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Re: DSC S5: Lagrange Point

@Klanky - I think Tilly meant the two black holes had been out here a very long time, not the tech.

Re: DSC S5: Lagrange Point

I never thought I'd say this about a Star Trek show, ever, but I'm glad this one is ending. What a mess, good grief. Contrivance after contrivance after nonsensical behavior after improperly timed Big Emotional Moment ™.

I've tried so hard to keep an open mind about this show its whole run, but this is just ... Bad TV. The actors, crew and viewers deserve better. Thank God it's ending.

Re: DSC S5: Labyrinths

What a dumb, cartoon "villain". This season, though flashy and beautiful, is really challenging me to keep watching, even with only two episodes left.

Imagine a season that was actually ABOUT The Progenitors, learning about them along the way instead of... whatever this is.

I don't blame any of the actors. This is a vision and writing problem, which has always been Disco's main problem.

Re: DSC S5: Mirrors

Ah, the mid-season filler. I feel badly saying this, but I just didn't care. I want to advance the understanding of the Progenitors' stuff. This pleasant-enough bowl of sawdust ain't that.

Re: DSC S5: Face the Strange

This one's a 3-star for me. I liked the themes and central premise, but it was a little sloppy in the details.

Re: DSC S5: Jinaal

I feel like a lot of you really, REALLY liked Captain Jellico. Take that as you will.

Re: SNW S2: Hegemony

omg a cliffhanger noooooooooo

Re: SNW S2: Subspace Rhapsody

This is absolutely not my cup of tea usually, but I thoroughly enjoyed this. I was worried this sort of format wouldn't work, but given the framing, it really did for me.

Re: SNW S2: Those Old Scientists

This was so much FUN! Four stars.

Re: SNW S2: Charades

I actually really liked this one. It was fun, but also had really great emotional notes of love, friendship, respect, etc.

Also, Vulcan space Karen? I'm in.

Re: SNW S2: Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow

Jesus, what a clunker. This was just bad.

Re: PIC S3: The Last Generation

I enjoyed every second of this, but I will say I'm shocked Wil Wheaton wasn't asked to bring back Wesley for even one scene. He just gained a brother... and a step-father?

But other than that, I'm a very happy fan.

Re: PIC S3: Vox

I've said it before and I'll say it again. No one hates Star Trek more than Star Trek fans.

Re: PIC S3: Surrender

I do wonder now, if Jack was meant to become, forgive me, the Borg King.

Re: PIC S3: Surrender

Okay, this is the first one of the season I found real problems with and did not particularly enjoy.

Re: PIC S3: Imposters

@Booming

"We get it, you can only live in (a) world where everybody shares your opinion about a product."

I *literally* said in my original comment that you all are entitled to your opinion. Literally wrote it. But why watch something you know you will not enjoy, just to post about how much you didn't like it?

Like why?

Re: PIC S3: Imposters

I'm convinced some of you are simply anhedonic. You will never have 1987-1994 again, because it will never BE 1987-1994 again.

I am not the biggest fan of Kurtzman-era Trek, but this season has been one of the most profound course changes in the right direction for a TV show that I think I have ever seen. Is it perfect? No, of course not. But TNG was never perfect either.

If you don't enjoy it (and that's your right, of course), do everyone a favor and stop watching. Your comforting reruns will never let you down, and we don't have to listen to your endless whining and complaining. Everyone wins.

Re: PIC S3: Seventeen Seconds

@Jax

"Apparently nobody told Raffi, or Freecloud."

Freecloud is never mentioned to be a member world of the Federation, and Raffi had a whole life before we meet up with her. She grew up in the Federation golden age we're all very familiar with.

Re: PIC S3: Seventeen Seconds

@Booming

"Racism, slavery, poverty, classism, addiction and untreated depression leading to self harm, including suicide. It's all back, not just somewhere but even on earth."

Let's review these through the lenses of TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT:

Racism: Human prejudice from Captain Archer against Vulcans; Lt. Stiles in "Balance of Terror" against Spock and Vulcans; High-level Starfleet leaders in "The Undiscovered Country" against Klingons

Slavery: Orion slavers and their slave trade were referenced in every one of those series, with later series mentioning it in the same breath as the Orion Syndicate.

Poverty: I'll give you this one, because in a post-scarcity replicator-driven economy, it hasn't really come up much within the Federation itself, but then, we were almost always on a Sstarfleet ship or station, and not really seeing how "normal" Federation citizens lived.

Classism: Admiral Cartwright calling Klingons "the alien trash of the galaxy" in "The Undiscovered Country"; and Federation humans from almost every series on many occasions looking down on their ancestors for their all-too-human foibles and flaws.

Addiction: "The Game" and "Hollow Pursuits" (TNG), both directly affect Starfleet personnel.

Untreated depression leading to self-harm: B'Elanna in Extreme Risk (VOY), and one could argue Picard's assimilation into Locutus that leads directly to the breakdown in First Contact.

As for suicide: One could argue that Quinn in "Death Wish" (VOY) was depressed because he was bored to death and committed suicide to resolve that.

So, I mean almost all of these things existed or were known to the Federation in "classic" Trek.

Re: PIC S3: Seventeen Seconds

@Booming

There is always hope for a better world. If we as people make a mistake, we hopefully learn from it, move on, do better, make new mistakes, learn from them, do better, and on and on...

The Federation is still a tremendous utopia here: material need is gone, hunger, homelessness are still gone. Access to education, and career opportunities are almost entirely available to all.

Only now, we are seeing a bit of the struggle to maintain it in a universe that does not always agree or cooperate. A realistic amount of struggle, in my opinion.

But again, I get it. We want to believe that our world can grow and evolve into something like the Federation where its "all figured out", but it will never all be figured out, because there will always be new things to learn, new experiences, new challenges, new enemies... and we work through them all, just as we always have.

Re: PIC S3: Seventeen Seconds

I swear, no one hates Star Trek more than Star Trek fans. Picard as a show in the first two seasons was an absolute mess, yes, but this is, far and away, so much better in every way.

Legitimate critique is fine, and season 3 certainly is not perfect, but it seems like more than a few of you cannot handle the fact that these characters have aged, made different choices, and the biggest sin of all, have flaws.

I get it. TNG was all about showing that human beings have almost entirely moved beyond so many of our own current human failings. Here was a society that "figured it all out" and treated everyone well, where everyone was given a seat at the table and could thrive.

...But time and experience are not straight lines. There will be golden ages and then they end. Things happen, and people change... life takes you in unexpected directions.

The trial never ends, remember? So, by all means, levy legitimate critique on the writing, lighting, or anything of the sort. But if you're mad that this isn't (effectively) the Enterprise D with everyone in the same place doing the same things having not changed... Maybe just stick to TNG reruns. That's OK too.

Re: PIC S3: Seventeen Seconds

Wow, this might be the best episode of NuTrek, period.

Re: PIC S3: The Next Generation

This. This is what I've wanted from Picard since day one. I'm a very happy fan tonight. I hope this continues.

Re: LD S3: A Mathematically Perfect Redemption

Maybe I'm the eternal optimist, but I found Peanut Hamper's redemption surprisingly touching, until the twist, which just felt cynical and hamfisted.

Kinda ruined the whole episode for me.

Re: ORV S3: Twice in a Lifetime

This was such a punch to the gut, wow. The only part of this that didn't feel 100% true was the ending. I feel like Gordon (or anyone) would be much more upset about literally erasing their family, right or wrong.