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Yanks
Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 9:38am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Relativity

@ gotnohouse
Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 7:01pm (UTC -5)

"@Yanks - I would have to disagree. Season 5 of Voyager was much better than 4. Yes things picked up with Seven, but the plots were not very engaging or interesting. Too many spacial phenomena episodes. 5 actually had a variety in story and aliens."

I finished grading VOY and season 5 rated as my #1 Voyager season.

# Eps Average
Season 5 25 3.08
Season 1 15 3.07
Season 2 26 3.02
Season 3 26 2.88
Season 4 24 2.83
Season 6 26 2.75
Season 7 23 2.65
Totals: 165 2.89

"DS9 crushes supremely. All hail Grand Nagus Rom!!!"

It was great when it was on point (DOM War), but some of their filler episodes... burp...
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Yanks
Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 6:03pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Redemption, Part II

"Enterprise was the first series to seriously get exploitative and funny enough its ratings tanked." ..... stop.... please just stop. Trek ratings started a downward spiral beginning with season 5 of TNG. DS9, VOY and ENT all lost viewership at a pretty consistent rate. (DS9 lost more viewers than ENT ever had) To say ENT "tanked" because of decon scenes is ridiculous. Enterprise was on a shitty failing network... we're lucky it lasted 4 years.

Great discussion here guys (and gals?)... I don't know that we've heard the FEmale take yet :-) Ladies?

Wonderful read Skeptical. Aside from your disdain of Enterprise I find myself pretty much in lock-step with your thoughts.

Peter, you commented on the uniforms for ST 2-6... I think it was because of the age of the actors. I think I remember reading where they all approached TPIC and emphatically stated they wouldn't continue in the TMP leotard things. At their age, I don't blame them. Great point about BAB5. I can't picture Ivanova in a catsuit, nor do I want to.

I think TNG is getting a little bit of a pass here. Troi was in a catsuit (not normal uniform) from day one (low cut) and MANY occasions, was dressed as sexy as possible (and I remember being quite happy with that. :-)) Even Crusher got her time in tights... remember the "camel-toe" episode? Riker went semi-bare chested many times as did Picard. I think "they" just continued the same "futuristic" Star Trek look that TOS started.

DS9 toned it down a bit from TNG, but they many times flaunted their beauties as well. (male and female) The holosuite provided many opportunities to show some skin for Kira and Jadzia... and then, of course, there is Lita and all the dabo girls in Quarks. Funny, the biggest issue I had with Kira's uniform was the huge shoulder pads she had in season 1... I never really took notice of a progressing catsuit on her.

Voyager... Kate was really pissed when they brought in 7. Everyone says it gave Voyager a ratings boost, but I didn't see it and it certainly didn't last. Yoyager lost viewers at about the same rate as all the spin-offs. Even with 7, I might say that Voyager was as conservative as any Trek series. Seven is one of those characters that infuriates some because yes, they poured her into a catsuit (especially in season 4) but she didn't sleep around and only saught romance in late season 7. She was a great, very well written character, performed very well by Jeri.

Enterprise... I don't have any issue with the decon scenes... the process seemed a logical precursor to transporters filtering everything out. Of course, they strongly displayed it in the opener... almost every TV series injects something sexual to snag fans... then they taper off once they get going. Enterprise was no different. T'pol was in a catsuit... I thank the producers for that... although of all the catsuits in trek - I have the hardest time with hers. I think an appropriate Vulcan garb would have been better - I never thought of Vulcan females walking around in catsuits. Jolene is most beautiful from the neck up... that wouldn't have been covered. She could have progressed to the colorful catsuits when she resigned her commission to remain on Enterprise (I would have been more than fine with a star fleet jumpsuit like she wore in 'Twilight'). I didn't mind the neuro-pressure sessions (and yes I know they were an attempt to bolster viewership). They gave us a great T'Pol/Trip relationship. "They" didn't leave the exposure to just the gals either, Archer, Trip, Malcolm and Travis all got their opportunities to show off. I'm most certain that the gals didn't mind Archer's "sexual" scenes at all. I know MANY female ENT fans that are primarily fans because Scott was in the show.

Is the most conservative Trek series 'Discovery'? Funny saying that as DSC went out of its way to give us the first main cast gay relationship.

"Sexual" has been a trek staple from the get-go as much as time travel has. There only a few times I had issue with it. It's just part of the deal for me, always has been.

As is over the top sexual is in FarScape, etc.

Interesting topic.
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Yanks
Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 5:44am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Redemption, Part II

@ Peter G.
Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 1:16pm (UTC -5)

"Agreed, that was the culture, especially late 80's-early 90's. But Booming seemed to be saying that Trek had a habit of objectifying women, and I don't think that assertion stands for TOS, TNG, or DS9. ...(snip)"

TOS did for sure. Mini skirts for the uniformed star fleet ladies and every alien woman aside from the salt sucker was hot as hell and wore clothing accentuating their beauty.

Not that I minded any of that...

TOS has been called the "soft porn" of 60's TV. :-)

Now that's been said, it was done for the guys too... just not as routine.

I think it's just about attempting to gather ratings; no sexist agenda. That never changes in TV.
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Yanks
Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 12:52pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Redemption, Part II

Not sure how we got on this, but I'll put in my plug for the sexiest Klingon FEmale...

While I do like Grilka from DS9, for he it's K'ehleyr from TNG. Suzie Plaxton wins hands down. :-)
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Yanks
Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 8:09am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Zero Hour

Jason R.,

I was upset our hero's didn't get home too.

The best part about this time travel adventure is that it wraps up the TCW.

Enterprise had 10 time-travel episodes (5 in season 3). A little higher percentage than the rest... although I thought they were all pretty well done.

It was the timing of this one that irked me. I really wanted to see our heroes get home.

Don't skip 'Storm Front' ... as far as Star Trek Nazi episodes go, it's by far the best in Trek.

Little note... time travel is a trek staple.

50 episodes stretched across all the series. (51 if you count Discovery)

4 of the movies too.
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Yanks
Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 11:49am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: In the Flesh

Jason,

Your first point is really moot.

I (Federation) have the knowledge and technology necessary to "open a rift" (or whatever they called it) into fluidic space. While the ships linking together is impressive, I'm prepared to conduct random genocide in your backyard... my resources are limitless and my resolve is absolute. .. as a matter of point, we have currently manufactured and stationed in excess of 1 million warheads (the big ones) ready to deploy....

I do agree with you (see my comments above) about this episode and species 8472. They neutered a GREAT villain... better than the Borg in my view.
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Yanks
Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 6:40pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: In the Flesh

I don't know that anyone is being unfair to anything.

What I'm saying is that it's more than plausible for species 8472 to do this using the information they had, albeit patchy and incomplete.
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Yanks
Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 3:37pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: In the Flesh

@ Chrome
"So the Dominion comparison is invalid and Rahul’s criticism is fair."

So what's wrong with species 8472 practicing in the Delta Quadrant?

They are telepathic, so they could gain the necessary info from their contact with the Voyager crew and any Borg they linked with. The Borg had federation/Earth knowledge.

Remember, we (Federation) had an incredibly powerful weapon against them. One in which they had no defense... seems like a plausible angle for them to take.
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Yanks
Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 12:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: In the Flesh

@ Chrome’s Voyager Alt

"Of course The Dominion had a stable wormhole so, yeah."

For what we know about fluidic space, it might just be a simple as setting a point and entering our space. It might be like a mobile borg transwarp hub. Distance might be irrelevant.
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Yanks
Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 4:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The Perfect Mate

What too many comments on this episode fellas :-)
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Yanks
Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 10:10am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Virtuoso

HackFarlane
Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 4:51pm (UTC -5)

"The Doctor's farewell performance of "Rondine al Nido" in the Qomarian opera house was so moving it brought tears to my eyes, which is about the last thing I was expecting. "

What really got me was when Janeway wiped her tears from her face.
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Yanks
Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 10:03am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: 11:59

Tim-1,

You should feel ashamed.

Slap yourself in the face and get back in front of that TV!! :-)
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Yanks
Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 3:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

Just rewatched this the other night.

What a great ride.

I do however, it great trekkian stile, have noticed a pretty large Spock gaff...

I remember noticing it the first time I saw it too.

Pondering whether I should share...

Anyone care to guess?
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Yanks
Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 9:46am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Fallen Hero

@ Jericho Drakane
Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 3:21am (UTC -5)

"No appreciation for Admiral Forrest in the comments? Seriously, I think that this guy gives Ross a run for his money for best Admiral in a Trek TV show."

I think he is hands down the best. Vaughn Armstrong as an actor and how this ADM is written has no parallel in Trek.
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Yanks
Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 11:14am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Behind the Lines

I never thought the "great link" meant sex.

Also, for all we know, ALL founders are male except one.
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Yanks
Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 8:19am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Rogue Planet

We lost Stephanie Niznik (only 52)

www.imdb.com/name/nm0633318/?ref_=tt_cl_t8

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/stephanie-niznik-dead-dies-star-trek-everwood-1203266197/
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Yanks
Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 6:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Macrocosm

I guess it's all relative.

It really didn't bother me because I didn't know all that stuff Yusef was speaking about.

With all the trek-no-magic we accept, I don't think this is all that bad or that big a deal.
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Yanks
Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 8:25am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

It IS interesting that in order to keep an expensive show like this going they had to rely on a streaming service to stay alive. ... Maybe CBS wasn't so stupid with their marketing plan with Star Trek Discovery?
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Yanks
Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 8:00am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: Year of Hell, Part II

JanC,

While I side with your emotions, nitpicking is what we do here... it took me awhile to get used to it when I first made myself present on the interweb. Reading these reviews should never remove the enjoyment of watching an movie or series IMO. I've watched all of them at least 4 times from stem to stern. (except Discovery, only twice for that one :-) )

...and you're right... Voyager does seem to get way too much criticism IMO, right along with Enterprise. It's a battle we must fight :-)
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Yanks
Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 9:23am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S4: The Gift

MadBaggins,

Care to elaborate?
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Yanks
Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 5:57am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Macrocosm

Yusef,

This IS science FICTION you know...
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Yanks
Thu, May 30, 2019, 8:09am (UTC -5)
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story

I finally saw this on Netflix.

Meh.... I nodded of a couple times.

2 stars from me. I guess if I were more of a SW nut it might have captivated/intrigued me more.

Not nearly as good as 'Rogue One' IMO.
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Yanks
Tue, May 14, 2019, 9:57am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind

Oh, I forgot to mention... They showed one of my favorite moments in all of trek during the documentary. Sisko and Vic singing "The Best is Yet to Come".
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Yanks
Tue, May 14, 2019, 6:07am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: What You Leave Behind

@ wolfstar

"Haplo, Yanks - I've seen the DS9 documentary. I gave it an 8/10 (or a high 3 on the Jammer scale). It was great hearing all the actors talk so intelligently about their roles. For me the season eight part was the weakest element - admittedly they only had one day to come up with it, but I didn't think the writers' ideas worked and a lot of the groundwork and character choices seemed to have been borrowed from the relaunch novels. A shame there was no discussion of The Visitor or In The Pale Moonlight at all in the two-hour runtime, and no discussion of the geopolitical side of the show either (the parallels between Bajor/Cardassia and eastern European countries recovering from Soviet domination in the 1990s, Changeling paranoia in relation to terrorism fears in the U.S., etc.). I did really enjoy it, but it was a little too much of a love-in and nostalgia fest - which is entirely warranted, as the show is awesome, but I'd have preferred a slightly more sober and analytical look at what made DS9 so resonant and timeless, rather than lots of scenes of the cast singing and fooling around."

I enjoyed it. There was about 70 folks in the theater I saw it in last night. We all applauded when it was over. I gave some $$$$ to the effort so Steven was speaking to me at the end :-)

I was a little disappointed that it seemed they were all whining about not getting the credit it/they deserved? I was surprised that Armin Shimmerman was so taken aback with some criticism... it really bothered him? .... DS9 made him... we wouldn't know who he was if not for DS9.

We got to see Terry talk about the contract issues... sort of, she never really exposed the whole thing but you could see it really bothered her on how she was treated.

The stuff we got in HD was pretty darn amazing looking. I also liked the cartoon sketch stuff...

I didn't mind the season 8 stuff. All good and would have been interesting for sure. It was funny as hell when Nog (Aron) went off :-)

I don't like the idea of Garak being gay and needed to be in a relationship with Bashir.

It also really didn't feel like this was a reunion... they are together all the time at the conventions...

Some laugh-out-loud funny moments.

Behr needs to grow up and lose the purple goat.

Of course they go to 'Past Tense' and 'Far Beyond the Stars' as the key episodes that make DS9 great. .... not so sure about that, I might have chosen others... many others...

I think they got everyone that was alive to participate... quite the gaggle of niners :-)

HAHA... they hit on the DS9 ending controversy... brought up pretty much every point I made here... I feel vindicated :-)

I stayed until the end so the run time for me was closer to 2 1/2 hours.

I'll purchase it on DVD and add it to my collection.
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Yanks
Mon, May 13, 2019, 9:47am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

Great news!!
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