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Norvo
Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 9:20am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Alter Ego

Looking back on the episode, I can't help but notice how similar the actual Maryana looks to the Hirogen. Her species was never identified in the episode, but the resemblance is striking (plus we never saw a female Hirogen). Given the fact they're a nomadic species used to living in isolation, it would be a neat little retcon... even though it makes little sense for them to maintain the nebula. Why would a hunter race care about what comes down to a tourist attraction?
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ovadul
Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 8:08am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Blood Fever

"She bit me"
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Skavvle
Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 1:04pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tattoo

@Elliot (not Elliott)

Just wanted to remind you that you could have used any other name to avoid confusion. You didn't have to call yourself Elliot. lol.

Also, again, this episode is not good.
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Skeeves
Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 12:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Cathexis

@Elliott

'EMH: Needless to say, it was a remarkable procedure. I would consider writing a paper about it if there were a convenient forum in which to publish it.'

I think you did that. lol. You are an insane person, but keep it up.
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Virginia
Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 9:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: The Forgotten

I don't think that T'Pol's reaction to Trip was so bland. It took a lot of effort for her to reach out and touch his shoulder in comfort. While she may not always cry tears-like she did when she went into the ready room after Archer leaves in the "Azati Prime" or when her Mum died in "Awakening"-you can tell she's overwhelmed when her voice breaks. It did here and when she told Archer she hadn't been able to meditate in "Damage". She couldn't tell him about her terellium addiction yet, but told Dr.Phlox.
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Ovadul
Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 5:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Symbiosis

I’d suggest to the people who don’t like this episode because it “incorrectly “ portrays the Prime Directive, or because Picard selectively applies it, or because “The Prime Directive is stupid” the following:

The Prime Directive had never, prior to this episode’s airdate, NEVER been described in the show in the amount of detail necessary to make your arguments valid, or invalid. As of the airing of this episode, to the extent the PD has been defined at all, it has been defined for expository purposes, I.e., by Kirk in Bread and Circuses.

Who Watchers the Watchers and the episode First Contact finally gave us more detail. But those episodes of course cam after the this one.

Also, in reality, a corollary to “Just Say No” was that, if you did not say no, too bad f o you, you are weak and you should be incarcerated. This episode did not blindly parrot Nancy Reagan; taken as a whole the episode was somewhat sympathetic to the Ornarans, definitely vis a vis the Brekkians. The episode, to me, was more of an indictment of the untrammeled capitalist mentality that allowed the symbiotic relationship to flourish In the first place.

I realIze my comments go against Official Interpretive Orthodoxy.
So maybe I should be stoned



No pun intended
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Ovadul
Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 1:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Symbiosis

Words matter and so do numbers. The Yark speech to Wesley was maybe 2 1/2 minutes long. The problem with the exchange was not so much the dialogue as is the fact the dialogue was being exchanged between what were the show's two weakest characters at that point (and hardly the two best actors).

The Prime Directive, earlier in the season (I am thinking of "Justice" in particular) seemed to be used as a way of hamstringing the crew, for the sake of contriving drama (really? Not allowing Wesley to be executed, when the Edo basically told the Enterprise it could beam away with Wesley in tow and the world would go on, was interference with a developing world's beliefs? It was, as Picard said in a later episode, imposing a set of commandments on the Edo? Please). Here the Prime Directive was used with a nod toward reality and sanity. The Ornarans asked for help to install the coil. The show never told us what the exact contours of the Prime Directive were, but providing the installation help didn't seem an infraction. Later discovery of additional facts caused Picard to realize that "non-interference" as a principle was best-served by doing nothing and letting the parties stew in their own juices. The execution may have been wanting, but the premise here was sound enough
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Mertov
Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 1:54am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

"This was the most enjoyable 15 minutes of Trek I've had in decades."

Not sure about "the" most but definitely up there Yanks. Plus, the bonus of seeing the origin story of Spock's first time on Enterprise.
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Dave in MN
Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 7:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

The first Short Trek was just released ....

Why is the turbolift a roller coaster instead of a vertical shaft?

What's the deal with all cavernous empty space in the ship?

They really needed an expert rock climber to save them? How could they design their turbolifts this way and have no contingency to rescue people .... unless you consider using THE TRANSPORTER!!! Bad scripting!!!!

Why is Spock so emotional?!

Yikes, this was .... not good.
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Provider of Answers
Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 12:21am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: A Simple Investigation

@ Booming, I like it " Provider of Answers". Great title, thanks!
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Mertov
Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 12:06am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Bound

This episode is a lot of things but I disagree with Jammer that it's boring. It's dismal, badly written, sexist, need-a-whiskey-to-get-through-it type of episode, but definitely not boring. I chuckled throughout the episode.

But Holy Moly !!!! It's amazing what a chore it is to do even do a rerun of Enterprise. I began this rerun 2018 summer and it has been struggle to get myself motivated to watch an episode here and there. Easily the worst Trek of the franchise (relatively speaking of course, I still watched every episode when it originally aired, gladly). I couldn't even get my energy up to comment (not sure if I did or not). Even seasons 3 and 4, they are fine seasons in that they pick up the storylines, the pace, and thankfully get into more serialized story telling, but even those two seasons are above average and nothing wrong compared to the rest of the franchise.

Anyhow, five episodes left, I believe... I think I'll make it to the end by next month!
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ovaduh
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 3:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Memorial

It is, as Spock said, "arrogant presumption" on Janeway's part to believe that other races encountering the memorial will learn the same lesson That Violence is Awful, that the Voyager crew did.

This decision is up there with Archer's decision to preserve a lethal virus in "Extinction" in terms of the Star Trek writers' fixation with "We Must Remember the Past."

I keep thinking back to a far superior episode that allowed for The Past to Be Remembered in more thoughtful manner - that being the Voyager episode "Remember," in which B'Elanna ASKED someone's permission to share her (B'Elanna's) experiences as given to her by the older Enaran woman.

What, at the end of the day, did the Voyager characters learn in "Memorial" that they were not cognizant of, or supposed to be cognizant of, already? And why is it assumed that other races want to or should learn the same Moral Lessons Our Crew did?
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JC Lavoie
Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 4:43am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Virtuoso

The worst thing about this episode is that the Doctor is willing to leave Voyager without a surgeon. Tom Paris is a capable medic, but the EMH is the embodiment of 24th-century medicine. After everything they've done for him, he's willing to leave a crew of ~150 people to chase one fleeting love interest. This episode almost makes me lose any empathy I had for this character, and he's actually been one of my favorites because of his dry, witty humor. He's a hologram, he made a family once... What happened to them? If he wants a soulmate, he could ask the computer to make his holographic wife self-aware - if he even saved the program, that is. That leads me to wonder; His daughter died and his wife and son were distraught, did he abandon them too? Did he provide the emotional support they needed, or did he delete the program? How well do we really know the Doctor? I could go on, but I'd start digressing about his conduct in other episodes. He's still an interesting character, but this particular episode stinks. I much prefer the EMH's character development in episodes like Lifesigns. Lifesigns is one of the best episodes of the series. Danara Pel... now there was a real love for the Doctor. That was such a poignant episode, which is probably why I find Virtuoso so objectionable. Oh well, at least the singing is nice.
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Ovleist
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 9:05pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Treachery, Faith, and the Great River

I think it actually was "The river will provide."
Folowing canon as an end unto itself has precisely zero normative value. I can't fathom the mindset which offers as a virtue (the only virtue), "Well, this movie was terrible but at least it followed canon." Or worse! "This movie was grear because it followed canon (and for no other reason)."


One person's "You must follow canon" is another person's "attempt at censorship."
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Ovleist
Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 8:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Treachery, Faith, and the Great River

Ny favorite Nog line of all time was from this episode:
The river provides.

Rest in peace, Aron Einsenberg.
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ovadohr
Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 9:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: And the Children Shall Lead

Second for second, this episode had the least entertainment value of any TOS episode. Its dullness is matched only by its sheer dopeyness and vice versa. I actually hope the reason Melvin Belii was cast because someone owed him a favor. If he was hired on the basis of his “acting ability,” you just have to wonder.

When the show is not being boring, awkward, stilted, and repetitive (and when it is, come to think about it), it’s being offensively stupid. As in McCoy’s clueless grin at the end.

Belli has feathers in his hair and feathers in his head
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Alvez
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 10:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges

How cool would it have been if Commander Sela, Tasha Yar's offspring from the "Yesterday's Enterprise" alternate timeline, whom we haven't seen since TNG's Unification popped up in this episode. Even cooler if she was somehow connected to Section 31...
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Alvez
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 10:28pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Preemptive Strike

Two more things:

1) Will Riker's disguise as a Bajoran is far-fetched. As the First Officer of the Federation Flagship he would be very recognizable, even with nose ridges.

2) It would be cool if Ro turns up in the PICARD series!
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Alvez
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 10:25pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Preemptive Strike

It is interesting that the Marquis episodes in the last season of TNG and the second season of DS9 were designed to set up Voyager, but are actually more interesting than any of the Voyager Maquis episodes, perhaps with the exception of Repression.

I thought it would have been interesting if Ro had become part of Chakotay’s crew and wound up as a regular on Voyager, (like O’Brien moving from TNG to DS9) but that likely would have taken B’Elanna’s place and they probably didn’t want a major Bajoran character on two series airing at the same time...
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Norvo
Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 12:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Equinox, Part II

One big gaping plothole: in Equinox part I it was established Ransom needed to kill over 60 more aliens to get home. He got away from Voyager with one dead alien, but his ship is still falling apart. How will they succesfully harvest dozens of aliens without getting destroyed?
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Hovav
Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 4:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Hatchery

Not a bad episode but the ending left a hollow feeling - just not the payout that I was expecting and in the end it's all a bit of a copout.

The real story here is the decision of the crew to mutiny, how they go about it. It's pretty clear Archer's gone off the deep end with respect to the Enterprise's mission shortly after he orders the anti-matter to the Xindi ship.

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Dave in MN
Sun, Sep 1, 2019, 10:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

I don't think we need to worry about it changing a bunch. They might push the envelope slightly more here and there with storytelling options, but Tom Cosentino has been pretty consistent in saying the show isn't going to be drastically changing its vibe.
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Steve
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 11:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Tears of the Prophets

@P
Jadzia had to stay on DS9 because Sisko made it clear in “Change of Heart” that Worf and Jadzia would never again be assigned to the same mission. This may also explain why Kira took command of the Defiant instead of Worf, who had been stripped of command duties. He would later, though, command the Defiant again in Season 7.
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VEK
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 2:54pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: In the Pale Moonlight

I think this episode was perfect except for one thing. The whole "I need to clear it with starfleet command" thing. It lets Sisko off the hook a bit for what happens.
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The River Temarc
Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 1:52pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Silicon Avatar

The problem with this episode is not that it presents a moral dilemma. Done well, moral dilemmas make great fodder for Star Trek. The issue is the execution.

First, the crew never really pinpointed the heart of the matter: whether the Crystalline Entity was sentient, and thus could be not only communicated with but reasoned with, or whether it really was (1) sentient but evil, or (2) a sperm whale instinctually feeding on cuttlefish.

If you're in the former territory, Picard has a justifiable stance. If you're in the latter territory, killing the Crystalline Entity is justified. Planets with intelligent life aren't cuttlefish. And park rangers kill bears that have mauled humans. (To be clear, Picard explicitly stated that "it may be necessary to kill" the Crystalline Entity, so clearly he's contemplated the latter territory.)

Second, Marr's character came off as a mustache-twirler from the get-go with her threats to disassemble Data. Moral dilemmas work well when each side can make a credible case (see "Ethics" for a good example), even if one viewpoint ultimately prevails (e.g., "Drumhead"). That's the opposite of mustache-twirling.

If we wanted someone to truly critique Picard, either Marr or another character needed to delve into the heart of the matter above. (Troi would have been the obvious choice; in "I, Borg," she observed that there were no civilians among the Borg. And Guinan did the same thing.) The inexplicable choice to focus the first third of the episode on boring scenes set in caves left no time to cut to the chase.

Third, you can't ignore the fact that "Silicon Avatar" is a sequel to "Datalore," and that ultimately is what undercuts Picard's position here; "Datalore" strongly suggests that the entity knows what it's doing.

So in sum: potentially interesting dilemmas spoiled by poor execution and a one-sided antagonist. "Silicon Avatar" is no hidden gem.
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