Star Trek: Deep Space Nine


3.5 stars

Air date: 2/13/1995
Written by David S. Cohen and Martin A. Winer
Directed by Les Landau

Review by Jamahl Epsicokhan

"Where you see a sword of stars, I see a comet. Where you see vipers, I see three scientists. And where you see the Emissary, I see a Starfleet officer." — Sisko to Kira

It's a credit to the writers that despite the literally hundreds of stories on TNG and DS9 (and now Voyager) that have been aired over the last eight years, they can still come up with compelling, original ideas. "Destiny" is such a story, with a very clever script and very interesting dialogue, exhibiting some effective philosophical content alongside the best of "In the Hands of the Prophets."

In the midst of the first joint Bajoran/Cardassian cooperative mission—the installation of a communications relay outside the wormhole—Bajoran Vedek Yarka (Erick Avari) visits the station to inform Sisko of an ancient prophecy about the Emissary that is a warning of impending disaster—directly linked to this mission. The prophecy is a convolution of metaphors, but these metaphors come together to provide a seemingly striking message involving a number of distinctive elements.

Paraphrasing the prophecy: Three vipers will return to their nest in the sky in an attempt to peer through the temple gates. A sword of stars will appear in the heavens, and as a result, the temple will burn and will never open or close again.

Yarka argues that the "vipers" are the Cardassian scientists who are heading up the project. The "nest in the sky" is, of course, the station and "peering through the temple gates" is the attempt to communicate through the wormhole with the transceiver relay. He doesn't offer an explanation for the "sword of stars" but predicts that the temple burning, never to open or close again, can only be the disastrous destruction and permanent collapse of the wormhole.

This gives Sisko some rather weighty decisions to make. There is no foreseeable reason why this experiment should cause any sort of problem, let alone something as disastrous as Yarka claims. Should Sisko continue procedures as if he never heard the prophecy text or should he take it into consideration?

The episode's story structure is quite effective. As the narrative unfolds, every act culminates with some sort of unexpected surprise that makes the prophecy seem that much closer to coming true. Just when it appears Sisko is clear from any more problems, something comes up just in time to send us into commercial break.

For example, initially, there are only two Cardassians heading up the project, not three. Then there's the announcement that a third Cardassian will be joining the project. Kira's apprehension starts up, but neither she nor Sisko can see what could possibly go wrong because of this coincidence.

Then there's the appearance of a comet—is it the sword of stars? Kira's apprehension jumps up three notches. The comet has a course that puts it near the wormhole entrance, but not close enough to interfere with the project, let alone cause any disaster. Kira makes a passing remark about the prophecy within earshot of the Cardassians, prompting Sisko to request a private discussion with his first officer. The comment has no place on the bridge of the Defiant, he tells her. She agrees, but she also believes the prophecy is coming true based on the number of "coincidences."

This is the heart of "Destiny." It's a crossing of Kira's faith and her duty. How can she just ignore something she has believed her entire life? Kira reveals to Sisko her ongoing difficulty to see him as simply her commanding officer and not the religious icon he has become in Bajoran lore. At the same time, Sisko is put in the difficult position of being part of the prophecy. He's never been comfortable with the label of Emissary, and this episode is really the first to deeply look at how Sisko feels about it.

However, Sisko realizes he can't call the project off based on a retranslated prophecy that could be interpreted to mean any number of things.

But imagine everyone's surprise when a random variable in the communication test sequence causes the comet's course to be altered such that it heads straight for the wormhole. By this time, I'm thinking Kira's "concrete" justification for calling off the project makes a lot of sense. Sisko sits down and thinks the situation through very carefully. Dax asks him what he would do if he never heard of the prophecy. Continue with the project, he says. There's no reason at all why O'Brien's plan to destroy the comet with modified phasers should fail.

But then it does fail. The Defiant's phasers overload and fail to destroy the comet. With the comet headed directly for the mouth of the wormhole and the crew without phasers to destroy it, a disaster seems imminent. Maybe Yarka was right.

But the effectiveness of "Destiny" practically rides on whether the conclusion can live up to the rest of it. A contrived, last-minute solution to completely disprove the prophecy could have seriously sabotaged this show. Fortunately, the writers know how to finish a good story with a good ending, and they offer a satisfying conclusion that doesn't sell the episode short in any way.

Sisko and Kira manage to pilot the comet through the wormhole with a subspace field around it to prevent it from igniting the wormhole. They are almost successful. The wormhole does end up ignited by small amounts of comet fragments—just enough so the prophecy comes true. But the damage is only minor, and the wormhole doesn't collapse. It simply remains "cracked" open just enough to allow the communication transmission through, never to completely close again.

It's a very clever ending, as Yarka's misinterpretation of the prophecy proves ironic. At the same time, by having the prophecy still actually come true, the writers affirm that religion and Bajoran beliefs still remain characteristic of the series. They also prove that it's quite possible to do a story that isn't derivative. Kudos to this rather cerebral outing.

Previous episode: Heart of Stone
Next episode: Prophet Motive

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45 comments on this review

Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 8:02pm (UTC -5)
I'm surprised no one else has commented on this episode. I enjoyed it a lot and I thought the ending was very cleverly crafted to allow the prophecy to be true. I also enjoyed the scenes with Colm Meaney and Tracy Scoggins who despite a couple of pounds of Cardassian makeup can still be attractive.
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 9:40pm (UTC -5)
Watched this again last night and it's always been a favourite. In the constant tension between science and faith that is always being explored in DS9 (and later BSG), this is the episode that got the balance exactly right- it could have been science, could have been a prophecy. Two sides of the same coin. Very well done.
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 5:09pm (UTC -5)
I too watched this episode again and admired the way in which tension is sustained until the end. Excellent!
Mon, Dec 13, 2010, 11:21pm (UTC -5)
Could someone do me the favour of explaining why giving credence to the Bajorans' religion is automatically for the good? Here's another sabotage of the Roddenberry Universe...what is the message the writers are sending by designing an episode to essentially say that indeed, the prophets bestow knowledge of the future to Bajoran Vediics. Okay, well if that's the case, then explain it in those terms damn it. Have someone point out that the "prophecy" may very well be true because the wormhole aliens can literally see into our future because they're unbounded by time (which makes absolutely no sense, but whatever). Fine, it make sense, explains everything and maintains that the Bajorans' religion is silly, because it is. Rather, we get this idea that the issue is about duty and work in opposition to faith--it's manipulative and arrogant. 1 star.
Sat, Mar 5, 2011, 9:38pm (UTC -5)
The thing about prophecies is that most of the time they are so vague that even if you believe in them, you can never be certan that you're interpreting them correctly. A lot of prophcies in human history (such as Nostradamus) HAVE come true if you interpret them in a certain way. You cna choose to believe that Nostradamus really did somehow know what would happen in the future, or you can believe that any prophecy's interpretation can be modified to fit with actual events. My personal views would tend towards the latter, but I'm glad this episode showed both sides of the coin.
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 5:05am (UTC -5)
Nah...whats worse is that most of the human race doesnt understand how prophecy works.... or how to interpret it.... Saying that, I respect this episode for being balanced, i like this one
Sun, Jun 24, 2012, 7:45pm (UTC -5)
Just watched it, regarding the last line... did they work the finale to fit that or was it planned all along? It works!
Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 1:16am (UTC -5)
This is a great episode. Nic nailed everything about people misunderstanding and intepret prophecies different throughout history. This episode did a great job about using the bajoran prophecy in a realistic way.
N robinson
Wed, Aug 1, 2012, 9:57pm (UTC -5)
has anyone else noticed the Vedics final quotation of the fourth prophecy about the emissary

"The Emissary will face a fiery trial and will be forced to choose......"

Does this forshadow his eventual fate??

Nick R

Wed, Sep 26, 2012, 10:08am (UTC -5)
Elliott, the line you're looking for about the wormhole aliens relationship with time *is* in the episode.

The Bajorans interpret everything about the wormhole aliens in 'religious' terms... but there's no need for anyone else to.
Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 2:19pm (UTC -5)

You missed my point. The Bajorans base the veracity of their religion on the quasi-magical abilities of the Prophets. If the Prophets' actions can be explained scientifically, the Bajoran religion should collapse and fall apart. Their belief system is akin to those Christians and Jews and Muslims and Hindus and whoever else makes the claim that their religion is "right" because it "explains" an aspect of the Universe which is entirely in the realm of the rational world. Let me be clear: not EVERY aspect of the Universe can be explained by science and there is certainly room for faith and belief, but not when it comes to those things which are plainly explicable by our reason!

These thoughts scream at me during an episode like this which is all about whether or not the "magical" part of religion is verifiable (which it isn't). That the question is never put to the fire is a huge disappointment and cements my distain for this series' take on religious matters as well as my flabbergast at the ability of other to either look past it or laud it.
Thu, Jul 4, 2013, 5:24am (UTC -5)
Elliot, what you are saying is nonsensical. I know you ALWAYS have an axe to grind with DS9 but there's absolutely nothing silly or irrational about the Bajoran religion within the context of DS9, because within that context the Prophets are established to be real. You may prefer to call them wormhole aliens, as I do, but they are clearly a "higher power" with an interest in Bajor. There's therefore nothing irrational about the Bajorans acknowledging the existence of the Prophets or even choosing to worship them, as the Prophets are invested enough in Bajor's existence and spiritual lives to wipe out an entire Dominion fleet and send Orbs, among other things. I'm an atheist, so I understand that you are clearly offended by the religious overtones, but comparing the Bajorans to Christians or Muslims is incorrect. The Prophets are provably real. God / Allah is not. If God were provably real, there would be nothing irrational about worshiping him / her / it. But even as I write this, I know your post isn't about rational debate, it's about shoving your opinion out there again and again. So, read this, know that you are being silly and just try to show a little more restraint in the future, because your little rants are all over this site.
Thu, Jul 4, 2013, 11:07am (UTC -5)

"...there's absolutely nothing silly or irrational about the Bajoran religion within the context of DS9, because within that context the Prophets are established to be real...If God were provably real, there would be nothing irrational about worshiping him / her / it."

You state that the verisimilitude of a deity is the sole factor in determining the rationality of a religion. So the practices, beliefs and customs of a religious group bear no scrutiny--they are either rational if the deity exists or irrational if it does not? This seems very immoral to me. If the Prophets happened to be the sort of Old Testament-style deities which demanded Bajor take revenge upon its enemies, would you hold the same opinion of them? If, by religious conviction, Bajorans sought to exterminate the Cardassians, would you not "have an axe to grind" with this show?

Besides all that, if it is simply a rational choice for Bajorans to worship the Prophets (a silly name for the aliens, when you think about it) given their history and interaction with the aliens, then it ought to be a rational choice for anyone. Modern religions diffuse the "my God for my People" issue by claiming God(s) to be omniscient and having influence over all people, not just one tribe. Modern atheists also have a troubling tendency to placate the credulous and shield them from due criticism, as though their beliefs are so fragile and delicate they couldn't otherwise survive (which is insulting as much to religious people as to atheists).

You are not incorrect when you claim that the Bajorans' religion and modern Christianity or Islam cannot be compared because of the nature of their deities, which is exactly why the comparison in the show is so frustrating. When the specifics of the religion aren't discussed, the Bajorans are depicted as modern egalitarian democratic people...but their religion is actively the sort of backwater dessert nonsense which should be setting off alarm bells to the humans, at least.

It's an old and ultimately ineffective tactic to try and dismiss your combatant's argument in a debate by labelling something other than "debate" ("rant" in your case), but since we're offering advice: I would say, rather than analysing what you think the psychology of my arguments are, try focusing on the substance.
Thu, Jul 4, 2013, 1:30pm (UTC -5)
I think I actually agree with Elliott. Not about this being a 1-star episode, but its wishy-washiness reduces it to a 2.5 for me.

As Jammer said of Voyager's "Sacred Ground" the following year: "It wants to be a commentary, yet it still doesn't take any real stance on religion or science. It tries to have it both ways, by bringing up a question and then avoiding it... Yet it also walks a fine line around the issue so carefully that it ends up saying surprisingly little—and that is a flaw." Now, "Destiny" at least is less boring than "Sacred Ground" (although Janeway's personal drama is much more profound than any in this episode; even Sisko's ecstasy in "Rapture" was explained away as neurotransmitters) and it engages with the spiritual vs material debate throughout. But there's something missing.

The elephant being ignored is, I think, that although the Prophets' prophecies are objectively true, their interpretation is subjective (as discussed in the episode) and therefore the prophecies are as useless as any other metaphorical mumbo-jumbo. Granted, this wouldn't lead every Bajoran to the conclusion that prophecies are nonsense because they only make sense retrospectively, as Nic said about Nostradamus. Some, as Keiren pointed out, would take comfort in the objective truth of prophecies, even though their ambiguous wording makes them useless for guiding actions (as Dax says, pretend you never heard it). To me, the latter view is less correct than the former, and the episode's refusal to say so -- instead ending with "We were both right" -- is its biggest weakness.
Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 6:55pm (UTC -5)

Pretty good episode considering it dealt with Bajoran religious mumbo jumbo.

Fri, Nov 22, 2013, 11:05am (UTC -5)
This is one of my favorites of the whole series, and perhaps the best exposition of Bajoran religion and Sisko's role as prophet, still within a reasonable framework.

Loved the vipers, loved the rogue vedik, loved Kira's exposition of her true feelings about Sisko as emissary and the conflict they cause, loved it all. Also, Dax wasn't as objectionable here as usual, especially in her chat with the Cardies.

As far as the religious debate, well, the prophets are beings outside time, why couldn't they share their knowledge through "prophecy"? For me it doesn't weaken the "Roddenberry universe" at all, as the prophets do exist as beings.

For me the true message of this episode is not science vs. religion, but Kira's conflicting roles as faithful Bajoran and second officer on a station, which it does present very well.

Fri, Nov 22, 2013, 11:29am (UTC -5)
Oops, should be "Sisko's role as emissary," not prophet, in the first paragraph.

But I'll take advantage of this correction to say that O'Brien's romance with one of the vipers was also enjoyable.

Fri, Feb 21, 2014, 6:57pm (UTC -5)
I agree that this episode is more about Kira's struggles and how any prophecy can be translated to whatever circumstances one deems fit. I never really viewed this ep as "science vs religion" or at least it wasn't the main crux of the story anyhow.

Really their shouldn't be a "vs" to begin with. Religion is a concept completely man-made and any and all stories connected to any one of them have no basis in fact. Just because someone makes up an idea of god(s) doesn't all of a sudden mean its true. This universe has gone on for billions of years before our "ideas" and will survive just fine billions of years after us and our "ideas" are gone. Science is about experimenting and learning about how things work basically. It is not a philosophy nor is it a belief system and it most definitely is not a "flip side of a coin" to a belief system. We don't have modern conveniences and the ability to explore our solar system or even the explanation of how the sun comes up because we "believed" in them.

That being said, and as I've stated in another post, stories that involve religion into them don't bother me when done well. Fact is, is that there IS religion in real life therefore it makes sense to utilize it in fiction just like anything else in life. The knowledge that the Bajoran gods (Prophets, not a name any more silly than some real life names for deities) are a bit more tangible in a sense (sending orbs, the wormhole, etc) is probably what makes some of them hold on to there faith that much more. Yes there's scientific explanations for all of it but it would make much less dramatic sense for all Bajorans to suddenly "stop believing". A lot of them went through horrible times and it's the faith that helped them get through it. Is the faith correct? No. Do I wish people took less stock in religion in general and instead worked together to try to make our planet a better place? Yes. Does that mean religion should not be a storytelling device? No.

All in all as far as this ep is concerned it is well-written, adeptly executed, and adds more to the bigger picture of what's to come.

3.5 stars.
Fri, Apr 18, 2014, 7:34am (UTC -5)
A big treat seeing Wendy Robie, one of my favourite Twin Peaks alumni. Almost unrecognisable without the eye patch.
Sun, Jun 22, 2014, 11:03pm (UTC -5)
I thought the main plot was fine, even interesting. But the subplot with the Cardassians was so stupid. I hate it when Star Trek creates perfectly good alien races and then tries to show that "they're just like us." The idea that a Cardassian wouldn't like any Cardassian cuisine? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And the Cardassian scientist throwing herself at O'Brien? Just make it stop. Humans would be just as ugly to alien races as they are to us. And the idea that the scientists would suddenly out someone as a spy and saboteur, but that's okay because they'll be protected by their superiors? Sorry, that goes against everything we know about Cardassian society and government.
Fri, Aug 1, 2014, 12:21pm (UTC -5)
This episode is DS9's way of slamming religion without slamming it. The prophecy was true without being true. It all depends on your viewpoint; which is as much true for the religious as the militant atheists in practice.

Brilliantly conceived and executed episode.

I enjoy this one each time I watch it.

3.5 stars for me.
Sun, Aug 3, 2014, 2:40am (UTC -5)
Elliott, they did indeed explain it. Sisko said exactly what you wanted the episode to say: that a man thousands of years ago saw this particular event in history because the prophets showed it to him through the orbs. Yet he had no idea what it meant since it was way beyond his technological level, so he wrote it down in his own terms.

The episode isn't validating the religion at all. It's saying that the religion exists because of the prophets showing people these things and them writing it down as prophecy. The episode itself isn't saying the religion is valid because of it. At least, I didn't interpret it that way.

Besides, the Bajoran religion isn't really much of a religion when the gods clearly exist and clearly do hand out scenes from the future to be written as prophecy. At that point it's very much so a matter of science because we can observe these entities. Although that said, no one knew the wormhole or the aliens in it existed until the first episode so there's that.

The show itself never really took a stand on whether or not it validated the Bajoran religion. At the very least they might have said they liked the idea of faith itself, but to be honest I never got that impression myself.

It's interesting to compare this religion with the Dominion faith in the founders. As you were talking about, what if the prophets were Christian/Muslim style gods that wanted the Bajorans to wipe out the Cardassians altogether? This is much what we see with the Dominion. Although the Dominion gods are obviously real, the belief in them as gods was programmed into their DNA. If anything, this is a very clear DS9 indictment against religion, as opposed to the treatment of the Bajoran religion, in that we see the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta have blind faith in their gods which does indeed cause them to do horrible things.

As for myself, I'm a huge DS9 fan, of course, but I don't know about the religious episodes myself that directly involve the prophets. They seemed too fantasy to me. Although that said, I did really enjoy the Dukat/Winn story arc that ended the religious themes on the show. Not necessarily the climax in the caves, but the build up to that was quite good.
Mon, Sep 1, 2014, 7:52pm (UTC -5)
In the first episode of the series Sisko has to explain time to the wormhole aliens. The same time in which the bajorans live. This should have been a huge topic of discussion. How are the aliens seen as gods of the bajorans if they need a human to explain the time in which the bajorans exist. And what does God even mean to the bajorans? Today the major religions believe in a God that created everything. People believe Gods can not be destroyed. Yet bajorans know that the wormhole aliens can be killed using technology. Kira has been upset a couple times when plans were being made that could harm the aliens. Ds9 talked about the wormhole aliens a lot but nobody ever asked Kira about the fact that their Gods can be killed. Worf also talks about klingon Gods being killed. So logic would say that bajorans don't think the aliens created the universe because they don't even understand the universe in which the bajorans live. This is why Sisko is the weakest captain. No other captain would be fooled into doing whatever the aliens wanted. I wish we could have gotten a scene where Quark tells Kira how the aliens evolved the Nagus and how Quark met with the prophets and explained profit. I don't think they could show that scene because Kira would have to question her whole faith with a plot that dumb.
Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 6:46pm (UTC -5)
Brilliantly conceived and executed episode.

Once again, have to disagree. Its whole premise is stolen from Babylon 5 again (The prophecies from Valen and the Vorlons), Except B5 did it much better, and over a proper arc.

Ignoring that, it's a decent episode, but also as the above poster notes, produced questions that the writers deliberately didn't try to answer because they couldn't.
Wed, Feb 11, 2015, 7:05am (UTC -5)
The one aspect of DS9 that I liked continually is the fact they had religion. This is the part that resembles real life. People have their gods. We cannot travel to the stars, at least not yet, and we don't have shapeshifters, etc., but we have our religions. Now, the way they portray it here is a little odd, but I can relate to the Bajorans.
Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 9:28am (UTC -5)
A good episode but it felt weird for the usually open-minded Dax to be so dismissive of the prophecy, there it felt like the writers were just using the trope that the scientific are cold or hostile to religious ideas.
William B
Sat, Sep 26, 2015, 11:15am (UTC -5)
1. What is life like in a world where there are *accurate* prophesies? Prophesies that are genuine gateways into future events, not statements which happen to be right on occasion? Some theists believe that we exist in such a world, and so can supply an answer -- "look around you." Atheists, myself included (well, I am more broadly agnostic, but I am skeptical of any human theism so let's start with that), would not. Regardless, part of the problem with *prophesy* either in our actual world or in fiction is that they are tricky business -- they rely on interpretation, usually, which means that something can "come true" but in a very different way than the way the prophesy had been interpreted. So, okay, this has implications beyond prophesy, to all religious texts -- how do we interpret moral instruction that was written centuries or millennia ago and then translated multiple times, in a time in which human abilities and geography and the state of the world was considerably different? People cannot agree on what an individual holy text means. And this extends beyond religion to any human endeavour. Communication is hard, especially when through the veil of time.

In this episode, it's noteworthy that not only the religious but also the scientific predictions were wrong, though not entirely -- the scientific projection that communication through the wormhole would be possible was correct, but because of the comet rather than in spite of it; the religious prophesy was correct though its meaning was the opposite of what the Vedek believed. I am not saying that science and religion are comparable; most religious people tend to believe, too, that they represent different ways of knowing, different spheres of study. But this episode has some kind of a caution against being too certain of how one "reads the signs." Cause and effect are not necessarily as closely related as one might believe. It is only after communication is established that the full scientific and theological understanding, both, is conveyed.

It's a bit of a weird "message" -- whatever you do, you might not understand until after you've acted what you have just accomplished, so, uh, just do whatever, I guess. Sisko chose to follow his rationalist, scientific impulses, but the attempt to deflect the comet did end up significantly altering the wormhole rather than leaving it alone, so, basically, most of what Sisko accomplished in this episode was accidental. Accidents happen, and it is important to be humbled by the recognition that we cannot predict the outcomes of events. And I am in favour of praising humility.

2. Of course, the other message here is not "sometimes, things turn out differently than you had intended, and you can only understand what had just happened after the fact," and a suggestion of humility. The other element is that Sisko becomes both humbled and emboldened to believe that he *is* the Emissary, because through no wish of his own he acted out a vaguely worded prophesy about the Emissary and the wormhole. Sisko is uncomfortable with being the Emissary, and ends the episode much more comfortable with it, even though in the intervening time mostly everything he did had the opposite (proximate) effect. That means he must be blessed! Okay. That the Vedek's predictions of events were completely wrong, and the prophesy was only "useful" after the fact, once the wormhole's open communications were accomplished, should maybe be a signal to be wary of other Emissary prophesies, especially as interpreted by this Vedek. But in any case, Sisko wants to hear more, which is understandable at the very least because of intellectual curiosity, and the implication is that this event has turned him *somewhat* more, if not totally, into a believer that he has a divine role. It is a weird thing to think of: Sisko's believing that he is quasi-messiah is both diminishing of his own individuality and ability to make choices, and extreme self-aggrandizement. Maybe they are both the same thing.

It is nice to explore, *finally*, what Sisko's Messianic status means for Kira. Frankly, I can't think of a single incident in the first two and a half seasons which suggested that Kira did regard Sisko with awe at all, even if she, as she claims here, kept it locked down in work mode. So I find the discussion here, with Kira indicating that she has always believed that Sisko is the Emissary, a little difficult to swallow -- but then, I also can see how compartmentalization is bound to be not just a general tactic for people, but one especially for Kira, who had to kill people for freedom for years and then shift straight into a law-abiding/enforcing officer, as well as maintain her pious respect for all life with her hatred of her oppressors, etc. I am ultimately glad to see this out in the open, given that it's a part of the show, and I do think that the Kira/Sisko scenes were generally effective.

Still, while on this topic: the Bajoran religion is nothing like Earth religions -- except to a degree the quasi-religious despotic regimes that elevate Pharaoh or Stalin or Mao to God-King -- in that they *genuinely have an opportunity to talk to their Gods, right now*. Hey, could Sisko try asking the Prophets whether they actually did tell that Vedek back in the day about the three vipers, and if so, were the vipers Cardassians? Ask politely to borrow an Orb (or is that one Opaka gave him still on the station? I forget) and go in. The Wormhole Aliens might not respond, but it is worth a try. And of course, *ZEK* thinks of this in *literally the next episode*. The episode depends on divine prophesy given to Vedeks hundreds of years ago and treats it as equally nonverifiable (and, relatedly, nonfalsifiable) as Earth religious prophesies, but there is the wormhole right there -- you know, where they are trying to set up communications? That they know it is possible that the WAs communicated with a Vedek in their nonlinear way means that the prophesy is not just theological, but scientific/historical data, whose validity they can attempt to ascertain by going straight to the horse's mouth. But they don't, because this episode is on the confused side.

3. This is also an episode about Bajoran/Cardassian relations (and Federation/Cardassian), which fortunately gives the idea more weight than "Life Support" did. I like how the Obsidian Order's disruptive influence is a constant thread this season. I also really enjoyed the subplot with O'Brien, and the idea of Cardassian society having a particular kind of sexism that men are weak in STEM fields, which eschews the simplistic matriarchy concept from "Angel One" or "Sanctuary" and replaces it with a pretty interesting and believable kind of sexism which is more about order than anything else -- it is convenient to have strongly delineated roles for military (men) and science and tech (women) in a civilization that relies so heavily on order. And the flirting was cute. Some of the episode is really "should we trust the Cardassians," and the answer is, sort of -- the *actual scientists* were trustworthy, but the Obsidian Order is always there, and the forces in Cardassia that this represents are hard to distinguish from the friendlier side. I am not quite sure if I understood the Obsidian Order agent's plan. Given that the wormhole is of such huge strategic importance, would she really sabotage this thing solely to trash the Bajoran/Cardassian peace treaty? Either the Obsidian Order wants more wormhole access or would want to shut it off; I can't imagine them having any real investment in the B/C treaty in comparison to the wormhole's broader importance. Especially since we know they are already massing their fleet (from "Defiant")....

Anyway, I think the episode is fairly exciting and interesting, but the ideas are difficult to get a handle on because of the weirdness at the centre of the Bajoran religion -- that it is based on actual beings, who could at least potentially be contacted -- so that the implicit comparisons this episode makes with Earth religions remain frustrating pretty much throughout. I still like the episode somewhat though...but yeah, I think I'll say 2.5 stars (I could go to 3).
William B
Sun, Sep 27, 2015, 9:27pm (UTC -5)
I talked about it a bit, but I want to emphasize that there is something defeatist/destinyist in this show. No matter what Sisko et al. do, they cannot stop what is coming from happening, at least not as long as they believe in science. However, their belief in science ends up making the prophesy come true, which turns out to be a good thing (since the prophesy had been misinterpreted). That the original plan to get the wormhole communications relay set up probably wouldn't have worked is also somewhat implied, since it is only the selithium (sp?) in the comet that allows the wormhole to be permanently "open" and to let communication through. It is *very* much a "the Prophets work in mysterious ways" ending, which seems to suggest that a series of unlikely events came together to carry out what the Prophets foretold (through the orbs I guess) or even *caused* to happen through their will; this is what makes Sisko start to be a man of faith at the end.

Actually, this is not unique to this episode; in many ways, "Cause and Effect" and "Time's Arrow," while very...secular, also suggest something like fate operating (the glass that keeps breaking in "CaE," the way in which a series of unlikely events come to a head for Data...). "Time's Arrow" actually is very close to this episode, with the crew trying to avoid Data's death and yet bringing it about, but the literal satisfaction of the "Data dies" prediction does not necessarily work out as badly for him as it had to -- he survives, after all, even if his head does get severed and remain underground. The difference is that this uncanny and unsettling experience, which I think is something of an update of various myths featuring prophesies which come true in the attempt to defy them (ala Oedipus Rex or whatever), really is left in a separate category from religion, whereas "Destiny" very obviously puts this in a religious context. strange, because yes human religions are non-verifiable (and thus non-falsifiable). But within the context of this episode it mostly sort of works.

Anyway, I think I will go to 3 stars. I really enjoy the episode as a show, find its pacing and characterization generally strong. It is hard to quite get a handle on the show's religious dimension though, because of systematic elements of the show that I am uncomfortable with.
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 9:14pm (UTC -5)
Lol... I find it amusing that some people seem to desperately desire that Star Trek somehow more firmly "take sides" in real life when it comes to spirituality/religion versus secularism/science. As if there is any need or pragmatic reason why they should. Keep dreaming...
Diamond Dave
Thu, Nov 26, 2015, 3:58pm (UTC -5)
One of those episodes that has its cake and eats it in the discussion of the ancient prophecy. But nevertheless it does neatly skewer Sisko's avoidance of the Emissary question when Odo asks points out his agenda. And while Kira might believe the prophecy because of her faith, she also provides a cogent scientific reason that the Prophets/wormhole aliens might have foreseen events given they exist outside of time and communicated that. But at the end it was all a misunderstanding, and actually it wasn't a prophecy of doom but one of glad tidings and just as well we got all that sorted out for the good then. Seems like a bit of a cop out.

It was also good to see some interplay with Cardassians who are not military dictators, just for a change. 3 stars.
Wed, Mar 16, 2016, 7:59pm (UTC -5)
Just like "In the Hands of the Prophets", "Destiny" actually treats religious people with respect and doesn't just paint them as dogmatic idiots or simple-minded buffoons. Take, for example, Vedek Yarka. He's committed to his faith and his interpretation of Trakor's prophecy. However, when it's revealed that his interpretation was incorrect he doesn't act foolishly. He instead is presented as someone who is perfectly willing to admit his mistakes and own up to his prejudices. Also take for example Kira and her "Starfleet" explanation of how the prophecy is legitimate. Everything she says in that scene is completely rational, completely sensible and completely logical, so much so that even Sisko (who is determined to be the detached non-religious Starfleet officer) can't just easily dismiss it. Compare this treatment to the way religion is presented in TNG: "Devil's Due" and the differences are shocking.

And therein lays "Destiny's" greatest strength - almost all sides and characters are given equal shrift. The only noticeable exception is Dax, who gives a truly asinine argument to Sisko which isn't even challenged (she basically wants him to ignore the prophecy because you can't let inconvenient pieces of data get in your way?) (given that they're dealing with aliens that exist outside of time, that seems remarkably stupid!) (given also that just two scenes previous Sisko calls the Cardassians on the carpet for ignoring inconvenient pieces of data and Dax looks even worse). Still, everyone else is given a chance to make their case for or against the prophecy without judgements or condemnations. On top of that there's the amazing scene between Sisko and Odo where the writers fully admit that even detached Starfleet types can be influenced by their agendas and beliefs. A lot of times atheists and other secularists like to act like they alone see the world as it truly is, that only they are capable of viewing things impartially. The truth is that everyone, religious and non-religious alike, is influenced by their agendas and it's really nice to see Trek finally admitting that.

Also enjoyable is that the writers are finally getting back to examining Sisko's role as the Emissary, which (if I'm not mistaken) hasn't been that much of a focus since the first episode. Why they waited this long to get back to this rather crucial part of the tapestry is beyond me. But, it is nice to see Sisko taking his first steps towards his eventual embrace of Bajoran faith and his role within it. Having Sisko spend most of the episode doing everything he can to avoid the matter but ending up being interested in hearing about other prophecies is a nice touch. And just an aside - Trakor's Fourth Prophecy says that the Emissary will face a fiery trial and be forced to choose something? You might want to pay attention to that one, Sisko. Just saying. :-P

In the B-plot we get some fairly decent comedic bits involving O'Brien and a sexy Cardassian scientist played by Captain Lochley from "Babylon 5". Not much to say here other than that it's pleasant and enjoyable for what it is - especially the scene where Lochley thinks O'Brien wants to impregnate her.

WTF HAIR - 21 (+4)

Wed, Apr 20, 2016, 9:02am (UTC -5)
Good episode - sadly the writers couldn't help but inject their silly leftism into it. The whole "Women dominate the sciences" nonsense.
Wed, Apr 20, 2016, 9:04am (UTC -5)
Although, as I noted above - it wasn't executed too well, and it is stolen from B5.
Wed, Apr 20, 2016, 10:21am (UTC -5)
The women dominate the sciences isn't a leftist idea. It's just showing that Cardassians have gender roles that are atypical for humans
Wed, Apr 20, 2016, 1:00pm (UTC -5)
I'm about as conservative as they come on this site and I don't think it was a leftist message either. It was just something to make the Cardassians appear actually alien.
Thu, Apr 21, 2016, 9:01am (UTC -5)
@ dlpb
Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 6:46pm (UTC -5)

Brilliantly conceived and executed episode.

Once again, have to disagree. Its whole premise is stolen from Babylon 5 again (The prophecies from Valen and the Vorlons), Except B5 did it much better, and over a proper arc.

Ignoring that, it's a decent episode, but also as the above poster notes, produced questions that the writers deliberately didn't try to answer because they couldn't.

... and they did it well. That's all the really matters in the end. There is nothing new in TV/Movies, it's all a rehash/reinvention/reinterpretation of something that has come before.
Fri, May 13, 2016, 8:23pm (UTC -5)
I'm about as conservative as they come on this site and I don't think it was a leftist message either. It was just something to make the Cardassians appear actually alien.

lol. Really? You think the writers weren't trying to make some daft connection with the real human world in this episode? Come, now. Get real.
Tue, May 17, 2016, 6:49pm (UTC -5)
I love how potato-faced Irish handyman O'Brien gets all the exotic girls — Keiko, the crazy-murderer Bajoran engineer, and now Gilora the Trekkie-nerd-fantasy Cardassian scientist! Awesome. She really is stunning (why are Cardassian women so attractive? This is getting weird...). "I could provide you with many healthy children, but frankly I think you're getting ahead of yourself." Haha! Has Cardassian-Human fertility even been attempted? We've seen a couple Cardassian-Bajoran hybrids.

That "comet" was way too small! They should have made it a few kilometres wide to be more convincing. The Defiant could have just sat in front of the wormhole and blocked those tiny pieces.

But I really like how it ended. Nice episode.

I also echo how odd it is that they writers set up Sisko to be the Emissary in the pilot without doing anything with that fact for more than two years! The later seasons really developed this thread into what it was meant to be. Were they really just allowing the mundane DS9 universe to be formed for two seasons, knowing they would get around to Sisko-as-Emissary? Amazing gamble! Thankfully it paid off. ENT never got the chance to really come into its own; dutifully, in its 4th season, ENT became good, just like TNG and DS9 and VOY. But then ENT was canceled. Such a shame. The writers on all the series really took for granted that they would last for a multi-year run. BSG never needed that kind of buffer. RDM certainly raised the bar for Sci-Fi. Hopefully the new Trek TV series coming out in January will compare with the best of the TNG-era shows, plus the power of BSG or the fun of Firefly.
Sat, Mar 11, 2017, 1:16pm (UTC -5)
@Quarkissnyder: Humans would be just as ugly to alien races as they are to us.


I beg to differ, I found most of the Cardassian men very handsome, even with all that makeup, the grey skin, the snaking long necks and scales. I think it's something about how the reptilian design brings out their masculinity, especially in those broad shouldered uniforms. The DS9 Cardassian regulars were very easy on the eyes and improved with each viewing (Dukat, Damar and Garak), and some of the minor ones were real hunks. Glinn Tajor and Vornar come to mind. I believe the guy playing Tajor even turned to a career in adult films. I can think of lots of other attractive alien species too. One obvious example would be Spock from Vulcan (half human, but he still counts).

As for attractive Cardassian women, I thought Gilora was very cute, but Natima Lang gets my vote for being far and away the best looking Cardassian woman. Why is it that Quark always gets the stunners?!
Sun, Mar 12, 2017, 9:37pm (UTC -5)
What Vii said about Cardassian males. Among other things, I love the way their uniforms come to a peak in the center of their chest. I don't know what's under there or why that slays my girlish heart so much, but there you have it.

Among female aliens: I find the Vulcans most attractive. Maybe that's just my taste for androgyny. YMMV.

On a related topic: I can't figure out why Wesley Crusher's GF on "The Game" is so widely adored (see the comments on that episode). I'm not a hater; I agree she's cute, but a million actresses are cute. I'm curious what her special appeal is. Off the top of my head, I'd give higher marks to Sonya Gomez, Minuet, Picard's wife Aline, the "Perfect Mate" metamorph, Vash, the Vulcan girl at Wes's Starfleet entrance exam, and probably a hundred others.
Mon, Mar 13, 2017, 10:25am (UTC -5)

"On a related topic: I can't figure out why Wesley Crusher's GF on "The Game" is so widely adored"

This was Judd's "break-out" role which led to her appearing in many other TV shows and movies in the 90s (and 00s). It's funny to see her as some one-off character in a geeky sci-fi show.
Fri, Mar 31, 2017, 2:21pm (UTC -5)
I like science and fiction so when artists decided to mold those two things into one I said"sign me up".
Tue, Apr 18, 2017, 12:11am (UTC -5)
@Tara, no prob. I appreciate your posts very much as well.

Yes, I love those pointy thingies on their chest armour! Boy am I glad that they decided to ditch those ugly clunky outfits and shudderingly hideous helmets worn by Gul Macet in TNG.

Vulcan women are attractive, for sure. I thought Sakonna was incredibly good looking in 'The Maquis.' Not to mention T'Pol, of course.

I liked Judd as Lefler. I think it had something to do with how.. wholesome she seemed? And the Perfect Mate metamorph was Famke Jansen of Jean Grey Xmen fame, LOL. I think Vash is incredibly attractive too.
Tue, Aug 1, 2017, 10:17pm (UTC -5)
3 stars. Good solid hour. I preferred Civil Defense and Visionary more for this type of episode this season. And probably by no coincidence all were freelanced scripts

The Defrocked vedek was interesting piece.
Possibly trying to Scuttle Bajoran Cardassisn treaty interesting and sensible element to incorporate
The Imagery from the prophecy such as three vipers returning to nest neat!
Bajoran/ cardassian treaty put to good use
Didn't care for subplot obrien female Cardassisn but did like her standing up for him so as not to take fall for phaser malfunction. I also liked their final scene at end thumbs up. Their earlier scenes would have been more interesting and better if dropped the romantic misunderstanding angle and bonded over their shared technical wizardry
Smart to establish a relay to communicate between station and gamma quadrant thumbs up
Enjoyed teaser and quark seeing cardassians making a return to station as a boon for business
Continue Liking idea of rules of acquisition which adds realistic flare to Ferengi
Good Sisko- Kira scene on Defiant and Her attempt to sway sisko to end mission by appealing to a more grounded explanation for the prophecy
Thu, May 3, 2018, 8:02pm (UTC -5)
Enjoyable episode -- having a prophecy involved (however it's interpreted) and seeing things coming true and forcing the characters to question themselves makes for a quality show. Having the Bajoran religious background along with memories of the Cardassian occupation provides plenty of fertile ground to build on.

Kira is particularly interesting here as her Bajoran beliefs take over as the prophecy starts unfolding whereas Sisko even starts to question himself. For me, the best scene was when he's talking with Odo and the shapeshifter talks about all humans having agendas. I didn't think Sisko had any agenda but perhaps he did about the Emissary role. Have to wonder how this show changes Sisko with respect to the Emissary role going forward.

The part with the comet heading toward the wormhole after the first test of the transceiver is something we can tolerate even if it may be arbitrary/farfetched. But what I thought was clever was the 3rd Cardy being from the Obsidian Order sabotaging O'Brien's phaser modifications and the the shuttle then guiding the 3 comet fragments through the wormhole (being the 3 vipers), thus fulfilling the prophecy. So there's maybe a bit of a stretch here but it's not ridiculous.

Aside from fulfilling the prophecy bit, there were some interesting character moments here where we can get more texture to the Cardies and their interactions with other races. The O'Brien cross-cultural misunderstanding was funny -- but it shed light on the female Cardies dominating the sciences (and that the sciences report to the military) and their bizarre courtship. Also thought the first scene when the 2 Cardy scientists meet Kira that there's an uneasy tension bordering on suspicion but Kira, I think, shows great restraint in acting professionally. It was a well-played scene.

I also wonder, just leaving the transceiver array in the GQ, surely the Dominion will do something with it -- it can't just stay there unnoticed.

Solid 3 stars for "Destiny" -- lots of good character interactions here that are lasting and impactful I feel. It's not a perfect episode as there are some seemingly arbitrary happenings, but it had a some good tension and suspicion surrounding the Cardassians. Nice how the prophecy winds up holding true and that it was just misinterpreted -- surprised that at the end of the episode Sisko even gives that Vedic a second of his time. A good episode to focus on and move along the Cardassian/Bajoran relationship.

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