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Tokeiihto
Tue, Mar 8, 2011, 5:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Someone to Watch Over Me

Yeah, but neither has he the enticing body of Torres and Seven of Nine or the cuteness of Kes, nor the wit of the Doctor or the exotic looks and annoying habits of Neelix. He is, or better was, just to bland to take part at the tactical meetings (but enough to be killed off unceremoniously).

Janeway and Chakotay certainly discussed his case at their habitual dinners in the captain's quarter:

C: By the way Kathryn, shouldn't we assign more demanding chores to Chapman? Transfer him to the bridge or perhaps the engine room. He's a Lt. after all and his file is flawless.

J: I know. I know. He is damn fine Star Fleet officer. He's just so ... so boring. Even Tuvok seems social and fun when compared to him. Honestly I rather fight the the Borg in a shuttle without shields and a broken warp drive than sharing the room with Mr. ... Mr. ...

C: Chapman.

J: ... than with Mr. Chapman longer than two minutes if you understand what I mean. I don't know, Chakotay. Best we keep things as they are right now. We can discuss this in a year again. What do you think?

C: It's your decision. You're the captain.
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Tokeiihto
Tue, Feb 8, 2011, 6:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: The Disease

Fantastic review to an absolute underwhelming 45 minutes of awfulness. I second the notion above that your witty write-up was far more entertainung than the actual episode.

In my opinion you not even had to include yourself as an one of the interviewed who speaks his mind for your point hit home nonetheless.

The Seven of Nine and Torres bits are especially brilliant.
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Tokeiihto
Tue, Feb 8, 2011, 3:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Someone to Watch Over Me

Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification.

I guess Push the Reset Button [TM] is another of these Voyager typical trademarks.
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Tokeiihto
Tue, Feb 8, 2011, 11:55am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Someone to Watch Over Me

I agree totally that balancing the different elements is probably the most important thing when creating an interesting, riveting series. I don't like to watch a soap opera in space either.
But then the success has always lain in the qualitative depiction of human drama. If you think about it, even the most famous, celebrated works in our culture (take Sakespeare's oeuvre for instance) can be reduced to that basics if it weren't for the sophisticated manner in which it's presented. In the end it's not so much about the topic - there are actually only a couple of different themes (love, hate, friendship, trust among them) that get varied over and over again, put in the different context etc. - but the execution. And the setting doesn't should limit what themes and issues can be tackled by the authors.

That said I agree that a series (or film) set in the future should address specific (theoretical) problems of that time - but in a way I, as the viewer, can relate to. Interstellar combat, exploration of the unknown (of the final frontier, har har.) is fine by me, as long the characters, the stories are engaging. After all not the space battles and enduring hostilities between the different races made DS9 (and perhaps to a lesser degree TNG) so great but the interactions of the characters (and of course the intelligent subtext often present in many episodes).

Regarding your question, Micheal, I utterly agree with the first sentences. I don't agree with the second, at leat when such a relationship is handle subtle and has real significance (which, alas, in Voyager it hadn't).

I'd like to add that I hope I haven't insulted you with my last post. After rereading it today it seems more aggressiv than I originally intended it to be. As I said, it wasn't your opinion but the over and over repeated sentiment that prompted me to write a reply. But then I probably shouldn't have read so many reviews in such s short period if time I guess. *g*

BTW: For English is not my native tongue, could someone please explain the use of [TM] (Trademark?)in the text/comments to me. I have a rough idea what it could mean but I'm not completely sure.
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Tokeiihto
Mon, Feb 7, 2011, 2:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Someone to Watch Over Me

@Michael:

Oh please. By now I've read at least half a dozen comments in which you endlessy complain whenever Voyager episodes turned attentionen to moral subtext, insightful characterisation and/or introspective relationship aspects - which unfortunately wasn't that often anyway, at least not in a sophisticated, engaging and therefore successful manner.

It may come as a surprise to you but Star Trek at its heart has always been about character interactions, about human (even with sometimes not so human beings) drama and ethical issues set against a sci-fi backdrop. How boring and shallow a show/franchise it were if devoid of such themes? Themes we actually can relate to? If it wouldn't tackle topics we as indivuduals or as a whole society have to face constantly (or from time to time at any rate)? That, on some level, actually matter?

Oh, and dealing with such things has nothing to do with going all 'Friends' (or 'Oprah' as you put it in another comment). I mean, how old are you? Space battles and explosions, unintelligible techno-babble. Gosh ...

On a second thought let me ask you one question. What would "interaction with vastly different species" be about? How to increase the Warp drive efficiency? How to better compensate fluctuation in the shield emitter. Which race forms a temporarily allience with whom to battle which opposing alien force?


I wouldn't have minded if you stated your opinion once or twice but since nearly every commentary of yours expressed that sentiment I quite strongly felt compelled to speak my mind.
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