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Re: VOY S7: Body and Soul
Loved it. loved it. loved it!
This may be among the best episodes all-time of all shows.
The look the Doctor gave Seven in the final seconds....priceless!
Loved it. loved it. loved it!
This may be among the best episodes all-time of all shows.
The look the Doctor gave Seven in the final seconds....priceless!
Re: VOY S7: Inside Man
I am with some who felt the ending was somewhat unsatisfying.
For example, I like my characters in a story to have any hoax, deceptions, or naughty things done to them explained and cleared up at the end.
Nor do I like loose ends not covered in some way. I suppose we can always use the rule of assumptions to cover such things but if there are too many holes...the story gets too piecemmeally (is that a word?). Gotta check on that.
Not too bad. it had some good moments. Seven is so gorgeous!
I am with some who felt the ending was somewhat unsatisfying.
For example, I like my characters in a story to have any hoax, deceptions, or naughty things done to them explained and cleared up at the end.
Nor do I like loose ends not covered in some way. I suppose we can always use the rule of assumptions to cover such things but if there are too many holes...the story gets too piecemmeally (is that a word?). Gotta check on that.
Not too bad. it had some good moments. Seven is so gorgeous!
Re: VOY S6: Child's Play
I remember a certain someone saying
"The needs of the many outway the needs of the few, or in this case, the one"
However in that case it was his decision, in this case it was not. Inconsistencies with the borg not withstanding, any civilisation facing potential annihilation will use ANY means necessary to prolong that civilisation.
I remember a certain someone saying
"The needs of the many outway the needs of the few, or in this case, the one"
However in that case it was his decision, in this case it was not. Inconsistencies with the borg not withstanding, any civilisation facing potential annihilation will use ANY means necessary to prolong that civilisation.
Re: VOY S7: Repression
I for one, enjoy reading the comments of these long-ago posters almost as much as watching the show. I am impressed at the debating and analytical abilities of these people!
Not to belabor some of my own past points (about giving a littIe slack to the writers), I thought this episode was at least interesting. I too, criticize ST at times but it really has to be off the wall for me to severely pan an episode.....or maybe I am getting soft in my old age.
Here's a beef for this episode....not enough Seven!
I for one, enjoy reading the comments of these long-ago posters almost as much as watching the show. I am impressed at the debating and analytical abilities of these people!
Not to belabor some of my own past points (about giving a littIe slack to the writers), I thought this episode was at least interesting. I too, criticize ST at times but it really has to be off the wall for me to severely pan an episode.....or maybe I am getting soft in my old age.
Here's a beef for this episode....not enough Seven!
Re: VOY S7: Unimatrix Zero, Part II
@ Momofsix
Well said on your main point. Especially when you measure these episodes against a lot of the material out today.
@ Momofsix
Well said on your main point. Especially when you measure these episodes against a lot of the material out today.
Re: VOY S7: Drive
Oops my name should be Tim-1 (above)....got to pay attention to my editing.
While I am here I have to admit that I had thought Paris and B'leanna were already married. I have never been a big fan of B'elanna, but her acting and the situation of her character softened me to her a bit in this episode.
Oops my name should be Tim-1 (above)....got to pay attention to my editing.
While I am here I have to admit that I had thought Paris and B'leanna were already married. I have never been a big fan of B'elanna, but her acting and the situation of her character softened me to her a bit in this episode.
Re: VOY S7: Imperfection
From my perspective, I will put it as succinctly as I can. whenever I get tears in my eyes from a program it is definitely a home run episode!!!!!!!!!!
From my perspective, I will put it as succinctly as I can. whenever I get tears in my eyes from a program it is definitely a home run episode!!!!!!!!!!
Re: VOY S6: The Haunting of Deck Twelve
My problem with this episode....or rather my puzzlement, is how can those children (Borg children no less) that have been assimilated into the BORG....one of the most terrifying bad guys in the universe, and now living aboard the danger-of-getting-in-danger-a-minute Voyager....be afraid of the dark?
Seven is near Grace Park level beauty.
My problem with this episode....or rather my puzzlement, is how can those children (Borg children no less) that have been assimilated into the BORG....one of the most terrifying bad guys in the universe, and now living aboard the danger-of-getting-in-danger-a-minute Voyager....be afraid of the dark?
Seven is near Grace Park level beauty.
Re: VOY S6: Alice
I can only say that if I were in Tom Paris' place and the female pilot manifested itself as Grace Park I would have done anything, went anywhere, she asked!
Miss Battlestar Galactica........All those Number eights!
I can only say that if I were in Tom Paris' place and the female pilot manifested itself as Grace Park I would have done anything, went anywhere, she asked!
Miss Battlestar Galactica........All those Number eights!
Re: VOY S6: Muse
To be or not to be!
@Ken Egervari (very belatedly)
If I may address one of your concerns of why Voyager goes-a-exploring along the way, I have a real life example about the famous BOUNTY vessel, in which Fletcher Christian led a mutiny and Put Captain Bligh and twenty of his crew adrift in a 21 foot launch in the Pacific ocean. Too long to relate the entire story here of course, but Bligh managed to sail in that little open boat over 3600 miles to safety with the loss of just ONE man! The point here is that in spite of the sheer terror of their predicament, Bligh still drew maps, charted islands, studied and recorded new plant and animal species, measured coastlines, etc.
You see....he was a commander but also a professional...a scientist. This type of professionalism was and is today expected conduct of the true professional. Contrast that with Captain Edwards....the man charged with bringing in the mutineers.... Edwards just sailed to and from the island of Tahiti (near where the Mutiny took place) without so much as a look out his cabin window....and lost his ship to boot!
This episode is interesting, but for my personal reflections it was marred by having one of my least favorite characters in Torres.
In a way, after reading through the past comments I wonder if even some of the most serious detractors of this show might have all written more favorable reviews if they had known what was in store for the future of this great show. After Voyager and then Enterprise, there was the drought and then this travesty of an imitation called ST Discovery (my apologies to those that may like this show). For me, I have the rest of the series (VOYAGER) to view for the wonderfully first time!! So even if there is a less than great episode I will probably rate it as a work of a modern Shakespeare!
To be or not to be!
@Ken Egervari (very belatedly)
If I may address one of your concerns of why Voyager goes-a-exploring along the way, I have a real life example about the famous BOUNTY vessel, in which Fletcher Christian led a mutiny and Put Captain Bligh and twenty of his crew adrift in a 21 foot launch in the Pacific ocean. Too long to relate the entire story here of course, but Bligh managed to sail in that little open boat over 3600 miles to safety with the loss of just ONE man! The point here is that in spite of the sheer terror of their predicament, Bligh still drew maps, charted islands, studied and recorded new plant and animal species, measured coastlines, etc.
You see....he was a commander but also a professional...a scientist. This type of professionalism was and is today expected conduct of the true professional. Contrast that with Captain Edwards....the man charged with bringing in the mutineers.... Edwards just sailed to and from the island of Tahiti (near where the Mutiny took place) without so much as a look out his cabin window....and lost his ship to boot!
This episode is interesting, but for my personal reflections it was marred by having one of my least favorite characters in Torres.
In a way, after reading through the past comments I wonder if even some of the most serious detractors of this show might have all written more favorable reviews if they had known what was in store for the future of this great show. After Voyager and then Enterprise, there was the drought and then this travesty of an imitation called ST Discovery (my apologies to those that may like this show). For me, I have the rest of the series (VOYAGER) to view for the wonderfully first time!! So even if there is a less than great episode I will probably rate it as a work of a modern Shakespeare!
Re: VOY S6: Live Fast and Prosper
I'm with Chris P (although years belatedly lol) in that Voyager got their butt kicked in an episode that built it's plot with the premise that Voyager had the superior ship.
Then again, I would say that no other version of Star Trek....had their ship's butt handed to them more often than Voyager did.
I'm with Chris P (although years belatedly lol) in that Voyager got their butt kicked in an episode that built it's plot with the premise that Voyager had the superior ship.
Then again, I would say that no other version of Star Trek....had their ship's butt handed to them more often than Voyager did.
Re: VOY S6: Spirit Folk
@ Booming
That was hilarious!!
Yet I try to remember that as a whole, The Star Trek franchise, at it's worst is better than many programs on TV nowadays. Thank you for your post!
@ Booming
That was hilarious!!
Yet I try to remember that as a whole, The Star Trek franchise, at it's worst is better than many programs on TV nowadays. Thank you for your post!
Re: VOY S6: Spirit Folk
@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Thank you for the advice. It sounds interesting and I will look forward to exploring this hopeful option!!
@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Thank you for the advice. It sounds interesting and I will look forward to exploring this hopeful option!!
Re: VOY S6: Spirit Folk
Ever since Far point I believed that the holo-deck technology was too advanced even in the warp-drive age. It seems too imbalanced (especially looking backward to all the impossible scenarios that occurred). In this regard it seemed closer to a fantasy element than a science fiction one. Many good stories were written with it but a lot of times you had to stretch your patience and credibility and look the other way. A lot of times in Star Trek the ship (in any series) would run into the vastly superior, smarter, or more evolved race. Buy hey!....we got this holo-deck stuff that can bring people to self awareness and we can make weapons out of thin air....just for starters! Now that is superior!
I like all the Star Treks, but I have a fonder appreciation for TOS and ENTERPRISE maybe because they had to deal with the dangers more by the seat of their pants in many ways. But I do love Voyager.
Sadly, I am midway through S-6 and getting closer to the end of the last virgin- viewing episodes of Star Trek as I have known it. I think I will start stretching them out...like a child making the candy last. Alas! I would apologize for the rambling post but then....I smile to myself and realize at this late date no one should mind.
Ever since Far point I believed that the holo-deck technology was too advanced even in the warp-drive age. It seems too imbalanced (especially looking backward to all the impossible scenarios that occurred). In this regard it seemed closer to a fantasy element than a science fiction one. Many good stories were written with it but a lot of times you had to stretch your patience and credibility and look the other way. A lot of times in Star Trek the ship (in any series) would run into the vastly superior, smarter, or more evolved race. Buy hey!....we got this holo-deck stuff that can bring people to self awareness and we can make weapons out of thin air....just for starters! Now that is superior!
I like all the Star Treks, but I have a fonder appreciation for TOS and ENTERPRISE maybe because they had to deal with the dangers more by the seat of their pants in many ways. But I do love Voyager.
Sadly, I am midway through S-6 and getting closer to the end of the last virgin- viewing episodes of Star Trek as I have known it. I think I will start stretching them out...like a child making the candy last. Alas! I would apologize for the rambling post but then....I smile to myself and realize at this late date no one should mind.
Re: VOY S6: Memorial
So Janeway allows brain-rape to continue. How wrong-headed can she get.
I love Voyager but this misguided decision should be a court martial offense.
So Janeway allows brain-rape to continue. How wrong-headed can she get.
I love Voyager but this misguided decision should be a court martial offense.
Re: VOY S6: Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy
Just one more thing....
This episode may win the prize for the worst looking bad-guy aliens.
They looked comparable to some 1960's episodes of Doctor Who.
Just one more thing....
This episode may win the prize for the worst looking bad-guy aliens.
They looked comparable to some 1960's episodes of Doctor Who.
Re: VOY S6: Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy
I loved this episode! Actually, any of the Doctor centric episodes are a hit with me, and this one had so many hilarious moments in it. Clearly, Seven and the Doctor are two of the best characters in all Star Trek!
I loved this episode! Actually, any of the Doctor centric episodes are a hit with me, and this one had so many hilarious moments in it. Clearly, Seven and the Doctor are two of the best characters in all Star Trek!
Re: VOY S6: Survival Instinct
It struck me....that I agree with one of the commenters above (EP) I believe, about B'elanna's rudeness. Allow me to expand EP's comment in proposing the difference between Seven of nine's personality and B'elanna's. Seven's personality is a product of a lifetime pursuit and implementation of scientific knowledge, logic, and perfection. when she was freed of the Borg she was liberated from dronedom but still retained the framework of the ideals and attitude-dna of what the Borg imparted to her....minus the character flaws, capriciousness, and pettiness warts of normal humans. She had to learn all over from scratch on how to be a human again. If her personality puts off people it is due to her encyclopiedic well to draw on....not the hang ups of an insecure snob.
In very short time Seven is making great strides in finding her human abilities to show feeling and compassion.
Unfortunately, while B'elanna is an excellent engineer, she remarkably seems to go out of her way to be a certified bitch. And look at all the practice she has at being human (well, at least humanoid..she is half Klingon) compared to the fetching Seven.
It struck me....that I agree with one of the commenters above (EP) I believe, about B'elanna's rudeness. Allow me to expand EP's comment in proposing the difference between Seven of nine's personality and B'elanna's. Seven's personality is a product of a lifetime pursuit and implementation of scientific knowledge, logic, and perfection. when she was freed of the Borg she was liberated from dronedom but still retained the framework of the ideals and attitude-dna of what the Borg imparted to her....minus the character flaws, capriciousness, and pettiness warts of normal humans. She had to learn all over from scratch on how to be a human again. If her personality puts off people it is due to her encyclopiedic well to draw on....not the hang ups of an insecure snob.
In very short time Seven is making great strides in finding her human abilities to show feeling and compassion.
Unfortunately, while B'elanna is an excellent engineer, she remarkably seems to go out of her way to be a certified bitch. And look at all the practice she has at being human (well, at least humanoid..she is half Klingon) compared to the fetching Seven.
Re: VOY S6: Equinox, Part II
Captain Ahab.
Well, not as deep-rooted as that. But Janeway continues to puzzle me. Perhaps her nickname should be "The Curious Captain". Curious because her behavior is not consistent. For example Kirk and Picard had different approaches to their MO's but at least they had consistencies in their overall tendencies. Examples of her actions thus far, need not be repeated as all you commenters have covered it. Here, she goes all Ahab and hell-bent like the wrath of Kahn and even demotes Chakotay. In a way, it was a behavior reversal from what the Janeway/Chakotay duo would have acted like (or expected to act like) in the very beginning of the series. But you know, maybe by either accident or design, it may make Janeway more interesting....certainly more unique.
This episode had the usual head scratching moments and bad science, but what an exciting episode! I was head over heels (still am) with Grace Park in Battlestar Galactica. And now Seven of Nine graces (pun intended) Voyager.
Lots of respect for Chakotay in this one.
Captain Ahab.
Well, not as deep-rooted as that. But Janeway continues to puzzle me. Perhaps her nickname should be "The Curious Captain". Curious because her behavior is not consistent. For example Kirk and Picard had different approaches to their MO's but at least they had consistencies in their overall tendencies. Examples of her actions thus far, need not be repeated as all you commenters have covered it. Here, she goes all Ahab and hell-bent like the wrath of Kahn and even demotes Chakotay. In a way, it was a behavior reversal from what the Janeway/Chakotay duo would have acted like (or expected to act like) in the very beginning of the series. But you know, maybe by either accident or design, it may make Janeway more interesting....certainly more unique.
This episode had the usual head scratching moments and bad science, but what an exciting episode! I was head over heels (still am) with Grace Park in Battlestar Galactica. And now Seven of Nine graces (pun intended) Voyager.
Lots of respect for Chakotay in this one.
Re: VOY S5: Warhead
Apples are real life and oranges are fiction.
The above is what I always try to remember when watching any fiction tv show.
This episode clearly demonstrates what a sane captain would not do in a real-life situation. Firstly, Kim would not have the authority to make the call on anything as important as changing course of the ship. He is there only to pilot the ship and be a watchdog so the brass can rest. Real Captains train their subordinates to wake them in any important decision making.
Second, no captain in their right mind would be idiot enough to beam up a bomb of mass destruction, especially an alien one that they knew almost nothing about.
The safety of the crew and ship always comes first unless you are trying to defend your homes or allies in a war, etc.
Third. do you leave the decision to Kim?!! is this a democratic command? I am still scratching my head on this one. It is not of course, a big deal because shows like these are really about entertainment. However, as much as I try to give the writers a certain poetic license to make things work in a fifty minute episode, This one truly could have used just a little more believability. Still....a very entertaining episode!
Apples are real life and oranges are fiction.
The above is what I always try to remember when watching any fiction tv show.
This episode clearly demonstrates what a sane captain would not do in a real-life situation. Firstly, Kim would not have the authority to make the call on anything as important as changing course of the ship. He is there only to pilot the ship and be a watchdog so the brass can rest. Real Captains train their subordinates to wake them in any important decision making.
Second, no captain in their right mind would be idiot enough to beam up a bomb of mass destruction, especially an alien one that they knew almost nothing about.
The safety of the crew and ship always comes first unless you are trying to defend your homes or allies in a war, etc.
Third. do you leave the decision to Kim?!! is this a democratic command? I am still scratching my head on this one. It is not of course, a big deal because shows like these are really about entertainment. However, as much as I try to give the writers a certain poetic license to make things work in a fifty minute episode, This one truly could have used just a little more believability. Still....a very entertaining episode!
Re: VOY S5: 11:59
I am ashamed to say that this episode was so boring I stopped watching after the fender bender. I am usually easy on the Star Treks but there is an exception to every rule I suppose. Maybe the episode was decent and maybe I will actually finish it someday but I had I boredom meltdown here.
I am ashamed to say that this episode was so boring I stopped watching after the fender bender. I am usually easy on the Star Treks but there is an exception to every rule I suppose. Maybe the episode was decent and maybe I will actually finish it someday but I had I boredom meltdown here.
Re: VOY S5: Someone to Watch Over Me
Seven and the doctor's incredible duet "You are my Sunshine" is all that is necessary (to me) to add to the comments thus written.
One of the most beautiful women in the world and one of the most beloved people in Star Trek stole the show singing for about one minute!
They were simply put....Outstanding!
Jeri Ryan lifts everyone near her....can make a mediocre song sound like Beethoven, she make's everything lovely!
Seven and the doctor's incredible duet "You are my Sunshine" is all that is necessary (to me) to add to the comments thus written.
One of the most beautiful women in the world and one of the most beloved people in Star Trek stole the show singing for about one minute!
They were simply put....Outstanding!
Jeri Ryan lifts everyone near her....can make a mediocre song sound like Beethoven, she make's everything lovely!
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