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Trajan
Fri, Feb 16, 2018, 12:49pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Firestorm

I laughed out loud at the Captain warning them (when searching for the clown) to watch out for balloon animals.

The humour seemed less forced in this one.
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Trajan
Fri, Feb 9, 2018, 1:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Cupid's Dagger

@kapages

"f I am invited to a place where my physical voice is considered super sexy and women throw themselves at me, I will not warn them in advance"

What if they throw themselves at you because your voice is so super sexy that they are *unable* to stop themselves?

The Commander went to the lab to tell the blue man that their previous affair was a mistake. She only 'changed her mind' because he'd touched her.

I was a bit 'meh' about the humour (other than the elevator) but the moral questions raised were quite interesting even if, as I suspect, they were merely peripheral when a comedy episode was written and it was just the timing of boadcast that raised awareness.
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Trajan
Mon, Jan 1, 2018, 4:32pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: About a Girl

@Jason R
It's from tribune, the official in the classical world. Strictly, the 'tri' doesn't mean three; originally there were ten tribunes in the Roman system. Standard usage in English law usually implies a bench of three but I, too, have argued before a tribunal of one. I confess I wasn't enrtirely serious in my comment but the greater point is that I dislike attempts to design an 'alien' legal system which then ignores any principle of justice.
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Trajan
Fri, Dec 29, 2017, 1:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: About a Girl

I quite liked this one. I particularly like the arguments about it in this thread - good points raised and discussed. Two things occurred to me while watching it:

1 How did it happen that females are reviled? If there is genuinely only one female born every 75 years or so, isn't it also possible that they would be feted by society?

2 It's called a tribunal when there are *three* sitting in judgement, not just when you want something to sound 'legalese'.

No, I'm not commenting on the rest of the legal stuff. I said enough under 'Measure of a Man'.
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Trajan
Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 11:14am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Command Performance

I quite liked this one. More than I liked the pilot, actually. I didn't find the 'rookie' plot too cliched. The Orville isn't the flagship, it's basically a delivery truck so if the top three officers are otherwise engaged, there is an excellent chance that the next in line for command is going to be very inexperienced. I also appreciated that she was so nervous she threw up (I took that as a touch of realism as it wasn't explicitly played for laughs. ) That could be where it distinguishes itself from the Star Trek parent where everyone was generally so heroic about assuming extra responsibilities.

I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Trajan
Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 2:43pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Old Wounds

The pilot finally aired on Fox in the UK.

It was OK. Good enough to persuade me to watch the next episode, not good enough for me to want to offer loads of comment. I do understand what Outsider65 means and 'm inclined to agree.

I'll see what next week brings.

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Trajan
Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 1:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Old Wounds

The show has just been picked up by Fox Channel in the UK. No air dates yet.
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Trajan
Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 1:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

@Chrome

You make a good point. It just seemed to me that although Satie boasts about her prowess she lets her 'team' do all the legal heavy lifting.

There seems to be a lot of precedent in Starfleet (in all series) for putting officers into a courtroom and expecting them to perform as legal officers. I didn't see Satie as being any different- just rather better at raising her profile as a result.
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Trajan
Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 3:54pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

For those who found Satie's rant difficult to believe, I was once in a real court and saw something similar happen. The accused was defending in person and when his theatrical case was derailed with derision by a (grizzled store detective) witness, he lost the plot. It was hugely entertaining.

Incidentally, has anyone ever had qualms about serving on board with a Betazoid? They don't seem to have any code of ethics about reading your mind as and when it suits them. Is there no general expectation of privacy in Starfleet?
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Trajan
Sun, May 21, 2017, 2:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Who Watches the Watchers

@Lupe

Pretty sure that's a sub-paragraph of the same regulation!

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Trajan
Thu, May 18, 2017, 2:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Who Watches the Watchers

@Lupe

"though, oh, Lord how many times did it happen over the years in Trek?"

LOL. I know! You'd think there would be some kind of regulation to prevent them from interfering, deliberately or accidentally, with a less developed civilisation, wouldn't you? They could call it a Directive of some kind...
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Trajan
Tue, May 2, 2017, 3:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: ANDR S2: Second Season Recap

@Baron Samedi You should receive an award for not only sitting through all of it but actually writing about it, too!

I watched it all when it first aired here in the UK. I don't remember the timeslot but I do know that we only watched later series to poke fun at it after the quality disappeared early. The final season was utterly incoherent, ill conceived, badly acted and very, very funny if you watched it after consuming a few drinks. 'She's who?' 'Why does he look different?' 'Do you want more ice with your scotch?'

All I really know is that the original premise was promising. A ship that's 300 years old but, now retrieved, is the most powerful ship around has changed the balance of power in a universe that's basically run by Chicago gangsters. And the captain is an idealist so what's he going to do? Particularly interesting is that the universe is a big place so while the ship is the biggest and baddest wherever it happens to be, it can't be everywhere at once.

What a waste of a good concept!

Oh, and the other thing I recall is that I was once in a hotel bar in Toronto and one of the staff looked just like Rommie. (It wasn't her!)

I can't think why remembering this programme makes me thirsty...
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Trajan
Thu, Feb 2, 2017, 2:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

And please, please could we have Admirals who aren't complete idiots?

And, while I'm at it, senior officers who act like they're competent officers and don't all just look to the acknowledged 'genius' on board to solve all of their problems. (I'm not singling out dear Wesley though he is, of course, a notorious example.)

I think the problem with the setting they've chosen is that some characterisations are already set (like Sarek) so, as someone mentioned above, the parameters for storytelling are restricted far more than would have been the case with setting it after the Dominion War.

Finally, a high five to @Omicron... for the reference to the bloody A,B,C orD. It made me laugh.
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Trajan
Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 1:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Lower Decks

Maybe- despite accurately reading the emotions of everyone at the table- Troi was simply really bad at poker?

'Riker is bluffing. Now's my chance! Um....is a pair of threes good?'
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Trajan
Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 1:06pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Lower Decks

This episode has just screened again tonight here in the UK. I must say that I like it more each time I see it. As Jammer said, the inter-cutting of the poker games is inspired. I still have to hide behind the sofa when Lavelle 'makes friends' with Riker in the bar.

What I like the most is that we finally see the 'real' characters of the senior staff. Their faults have been mostly airbrushed in the series- mostly implied rather than shown- but here we see what it really takes to command a starship in a dangerous universe and what it mens to serve under them.

(By the way, has someone been feeding the trolls??)
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Trajan
Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 5:24pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery

I already pay a small fortune for subscription tv here in the UK ( as free to air is just reality shows and soaps and a tiny scattering of quality) and I'm not shelling out more to Netflix for an unknown standard of new Trek. Sorry. If it turns out to be utterly brilliant I'll just buy the DVD.

The business model of stuffing everything they think will be popular on a subscription only channel is going to backfire because of their own practice of pulling stuff from the schedules if it isn't immediately a hit. How many new shows have you started watching only to discover they've been cancelled? Maybe I'm just old and grumpy but I've had enough of large corporations dipping into my pocket only to offer a substandard or overpriced product. There's no guarantee of quality or longevity so I'll pass.

Thank you, I feel better now.

/Rant over.

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Trajan
Thu, Mar 31, 2016, 1:45pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Child

I remember mishearing when Pulaski was introduced. I thought she was introduced as 'Captain Doctor Pulaski' and I thought: oh excellent- they've introduced a very senior medic as chief medical officer on the flagship and, although she won't be able to interfere with the command structure, she will have the opportunity to influence things significantly because they will be obliged to respect her opinion on all matters. Then I realised I'd misheard and she wasn't a captain at all and then she turned out to be a one-dimensional character who never got enough development. I'm not surprised she polarises opinion. It's a shame the actress never got the opportunity to cut loose with the character.
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Trajan
Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 4:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The First Duty

@Chrome

Good point. I didn't consider that. Now when I see the episode I won't spend most of it thinking: 'Hang on a minute...'

Thank you!
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Trajan
Fri, Mar 18, 2016, 11:38am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The First Duty

I usually loathe courtroom dramas but I thought this one was plausibly done. The only slight issue I have with the episode as a whole is this:

Imagine that the rehearsal went well and nobody died and they performed the starburst at the ceremony. It's still a forbidden manoeuvre, isn't it? Did they think that the Academy authorities would cheer wildly and tell them it didn't matter? Or would they be up in front of an Inquiry on charges of being so stupid?
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Trajan
Thu, Dec 3, 2015, 4:06pm (UTC -5)
Re: New Trek Series Coming in 2017

Lots of interesting ideas here. I particularly like the Hill St Blues model- I think that would suit the ST universe. The mix of ongoing arcs and plotlines resolved within one episode was a hallmark of HSB. Consider (and I'm making these up based on HSB), Renko and Bobby chase and catch a felon from an unexpected sighting to collar (one ep), Frank argues with his boss (recurring but not sequential eps), the DA prosecutes a crime boss where several of the cast have to give evidence (multi ep arc) and there is a possiblilty of the precinct closing due to budget cuts (whole series). That kind of mix applied to ST would give many of you what you want without alienating the others.

Of course, some will say that tries to be all things to all aliens and fails on all counts...
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Trajan
Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 12:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: New Trek Series Coming in 2017

Maybe they're using the subscription model so that they don't live or die by the ratings. So many series I have watched end up cancelled without plot resolution because the great god of advertising revenue deems it so.

Using the subscription model would mean they retain creative control and don't get pestered by the network to change it into something else in an attempt to shore up the viewing figures and please advertisers.

Those of us who don't live in the US will have to hope it gets picked up by a local broadcaster, of course.

As for the likely quality of the show, I'll wait to be pleasantly surprised. Maybe. ("Episode One: Spock's Other Brain")
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Trajan
Wed, Jun 17, 2015, 1:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Measure of a Man

I've just caught up with this discussion following my original comments from years ago. I still hate the episode but appreciate that I'm in the minority. Incidentally, I liked the suggestion of using the Vulcan neck pinch on Riker. Much kinder than my earlier suggestion of a baseball bat!

I didn't know the writer of the ep. was a lawyer. One day I'd like to have a discussion with her as to the fairest form of judicial system for a post-scarcity society. However, I'll refrain from commenting on Measure of a Man again.

Anyone interested in alternative depictions of future legal systems could do worse than to check out Frank Herbert's 'The Dosadi Experiment' which always appealed to me when I was practising.
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Trajan
Wed, Jun 17, 2015, 12:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: E2

@Capitalist

I believe you. To those of us from the Thirtieth Century your exploits are legendary.

Which is more than I can say for this episode of ENT.
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Trajan
Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 3:32pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Measure of a Man

X: You cannot turn off a human completely, as you can turn off a machine, and then turn him on again.

Sure you can. Just don't be so enthusiastic with the baseball bat and knock him unconscious with it. (Which, in my courtroom, will still get you locked up for grievous bodily harm...)
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Trajan
Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 3:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Measure of a Man

Dave Neilsen: Since Data's sentience was the question here, Riker couldn't be charged with anything for turning Data off so that would be perfectly fine to do in a courtroom.

I disagree. You could 'turn off' an alleged human being with a baseball bat but it would produce no more evidence of his sentience than Data's off switch does of his.
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