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alipvz
Tue, Jan 8, 2013, 1:24am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: Star Trek: Generations

This movie could have been so much more. It was not well thought out. Just plain assinine!!

The thing that irked me was the fact that it physically took a lot of energy to get into the nexus ( like blowing up stars, flying ships through it, having it come to you etc....). Yet, when the two captains decide to leave, they ride out on horseback!!?? I just never lived down the stupidity.

With Spock's 200 year + lifespan and the fact that Scotty was already in the 24th century, they could have truly made a "generational" film. Leave it to Berman and company to muck it up.

Poor Kirk's death wasn't handled with the heroic standards that he deserved. The Guy didn't even get a 21 gun salute funeral!!! Where were the speeches and bagpipes like in Star Trek 2 when Spock died. This is the way you handle a hero's death? Bury him quietly on a mountain top? One of the greatest captains in Starfleet???I think this film didn't give Kirk the proper respect.

If you were going to have the TOS cast in the film, they should have been utilized throughout the better part of the film interacting with the next generation crew as opposed to being used like props.

Unsatisfying indeed!!!!!
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alipvz
Mon, Jun 22, 2009, 11:59pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: Star Trek (2009)

Taken by itself, this movie can be entertaining at times; but in the end, its biggest flaw is that it’s not well thought out.

First, I found certain parts to be a bit clichéd; namely Kirk’s birth scene as his father rams the Kelvin into the Narada; Kirk demolishing his stepfather’s car; or the whole bar scene from Kirk’s pickup line of Uhura to Pike giving Kirk his life motivating speech.

The whole motivation for Nero’s revenge is just a mess and should have been rewritten.

Star Trek has certain parameters regarding its technology. In this movie, these parameters have clearly gone out the window. The black hole or red matter thing I can live with; but as far as I can remember, all ships in the Star Trek universe could monitor situations in warp; but that didn’t seem to be the case in this movie. The biggest example of this is when the Enterprise is en route to Vulcan. You mean to tell me this ship can fly billions of miles an hour but they don’t know that they are going to drop into the middle of a war zone when they come out of warp? Whatever happened to the phrase, “Sensors indicate that….. “. The biggest insult to technology is the whole transwarp beaming thing. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? In the 40+ years that I have watched Star Trek, they never did that (not even in the 24th century!). Hell, you might as well do away with starships if you got transwarp transporting. To add further insult, I guess you can beam things in and out, even though a starship’s shields are up. The scary part is that the Enterprise doesn’t have sensors to know that it just had people beam aboard without permission. (Oh wait a minute! They don’t have sensors to know that they are flying into a war zone either, so I guess that explains it.) Talk about handy little plot devices. If you’re going to do Star Trek, get the technobabble right.

I don’t care if you got a movie dealing with the 23rd century, 21st century, fiction or reality. I find it an insult to ANYBODY who watches this movie to believe that a cadet can be promoted to a starship captain by the end of the movie. This is what I mean when I say this movie isn’t well thought out.

On a personal note, I know it’s not feasible for the original actors to step into these roles. Chris Pine did a fine job but let’s be clear that William Shatner IS Captain James T. Kirk, period.

Good things about this movie are that Uhura’s role is well written; the special effects and action scenes are damn good; and I like the musical score better than any of the TNG movies. Comedic scenes with McCoy and Scotty work very well.

All in all an entertaining effort, but not if you will pardon my expression, … logical.
Someone get Nicholas Meyer back; please!
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