Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
"Honor Among Thieves"
Air date: 2/23/1998
Teleplay by Rene Echevarria
Story by Philip Kim
Directed by Allan Eastman
Review by Jamahl Epsicokhan
"Back home, wherever that is, do you have a family?"
"Good. It's the most important thing."
— Bilby and O'Brien
Nutshell: Not the most original of plots, but extremely well acted.
It's easy to take the performances of a guy like Colm Meaney for granted. His character is one of the most skillfully performed "everymen" that I know. Meaney's the type guy where you almost never notice the performances, because they're so natural you just watch him and see "O'Brien." His character is perfectly suited for representing the average Joe in the world. He has his job, his family, his humility, and his convictions, and he doesn't really need or want anything else.
"Honor Among Thieves" is an episode that puts O'Brien through what co-executive producer Ron Moore has jokingly but accurately called the "annual O'Brien torture episode." It's in the spirit of such shows as "Whispers," "Visionary," "Hard Time," and "The Assignment"; O'Brien faces some sort of towering emotional, psychological, or high-pressure challenge that must be overcome.
"Honor Among Thieves" is probably not as extreme as some of the aforementioned examples, but it definitely puts O'Brien's moral sensibilities as a decent, average, down-to-earth guy to very good use. The plot is nothing earth-shaking or terribly original: It sends O'Brien on an undercover mission to a distant planet by order of Starfleet Intelligence. His goal is to infiltrate the nefarious Orion Syndicate, an organization that has been mentioned in dialog several times on DS9 but hasn't actually been an integral part of a storyline. Starfleet has learned they have a hidden Syndicate agent somewhere in their midst, but they need to find out who it is—hence O'Brien's mission.
The man O'Brien must gain the trust of is named Bilby, a mostly insignificant member of the Syndicate who has carved out his place on this cruddy little world with the hopes of someday moving up in the organization. He's perpetually "down on his luck," always on the lookout for an opportunity that will convince him his luck has finally changed and his big break has arrived. He has a few other Syndicate thugs he works with, but in his mind he works alone, carrying out the tasks the Syndicate gives him to the best of his ability (since any less would mean his own death at the hands of the Syndicate, an organization that does not take lightly any action that isn't in its own best interests).
Although Bilby isn't a bad person, he has been hardened by the Syndicate. At one point he briefly tortures and then kills a treacherous merchant who had intentionally sold him defective disrupters—using, ironically, the very disrupters that had been in question. Although Bilby's vindictiveness is frightening, it doesn't seem inherent. He's just a man doing what he has to in order to survive his life in the Syndicate.
Underneath it all he's a family man, using his Syndicate salary to support his distant wife and children. "Family. It's the most important thing," Bilby tells O'Brien on more than one occasion. Bilby takes an instant liking to O'Brien; he finds O'Brien trustworthy and practical, with just the skills he needs. And there's something about O'Brien he feels is just right; Bilby undoubtedly sees a great deal of himself in the man. Bilby invites O'Brien into the Syndicate. From this point the show is about two characters putting trust in systems where fate plays a bigger part than individual actions.
Bilby is played by the wonderfully engaging actor Nick Tate. Observant Trek followers may remember Tate as the hard-headed captain who gave Captain Picard and Wesley Crusher transportation in his junky ship way back in TNG's fourth-season episode, "Final Mission." But his role here is by far more impressive. Indeed, Tate's turn as Bilby gives Meaney a run for his money in the race for most credible everyman.
This seems like two actors' destiny. The two characters are perfect foils for one other, and the acting is wonderful work. Meaney is good as always, as O'Brien finds himself stuck in a place where his gut feelings tell him to judge Bilby based on the man's intentions rather than merely the questionable actions Bibly's career leads him to carry out. Meanwhile, O'Brien tries to keep in touch with the reality of his mission, and is reminded on a few occasions by his Starfleet Intelligence contact Chadwick (Michael Harney) just why he is on this planet: to investigate, not to sympathize.
Tate's down-to-earth portrayal paints Bilby as aspiring to greater things in the Syndicate. He brings a realistic sense of normalcy to his situation, skillfully drawing an engaging personality in a role that requires it if we're to have an emotional stake in O'Brien's problem.
The details of the plot are not all that important, and if there's a drawback to "Honor Among Thieves," it's that the plot tries a little too hard to be "relevant" to the current DS9 storylines. It turns out the Orion Syndicate is in bed with the Dominion, which supposedly "explains a great deal of things," as Chadwick notes. The Vorta named Gelnon (Leland Crooke) who showed up in last week's "One Little Ship" makes another appearance here to order Bilby and his minions to assassinate a Klingon ambassador. (The assassination is intended to look like an inside job, thereby causing dissension among the Klingons that could help the Dominion's side of the war effort.) I find it a little implausible that the Dominion would recruit such a lowly member of the Syndicate to carry out such an important mission (whether he's expendable or not). I also thought Gelnon's long exposition on his Master Plan was a little too rigged for the audience's benefit. And especially considering O'Brien apparently wasn't going to be part of the plan anyway, it seems downright stupid for Gelnon to reveal something of such importance so openly.
But like I said, the plot is not that crucial, and for much of the way the episode is aware of that fact and keeps the dramatic emphasis on Bilby and O'Brien. Throughout the episode runs a sense of subtle, ongoing suspense, because every time Bilby asks O'Brien a question, we have to see how O'Brien will respond, and whether Bilby will be able to catch him in a lie. The pressure of the situation keeps the encounters interesting. But I was more impressed with the growing chemistry between the two characters and how Bilby's need to have a friend who could identify with his plight caused his own clouded judgment and eventual downfall. The idea of Bilby "witnessing" for O'Brien is of particular interest. It's obvious that "witnessing" for another isn't something Bilby takes lightly (indeed, none of the Orions do; if O'Brien screws up, Bilby is just as accountable). But the truth is that Bilby respects O'Brien, and O'Brien's dilemma is that he begins respecting Bilby—who is really just a family man like himself.
The way the plot plays out is out of O'Brien's hands, as Chadwick and the larger powers control the game from above. Starfleet warns the Klingons of the attack, which guarantees the assassins will be slaughtered. Infuriated by Starfleet's lies (they told him they would build a case against Bilby and arrest him) O'Brien finally decides to tell Bilby the whole story of what has been happening, who he really is, and what the Klingons know. Bilby is understandably stunned and saddened ("You were too good to be true," he says solemnly), but the new information doesn't change anything because it's already too late. He can't turn himself in because the Syndicate would make an example of his failure by killing him and then going after his family. Instead, Bilby chooses to save his family by going through with the mission, aware that he will be killed.
The ending is an understated tragedy that proves very effective. Just about everything in "Honor Among Thieves" is accomplished with dialog and acting, and the final scene between Bilby and O'Brien is an example of how we don't need to see a character's eventual death to understand the tragedy of it. I was moved by Bilby's final question—asking if O'Brien has a family back where he really comes from. When O'Brien answers yes, Bilby chuckles with a sense of reassurance that's almost heartbreaking. Here are two people who valued many of the same things in life, especially that "most important thing"—yet at the end it comes down to the sad truth that Bilby exits his world early simply because his way of life had paved out his destiny. It makes one wonder who Bilby could've been if he had enlisted in Starfleet rather than the Orion Syndicate.
Ultimately, what "Honor Among Thieves" turns out to be is an intriguing character study packaged in a small, mostly inconsequential episode. The material alone isn't standout, but the presentation most definitely is, so I don't think this show should be overlooked. The plot does a reasonably good job of staying out of the way, skillfully getting its characters from A to B, and along the way we get some wonderful characterizations.
If you were hoping to learn anything about the Orion Syndicate, you're not going to find it here. But that's not really the point. "Honor Among Thieves" intends to be drama in the most general of senses. And it's good drama. We'll call it three stars—but a high three stars.
Next week: A secret mission, Jem'Hadar, and likely death. Dax and Worf's honeymoon at last?
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65 comments on this post
Sat, Apr 4, 2009, 11:45pm (UTC -5)
Thu, Nov 19, 2009, 4:04am (UTC -5)
This would have been a great time for the Dominion to invade. The station’s shields would have suddenly gone down, and the phasers would have fizzled out.
Sun, Jun 27, 2010, 12:09pm (UTC -5)
Mon, Aug 16, 2010, 12:13am (UTC -5)
Granted, the script and the limitations of episode length don't give the two actors much to work with, but I feel a better effort in dialogue and acting could have produced something more worthwhile for the viewer.
My biggest criticism is how relationship/bond between the two characters of Bilby & O'Brien is portrayed: I just didn't buy it! In large because of the short period of time over which it develops: it just seems too easy for Bilby to "witness" for O'Brien after knowing him for such a short period of time (despite his usefulness to the syndicate). And with that bond so weak in my mind, I found ever harder to buy Bilby reacting to selflessly in the final scene, choosing to walk into certain death rather than than a) kill O'Brien for having lied to him b) face the music with his superior.
Mon, Sep 26, 2011, 6:49pm (UTC -5)
Wed, Dec 28, 2011, 2:25pm (UTC -5)
It's probably way less than even a month.
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 11:31pm (UTC -5)
The only thing that worked for me is its exploration of loyalty, which is a big theme in all of DS9. And it is hard to let someone, even a criminal, die, once you have befriended that person. This is why you send Garak and not OBrien into these situations. It is mad to send in OBrien - he does not have the character for it.
Fri, Apr 20, 2012, 11:46pm (UTC -5)
Thu, May 10, 2012, 1:32am (UTC -5)
Fri, May 11, 2012, 9:36pm (UTC -5)
But overall it was great entertainment.
3 1/2 Stars from me.
Mon, May 14, 2012, 8:24pm (UTC -5)
Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 12:12pm (UTC -5)
Fri, Jul 13, 2012, 12:17am (UTC -5)
P.S. Nick Tate is also best remembered as Eagle pilot Alan Carter from Space: 1999. They should have held this episode back until next year and named the cat Maya...
Sat, Sep 8, 2012, 8:54pm (UTC -5)
This episode is not a bad version of Donnie Brasco, it's psychologically realistic, and it realistically portrays the life of a gang member. Bilby became close to O'Brien when O'Brien passed his "honesty test" and O'Brien became close to Bilby when he realized he was a nice guy who happened to have a job as a gangster. When Bilby killed that one guy, he was able to give sufficient justification and Miles probably figured he was a gunrunner who deserved to die, so none of Bilby's actions would have prevented them from being close. Everyone is born good, to be in a gang and killing ppl is a gradual process, and it starts with tolerating / being ok with certain things. Miles was going through that process, and it began when he realized Bilby was an honest, fair, good person. The same way Bilby justified killing the arms dealer is similar to how Miles justified killing the ppl he's killed.
God, this episode was so realistic in so many ways, but so many ppl are too dumb to recognize it. Like someone wrote a comment about Bilby allowing himself to be killed, and that guy was obviously dumb and paid no attention to the show.
To the reviewer: the Vorta told Miles about the plan becuz in a gang you're either accepted or you're waiting to go though a rite of passage to be accepted, like Bilby witnessing for Miles (being blessed in) or proving yourself (being jumped in). Once you're in, you're family and you can be trusted with everything (something the vorta expressed concern over). And also, the vorta didn't arrange anything with Bilby, he met with top members of the syndicate and they chose to give the job to Bilby. There was nothing wrong with the plot. In fact, they used the seemingly predictable Star Trek "ok, i guess this'll be about how O'Brien finds the informer" to enhance the plot.
I always thought this episode was incredibly well written and did a superb job at showing ppl what it's like to be in a gang; it really sucks that so many weren't able to fully understand it, becuz it's right up there with In the Pale Moonlight.
Thu, Oct 4, 2012, 6:45am (UTC -5)
But it's obvious why they chose O'Brien for the part. I thought that worked fine on both dramatic and logical fronts.
Some of the other choices, however, didn't work. Why is the weedy guy not a 'witnessed' man and O'Brien is? Why does the Vorta reveal himself at all? And why does O'Brien confront Bilby with the truth?
In these cases the answer is forced drama with logic taking a back seat.
Overall this episode feels like nerds writing about crime figures. Which is what it is. Could be worse. Could be nerds writing about relationships.
Thu, Oct 4, 2012, 7:49am (UTC -5)
Tue, Jan 1, 2013, 1:50am (UTC -5)
Wed, Feb 6, 2013, 1:44pm (UTC -5)
Fri, Mar 29, 2013, 10:25pm (UTC -5)
Everyone seems to agree that O'brian was chosen as the 'everyman' but remember that he's also the soldier; and I don't mean just in the sense of being in Starlfeet. He fought in the Cardassian war and he did things he later felt were wrong because he was in a fight for his life. I think that's why he can sympathize with Bilby. He's also killed people, so he can't hold it against Bilby to do whatever it takes to survive.
"There, but for the grace of god, go I." seems like a nice summation. Change the circumstances of their lives but a little, and O'brian could be Bilby, or Bilby could be O'brian; and they both know it. I believe that's why O'brian knew that Bilby wouldn't kill him.
Thu, Aug 22, 2013, 4:09am (UTC -5)
OBrien assumes that Bilby will not harm him? Or is he risking his life and don't concern about his wife and kids for a criminal (who is going to assassinate)? Bilby says that he doesn't like to be betrayed. Didn't OBrien just do that?
I liked the episode right until the moment OBrien objected to inform Klingons about the assassination plan. What was his suggestion, I didn't know.
Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 9:33pm (UTC -5)
Sun, Mar 30, 2014, 7:35am (UTC -5)
Sun, Mar 30, 2014, 10:47am (UTC -5)
Tue, Apr 1, 2014, 1:12pm (UTC -5)
O'brien does his duty and lives to see another day, but Bilby knowingly walks to his own death. Gripping stuff
Tue, Apr 1, 2014, 3:16pm (UTC -5)
"Yeah it was weird that O'brien was selected but the guy has to do something besides arguing with his wife and fixing stuff."
After the first season or two, O'Brien is ALWAYS doing other stuff. Whether it's being wrongly accused by the Cardassians to being in a time loop to being captured by the Jem Hadar with Bashir to having 20 years worth of prison memories embedded to being trapped on a DS9 lookalike with a crazy Garak ...
I could go on. Your criticism here doesn't make a ton of sense.
Mon, Apr 7, 2014, 4:48pm (UTC -5)
Personally I love O'Brien episodes, although they do usually involve something bad happening to him.
Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 8:06am (UTC -5)
I usually skip this one, because it really means nothing in the big picture and once you've seen it once it takes the bite out of what impact the episode did have.
I can't go above average for this one. 2.5 stars.
Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 2:24am (UTC -5)
The ep itself was great. Obrien should have taken spent some quality time with girl bilby got him. Kieko would have understood it's part of his job. Is always wanted obrien and Keiko to divorce so obrien could find someone nice anyways
Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 11:04am (UTC -5)
O'Brien fought the Cardassians for years (on Stelik III and elsewhere). It stands to reason he already had a ton of experience with Cardassian computers.
Besides, the systems might be different, but at the end of the day, DS9 doesn't have a warp core or engines: controlling airlocks, Federation weaponry, and life support systems doesn't sound THAT horribly complicated for a guy like O'Brien.
Wed, Sep 3, 2014, 6:54pm (UTC -5)
Plot was cliche.
Matte paintings of grungy alien world were cool. Lots of smoke effects, channeling Blade Runner. ;)
Sun, Sep 28, 2014, 8:10pm (UTC -5)
Wed, Oct 1, 2014, 8:44pm (UTC -5)
Bilby's reason for trusting O'Brien makes the whole episode seem silly. And no, Bilby admitting that he's too trusting doesn't excuse the rushed pace of the relationship. Mistakes in judgement under duress is one thing when we know the character and what he or she is about. We know nothing about Bilby, so he just comes off as wearing the idiot hat.
It is mighty difficult to sell a story like this in 40 minutes (less, even, considering the obligatory fit-the-whole-cast-into-each-show scene with everyone complaining to Kira about broken equipment). I don't begrudge the producers for TRYING, but they have to know by now that the stories need to fit the format.
This one just barely gets 2 stars from me. It's at least watchable, I guess.
Tue, Jan 6, 2015, 1:31pm (UTC -5)
Tue, Jun 9, 2015, 4:59pm (UTC -5)
Thank you. The plot is all over the place. Trek writers seem to be utterly incapable of allowing cut-throat murderers and criminals get justice if that justice is death. If the punishment is death, they'll actually protect the murderer and betray their own people. It's ridiculous to watch Miles save these guys (allied to a genocidal army) simply because they might die. BOO HOO. Where is the sympathy for all the people these "poor" folks have knocked off?
Mon, Aug 3, 2015, 1:10pm (UTC -5)
Did anyone else pick out Orange is the New Black's Healey as Chadwick?
Sat, Nov 28, 2015, 5:29pm (UTC -5)
But when I see O'Brien and Bilby onscreen together, it doesn't matter so much. Their performances are strong enough to carry the entire thing. Yanks is right; in this case, good acting holds together a shaky story and make it an enjoyable hour of Trek. Still, I hope more is made of the Dominion/Orion connection to give this episode more long-term relevance.
Fri, Feb 5, 2016, 1:27pm (UTC -5)
This also reminded me a little of Far Beyond The Stars, insofar as it didn't really feel like a DS9 episode. A couple of good performances don't save it. 1.5 stars.
Tue, Feb 16, 2016, 8:10am (UTC -5)
I think that what the episode is gesturing toward is that Bilby is uncomfortable with the life he has chosen in some respects, and his gravitating toward O'Brien is partly because of O'Brien's goodness and (apparent) loyalty; even if turned out it was a lie, the idea that O'Brien would lie to Bilby to protect him for "stealing" the Klingon disruptor induction coils shocks and delights Bilby because it comes from a different moral universe than the people he lives with. Bilby likes O'Brien because he values that kind of goodness, even if he has let go of it in himself; and O'Brien feels kinship with Bilby because he recognizes that love of goodness and loyalty and altruism in Bilby even though in practice Bilby is a stone cold killer. That almost works at times, but overall I find it underdeveloped.
To be clear, I am not exactly saying that O'Brien shouldn't have some sympathy for Bilby. O'Brien's sympathies tend to be smaller-scale and personal, and so it makes sense that with enough time he would imprint on Bilby, though I don't feel like enough time really passed for the level of loyalty to develop between the two men, from either side. But I feel like there is a lack of complexity in O'Brien's response to Bilby -- like the entire conflict is Miles' personal affection versus his duty, rather than duty on the one hand and a mixture of affection and disgust on the other. There's also the fact that O'Brien helping Bilby really does mean Bilby becomes better at hurting people -- does O'Brien feel like blood is on his hands for the man whom Bilby shot dead for faulty disruptor rifle equipment?
In order to set up O'Brien going rogue and punching out his Intelligence contact, they also make the Intelligence contact hard-headed and inconsistent, going from "no you can't go home until you find out about the Dominion" to "I was about to take you off this mission because you're too close" with seemingly no intermediate meetings. His unwillingness to listen to talk to Miles about whether there are any alternatives to letting the Klingons kill Bilby also smacks of contrivance; if arresting Bilby or letting the Klingons arrest him both prevent the assassination, what *is* the difference? Isn't just letting Bilby et al. walk into the assassination trap and have the Klingons stop them the least interesting way to deal with this information -- tell the Klingons, absolutely, but shouldn't Starfleet Intelligence and the Klingons now work on gaining access to the Vorta rather than just let this assassination attempt pass by and thus expose that the Orion Syndicate's cover is blown? (Obviously -- they should stop the assassination attempt; but they could probably find a cleverer way to avoid the assassination, or at least consider it, which would not endanger the delicate "in" they have.)
And, I dunno, Bilby seems awfully zen about walking to death; that he would die for his family makes sense to me, but his reaction to O'Brien's betrayal does seem pretty understated, on the whole. The Syndicate is also a pretty bad organization if its incentive structure really is that you automatically die if you witness for someone who turns out to be a spy so that it's far better to go through with a doomed plan and get everyone killed and have a plot exposed rather than just bring the traitor in; surely the Syndicate would prefer it if Bilby said "I was wrong about this guy -- but here, they now know about the Klingons and we have to stop it!" to his trusting O'Brien unto him and a bunch of others dying in a trap -- they might even kill Bilby still, but I feel like they are actually less likely to take it out on his family if Bilby saves them from a trap than if he apparently walked into one out of stupidity.
I do agree that the acting is good and some scenes work -- but I think this is a 2 star show for me.
Fri, Apr 22, 2016, 2:19pm (UTC -5)
Sun, May 29, 2016, 12:19am (UTC -5)
The main problems are two-fold. First, this isn't exactly the most original of stories, is it? An undercover agent tries to infiltrate an organized crime syndicate. Hm, I think I've seen this somewhere else before. Said agent begins to grow fond of his target and has trouble dealing with the consequences of his assignment. Yeah, definitely seen this before. It's almost as if the writers just stuffed the script full of mob movie cliches. Second, I just don't have that much sympathy for Bilby. Sure, he has his charms, but so does Dukat. Oh, he really loves his family? Well, so what? The man is a cold-blooded killer who literally killed a man in front of O'Brien and was planning on carrying out a cold-blooded political assassination. You can talk all you want about how his life has forced him to do these things, but at the end of the day he still chose to live this way. In other words, he chose the thug life; the thug life did not chose him. The fact that he's a loving family man really pales in comparison to the fact that he's a stone-cold, unrepentant killer, doesn't it? I do feel somewhat sorry for his family (do they even know what he does for a living? - the episode leaves that fairly vague). That is, until next season's "Prodigal Daughter" comes along and destroys any sympathy I had for them. As a result, the only new character I have any sympathy left for is.... Chester. That's right - the cat!
Still, like most "Deep Space Nine" episodes, the acting saves what is otherwise a lackluster outing. Everyone involved delivers a very enjoyable performance. Even Nick Tate (Bilby) delivers a nicely understated performance - I may not care for the character, but I will admit that the actor did a fine job. Colm Meaney delivers his usual top-notch work - there really should have been more O'Brien focused stories, though preferably ones that don't always involve torturing him in some way. I also somewhat enjoyed the basic plot of the Dominion using the Orion Syndicate to further their goals. It seems like something the Dominion would do - working from behind the scenes to influence the course of events.
It could have been a lot worse, and in the hands of a lessor lead actor undoubtedly would have been, but it's not a complete waste.
Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 4:51pm (UTC -5)
Sun, Apr 2, 2017, 6:00am (UTC -5)
Also, why is a highly valuable engineer non-com being sent on Star Fleet intelligence missions?
Fri, May 19, 2017, 11:00pm (UTC -5)
2. If the Dominion is so keen on keeping knowledge of their involvement out of it, how about not having the Vorta show up with Reimus?
Stupid premise. Someone in the writers' room had an old screenplay lying around and stuck miles in there and made it a Trek episode. At least they knew better than to use Brooks.
Sat, Jul 1, 2017, 10:34am (UTC -5)
My 1 mln dollar question is: WHY THE HELL? Is him retarded? Why a 24ther earthling should live a so risky life to help (economically) his (earthling) family?
Vash was annoyed by Daystrom's and Federation's standards, and searchs for pure archaeological adventure, breaking some rules. Is passion, and I can understand... I can also understand people (earthlings) of Turkana-4, fond of their homeworld, even if it is a half-destroyed town on a unhabited planet. But Bilby and his wife? Why? It seems that Bilby dislikes this life, so... WHY? A personal holodeck for porn tales? A personal Galaxy starship? A moon nearby Gaila's one? Is him a latinum's collector (as for stamps)?
Uhm... Wouldn't be easier this?
*LIAM: Honey, New Sidney despite its "Federal" name is only a sort of Trill/Ferengi polluted mining colony. Shall we go back Earth and do whatever we want, without any economics/health/welfare problem for the eternity?
*MORICA: Of course, New Sydney sucks! And Starfleet is far better than NSPD. Let's go away from this crappy stone!
Resolved! OMG... I always thing that 24ther Earthlings, sometimes, are too stupid to understand how lucky they are. They want to suffer! "Omg, how stupid is this ambassador, and how bothersome is this admiral!" So... LEAVE - THE - FLEET - AND - CULTIVATE - SOME - VINEYARD - ON - EARTH! DUMB! In the morning you work in Labarre (France), in the afternoon you can go by the sea with your wife in Cancún (Mexico), in the evening you can see a moving desert sunset in Faya Largeau (Chad)... And next week: RISA! Nope, Orion Syndicate on Farius Prime! Cuz Farius has badassic suspended monorails!
I'm getting more and more convinced than the smartest man on the whole Federation is ROBERT PICARD (not the doctor, Jean-Luc's "strange-lips" brother). And also the luckiest: just take a look to this 60er redneck with a "lip's parkinson" and... Take a look to his wife! Is Marie "unknown surname" Picard blind? Or maybe she shares the strange partner tastes of Lwaxana and Janeway. Maybe.
Or this episode is another allegory: Humans like to suffer more than Klingons.
PS: I know thar Robert died on that "flight", but this confirms my theory. The day he decided to give Starfleet a possibility (for his son, ok) the luck ENDS. Immediatly! With the ONLY fire control accident on Earth in CENTURIES (apart that one caused by Q to that Q+Human couple).
R.I.P. Robert Picard, the only Federal person who really understand how to live in the 24th century: no bothersome head offices, no maphia, no money, no diseases. A ground to hoe, a wine to get drunk and make a funny brawl with your brother. Injured in the brawl cuz you're 60 y.o.? Don't worry: just 8 seconds of tricorder and u can get as a teenager :-D
Sat, Aug 19, 2017, 5:47pm (UTC -5)
Loved the alien planet from the architecture to the VFX to the sets
Billy was a great character. I could see how Miles could bind with him.
Loved the twist Dominion tied to Orion Syndicate and the Klingon rifles
Liked seeing the Vorta from One Little Ship again
Very tragic episode. Thumbs up
Thu, Nov 2, 2017, 8:06pm (UTC -5)
Yes, the plot is nothing special and one has to question why O'Brien is chosen for this mission and why Bilby is chosen to kill the Klingon ambassador and why the Vorta speaks so openly of the plan. Anyhow, these are small details that can be overlooked for what is ultimately the pretty poignant story of Bilby and how O'Brien gives himself up in the end to try to help Bilby.
Bilby was wonderfully acted -- can't say enough about this. It was just so natural how he treasured his family, his cat (who is now with O'Brien), and his situation in the Orion syndicate. And his relationship with O'Brien doesn't feel forced or anything heavy-handed. He goes tragically to his death, realizing he's already effectively been dead for some time working in the syndicate. That was portrayed excellently.
Meaney is the best actor of the DS9 cast -- he has "his" episodes and they are so well acted as the everyday man being put in difficult situations.
Trek has done a number of these undercover spying/shady character/underground resistance movement stories but none come across as well acted as this one. Even the Orion syndicate guy struck the right tone of being one who you believe would kill a low-ranking syndicate member for screwing up. You could see how Bilby didn't trust as much his other partners and it just worked well with O'Brien.
3.5 stars for "Honor Among Thieves" -- a very underrated episode, I think. Very realistic situation, no fancy technobabble, just good character acting. The backdrop is interesting as well with the Orion syndicate in bed with the Dominion. Great guest actor for Bilby made this episode work -- too many times a decent Trek story has been undermined by a wooden guest actor -- but not here. A really good hour of Trek -- hard to go wrong with O'Brien the main cast member as focal point.
Tue, Nov 28, 2017, 11:47pm (UTC -5)
I liked this one, but wouldn't go out of my way to watch it again. Sort of like when you see a good movie, but once you see the end, you're done with it.
I was able do suspend disbelief enough to figure O'Brien had been there for a bit. Bilby mentioned how he'd seen him around for the past few weeks, and I figure there was some other time compression, regardless of the stardates.
I sort of liked the other two baddies. The one reminded me of a Klingon from TOS. Now that would have been a neat story, a Klingon exiled because he was one of the few remaining ones that looked too human.
Yes, the Orion Syndicate would be an organization the Dominion might use. Then, when they ruled the Alpha quadrant, they would have been among the first to be obliterated (whether they reminded a Vorta of the Jem-Hadar or not). I think a Founder would listen to how they had helped them, nodded, then said "Destroy them", because they would ultimately be uncontrollable.
O'BRIEN: There's a Klingon Ambassador here? Gowron mustn't like him too much.
They did such a good job of making this planet look like a backwater that no-one wanted to be on, it left me wondering why there would be a Klingon Ambassador here? Farius? It just didn't seem that important of a place to need one. Is it part of the Federation, or is it non-aligned? It just seemed it was on-par with the Planet of Galactic Peace, and any Ambassador stationed here wouldn't be nearly important enough to be a game-changer, no matter who killed him. And Bilby, being on this backwater (and somewhat low on the chain of command), just happened to know where the Starfleet source had been previously stationed?
As much as I liked the episode, that was in the back of my brain, telling me this was an important story set on an unimportant planet, and that made my brain hurt...
Your mileage may vary... RT
Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 3:16am (UTC -5)
Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 8:30pm (UTC -5)
Slow and boring sentimental slop, unrealistic story. Miles' behavior was way out of line, and stupid.
Chadwick's not going to put it all in his report? Why wouldn't he?
Below average ep. Not very bottom of the pile, but bottom fourth.
Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 4:37am (UTC -5)
Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 6:00pm (UTC -5)
Part of that is due to an extremely unlikely 'mark' in Bilby. Although he's managed to make his way up to a midlevel guy in the Syndicate, it seems a bit farfetched how polite, friendly and personable he is to O'Brien. He doesn't have the cutthroat edge I'd expect from someone in that position.
They try to build him as a tough guy when O'Brien doesn't want to tell him where he got the parts, but too little of that is present, and when he shoots the guy who sold him the bad disrupters, but the fact that O'Brien states at the end that he knew Bilby wouldn't kill him... that's the problem. Someone in that organization who wouldn't kill his double-crosser... who has literally led him to certain death and possibly put his family at risk... doesn't seem likely to be the kind of guy who would certainly leave O'Brien alone and just sulk as he does. Where's the temper?
I am willing to look past that though for the sake of the story.
One thing that does bother me though is when they decide one of Bilby's other associates is a double-crosser and kill him. "Good thing you never witnessed for him".
These were two of Bilby's longtime underlings. He quickly witnesses for O'Brien - to prove he's ok to be there. How did these other two get into Bilby's circle without someone witnessing? Is there really no consequence to Bilby from this? Seems very odd - maybe someone else in the Syndicate had already witnessed for this guy. I dunno. I would have thought Bilby would have some liability as the guy's superior in any event...
Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:36am (UTC -5)
DS9 has dabbled with film noir stylings a few times, especially when doing flashbacks to when DS9 was still Terek Noir.
Here though, it just doesn't work for me. The whole gangster plot is distinctly pedestrian and O'Brien does not make for a convincing undercover agent, even putting aside the fact that he has no training or experience to be put in such a position.
And the dilemma Miles goes through is a bit too predictable. In some ways, it's a reflection of the issues I generally have with Quark's position on DS9; he's heavily involved with illegal activities - and in this case, murder - but it's somehow ok because he's a nice guy.
Sorry. That plot's been done to death.
Mon, May 18, 2020, 12:57am (UTC -5)
He is one of those actors who truly understands what "less is more" means and uses it to great effect. Understsatement meets his clear passion for acting and is especially showcased in this episode. Character shows like this really make up the other part of ds9 that isn't the dominion war arc.
Fri, May 29, 2020, 8:56pm (UTC -5)
I am honestly surprised the Vorta didn't recognise O'Brien, you'd think the Dominion would have profiles on DS9's senior staff, no?
Fri, May 29, 2020, 9:41pm (UTC -5)
"I honestly don't understand why they would ask the Chief of Operations of Deep Space 9, which is the most important station in the quadrant, to do an undercover assignment. You're telling me no one from the Orion Syndicate has been to DS9?"
Because O'Brien must be tortured? It's like a tradition, man.
"I am honestly surprised the Vorta didn't recognise O'Brien, you'd think the Dominion would have profiles on DS9's senior staff, no?"
Maybe the Vorta did recognize him and was enjoying watching O'Brien's seasonal flogging?
Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 10:25pm (UTC -5)
Agree wholeheartedly. There's a reason Meaney still, to this day, has more film offers than he has time for; he's an actor's actor. I can't blame DS9 for wanting to show him off. Like Empok Nor, this was more of a psychological study of O'Brien than anything else.
Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 12:24am (UTC -5)
I'm done with this stuff. This is simply not Star Trek, not science fiction. I have forgiven much of DS9, but this paint by numbers genre informant plot is just ridiculous - despite the great acting.
Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 3:05am (UTC -5)
Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 3:54pm (UTC -5)
He could have been surgically altered to be human, so we'd have gotten Andrew Robinson sans makeup.
Sun, Mar 7, 2021, 7:17am (UTC -5)
On the other end, I did not know Nick Tate had an episode in TNG, so thanks for that hint.
The years gone by ... If I weren't informed before, I probably would not have recognized N.T. here. But he still has his smile.
Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 2:03pm (UTC -5)
But the episode to me remains a whole big meeeh , Colm Meany acts the part sure, but it seems almost '' too easy'' , the relationship between Bibbly and O'Brian is almost too convenient. Perhaps the episode could of been better if right off the bat it's established to the viewer O'Brien has earned their trust.
Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 6:13pm (UTC -5)
Fri, Sep 23, 2022, 2:53pm (UTC -5)
One massive plot hole: Don't they have Google reverse-image search in the 24th century? There's no way anyone's anonymous 300 years from now; I don't care how well Starfleet intel scrubbed the contemporary equivalent of the Internet. I find it highly implausible that there's no "dark web" the crime syndicate would have resorted to and/or a mole in Starfleet, etc. Even today, an officer on, say, a U.S. flagship aircraft carrier endeavoring to infiltrate a criminal enterprise would be rumbled within minutes.
I also find it implausible that Smiley would have been shocked by the consigliere shooting dead that fence. He's seen more than his fair share of suffering and wanton killings.
Another thing: If I was involved with the Mob or such, and some new guy came out of nowhere and insinuated himself into the confidence of the organization, I'd be tailing him 24/7, bugging his place, hacking into his comms, etc. No way would Smiley have been able to meet up with his handler without us knowing about it. Amateur hour!
I can overlook all that though. Where it all falls apart is the final act, where Smiley gets upset that his buddy in crime would get killed in the course of trying to assassinate the Klingon ambassador. I don't see him getting so emotionally involved that after just, what, a few days or maybe couple weeks he would have lost all perspective like that, as his handler put it.
In the end, he does the stupidest thing of all: Relieve his own guilty conscience while burdening his "friend" in his last moments of his life. What a total douchebag, Smiley is.
Mon, Nov 14, 2022, 5:07pm (UTC -5)
Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 7:36pm (UTC -5)
Yes he fixed the inter face chip that goes in the hacker thiefs neck, some sort of bio wi fi connector, and the "Klingon disruptors". It sure is lucky for him that the script did not get to particular with the type, beings no.doubt there as as many Kingon.disruptors as human guns...but no matter.
It does make it appear that yes the target was Billby, or else how could Starfleet Spies be so.perfectly prepared with Miles being selected. So we know Bilby was sad he was not even the target, but it appears he was their number one source of information.
So as noted the jammer review, yes the acting is great, and the story feels tense because we empathise with.Billby, because we like Miles, and by extension have an appreciation of his protecting of Miles. He is a mursering man, a sinful.man, who sees himself as a ln.honest man. Does an honest man by his nature get into.a dishonest line of work and somehow remain unblemished?
If an organization is dishonest and apparently sinful, it surely would mean we question the morals of the secretary simply because of whom that person works for. So yes, Miles did loose his perspective here when he turned.His bopping of his CO to warn a murderer weapons smuggler was a fooliah risk. He may have been.conning him about his.family. But it is again perhaps another failure of Fleet Intelligence selecting Miles for this mission.
Its important to keep in mind that while Billby likes Miles he is.using him, he is honest, within the scope of how much does that help him. It is sad that Billby has such morless folk around him, but such is his life he chose. Its also odd he is so big on family, while working a dishonest job, and murders people.
As I am not a fan of ganster films, nor modern crime programs, the evil is a turn off, I reckon fans of that type of show could see this coming a mile away. What's refreshing about this and what makes it somewhat tragic, is Billby is likeable, but this where we need to keep his choice to kil, and consequences of dealing arms in mind. I would have preferred to see him arrested and gine to trial, but I suppose I follow Miles logic for.letting him go. But why did not Miles get in So much trouble for letting him go? Never mind the boppng of his co.
Overall a fun romp, emotional, and well.acted. 3 point 15 popcorns of 5.
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