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Re: TNG S7: Descent, Part II
Yup like I said, Time's Arrow is far and away a much much much much better story than this dreck.
Yup like I said, Time's Arrow is far and away a much much much much better story than this dreck.
Re: TNG S6: Descent, Part I
I totally agree with Landon. Time's Arrow is far far better, and closer to TBOBW in good than it is close to this in bad. Let's not even talk of Redemption.
TBOBW>>TA>>>>>>>>>>>Descent>>>>Redemption.
I totally agree with Landon. Time's Arrow is far far better, and closer to TBOBW in good than it is close to this in bad. Let's not even talk of Redemption.
TBOBW>>TA>>>>>>>>>>>Descent>>>>Redemption.
Re: TNG S6: Second Chances
I remember watching this decades ago and thinking it was a meh episode. But on rewatch its actually not bad.
But I really like Krog's idea. Will finally gets promoted and Tom takes his place. There would have been so many good stories there. And then in the movies (like the Borg fight) it would have been great to have two Rikers.
I remember watching this decades ago and thinking it was a meh episode. But on rewatch its actually not bad.
But I really like Krog's idea. Will finally gets promoted and Tom takes his place. There would have been so many good stories there. And then in the movies (like the Borg fight) it would have been great to have two Rikers.
Re: TNG S7: The Pegasus
It's not hard to imagine Starfleet agreeing to not use cloaking technology.
It's similar to how the US doesnt want Iran or Iraq to develop nucleur weapons even though the US already has. The Romulans do have superior technology.
It's not hard to imagine Starfleet agreeing to not use cloaking technology.
It's similar to how the US doesnt want Iran or Iraq to develop nucleur weapons even though the US already has. The Romulans do have superior technology.
Re: TNG S6: The Chase
I love this episode! I don't know why, its just cool and enjoyable, even if they never followed up on it.
And RIP to Norman Lloyd indeed. I read that he was married for 75 years to his wife, before her death at 98.
I love this episode! I don't know why, its just cool and enjoyable, even if they never followed up on it.
And RIP to Norman Lloyd indeed. I read that he was married for 75 years to his wife, before her death at 98.
Re: TNG S6: Tapestry
Really enjoyed this episode. But then I always love Q (even though all Q episodes aren't great), especially with Picard.
Really enjoyed this episode. But then I always love Q (even though all Q episodes aren't great), especially with Picard.
Re: TNG S6: Face of the Enemy
I agree with those that say Sirtis did a great job here. Inf fact Every time she has been given a decent script she has done well. The problem has always been that she has been given terrible scripts.
And I love Seymour here (and in other roles).
I agree with those that say Sirtis did a great job here. Inf fact Every time she has been given a decent script she has done well. The problem has always been that she has been given terrible scripts.
And I love Seymour here (and in other roles).
Re: TNG S6: Chain of Command, Part I
Jellico is the character you love to hate. Ronny Cox is a great actor, and really plays Jellico well.
But I agree with the anti-Jellico contingent. He is not a good leader. Being strong doesn't mean demeaning your followers nor demanding unreasonable actions. Riker was correct in the way he behaved, and especially the words he had for Jellico at the end.
The real problem of leadership though is Admiral Nechayev. She unreasonably passed over Riker. I get it for the story reasons, but in universe it doesn't make sense. I would have much rather had Riker off on a separate mission instead of how they did this.
Jellico is the character you love to hate. Ronny Cox is a great actor, and really plays Jellico well.
But I agree with the anti-Jellico contingent. He is not a good leader. Being strong doesn't mean demeaning your followers nor demanding unreasonable actions. Riker was correct in the way he behaved, and especially the words he had for Jellico at the end.
The real problem of leadership though is Admiral Nechayev. She unreasonably passed over Riker. I get it for the story reasons, but in universe it doesn't make sense. I would have much rather had Riker off on a separate mission instead of how they did this.
Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
I remember this film being not that good, and of course hearing about just how terrible it is. However, after watching all the TOS movies, this is underrated and not as bad as its made out to be. I certainly enjoyed it more than STI and STIII. It's not a great move by any means, and has its bad moments, but I enjoyed watching it. It has a decent story at its core, and for the most part doesn't drag on.
I remember this film being not that good, and of course hearing about just how terrible it is. However, after watching all the TOS movies, this is underrated and not as bad as its made out to be. I certainly enjoyed it more than STI and STIII. It's not a great move by any means, and has its bad moments, but I enjoyed watching it. It has a decent story at its core, and for the most part doesn't drag on.
Re: TNG S6: The Quality of Life
An enjoyable episode. Three stars. While Data's move was ridiculous, how it ended was awesome
An enjoyable episode. Three stars. While Data's move was ridiculous, how it ended was awesome
Re: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Oh and the death of Spock was so well done. Just all around great writing and acting for that scene.
Oh and the death of Spock was so well done. Just all around great writing and acting for that scene.
Re: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
I just watched this and was blown away how well it stood up and how tight the whole movie is.
I'm a TNG fan first and foremost but this is my favorite movie.
Khan is such a great villain, but I love Kirk and Spock outsmart him as a TEAM. And they use his arrogance and ignorance on modern actions (IE that ships can really go 3D and the regulations) to defeat him.
I just watched this and was blown away how well it stood up and how tight the whole movie is.
I'm a TNG fan first and foremost but this is my favorite movie.
Khan is such a great villain, but I love Kirk and Spock outsmart him as a TEAM. And they use his arrogance and ignorance on modern actions (IE that ships can really go 3D and the regulations) to defeat him.
Re: TNG S6: Time's Arrow, Part II
I was greatly awaiting this episode in my rewatching. I remember it fondly from my first viewing 20 years ago. I did not disappoint. This is just behind BoBW in my rating of TNG 2 parters. I absolutely love these two episodes.
Love how the wrapped everything up here. As someone said I love how there already we established at the start and we didn't have to see them do that.
4 stars absolutely.
I was greatly awaiting this episode in my rewatching. I remember it fondly from my first viewing 20 years ago. I did not disappoint. This is just behind BoBW in my rating of TNG 2 parters. I absolutely love these two episodes.
Love how the wrapped everything up here. As someone said I love how there already we established at the start and we didn't have to see them do that.
4 stars absolutely.
Re: TNG S5: Time's Arrow, Part I
I was greatly awaiting this episode in my rewatching. I remember it fondly from my first viewing 20 years ago. I did not disappoint. This is just behind BoBW in my rating of TNG 2 parters. I absolutely love these two episodes.
Yes this one is world building but the cliffhanger was good. Lotta good parts in this.
I was greatly awaiting this episode in my rewatching. I remember it fondly from my first viewing 20 years ago. I did not disappoint. This is just behind BoBW in my rating of TNG 2 parters. I absolutely love these two episodes.
Yes this one is world building but the cliffhanger was good. Lotta good parts in this.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
Man, I loved Angel more than Buffy. I might be the only person on earth who did.
Angel was darker, yes, but that just made it's goofier moments more hilarious. Shame it never got the finale it deserved.
Man, I loved Angel more than Buffy. I might be the only person on earth who did.
Angel was darker, yes, but that just made it's goofier moments more hilarious. Shame it never got the finale it deserved.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@Bob
That's for sure true.
I only used the star ratings as a quick and easy barometer to show one man's trend.
Everyone is free to do their own honest evaluation of past shows. A few of us have, I'm sure.
I know that the shows with the most 3.5/4 star ratings for me are DS9, TNG, TOS, VOY, ENT, and DISCO.
Only two episodes of Discovery are rated 3.5 or better in my view, both from season two: New Eden and If Memory Serves.
But, like Booming said, picking out ratings is not about determining which season was better. It was used to show if a series is putting out high quality content at least some of the time.
And even when looking at seasons as a whole, as I said I'd rather have a season that had a few total stinkers but also a few 4 star gems, as opposed to one that flatlined with every episode being "just good."
@Bob
That's for sure true.
I only used the star ratings as a quick and easy barometer to show one man's trend.
Everyone is free to do their own honest evaluation of past shows. A few of us have, I'm sure.
I know that the shows with the most 3.5/4 star ratings for me are DS9, TNG, TOS, VOY, ENT, and DISCO.
Only two episodes of Discovery are rated 3.5 or better in my view, both from season two: New Eden and If Memory Serves.
But, like Booming said, picking out ratings is not about determining which season was better. It was used to show if a series is putting out high quality content at least some of the time.
And even when looking at seasons as a whole, as I said I'd rather have a season that had a few total stinkers but also a few 4 star gems, as opposed to one that flatlined with every episode being "just good."
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ Chrome,
well I added the math in just to clarify the results of the poll.
The fact is Discovery has failed to reach a standard expected of past shows. It's had three years to do it (considered the barometer by most fans) and all it has to show for it are three wildly different half-baked ideas in three wildly, tonally different seasons.
@ Chrome,
well I added the math in just to clarify the results of the poll.
The fact is Discovery has failed to reach a standard expected of past shows. It's had three years to do it (considered the barometer by most fans) and all it has to show for it are three wildly different half-baked ideas in three wildly, tonally different seasons.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
I don't think it's fair to call Star Trek Discovery a science fiction show. It's more like a melodramatic action show masquerading as a sci-fi show. It's as much a sci-fi show as Community is educational television because it's set at a school.
Discovery doesn't challenge the viewer. It doesn't examine big questions about the human condition. It doesn't examine the role of technology in the lives of the people who use it. It doesn't do any of the things we expect a sci-fi show to do.
It's not about anything.
I don't think it's fair to call Star Trek Discovery a science fiction show. It's more like a melodramatic action show masquerading as a sci-fi show. It's as much a sci-fi show as Community is educational television because it's set at a school.
Discovery doesn't challenge the viewer. It doesn't examine big questions about the human condition. It doesn't examine the role of technology in the lives of the people who use it. It doesn't do any of the things we expect a sci-fi show to do.
It's not about anything.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@Chrome
Maybe I'm misunderstanding,
but if next season of Discovery was fifteen episodes all rated 3 stars I would not consider that the best season ever. Not by a long shot. I'd call it the most cromulent season ever.
How could I call it the best when previous seasons had episodes that reached so much higher than 3 stars? In fact I'd rather have a season that had, say, five 3.5 or better episodes even if it also had five that were rated 1.5 or worse. I'd rather have that than one that never reaches the next level of greatness, even if it also never dips below what is considered acceptable.
But that's just me
@Chrome
Maybe I'm misunderstanding,
but if next season of Discovery was fifteen episodes all rated 3 stars I would not consider that the best season ever. Not by a long shot. I'd call it the most cromulent season ever.
How could I call it the best when previous seasons had episodes that reached so much higher than 3 stars? In fact I'd rather have a season that had, say, five 3.5 or better episodes even if it also had five that were rated 1.5 or worse. I'd rather have that than one that never reaches the next level of greatness, even if it also never dips below what is considered acceptable.
But that's just me
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
Discovery is not getting better. It's different, sure. Every season feels like it belongs to a totally different show, but it's not improving. It's doing different things okay and different things wrong, but it's not getting any better.
For fun I went back to look at the number of 3.5 or higher ratings that Jammer gave in the first three seasons of past Star Trek shows, and compared them to Disco.
A few caveats: Star ratings are subjective, but since these ratings are all by the same person it's good for seeing trends. Also, past Star Trek shows had more episodes per season, but that's actually a handicap in Disco's favor since the whole reason TV shows have fewer seasons is to increase the quality per episode.
That being said:
The Original Series had seventeen episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
The Next Generation had fourteen episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
DS9 had a whopping twenty-three episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
Voyager had twelve episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
Enterprise had twelve episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
Discovery has had four episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
21% of TOS is rated 3.5 or higher
19% of TNG's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
32% of DS9's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
18% of VOY's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
16% of ENT's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
.09% of DISCO's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher. That's not counting the last episode which, as of writing, is not yet rated.
Tastes vary and everyone is different, I know, but I think the trend is clear that Discovery is not improving nor is it all in all a better show in terms of quality episodes than its predecessors.
For the record
TOS had nine episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
TNG had fourteen episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
DS9 had one episode rate 1.5 stars or lower
VOY had nine episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
ENT had six episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
DISCO has had zero episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
So I guess Disco's best is nowhere close as good as the previous shows, but it's also not as bad as those shows could be, either. But when there are fewer episodes per season, that's hardly worth crowing about.
Discovery is not getting better. It's different, sure. Every season feels like it belongs to a totally different show, but it's not improving. It's doing different things okay and different things wrong, but it's not getting any better.
For fun I went back to look at the number of 3.5 or higher ratings that Jammer gave in the first three seasons of past Star Trek shows, and compared them to Disco.
A few caveats: Star ratings are subjective, but since these ratings are all by the same person it's good for seeing trends. Also, past Star Trek shows had more episodes per season, but that's actually a handicap in Disco's favor since the whole reason TV shows have fewer seasons is to increase the quality per episode.
That being said:
The Original Series had seventeen episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
The Next Generation had fourteen episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
DS9 had a whopping twenty-three episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
Voyager had twelve episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
Enterprise had twelve episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
Discovery has had four episodes rated either 3.5 or 4 stars
21% of TOS is rated 3.5 or higher
19% of TNG's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
32% of DS9's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
18% of VOY's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
16% of ENT's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher
.09% of DISCO's first three seasons are rated 3.5 or higher. That's not counting the last episode which, as of writing, is not yet rated.
Tastes vary and everyone is different, I know, but I think the trend is clear that Discovery is not improving nor is it all in all a better show in terms of quality episodes than its predecessors.
For the record
TOS had nine episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
TNG had fourteen episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
DS9 had one episode rate 1.5 stars or lower
VOY had nine episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
ENT had six episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
DISCO has had zero episodes rate 1.5 stars or lower
So I guess Disco's best is nowhere close as good as the previous shows, but it's also not as bad as those shows could be, either. But when there are fewer episodes per season, that's hardly worth crowing about.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
"Booming nailed it when saying this show is aimed at making people feel instead of think. There is absolutely nothing in this show that is thought provoking. "
Darmok and Tapestry and The Inner Light and It's Only a Paper Moon were also aimed at making people feel. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just that the most that those same attempts by Discovery has elicited from me so far has been eye-rolls.
"Booming nailed it when saying this show is aimed at making people feel instead of think. There is absolutely nothing in this show that is thought provoking. "
Darmok and Tapestry and The Inner Light and It's Only a Paper Moon were also aimed at making people feel. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just that the most that those same attempts by Discovery has elicited from me so far has been eye-rolls.
Re: TNG S5: The First Duty
@Diana - I like that explanation a lot. My head canon was always that one was a fake name and you have the perfect story for that.
Great episode. Better than I remember.
@Diana - I like that explanation a lot. My head canon was always that one was a fake name and you have the perfect story for that.
Great episode. Better than I remember.
Re: TNG S5: Cause and Effect
Absolutely loved this episode. One of my top 3 as well. I was getting more and more excited as I kept getting closer to this episode watching Season 5 haha.
@Jeffrey Jakucyk - GREAT explanation about how its more of a loop bubble than a true loop.
Absolutely loved this episode. One of my top 3 as well. I was getting more and more excited as I kept getting closer to this episode watching Season 5 haha.
@Jeffrey Jakucyk - GREAT explanation about how its more of a loop bubble than a true loop.
Re: TNG S5: Ethics
I usually agree it's Jammer and most of the commenters but not here. This was a bad boring episode. I knew what was going to happen from the start. There easy nothing interesting here. And I love Crusher and Darmok.
Half star at best.
I usually agree it's Jammer and most of the commenters but not here. This was a bad boring episode. I knew what was going to happen from the start. There easy nothing interesting here. And I love Crusher and Darmok.
Half star at best.
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