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Turch
Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 10:40am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

@ Peter G.

I have! Admittedly, it's been a couple years, though, and I haven't done any rewatches, still trying to work my way through Enteprise after having finished DS9.

I think you're right that the quandary I have is more with the way I choose to interpret time travel versus the way the show chooses to present it, but that is probably my problem! Maybe a full rewatch will help put things in perspective for me.
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Turch
Mon, Nov 2, 2020, 9:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Yesterday's Enterprise

I have a pickle with this episode that I have never seen anyone else mention and it makes me so bothered!

If the time incident happened 20 years ago, why was there ever an 'original' timeline to begin with? The Enterprise-D should have always been a war vessel - and it should have only been when they sent the ship back in time that time 'changed'.

The timeline we know wasn't 'restored' it was created! How can the timeline 'change' when something from the past is brought into the future? There was no timeline in the first place!

I really don't mind the elements within the episode, and I actually like the way Guinan is used here. I'm not normally bothered by time inconsistencies (of which Star Trek has many), but this one seems to rub me the wrong way.

What, exactly, are we restoring, when the conclusion of this episode already happened twenty years ago? I suppose I wouldn't have that much of an issue with this if it were handled differently. See the episode from the Enterprise-C's perspective:

Normal events happen, and then the Enterprise-C jumps through a wormhole. They are grateful to escape certain doom by arriving 20 years in the future. One of the characters on board the Enterprise-D notes that the Enterprise-C's absence is a critical event which results in the war with the Klingons. They see a brighter future if the Enterprise-C returns to their demise.

Seeing this from the Enterprise-D's perspective, we have some notion that the Enterprise-C's presence has "changed" the present timeline (which we know to be false). In fact, the Enterprise-D is the one which changes the course of history, by demanding that the Enterprise-C alter the past.

A thoughtprovoking situation might be Hitler travelling 70 years into the future and avoiding ever causing WWII, resulting (via the butterfly effect) in a nuclear wasteland. The remainders of European government send him back through time to 'fix' the broken future, but in doing so cause the suffering and genocide of a peoples! Truly a gray and no-right-answer scenario.

I think partway through this rant I have grown to appreciate YE a lot more. I do think it has a problem with how it presents the time changes, but I appreciate the moral quandary at hand a little bit better. Still, I can't help but feel that there is too heavy a focus on 'restoring' a timeline which had never existed in the first place. Who are we to say what the correct timeline is? Did the Enterprise-D salvage the Federation at the expense of lives lost elsewhere in the world? We may never know, but surely such time-meddling should be forbidden.

Timetravelling to the future can never meddle with destiny, but the Enterprise-D did so outright by sending the Enterprise-C back in time, in my opinion, a clear violation of the temporal prime directive (probably).
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