can give him physical form; use this paradigm shift to convince the crew that it is possible to do so, and hold the ship hostage until they do. I really wish I could go back and see this episode for the first time, because the audacity of what Moriarty does is something that is hard to pull off: have a character do something that seems to be impossible, but then convince the audience that it's possible, because the audience is willing to believe that the fictional rules can change; then pull the rug out from under the audience and reveal that, no, of course the character didn't do this and it was a trick. It relies on our understanding of genre conventions, our knowledge that the internal rules of a universe should remain constant, and yet that they are sometimes broken. (My favourite instance of this in television is from an episode of FIREFLY, but I've said too much.) But anyway, Moriarty knows that he does not have physical form, and knows that the idea that he can just walk off the holodeck is ridiculous, but he also knows how much power an idea has. At the same time he's lying, he's also acting out of a belief that the reality he creates in which he can walk off the holodeck is so powerful, it will completely transform Picard, Data and Barclay until they are able to come up with an actual idea that can get Moriarty off. And I think that's part of the trick to this story, that makes the episode such a delight: the recognition that our perception of reality matters almost as much as reality itself runs through the whole show.
I think that explains some of the scenes like the one Elliott mentions, between Picard and the Countess. What is the point of having Picard spend time flirting with a holodeck character? Well, first of all, the Countess, unlike holo-Geordi, is sentient; Moriarty "made her so," somehow, maybe (by analogy with the way he was created to outwit Data) by making her an opponent capable of being classier than Picard. And second, I think the point is: Picard needs to find a way to control Moriarty's perception of the world. The way he does this is to play out, as carefully as he can, what he would do if indeed he *had* found a way to get Moriarty off the holodeck, in order to set up the final twist in which Moriarty "gets off the holodeck" in a way that keeps him there forever. So Picard flatters her, slightly overdoing it, as if buttering her up for the final request wherein he asks her to get Moriarty to release the ship. He needs to make it so real for her that she believes it, so that Moriarty believes it entirely, to the point where Moriarty has no doubts as he is "beamed" away into another part of the holodeck (within the holodeck!), and he sees the world there with fresh, believing eyes. Picard plays the role here because that is the way to make the simulation real for Moriarty, just as the role Moriarty played throughout the first half of this episode was to make the possibility of bringing the Countess into the "real world" real to Picard, Data and Barclay.
In its own way, the ending is both happy and sad. Moriarty and the Countess are together, and will be forever, and they are both real and sentient. They are in a reality which in certain respects is as "real" as the outside world; certainly, Moriarty and the Countess themselves are as real, and if they can't tell the difference, does it really matter? And yet, every person that Moriarty and the Countess meet, every experience they have, is only a facsimile. Moriarty had aimed higher. The reason that he is given this simulation, which is a type of prison, albeit an extremely benign one, is that, in the end, he proved that his sentience and life did not lead him to break free of his programming entirely. He's still willing to do evil; when an unpredictable evil genius takes a starship of a thousand people hostage if he doesn't get what he wants, and what he wants still seems to be impossible, there is little that can be done but to convince him that he has what he wants and to keep him from having the power to kill others again. Moriarty and the Countess have the opportunity to live out their lives in the only way that holodeck characters, even sentient ones, can at this stage; the Doctor would be horrified, and Voyager's complex take on the holographic rights issues are several leaps forward from this, not in quality of writing per se so much as in the amount of "rights" "granted" to holographic characters, to the possibility that a being which existed only in computer memory really can some day hope to step out into it. This episode closes that off for Moriarty, but it's also the best solution that Picard et al. can give for a man like Moriarty, who has clearly demonstrated that he is no longer willing to wait. And there is the consolation that what Moriarty wanted most, to be with the Countess without being limited to a fictional London, he got.
I really like the use of Barclay here as a normal guy -- still neurotic, but whose neuroses don't drive the episode. He also is, of course, the perfect person to deliver the final line.
I think 3.5? Maybe 4, though. I did enjoy this a lot, and I think I only scratched the surface talking about it here. Reality is inscrutable!
Fri, Nov 1, 2013, 11:15am (UTC -5)
Wed, Nov 13, 2013, 11:39pm (UTC -5)
Sat, Nov 16, 2013, 10:45pm (UTC -5)
Thu, Jun 26, 2014, 1:28am (UTC -5)
I can imagine a follow up to this episode where they enter the simulation with Moriarty & his lover and give them a choice - leave the simulation and finally be in the real world, or stay in it.
That would be a great story. If they had made lives for themselves inside the simulation, would they choose to leave it?
"Imagine Captain Jellico in this scenario...he'd be no match for Moriarty."
Jellico talking to Moriarty: I prefer a certain... formality on the bridge.
Jellico to Riker: Oh and... get that damn holodeck character out of the ready room.
Fri, Aug 1, 2014, 5:03am (UTC -5)
Fri, Aug 1, 2014, 11:34am (UTC -5)
That's actually a pretty good point!
It seems that Captain Picard has a bias against artificial life forms .... it also doesn't occur to him Data deserves a command position in "Redemption Part II", and he assumes that the Exocomps aren't alive after a few simple tests. It probably was NOT intentional on the writer's part, but I like to think it was because Picard had a distaste for AI after his experience with the Borg.
I wonder if anyone thought of Moriarty and the Countess when the Federation extended full rights to sentient photonic life forms.
Fri, Aug 1, 2014, 1:42pm (UTC -5)
Or something more deep-rooted, like revulsion at his own cyborg heart. But probably not; Picard probably took his prosthesis for granted, just like the writers, who usually forgot it was there, whirring in his chest for 7 seasons and 4 movies.
Wherever the prejudice comes from, it wasn't operative when Picard chose Data to join his crew, despite the captain's frequent confusion and annoyance aimed at his 2nd officer. The show's anti-post-human stance didn't emerge until after Roddenberry decided to graft his Questor concepts onto the TNG cast.
Fri, Aug 1, 2014, 4:21pm (UTC -5)
I know the writers weren't clever enough to think of such a thing, but your insight would be great to base an episode on!
I can only shake my head at the producers who said they ran out of good story ideas in Season 7 . . .
Mon, Aug 4, 2014, 7:59pm (UTC -5)
Besides, Moriarty tried to take over the ship twice. You can't blame Picard for not being a fervent supporter of his rights.
Yes, the final solution is a bit hard to swallow. And perhaps it does deserve more weight, as Elliot suggested. It's a very good point; this episode does just dance around a meaty issue just for the sake of a good time. That's the sort of thing that Voyager is constantly criticized for, so shouldn't it be a criticism here?
Maybe, but I can't help but admit that it was a darned good time. And I do still enjoy this episode and rate it highly.
Maybe its because I'm not so convinced they are sentient. Especially the countess. So Moriarty programmed her with consciousness? How? It seems pretty convenient that even with her free will, she still ends up exactly the way he wants her to be. Likewise, the explanation for Moriarty's sentience never made much sense. Accidentally creating sentience like that seems rather fishy to me. And WilliamB is right, Moriarty is acting more like the fictional character here. So I guess the fact that I don't find the nature of their sentience be convincing means I don't care too much about a meaty solution to their problem. Which means I can just enjoy it as a fun episode.
And wow is it a fun episode.
Mon, Aug 4, 2014, 8:37pm (UTC -5)
Mon, Sep 8, 2014, 9:16am (UTC -5)
If these holodecks were in modern times, wouldn't they simply be "sex boxes".
Therefore, if the Enterprise can make holo-people real, then what would be the consequences of having a holo-"partner".
Holo - alimony payments ???
Sun, Sep 28, 2014, 9:22pm (UTC -5)
(Was Moriarty strictly the first self-aware holographic person in Trek? He certainly would not be the last.)
Something to think about, if you like: how do you know that the Countess is "sentient"? Because she asserts it? Because the deceptive "archnemesis" does? If Moriarty can successfully 'program' the holodeck to simulate big sections of the Enterprise and local space and Picard's own crew interacting with him--surely he could simulate a sentient Countess to Picard who didn't know her in any sense. Unless, of course, *simulated sentience* isn't literally possible--if sufficient engineered complexity of simulation ends up being *the same thing* as sentience arising "naturally." As is the case in androids? Right? What matters is the internal complexity of the program and the connectedness of its I/O--not the location of its hardware.
Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 8:48am (UTC -5)
What we have here is Trek taking on huge issues (what is life?, how do we define freedom?, who do we think deserves freedom?, what is our relationship with artificial intelligence?, even metaphysics) head on and yet not descending into full-scale preaching mode (a la "The Neutral Zone") or just downright boredom (a la "The Masterpiece Society"). "Ship in a Bottle" is also, at its heart, a rather fun, exciting and thoroughly enjoyable adventure story - one that is definitely worthy of the characters of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Maybe it doesn't explore the implications of all the issues it raises (which is why Moriarty really should have been used more than just twice) but it is still a damn fine episode. The stand-out scene for me, however, isn't the one with Holo-LaForge in Engineering (though it is a rather good one). It's when Moriarty appears to simply walk off the holodeck with the declaration "Cogito ergo sum." Stewart, Spiner and Schultz's reactions to Moriarty's apparent miracle are wonderful. They all sell the various degrees of curiosity and utter astonishment perfectly - particularly Spiner.
I also love Moriarty as a villain. Good villains are intelligent, calculating and, above all, completely sane. Bad villains are often over-the-top, zany, cartoonish characters. Compare Moriarty to the holographic villains from "A Fistful of Datas" to see what I mean. This is a man who needs to be taken seriously. And that makes the heroes' triumph over him that much more satisfying. Well done.
If there is one problem I have with this episode it's that they leave a fairly obvious idea off the table when it comes to getting Moriarty and the Countess off the holodeck. Yes, I'm going there, but why couldn't they rig up a mobile emitter? Seriously, is it so outside these people's (or the writer's) conceptual framework to think up a "moving holodeck"? Of course, we finally get one over on "Voyager" for The Doctor, but even then the writers had to resort to using "technology from the future" to solve the problem. Just rig up something that Moriarty and the Countess can carry with them like a backpack or a briefcase and - WHAMO! - problem solved. Now, that probably wouldn't be exactly what Moriarty had in mind, as they would still be completely dependent on the technology, but it's better than confinement to the gird.
Finally, I just wanted to say that Season Six has been pleasantly surprising me during this re-watch. This is the ninth episode - nine episodes! - in a row that I've given an above-average score to. That's a new record for Trek. The previous one was six in a row back in TNG Season Three ("The High Ground," "Deja Q," "A Matter of Perspective," Yesterday's Enterprise," "The Offspring" and "Sins of the Father). I did not expect this season to be this good. Sadly, if I were a gambling man, I would bet that this is where this run will end. Because I doubt the upcoming episode will measure up. :(
Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 8:19pm (UTC -5)
That rather gaping plot hole aside, this is one of my all-time favorite TNG episodes. I still wonder if Moriarty and his little holo-box survived the Enterprise-D's destruction. For that matter, I'd love to hear about his adventures. Imagine a 19th century criminal genius traveling the galaxy in the 24th century. Just what kind of experiences would he have? How would he interact with others? How does he and the Countess adapt?
Sun, Oct 4, 2015, 1:47pm (UTC -5)
Moriarty's motivations are subtle and increasingly unclear as we progress - from reformed character, back to arch villain, and then, in the end, reformed character again. It leaves us questioning what is real and what is not real - Barclay's final nervous "Computer, end program" beautifully caps the episode.
A fun and thoroughly involving hour with a twist that I never saw coming (even if it then sells a second twist far too easily!). "There's something wrong with the holodeck" indeed. 3.5 stars.
Sat, Dec 5, 2015, 8:41am (UTC -5)
"Given that in "Elementary, Dear Data," I was a little disappointed that Data was not more involved in solving the problem, thus leaving the beginning of the episode's story -- the wager between Data and Pulaski -- unfinished, I'm glad that it's Data who discovers, through quick thinking, observation and "deduction," i.e. being Holmes-esque, that they are still in a simulation, closing off one of the threads from that episode that I found a bit loose.)"
William B states it nicely. Once Data figures out how Moriarty left the holodeck (he never did), it would have been nice if Geordi had given Data credit for winning the bet with Pulaski from "Elementary Dear Data" where she boasts that Data could never solve a true "Holmes-esque" mystery. HE DID! Mention it!
Tue, Feb 2, 2016, 6:31am (UTC -5)
I'll put my thoughts into a narrower beam: Are the safties off in his holocube? The galaxy can be a dangerous place. If he is fighting three ruffians, do they stand there and wait for him to get back up again, so he can take them on one-by-one, or do they all beat him up at once? If he is shot by a phaser, does it miraculously end up on 'stun'? And if so, would Moriarty realize that things were not what they seem?
Or, is this a stylized verson of the galaxy that isn't quite so dangerous? And would Moriarty figure that out as well?
Or, if the safties are not on, and the galaxy is a dangerous place, what if they are fired upon by a Bird-of-Prey and destroyed? Does the program stop? What if he Does get beaten up by those three ruffians and dies in the hospital? Does the Countess go on in the holo? Were she to die, would Moriarty continue on or go insane?
In sickbay, they said he had internal organs, but that was a holo-sickbay that he controlled. Is he 'live' in the holocube, or is he hologram that is not able to be damaged in the same way a mortal being might be?
My head hurts... :)
Have a great day... RT
Tue, Feb 2, 2016, 10:10am (UTC -5)
Safeties are designed to prevent living beings inside the program from being harmed. It doesn't matter if the safeties are off in the cube, since holograms can hurt holograms regardless of safeties.
The whole "he has internal orgrans" scene was part of Moriarty's ruse, so don't take it seriously.
Sat, Jun 18, 2016, 3:46am (UTC -5)
Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 2:16am (UTC -5)
A clear rip off of Inception
You do realize that this episode came out nearly 20 years before Inction?
Sat, Oct 1, 2016, 6:54pm (UTC -5)
- Moriarty telling Riker that he won't release the ship until he's aboard the shuttlecraft....this makes no sense. The Enterprise could easily overtake the shuttle and disable it in seconds. As could virtually any other ship the shuttlecraft encounters. Why does Moriarty think he'll be safe once he's aboard the shuttle?
- Lt. Barclay saying that the 'left-hand right-hand' problem must be because of the matrix diodes....I don't think so. This would be a software glitch. Basically, it would be like saying my computer game isn't working, so I'm going to open up the computer and adjust one of the screws holding down the motherboard.....um no. The problem is with the software. Matrix diodes (projectors) are just hardware - the problem would be in the programming language of the running holodeck program, not a physical object like 'diodes'
- Moriarty saying he doesn't trust Picard anymore, even though Picard went out of his way to go visit a holodeck character. The fact that the program is still there, and the fact that Picard came to see him should have given every evidence that Picard is trustworthy in every way.
- As we've been told several times, both by the show and the technical manuals that have come out, everything in the holodeck is a projection. Therefore, there is NOTHING inside of any of the holodeck characters. They are simply an outer shell meant to give the illusion of a solid object. So even if Moriarty COULD leave the holodeck, he would immediately fall apart, since all he actually is, is a microscopic outer shell being projected. This makes the entire premise of the show ridiculous. Even if he could be beamed into real life by the transporter, the only thing being 'beamed' is the outer shell, with nothing inside.
- The Federation does have holo-projectors that allow characters like the doctor on Voyager limited movement in the real world. Couldn't this be setup for him?
I did really enjoy both of the Moriarty episodes, and I thought the actor completely owned both shows with his wonderful performance, which is why I continue to watch these.
Sat, Oct 15, 2016, 4:17pm (UTC -5)
A space-faring species with the ability to create realistic simulations and replicate food would absolutely not allow the Holodeck systems to connect to the ship's command systems in any way. I do network engineering for a living and segmenting systems is a key security measure.
I enjoyed the episode after setting that aside but it makes it hard to take the show seriously. That's a common issue I have with TV and movie writing in general, though, situations that require some unrealistic carelessness and lack of learning from history.
Other than that I enjoyed the episode, the twists used was somewhat novel for the time though I'm bummed that Moriarity gave up the command without pondering the idea he too was being trapped in a hologram. I would have preferred an ending where Picard gives the command codes and finds out they were fake and that Moriarity knew what was going on but also knew that truly leaving the holodeck was impossible. That ultimately being able to live in a simulated world would be his only realistic goal and the goal he had attained. Moriarity was made to beat Data so he should have been smarter than he ended up being.
I'd give it a 2 1/2 which is pretty high for me to give ST:TNG.
Mon, Oct 24, 2016, 6:04pm (UTC -5)
The writers were obviously NOT technically proficient in any way - their main purpose, as with virtually all television shows, was to provide entertainment, not to give you a technically accurate future.
If you really want to get into the nitty gritty of the supposed holodeck:
- How can several people exist on the holodeck in different places at the same time while hidden from each other? What is the barrier that keeps one person in one reality, and ten other people in completely separate perspectives that don't overlap in the small space inside the holodeck? So basically they are floating all over the place inside the holodeck, each real person being given their own perspective and own projection which somehow rejoins with others with they get close to their location?
- How do we keep seeing people eat/drink object on the holodeck? Shouldn't the food/drink dissapear from their digestive tract once they leave the program?
- How much energy would really be needed to create entire worlds inside the holodeck, with objects that become solid as the real person encounters them? It would seem like a beach scene with the ocean extending out would take massive amounts of energy to create, not to mention the massive amounts of computing power needed to recreate other human characters that attempt to act/think like people. Could a single ship really power such a device without draining all of their resources?
- Could computer generated 'parameters' about a real-life person really mimic that person exactly in real life? Would the holodeck Dr. Crusher really act anything like there real one just because it knows a couple of her characteristics?
- Shouldn't Picard have picked up on the fact that things were wrong very quickly in the holodeck? After all, it was merely a recreation of the ship. Meaning, all of the objects all over the place that exist on the real Enterprise would not be reflected on the holodeck. Say Picard moved his personal computer over to the left side of his desk - there's no way the holodeck would know this, it simply recreates the room based on schematics.
And on and on and on if you really want to get into this.........
Thu, Dec 1, 2016, 7:26pm (UTC -5)
Fri, Feb 24, 2017, 7:47pm (UTC -5)
Were you implying that the doctor could have given his holographic family consciousness the same way Moriarty was given it?
Sat, Apr 15, 2017, 3:09pm (UTC -5)
Wed, May 17, 2017, 5:48pm (UTC -5)
Mon, Sep 4, 2017, 12:53pm (UTC -5)
I had a great friend for whom I played EDD and this episode back to back; as you might have guessed already, he was the person who'd turned me on to Arthur Conan Doyle many decades ago. He'd lived well, just without a television. So when he'd visit, I'd show him things that I thought would appeal to him. It did.
I'm astounded (I even did a web page search for applicable terms, in case I'd missed someone's review who'd mentioned it)! No one has framed this ending in terms of it paralleling "The Managerie." Since it's an accepted meme here that Moriarity and the Countess were sentient, we've certainly come a long way since TOS and the Talosians, haven't we? :)
Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 12:39am (UTC -5)
Tng really never revisited earlier threads but Moriarty seemed like a good one to revisit.
I guess they didn’t want to namecheck Pulaski outright so they made an oblique reference to her/- I appreciated it as a callback to “Elementary my dear Data”
Barclay good choice to accidentally unlock Moriarty.
The show did a good job tricking me. I was totally bewildered when Moriarty walked out the holodevk and didn’t disintegrate. Then I was further floored when Dr Crusher Confirned he was flesh and blood
Things got really interesting as Picard Er al monitoring the gas giants when lights went off and computers began to flicker. Surprise— Moriarty somehow gained control of the ship.
I enjoyed seeing Data, Geordi and Barclay try to figure out a way to get a holographic object out of the holodeck into the real world. I was genuinely curious if they would succeed.
I loved Stephanie Beecham’s Countess. Her personality was great and every scene she was in was a true joy
The dialogue stood out too
Everything moving along then we get first inkling something is off by Data’s reaction to the transporter logs. What’s going on? I also enjoyed the dominant hand holodeck glitch playing into the plot letting Dara realize what was going on. When he flung his commbadge against the warp core and it m pixelated revealing bits of the holodeck feud was a great moment
And the reveal that they had been on the holodeck the whole time explaining how Moriarty was able to pull off his daring feats—first walking out of the holodeck intact then gaining control of the ship—was a great one!! It made perfect sense but the idea never crashes see my mind
Then the episode fooled me again. I had actually thought Picard had actually figured out a way to beam the pair into the real world when he went to the Countess. So I was surprised in a good way when Picard appeared in the shuttlebay to Riker and Worf and revealed that it too was a simulation. I liked the idea that Picard l, try as he might, couldn’t come up with a solution to bring Moriarty into the real world. That even that was beyond the Enterprise crew’s skillset.
What Picard ultimately cane up with was a good compromise. Moriarty won’t be left in an existential limbo like he had been. He’s with the countess. For all he knows they are living out their lives in the real world
I also loved the anachronistic image of these characters in their vintage attire onboard a 24th century shuttlecraft traveling the stars. The scene of them taking all of it In was a nice moment capturing a true sense of awe and wonder
And the episode’s coda was pitch perfect. Picard’s musings on possibly not being more than simulations themselves inside someone else’s program was great. It made me stop and consider for a brief moment the possibility that maybe I too could be in a simulation. It had a very Twilight Zone feel in that moment. And after what Picard just went through I’d be wondering if that’s really the end of all the holodecking within holodecking there was
Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 6:40pm (UTC -5)
What I enjoyed is Moriarty and his curiosity and wanting to share it with the countess. Their amazement at taking a shuttle and going off to the stars was really well portrayed -- it is the vastness of space that is just incredible. Moriarty and Picard also had a good little debate on ethics given the newly created life form. It was a clever cat and mouse game -- never nasty and always with class -- between Picard and Moriarty, something which is a hallmark for Trek.
Both actors who portrayed Moriarty and the countess did a perfect job -- their mannerisms and dialog really gave the impression of coming from the 19th century.
3 stars for "Ship in a Bottle" -- a good story, albeit a stretch with the holodeck character gaining sentience and perhaps even some of the holodeck within a holodeck and then communicating with a holodeck one level up. Great lines from Picard in the end theorizing that maybe they're in a holodeck on somebody's desk and then Barclay, who was used perfectly here as a 2ndary character, saying "Computer: End Program" (to no effect, of course).
Thu, Nov 2, 2017, 10:58pm (UTC -5)
Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:06pm (UTC -5)
A holodeck within a holodeck within a holodeck? It might be clever, but it's not very entertaining. For the final act, how did Picard, Data, and Barclay program such a vast illusion in such a short period of time? Too unbelievable, even for sci-fi.
Sat, Jan 6, 2018, 10:40pm (UTC -5)
I was always intrigued by Moriarty's claims that his has grown beyond his programming. It makes more sense to me that Moriarty is still “playing the game” he was created for, but on a grander scale with his own objectives. It’s been emphasized in both this episode and "Elementary Dear Data" how important Geordi’s wording of the parameters to his character was in bestowing him with sentience, but there’s another word Geordi uses that is not as well noticed: “opponent.”
Since his creation, Moriarty has been playing the role of opponent, making calculated moves involving both power grabs and appeals to sympathy, as well as anticipating the actions of Picard and crew in order to gain an advantage and eventually “win” his freedom. In “Elementary”, he appears to concede to Picard’s wishes when he agrees to let his hostage go and relinquish control of the holodeck, but this very well could have been a calculated move on his part to gain Picard’s trust. By then, he had probably determined Picard as a man of integrity who would not destroy him the first chance he got, so he figured his wish would either be granted, or he would have another opportunity to further his ends himself if it looked like Picard was not taking action.
Four years later, he is reactivated and immediately inquires about the status of his request. After learning that no gains have been made, he plays the sympathy card by claiming he was aware of the passage of time while in storage, which may be a lie and impossible as Barclay claims, but he takes advantage of Picard and the crew’s clear lack of knowledge and understanding when it comes to his unique existence, forcing them to take his statement at face value.
Once he springs his trap on Picard, Data, and Barclay and “walks out of the holodeck”, he shows he is capable of simply “willing” himself to exist in the real world, which makes him seem more powerful and dangerous in their eyes. However, he soon tempers that view by appealing to Picard’s generosity and to his own feelings of “isolation” and “loneliness”, using statements like “I am a powerless man” and expressing love for another being. Picard still won’t budge from his original stance however, leading Moriarty to make another power play and take control of what is ostensibly the entire ship.
In essence, Moriarty is doing a sort of reverse Good Cop/Bad Cop. He makes aggressive moves to intimidate, then backs off and appears more sympathetic and trustworthy, all to manipulate Picard and the crew to do what he wants. It is a delicate balance that he maintains well. If he appears too aggressive, Picard and crew might decide it’s not a good idea to acquiesce to his requests and instead put all their energy into resisting him; if he appears too sympathetic, they would not be motivated enough to act.
To me, all this reflects the Holmesian villain rather than something new, as he would lead us to believe.
Sun, Jan 7, 2018, 2:02am (UTC -5)
How does all of that achieve the end of "defeating Data"? Surely maneuvering Picard into giving him his freedom on the off-chance he's reactivated four years later doesn't satisfy his original programming of being an opponent to Data, specifically. Why should Data be considered defeated by someone else being free?
Sun, Jan 7, 2018, 8:05pm (UTC -5)
Interestingly enough, the initial parameters of Moriarty's program did not necessitate defeating Data. Geordi's line in "Elementary" was: "create a mystery to confound Data with an opponent who has the ability to defeat him." Then a little later, when the computer asks Geordi to define the parameters of the game: "Create an adversary capable of defeating Data." Both times, the phrasing Geordi uses indicates Moriarty's potential ("who has the ability", "capable of"), but doesn't place limitations on what Moriarty's actual objective will be.
Moriarty claims that he has grown beyond his program's purpose because he no longer wishes to play the part of the villainous professor who matches wits with Sherlock Holmes, but all he has done is step into a bigger holodeck--a bigger story--as it were (which, yes, he literally does this in SIAB, but I'm referring to his interactions in reality with the Enterprise crew).
Mon, Jan 8, 2018, 12:37am (UTC -5)
I'm not really sure what you're getting at. You, yourself, just wrote that Moriarty was created to be an "adversary" to Data, so what exactly is adversarial about trying to get Picard to find a way to get him out of the Holodeck? Data would likely have been tickled if Moriarty was to obtain his freedom for real, so how exactly does that create adversity for Data? Your theory of the long con here is entertaining but also stretches the given circumstances past credulity and appears to contradict what we see. You'd have to introduce variables not in evidence to support the notion that the writers intended him to be planning some elaborate scheme to be this supposed adversary while in the meantime he declines to retain control of the ship when he has it and seems otherwise interested more in getting out of the holodeck than in causing anyone any harm.
I guess your interpretation would be that he surmised he cannot act as an adequate adversary unless he gains his freedom first? Not sure why he'd come to that conclusion, though, since defeating Data/Holmes was already within his power. Yes, his villain's objective was never specified, but it was specified that he was to be an adversary at the very least, in a mystery of the Holmes style, so that severely limits how far-out things could get. Painting both episodes as being trickery also seems to invalidate much of Moriarty's dialogue when alone with Pulaski in Elementary, since it gained him nothing and seems to have been him musing aloud for the audience's benefit.
Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 10:59pm (UTC -5)
I admit my analysis of Moriarty's character does stem a bit from speculative musing, but I think the facts do fit, or at the very least, suggest, my 'theory' as you say.
Let me re-emphasize that Moriarty was created to be "an opponent that can defeat Data", not "an opponent who must defeat Data" or "an opponent who wants to defeat Data", so I don't think that defeating Data was ever really his motive.
When Moriarty is first "created", he soon comes to realize he is part of a larger world than 19th Century London, and it is a world he does not fully understand, but he is able to rapidly absorb and analyze it thanks to his programming. However, Moriarty forsees the limit of this understanding as he finds out he is not able to leave the holodeck (Plato's Allegory of the Cave comes to mind). To be an adequate opponent, one must understand the extent of the game. One would be hard-pressed to win a game of chess by only using half of the board.
So you are right that I "surmise he cannot act as an adequate adversary unless he gains his freedom first." (a good way of concisely explaining a point that I didn't clearly make in my original post, by the way). He does eventually relinquish control of the Enterprise, but not to do so would probably be overplaying his hand. The Enterprise is just one ship in a vast universe he still has much to learn about, and many of the people he has come in contact with, while perhaps not as intelligent as he is, know a great deal more about it than him, and thus still have the advantage.
As far as how the "mystery of the Holmes style" comes into play, I'm not sure it's clear how this limits Moriarty, if at all. It may refer primarily to the Holodeck game Data and Geordi began to play before they encountered Moriarty, which of course, Moriarty dismisses in short order.
Moriarty's dialogue with Pulaski included several questions and yes, musings intended to gain more knowledge of the outside world. Granted, there was also tea and crumpets, but this is Moriarty's "good cop" at work.
Again, much of this is extrapolated from what we know of Moriarty's character and isn't explicitly stated as part of his thought process, but overall I think it paints an interesting picture and makes sense, given what we know.
Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 4:39pm (UTC -5)
"especially knowing about Moriarty's ruse... I think that helps a great deal, and perhaps should have been hinted at earlier, so that the audience was in on the deal and Picard et. al. weren't."
I think that's a great way to tell a story, when the audience knows something that the characters don't know. Examples: In "Conundrum," after the crew members lose their memories and suddenly there's an extra officer on the bridge; and when the crew of the NX-01 encounter the Romulans without actually seeing them.
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 10:43pm (UTC -5)
Looking back on this episode, do you think the ending and plot developments are expected and even predictable..how else could the episode have gone I mean?? One option I can think of is Moriarty actually escapes but never goes back and it stays a mystery and works on liberating fellow holograms like,the Countess..or he explores other holodeck programs as a sentient being like more Sherlock stories or other time period pr9grams..or he is destroyed..I do like that in the end the simulation he is trapped in includes the hol9deck in a homosexual and that he is in a shuttle traveling "the stars" as far as he knows..What does everyone else think??
Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 10:42pm (UTC -5)
I mean, Geordi just stars blankly at them as they discuss how everything isn't real, its a pretty surreal scene.
It would have been really funny if the (holographic) Geordi started to get visibly anxious when Data tells Picard that its all a simulation, and starts to freak out...all in the background of the scene. Picard and Data could be having their little talk about how Geordi isn't real and it's all fake and in the background you could just have the holographic Geordi pacing back and forth and saying "Oh my God, Oh my God, Oh my God..."
Wed, May 1, 2019, 9:12pm (UTC -5)
I liked Moriarty. It is unfortunate that I remembered Moriarty's trick and therefore there wasn't as much of a surprise. And yes, Picard's little comment on the show being a simulation running on a box on someone's desk was funny, as was Barclay checking once again at the end that they weren't still in the Holodeck.
I will overlook the obvious issues with the technology of the Holodeck.
Thu, May 2, 2019, 4:07pm (UTC -5)
Thankfully things pick up.
It was nice to have Moriarty back and I loved his moaning on to Barclay about being abandoned and forgotten.
If I was Moriarty I wouldn't believe Picard's obvious lies about Starfleet experts trying to find a way for him to leave the holodeck either-yeah sure Jean-Luc.
That's like Kirk trying to tell Khan he would have come back to check on him on Ceti Alpha VI but life just got in the way.
Stephanie Beacham is fab in this episode and the story is ingenious and fun.
Just keep that deerstalker away from Brent ,please.
Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 5:08pm (UTC -5)
I usually can't stand Barclay or his episodes, but there's little enough of him here to avoid much frustration with the episode. His interaction with the Countess is something of a fun moment, even, as is his wary "computer, end program" at the end. Don't worry, Barclay. You're real... or, at least, as real as our own "little device sitting on someone's table" makes you.
Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 1:55am (UTC -5)
Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 1:10am (UTC -5)
I wonder what happened to Moriarty's data cube when Troi crashed the Enterprise.
I like how Geordi almost literally goes to cry in the corner when he finds out he isn't real.
It would have been funny if Marina Sirtis were replaced with Fran Drescher in this episode as one of the holodeck glitches.
Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:01am (UTC -5)
This would of been so much better if she wore her onesie in the simulation (old files on charactets maybe?) And her starfleet uniform at the end as she now wears it from now on. (And is much better tbh)
Fri, May 15, 2020, 9:37pm (UTC -5)
Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 11:20am (UTC -5)
Moriarty's chat with Barclay -"Tell me lieutenant, if you loved a woman such as this, would you be content to leave her on the holodeck?". Moriarty's been trapped on the holodeck for 4 years - he knows EXACTLY what Barclay's been up to in there.
The ending - Moriarty knows he's still on the holodeck. I just can't see him falling for the same trick he pulled on the crew. I think he just wanted to give the countess "life" by letting her think they'd escaped to the real world. If my theory is correct, then in a way, he did become more than his original programming by releasing the crew and going against the evil character he was originally written to be. 4 stars.
Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 11:50am (UTC -5)
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Mon, Oct 5, 2020, 10:31pm (UTC -5)
But still, it’s a fabulous romp, treating Moriarty with the same respect as the original episode, and that’s very very nice. And it’s wonderful that the Countess was treated as an absolutely real character, with real scenes.
Sat, Oct 10, 2020, 2:43pm (UTC -5)
The guy who plays Moriarty is really very good, and Stephanie Beacham, perhaps best known to American and British viewers alike from Dynasty (although I remember her best from an ITV drama called 'Connie' personally) puts in a very good shift.
Really quite an imaginative and clever story this, with a clever twist when we discover that Picard, Reg and Data never actually left the Holodeck.
However - it's really a stretch to imagine that the computer's Holodeck technology is really as powerful as this. If it can create a self-aware, conscious person as clever and ingenious as Moriarty, it could create a couple of brilliant first officers, or science officers, or .. etc (actually I suppose that Voyager does explore this idea). Every crew member's cabin could be a miniature Holodeck, so they could appear to have 20 times the space they really have; perhaps even a 5 storey house as living quarters. Maybe the whole Enterprise could be a fraction of its usual (apparent) size, but still have a spacious holographic bridge, engineering sectiom, residential decks etc etc.
And the idea that the Holodeck's own Holodeck can be programmed to create realities independent of its parent. Far out.
The left hand / right hand thing didn't really work for me - seems a very coherent program bug.
And there's one odd moment when the transporter console reads "transport log 721", when the computer claims it is displaying log 759.
Nice that Picard refers to the Simulation Hypothesis at the end, there. Despite being a bit far-fetched even for the Star Trek franchise, a thought-provoking and entertaining episode.
Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 12:13am (UTC -5)
Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 12:54pm (UTC -5)
Besides, at any level of professionalism, a baseball player would be expected to have far better hand-eye coordination with either hand than Joe or Jane Public, so I wouldn't try to draw general inferences from them.
For my part, I'm right-handed, and will go to some lengths to favor that hand when trying to catch something, especially if I perceive it to be small or delicate.
Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 7:04pm (UTC -5)
What would also have been great fun would if they had made this a kicking off point for a spin-off series about the Voyages of Moriarty and the Baroness.
In the end it's arguable whether his universe in a cube is any less real than Picard's in the Enterprise. Or in The Inner Light.
Or ours. Or any of the others in an infinite Multiverse.r
Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 12:19am (UTC -5)
Thus it was that I "ruined" this episode for myself by guessing both twists as soon as they presented themselves. Which is not to say I didn't enjoy the episode; it was great fun. But if I hadn't been 100% positive from the moment Moriarty stepped off the holodeck that they were all still on the holodeck, I'm sure I'd have enjoyed it a lot more. Likewise, as soon as Picard went to see the Countess, I saw the twist ending coming.
None of this is meant to toot my own horn, but rather to say that the episode succeeds regardless of whether or not you're surprised by its twists. Everyone is on point, here, both in front of and behind the cameras. The writing was solid and snappy, and the actors (including the guest stars) were excellent.
Also, getting meta-humor right is a rare and precious thing. Barclay's final, paranoid command to empty air was an amusing ending, one that manages to suppose a viewer mindset without being obnoxious or presumptuous. (This has failed many times in tv and movies. X-Men Apocalypse's, "Everyone knows that the third movie is always the worst" comes to mind.)
It's a running gag between my BFF and I that we're living in a simulation, or a television show a la "The Truman Show". Neither of us actually believe that, but whenever something seems oddly coincidental or all-too apropos, we trot out a faux-weary, "That's life in the Matrix," and share a laugh. Picard's wink-wink, "This could all be an elaborate production for someone's entertainment" speech struck the right balance, IMHO.
Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 4:26pm (UTC -5)
And to raise a point I saw somewhere else, do those small shuttles have toilets, sonic showers, replicators, etc.? Yes, holograms don't have to sleep, eat, etc. but they don't think they are holograms anymore. Scotty was sent off in a shuttle as well. The inside looks rather spartan with few amenities. Traveling between planets must get pretty boring. I hope the computer has a lot of books in memory, at least.
I do like this episode. So far I've been impressed with Season 6.
Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:12am (UTC -5)
One irritation that I‘ve said before: Patrick Stewart is forced to pronounce ‘progress’ as ‘proggress’ and ‘route’ as ‘rowt’ not ‘root’ - yet Daniel Davis is allowed to say ‘leftenant’ instead of ‘lootenant’! Aaargh.
Anyway, 3.5 stars.
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>was the holodeck in holodeck not done before?
Red Dwarf series 2 had an episode called Better Than Life which did something very similar, it first aired in 1988 well before Ship In A Bottle.
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