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Yair
Sat, Jan 2, 2021, 8:07pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: There Is a Tide...

This episode is an aggressive attack on the viewer's intelligence. The action parts are mostly forgettable, the only thing stuck in my mind was how cheap the Discovery looked. The plot and world-building parts, however, are atrocious. I can deal with some level of plot-induced stupidity (Ossyra had to come physically rather than holo-conference so she wouldn't be on the ship when the crew frees itself), but only to a point.

Why is Michael notifying her mom and not Starfleet that Ossyra took over the Discovery? For all she knows, Ossyra is using the Discovery as part of some plot and Starfleet knows nothing. Wait, Michael DID try to send a message, but that didn't work since the comms were fried. So naturally five minutes later, when she can send a message, she sends it to her mom and not her 'superiors'. (The trick is that the viewers know by that time that Vance figured it out. But Michael had no knowledge of this).

The Emerald Chain has institutions that can technically ban slavery? We've seen no hint of institutions so far. The Federation has legitimacy? Didn't most worlds secede? The negotiations were a farce. I'd say that Vance was just stalling her, except his last gambit made sure the negotiations would fail right away. What was he even trying to do?

At least the action parts were just forgettable and Stamets had some decent lines, but as expected the serialized plot is going nowhere. Ultimately, DIS shows that serialization can make shows worse if proper care is not taken. In this case, insufficient world-building in a new setting.
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Yair
Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 12:25pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Su'Kal

You are a malfunctioning computer running an holodeck simulation for decades to raise a child. Finally, a rescue crew arrives to take your charge. Do you:

A) Turn off the holodeck, brief the rescuers, say goodbye, and let them beam off with your charge.
B) Pass them via a possibly life-threatening experience to try to teach the child something, despite them being far more qualified to handle his wellbeing? (them or at least whatever Kelpien community receives him soon later)

That was a trick question. This is Star Trek. The holodeck can never be turned off. A similar reason forbids having CCTV anywhere on the ship under pain of death.

Back to the episode, we have a typical plot structure. The main plot has Saru, Michael and Culbar beam away to an holodeck to rescue a Kelpien child, which somehow has caused the Burn (??). Somehow only the crew characters are affected by radiation, so they're on a time limit. The computer won't let them go unless they teach the child to face his fears...

As holodeck jeopardy plots go, this isn't bad. The acting was mostly fine and the idea is decent (a computer trying to raise a child has been done elsewhere, but a different take would have been welcome). But there are very few good holodeck jeopardy plots, and this isn't one of them either. I just didn't feel the payoff was earned compared to (for example) 'Forget Me Not'. Adira had some dialog and flashbacks to justify her growth, the child just not enough.

Ah, and there's the other plot. Tilly and the rest of the ship face off against Ossyra. They figure out the important thing in advance (Ossyra wants the ship whole), which is why they think of no protection against the obvious boarding play. That would require us knowing who the security chief is, and we can't have that in DIS. So Ossyra somehow boards the ship (transportation via shields?) and takes over.

All in all, this is an OK episode weighted down by typical DIS factors, like Burnham centrism (questioning Saru's objectivity is rich from her), fantasy storytelling rather than sci-fi storytelling (a child causing the Burn would work in some other settings like Star Wars far more easily), plot railroading, etc.
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Yair
Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 1:47pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary

This is an OK episode which could have been far better. The main thread sets up an interesting and impossible situation for the planet-side people. Book's brother has to choose between his son and his brother. Osyraa - the episode's villain, which starts of very cliched but gets a bit better later - has to wonder what the Federation is doing there at all ***. Saru has to search for a way to balance his orders and demands he cannot morally tolerate.

This has the makings of a tragedy. Showing that or an a more optimistic outcome - which still had the acknowledge the possibility of a tragedy to avert it - could have worked. But this is wasted by a passable action resolution, a technobabble solution for the planet's problem and not properly focusing on the characters.

Instead, we get Detmer, not Michael, to save the day - which is fine! But there were ways to make that more important to the character, maybe we'll see some of that in future episodes - and a really annoying thread with Georgiou, a one-note character which should just die die die already. Making a good impression of an aggressive patient is just barely enough to not completely make that thread unwatchable. Aside, there's a really poor CGI for the sea locusts, the showrunners should have saved on money and not showed them at all.

This is a pattern for S3 DIS - it sets up interesting premises, but cannot properly and fully exploit them. It is focused only on a few crew characters. It is restricted to a too short length (perhaps save on bad CGI a bit?), and still has some of the action addiction of S1/S2, though not so anywhere as bad here as in Scavengers. Its serialization often brings it down rather than improve it.

We should have seen more in Unification III of the Vulcans, more of Earth in People of Earth and a more complicated resolution here.

*** 'Observe'. Right. Osyraa, a ruthless crime boss, really believes that the Federation is risking its rare dilithium supplies (Osyraa may not know about the Spore Drive) or an irreplaceable warship (if she does know) just to 'observe' her.

Perhaps the Federation is making a move on their transwarp worm supplies? (The episode seems to imply that these worms can move through warp, but require feeding first...). If the episode didn't just go for an action resolution, or if it were a 2-parter, this should have been an obvious consideration for her to make.

Speaking of plot and worldbuilding, why do so many people despise the Federation, and all the main home worlds have seceded? Hopefully we'll see some payoff for that, rather than it being ignored in favour of some a technobabble Burn/Music-related plot.
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Yair
Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 12:04pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

@Booming,

"You can be head of Starfleet which gives you certain rights and duties but you don't need a higher rank for that than other four star admirals... Having only one person with that rank who gets that rank because of the position makes no sense..."

It's uncommon, but this can exist in real military organizations. e.g. The Israeli CDS is the only active Rav Aluf. Singapore's Chief of Defence Force is the only active Lieutenant-General. These are small armies (which is why the 'highest' rank is a 3-star) but still.

Tilly as XO of course makes no sense, but I don't think this episode or Kirsten Beyer should be blamed for it. That promotion must have been dictated by the showrunners themselves, not just a whim of Beyer. How can a writer possibly make *that* look remotely convincing - and within the timelimit of the B-Plot of a single episode? The writer was forced to do something stupid, and having a script which highlights the absurdity was the best of it, which still isn't much.

DIS's serialization and cast choices tend to bring it down, and apparently Paradise didn't fix it all. One may still hope the season doesn't collapse into a silly plot like S2 did.
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Yair
Fri, Nov 27, 2020, 4:01pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Unification III

There are good ideas behind the episode, and plenty of ambition in tying directly to TNG. The execution isn't as good as it can be though. I'd rate this higher than the previous episode, but this episode should have been two episodes not one.

It makes perfect sense for Romulans to end up on Vulcan after all that happened, and the idea of tensions is reasonable as well. But we are never given any idea for why these tensions are so politically relevant centuries later. Why is there so much dissension among Vulcano-Romulans (those in the middle)? No idea. This is a pity, since the scenes which focus on the Vulcans are intriguing (Saru being an effective diplomat is another highlight), and there could have been more exploration of the Vulcans/Romulans.

Also, I'd have expected the Spore Drive will be mentioned during the trial scenes. 'You are worried we will misuse SB-19 data. The Federation already has a drive technology which will avoid dilithium, yet did not use it due to risk to the universe*. If that's how we act with a complete working drive, SB-19 will be safe with us'. They lug this absurd fantasy tech around and don't mention it the one time it's actually very relevant? Sigh.

The problem is that A-plot is focused on Burnham to the detriment of other considerations. Burnham deserves what she gets, but she isn't as engaging, and I'm not entirely convinced by her confession (her mom telling us she tells the truth is a case of 'show not tell'. Frankly that witness is very unreliable). Two episodes would have allowed us to focus on the Vulcans more without dropping the Burnham plotline.

As for the B-Plot, promoting Tilly is well telegraphed (she was 'Killy' in S1) yet still absurd and unearned. She was uncertain of herself as late as 'Far from home'! The most obvious thing would have been to send some 32nd Starfleet officer to serve as XO. This would have avoided all those exposition scenes. From the cast, Reno would have been the better choice.
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Yair
Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 4:38am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Scavengers

Watchable but not very good.

As is usual for S3 DIS, many character scenes are well thought - especially anything Saru, but also everything else on the ship (too thin to be a B-Plot) and even Book-Burnham are OK. However, the main prison-break plot is generic-ish and illogical and focuses on Georgiou which is still the weakest most unbelievable character. Georgiou's act has been growing ever thinner, and I could care less about her PTSD/whatever.

Burnham and Georgiou's plot requires the villain to follow them onto the ship, for him to send his guards back (isn't raw Dilithium far more valuable than some prisoners?) but not himself, to not transport back immediately after being attacked, and most importantly, to not have them shot - half the episode I was expecting him to just shoot them both and take the Dilithium - and for the Syndicate to not have any air/space defenses.

The weak plot reminds me of my worry for S3 - that the show will end up like S1/S2, focusing on a weak/crazy serial plot. One of DIS's weaknesses has been that its serialization often brought the show down rather than up. Other people must have thought of Burnham's idea first, yet... Well, we'll see. At least this time they didn't mention the Burn every other sentence.
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Yair
Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 8:55am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Forget Me Not

@Chrome,

I suspect what Tilly did was nonsense on its face, like linking Mycology with space travel, and is still nonsense. Stamets understands he should be nicer about it, since other people also need to understand the MacGuffin (they're settings up using it as a replacement for the warp drive I guess?) and at least Tilly is trying to learn.

I do find the Stamets arc is getting annonying. Yea, he got injured and is gruff about it. So? People process in their own ways. If others want to give him a rest, they could sit still for a while; It's not as if Stamets decides to operate the MacGuffin on his own.

As for Detmer, It was set up, but I read her arc also as a bit of metacommentary - we didn't even know her name in S1 despite her key role.
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Yair
Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 7:16am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Forget Me Not

An OK A plot and a really good B plot make this DIS's best episode yet. Nothing new about the Trill, but the character focus works throughout the episode, and the dinner scene is great.

A few notes:
A) +1 for being suspicious of the Trill. It has been almost 1000 years and this entire situation is exceptional, it makes perfect sense to be suspicious. Which makes it odd why the crew didn't take even more precautions.

B) Why do most Trill councilors oppose going to the caves? It seems tacked on to provide conflict, given how well they go along with it after Adira is in the pool.

C) DIS hasn't entirely overcome its "tell not show" problem - the 'too responsible' talk with Burnham is so S2, we already understood Xi did well.

D) This character focus works so well also because it doesn't really need DIS's most problematic characters. Georgiou wisely does almost nothing (why is she even part of the officer crew? sigh), Burnham's role could have been played by almost any crew member who is fast enough with a phaser.
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Yair
Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 8:12am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

Liked this more than the previous episode, the crew is actually acting as a crew, Saru gets the command role he so obviously deserved, and the villain is good (well, bad) enough. Even Michael's big smile at the end works. Not great but good enough for a second episode.

* Note that even the Hazmat repair guy named himself. A cute self-referential joke.

* Georgiou shouldn't be here for too many reasons to count. She's there to introduce tension, but the result is just tonally off. There's no good reason for her to be there or to be tolerated like that, and the bad guy should have just shot her.

* Stamets actually had more characterization in S1 than in the other seasons. He hated serving on a warship, liked Opera and was critical for the plot piece (which will hopefully stop existing forever). Right now, he's defined only by his relations with Culber, and his poor health (both from S1). The character could use actually doing something again.

* I give 95% odds that the villain just hangs around the house until the Feds are gone, and then goes back and either him or the other person in the house die.
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Yair
Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 7:40am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

@Mike

"On Tilly... Technology has already rendered many of the body's functions as obsolete in our time, so it's not hard to envisage the body as wholly obsolete in the future. "

In many plausible futurist universes you'd be right. In the Trek universe where 'sending unescorted senior officers in apparently unaltered human bodies to explore planets' happens a lot for some reason, physical fitness matters.

We wouldn't have to change much in this episode to have Tilly go back alone to the discovery over 'parasitic' ice, and a more nimble and lightweight Tilly should have had a better chance of surviving that.
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Yair
Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 7:35am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 1

Others wrote just about everything I wanted to write about the episode. As one commenter here wrote: "Meh". This episode can be entirely skipped for the next (better) episode. I'll just note that I wished for a bit more from the setting.

One of Trek's flaws is that its tech is growing anachronistic, making it much less relevant as a sci-fi series. Moving the timeline forward should allow us to address that while not stepping over the current franchise.

Except the showrunners picked a basically post-apocalyptic setting, which I suspect means that we'll at best see iterations of existing Trek tech (i.e. personal transporter), rather than dealing with existing and future issues (social media, strong AI, etc. etc.).
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Yair
Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 8:07am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary

@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi,

Ouch you're right (didn't see your post before I hit submit). I'll cut it out.
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Yair
Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 8:06am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary

@Booming,

Well, all these terms do shift a lot. I still don't quiet understand what 'neoliberal' means. Everyone seem to be using it with a different meaning. At the moment, my working assumption is that 'neoliberal' means just about everything ever, simultaneously describing every country on the planet that exists or ever was. Also all of the entities ever described in Star Trek, including sentient nanobots and non-corporeal energy being. But we seem to understand one another and that's enough.

As for the EU, I described how it's sold to its own people, based on my readings of its proponents arguments (e.g. Habermas). I did neglect to mention the 'avoid WW2' argument which is also quiet common but yet another form of a security dilemma which in my opinion is not enough to hold by itself.

As for Trump and Obama - IMHO, the revival of classical realism has as much to do with China's increasing power and Russian aggressiveness as with Trump. Obama's the TPP was meant to contain another state (China) and could just as easily be interpreted as a realist play. The Iran Deal was more of a special exception for Iran, but going into details would derail the conversation here ever more than this post. The Paris deal was started by others and isn't binding enough (I'd have loved a carbon tax, national or international, the trade schemes are too complicated and too prone to bad incentives).
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Yair
Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 1:50am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary

When I write "it [the EU] could go either way" maybe I should have also detailed that some institutions do seem to try to create something beyond simple cooperation or even "just" pooling of sovereignty. But the general direction is still unclear to me.
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Yair
Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 1:36am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary

@Booming,

Wouldn't a defensive realist also be fine theoretically with a Federation existing indefinitely? And even offensive realists could expect Federations to survive for some time.

Me, I'm just an inconsistent "whatever works" regarding IR. 'Realists' ignore entire dynamics by focusing too much on states and power while constructivists (IIRC that's the IR term) often assume norms that don't really exist or have much less power than they assume. A Federation can survive and function, but it needs a bit of "something else" to hold its members together or it eventually dissolves (eventually possibly taking quiet some time). "something else" being a bit hard to elucidate - maybe a shared unique ideal, maybe some special asabiyyah, but I'm sure it's not just raw power balance alone.

I actually had the EU half-in-mind as an entity which doesn't have that "something else", at least not *yet*, but didn't want to open that can of worms. Then you happily dropped by... When it comes down to it, quiet a lot of its internal messaging is 'we have to come together so those other big players don't decide everything for us' (external threat + will to power), and there's a level of internal selfish behaviour which would be a lot harder in a true Federation. It could go either way.

As for the US, you describe Trump accurately, but I'm unsure whether Obama was a 'liberal intergovermentalist' (as you put it) or used institutions as another carrot/stick. Constructivism requires shared norms and it's unclear how much they affected his administration.
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Yair
Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 3:13pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary

@Omicron,

The Xindi arc isn't just a 9/11 analogy. The Xindi Council is a dark mirror of the Federation created by an enemy, making it one of the more interesting villains. Several entirely different races coming together, sounds like the Federation, right? But the members are led almost entirely by fear and distrust (not always unjustified). Fear of mutual annihilation leads them to create the Council, fear of destruction leads them to attack Earth preemptively and prematurely, fear and distrust leads them to break the Council.

The Council is how the Federation would be like if it were constructed solely to solve the security dilemma - preventing a war between the Andorians and Vulcans, stopping either from fearing Earth's rise, and keeping the Romulans out - without having any higher purpose to go along with that. Eventually the members realize the biggest threats left are each other and nature does its course, especially if there's some manipulation "helping" from outside.

Perhaps the Sphere Builders did not understand the Federation. Or maybe they did and decided not to risk creating a possible rival to themselves in the Xindi.

ENT S3 had the possibility to become a classic season if only the writers took more care rather than treating it almost as a sidestory. *Sigh*
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Yair
Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 5:59am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@Alan Roi,

"When did I say the Discovery could kill off Control? Its practically imppossible to completely wipe out anything completely..."

Reading back:

"There have been hints that there is a plan being set in motion to use the situation to take out Control. [Notes how all the characters appear onboard the Discovery]"

At the moment, I don't see any satisfying ways of wrapping this season off.

* I don't see any credible ways of killing Control, so it must live.
* The data must be denied to Control, but simply keeping the Discovery in current timeline while Control is alive resolves very little.
* Destroying the Discovery will also be unsatisfying, given we've established the characters can't/shouldn't do that for 4 episode straight.
* Jumping the Discovery to the future creates its own problems (I've noted that we will have to ask why nobody used a Spore Drive later on). That seems to be the current plan according to this episode.

Hopefully the writers will surprise me, but most likely they'll just have a Big Battle and then jump to the future.
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Yair
Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 5:05am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@Alan Roi,

I don't see how the Discovery could kill off Control.

Going into the past? Burnham's mother tried that, it doesn't work.

Lets say the Discovery destroyed all S31 ships. So? Control is ultimately software, and is quite able to have copies throughout the Galaxy (the notion of what "I" means for AI must be quiet complicated). If it's not completely stupid, at least one of copies is not present.

Most likely is that the S31 ships are destroyed (next episode or offscreen), and the S31 series gets a villain to work against.
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Yair
Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 12:15pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

All this time, we've assumed something would happen to make the Spore Drive go away. If the arc keeps its current direction, I don't see that happening.

There's no time for any new, well, discovery during the Big Battle awaiting us. The only thing left is for Discovery to go into the far future. Given all we know, Starfleet and others will try developing a Spore Drive, and they should eventually succeed in replicating 23th century tech by whenever the Discovery jumps to.

Starfleet has every motivation to get a ship to replace the Discovery, so useful in the last war. There are multiple characters who are well aware of the drive and will stay in TOS era, including Discovery's own captain during S2. Doubtful the crew hid the drive's workings from its own captain or from Starfleet. Starfleet must also have some information from the Glenn.

There's also Control, which had access to everything on Starfleet's computers and possessed Airiam. S31 must also have access to anything Starfleet has. The Empress and the Klingon Empire are at very least aware of what the ship can do, and knowing something is possible goes a long way towards doing it. That the Glenn existed tells us that other people can figure out the drive and the Tardigrade even without Discovery's data.

The only way I see to not make this an rather unpleasant problem (I might not be creative enough) would be to keep the Discovery cast in TOS era, and come up with some reason why the Spore Drive is unused some later season, but that would be a rather disappointing end to S2, e.g. this particular episode turning into a non-evacuation leading to non-goodbyes.
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Yair
Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 3:28am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@Alan, Daya

Now I understand everything. Just about all of DIS is in Michael's head, an extended hallucination following the nasty radiation poisoning she got during the Pilot.
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Yair
Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 5:33pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Through the Valley of Shadows

@Mix,

They aren't addressing their 'logic hole' this time. They're adding two.

We might have had some babble explaining why they couldn't scuttle the Discovery, but now that it is established this is possible, we still have to ask why they didn't do it last chapter.

Also, Michael claims this is the only logical choice - but it obviously isn't. They still have the spore drive (Stamets is congratulated for a jump earlier during this very episode), and could jump far away from the S31 ships.
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Yair
Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 1:20pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Through the Valley of Shadows

There's a typical A/B plot structure, and surprisingly enough its the fantasy/Klingon plot that works better, while the 'regular' action-adventure plot fails completely. I'll get to the ending in a moment.

The adventure part starts with poor dialogue** continues with even more poor dialogue in the Spock-Michael talk***, followed by the universe's most obvious trap, which is sprung most badly**** ending with an unexciting firefight, whose only notable scene is its end. At which point the characters just pretend the nanites don't exist anymore despite being them being able to give information about Control.

The Klingon plot works because the regular characters who do Klingon plots are mostly uninvolved, so we get Ansom Mount who can sell his role (DIS works surprisingly well when the temporary cast is involved in a story that mostly outside of its arc). The dialogue is slightly corny, but this is perfectly fine for Fantasy.

Once both plots are done, they finally understand that they could destroy the ship to delete the data (something they should have figured out last time), precisely in the situation where it wasn't the only logical choice - can't they just use the spore drive to get out? The episode even mentioned explicitly earlier that Stamets can still do that!

Ultimately, the episode succeeds when it does something not quite related to its arc. In retrospect, DIS is at its weakest when it does the things it is supposed to bring to the Trek storytelling: serialization to an arc which isn't quite interesting (if its not a disaster like in S1), the regular characters like Tyler and SMG - look, we're not making the captain the main character! But we'll make all the other characters do what our main character says, at which point her rank doesn't really matter - and this time, poorly done action-adventure.

DIS is better when it is outside its 'innovations': We've seen it can refer to TOS successfully and it can do episodic not too badly, the temporary characters like Pike and Spock. I suspect the showrunners put themselves in a hole in S1 and are slowly trying to dig themselves out.

** Michael rudely interrupting Pike, Tyler telling Michael "noone could stop her".
*** "I'm not angry. I'm enraged." said in a completely flat voice by SMG. There are some very rational reasons to follow the signals, Pike himself gave a few earlier, so this isn't a 'faith' debate.
**** A computer program can't be 'trapped' that way and Michael/Spock should have noticed that. Control must have had, oh, twenty opportunities to 'assimiate' Michael before he makes her suspicious, and given the way he showed some immunity to the shots in the end, should have just ignored her shots and walked up to her.
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Yair
Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 11:24am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity

The RSS feed is also clear.

We were debating earlier why Control decided to turn on its operators. Obviously such pranks convinced it Humanity wasn't worth preserving. #ControlIsRight
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Yair
Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 7:48am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Project Daedalus

From what I'm seeing, just about every fan wants Saru promoted to captain in S3, and that's also the right call for DIS. The problem with Saru now is that the show took away his biggest characteristic. Perhaps there's one more episode returning to Kaminar, and then what?

DIS needs a new touch for the character lest he turns invisible. So far the showrunners concentrated on Saru's super-vision and that's nowhere near enough (apparently, computers can't zoom or do UV analysis in the future). Promotion would be the ticket for putting him in the spotlight again.
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Yair
Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 10:39am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S2: Project Daedalus

@Mertov,

I agree Saru did not change permanently in "Si vis". My understanding was that the anger was already inside him (there was no good reason to be angry otherwise), and being without fear simply released it. So I'd have expected Saru to feel that anger again once he was again released (this time permanently) from that fear. Judging from the dialogue he doesn't feel that anger or any need to repress anything beyond the usual (Saru being quite good at repressing emotions like fear and pain already), and that is why I argued "dropped plot thread".

If I am reading you right, you are arguing Saru needed to learn how to control aggression and anger specifically, and he might not have been able to handle them otherwise?
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