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Re: ENT S4: Bound
Great episode, one of the best Enterprise eps. The girls were stunning and the reactions from the crew were believable. Quality twist that it's the Orion Men that are the real slaves - 4 stars.
Great episode, one of the best Enterprise eps. The girls were stunning and the reactions from the crew were believable. Quality twist that it's the Orion Men that are the real slaves - 4 stars.
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1
So, does anyone else think they’re not going to end with a new time at all by the finale? They spent so much time here with cheerful goodbyes. And yet, generally when a show explains to you in detail what will happen, something different happens. It’s the inverse of “The Unspoken Plan Guarantee” for those of you into TV Tropes. For starters, there’s no way Spock is getting stuck in the future even if he insists he’s going. Anyway, if I had to guess, something will change the current timeline but they’ll still be in the same pre-TOS period.
@Daya
Thank you for engaging everyone politely. I had half a mind to defend Alan, too. To be sure, he’s being snarky, but with the tone of some of the criticisms, I can sort of see his frustration. Let’s be true to Trek and keep things civil, all.
So, does anyone else think they’re not going to end with a new time at all by the finale? They spent so much time here with cheerful goodbyes. And yet, generally when a show explains to you in detail what will happen, something different happens. It’s the inverse of “The Unspoken Plan Guarantee” for those of you into TV Tropes. For starters, there’s no way Spock is getting stuck in the future even if he insists he’s going. Anyway, if I had to guess, something will change the current timeline but they’ll still be in the same pre-TOS period.
@Daya
Thank you for engaging everyone politely. I had half a mind to defend Alan, too. To be sure, he’s being snarky, but with the tone of some of the criticisms, I can sort of see his frustration. Let’s be true to Trek and keep things civil, all.
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1
@MadMenMUC.
"No question; but — if we're really honest with ourselves..."
Er, no because I prefer J J's Treks to Discovery. I like all three films.
@MadMenMUC.
"No question; but — if we're really honest with ourselves..."
Er, no because I prefer J J's Treks to Discovery. I like all three films.
Re: ENT S3: Chosen Realm
One of the reasons I liked this episode is that it deals with religious extremism and fundamentalism with the contempt it deserves. Watching back through Enterprise I'm shocked at how much more I'm enjoying it than Discovery.
One of the reasons I liked this episode is that it deals with religious extremism and fundamentalism with the contempt it deserves. Watching back through Enterprise I'm shocked at how much more I'm enjoying it than Discovery.
Re: ENT S2: Cogenitor
Attitudes to this episode seem to reflect one's own political opinion
If you agree with Trip, you're probably a lefty. Your moral position is the correct one as far as you're concerned and you have little tolerance for those who disagree. You have great sympathy with those who are disadvantaged and believe they should rise up against those who are oppressing them. The most important thing for you is equality.
If you agree with Archer, you're probably on the centre-right. You have your own beliefs and values, but you can accept that others have a different view and it is not your place to judge. You believe that good relations with others are a positive thing and you can overlook things that are unpalatable for the sake of the greater good. The most important things for you are freedom and protecting your own.
Me?..... I'm Team Archer
Attitudes to this episode seem to reflect one's own political opinion
If you agree with Trip, you're probably a lefty. Your moral position is the correct one as far as you're concerned and you have little tolerance for those who disagree. You have great sympathy with those who are disadvantaged and believe they should rise up against those who are oppressing them. The most important thing for you is equality.
If you agree with Archer, you're probably on the centre-right. You have your own beliefs and values, but you can accept that others have a different view and it is not your place to judge. You believe that good relations with others are a positive thing and you can overlook things that are unpalatable for the sake of the greater good. The most important things for you are freedom and protecting your own.
Me?..... I'm Team Archer
Re: ENT S2: Precious Cargo
Nowhere near as bad as Jammer's rant makes it seem. Yes we've seen all this before, yes she's an awful actress, but she's very nice to look at. There are some pretty funny moments in this, e.g. the short Hoshi/Trip scene, the tribunal, the fight in the swamp and despite her limited acting skills, I thought there was some genuine chemistry between Kaitanna and Trip. 1.5 to 2 stars I'd give it.
I'd far rather watch this than a lot of Discovery S2.
Nowhere near as bad as Jammer's rant makes it seem. Yes we've seen all this before, yes she's an awful actress, but she's very nice to look at. There are some pretty funny moments in this, e.g. the short Hoshi/Trip scene, the tribunal, the fight in the swamp and despite her limited acting skills, I thought there was some genuine chemistry between Kaitanna and Trip. 1.5 to 2 stars I'd give it.
I'd far rather watch this than a lot of Discovery S2.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
@Ghosted
I’m not sure you understand what Picard was talking about. In Generations, Picard was upset because he lost his family so he was concerned with the mortality of himself and more specifically the Picard family legacy. Then he experienced potentially infinite time in the Nexus, with the ability to change or create his family ancestry. Being able to manipulate time in such a fashion allowed him to see the hollowness in his original desire. He decided that time is something to cherish, not control or manipulate.
In this episode’s context, Dr. Burnham is referring to time as a fate she can’t escape because her efforts to affect time have been thus far been fruitless. It’s not that she isn’t “cherishing the moment”, which makes no sense in her predicament. Rather, she no longer has the luxury of cherishing her own time.
@Ghosted
I’m not sure you understand what Picard was talking about. In Generations, Picard was upset because he lost his family so he was concerned with the mortality of himself and more specifically the Picard family legacy. Then he experienced potentially infinite time in the Nexus, with the ability to change or create his family ancestry. Being able to manipulate time in such a fashion allowed him to see the hollowness in his original desire. He decided that time is something to cherish, not control or manipulate.
In this episode’s context, Dr. Burnham is referring to time as a fate she can’t escape because her efforts to affect time have been thus far been fruitless. It’s not that she isn’t “cherishing the moment”, which makes no sense in her predicament. Rather, she no longer has the luxury of cherishing her own time.
Re: DSC S2: The Red Angel
@Kinematic
In DISC Burnham serves the story, the story doesn't serve Burnham. Burnham is mocked by other characters for being a reckless, she goes through grueling struggles to reach the end of her journey, and once there it turns out that even she can't resist the temptation to ignore Starfleet regulations. If the plot and setting were twisted in unnatural, unpleasing ways to make Burnham out to be cool and heroic even when it didn't make sense, then she would be a Mary Sue. For instance, if she turned out to be a better fighter than Tyler despite spending her life in the peaceful Vulcan Academy. As is the plot is set up to make her life harder, not easier, and her judgment is far from perfect.
See how that works?
@Kinematic
In DISC Burnham serves the story, the story doesn't serve Burnham. Burnham is mocked by other characters for being a reckless, she goes through grueling struggles to reach the end of her journey, and once there it turns out that even she can't resist the temptation to ignore Starfleet regulations. If the plot and setting were twisted in unnatural, unpleasing ways to make Burnham out to be cool and heroic even when it didn't make sense, then she would be a Mary Sue. For instance, if she turned out to be a better fighter than Tyler despite spending her life in the peaceful Vulcan Academy. As is the plot is set up to make her life harder, not easier, and her judgment is far from perfect.
See how that works?
Re: DSC S2: The Red Angel
@Kinematic
Have you read any novels lately? I think the case you’re trying to make here could be applied to any protagonist. For example, Frodo Baggins is just so great and special. He’s probably written as a self-insert for J.R. Tolkien because they both share Judeo-Christian types of values. All the other heroes love Frodo and he’s incurruptable, fighting even the power of the One Ring that the almighty wizard Gandalf can’t fight. People are constantly praising Frodo and putting the big decisions in his hands. He doesn’t fight for glory, but for the sake of others. Basically, the typical Mary Sue.
Do you see the problem with this kind of analysis?
@Kinematic
Have you read any novels lately? I think the case you’re trying to make here could be applied to any protagonist. For example, Frodo Baggins is just so great and special. He’s probably written as a self-insert for J.R. Tolkien because they both share Judeo-Christian types of values. All the other heroes love Frodo and he’s incurruptable, fighting even the power of the One Ring that the almighty wizard Gandalf can’t fight. People are constantly praising Frodo and putting the big decisions in his hands. He doesn’t fight for glory, but for the sake of others. Basically, the typical Mary Sue.
Do you see the problem with this kind of analysis?
Re: DSC S2: The Red Angel
“Michael is a self insert character”
Sorry, who is she a self-insert of? Alex Kurtzman? You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
“Michael is a self insert character”
Sorry, who is she a self-insert of? Alex Kurtzman? You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions
I enjoyed it. Makes you think just how we will be seen in four centuries. Although I find it hard to believe that digital data from this era would be so rare.
Would have liked a few sentences to see what happened to that person. You would think Gordon would have looked it up.
2.5 stars
I enjoyed it. Makes you think just how we will be seen in four centuries. Although I find it hard to believe that digital data from this era would be so rare.
Would have liked a few sentences to see what happened to that person. You would think Gordon would have looked it up.
2.5 stars
Re: DSC S2: Project Daedalus
Sorry if this has been asked already, but why couldn't they just beam her back from space into the ships brig?
Sorry if this has been asked already, but why couldn't they just beam her back from space into the ships brig?
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves
“This Trek is a niche show on niche streaming service. No one in the mainstream legacy corporate media cares.”
LOL, this show is regularly reviewed and reported on by The NY Times. I think we’re getting trolled here folks...
“This Trek is a niche show on niche streaming service. No one in the mainstream legacy corporate media cares.”
LOL, this show is regularly reviewed and reported on by The NY Times. I think we’re getting trolled here folks...
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves
These cliffhangers leading into cliffhangers make the individual episodes almost impossible to gauge. I don’t envy your job here, Jammer :-)
These cliffhangers leading into cliffhangers make the individual episodes almost impossible to gauge. I don’t envy your job here, Jammer :-)
Re: DSC S2: Light and Shadows
I think the format is less germane to the story than the era when this show takes place, i.e. the TOS time period. There was a certain cavalier attitude in early Trek, something Spock later calls “Cowboy Diplomacy”. Kirk and Spock understood that inter-species problems aren’t always solved by playing by the rules. It may go against the grain of the TNG/DS9/VOY era we all might be more comfortable with, but it does fit the TOS era which this show *predates*.
I think the format is less germane to the story than the era when this show takes place, i.e. the TOS time period. There was a certain cavalier attitude in early Trek, something Spock later calls “Cowboy Diplomacy”. Kirk and Spock understood that inter-species problems aren’t always solved by playing by the rules. It may go against the grain of the TNG/DS9/VOY era we all might be more comfortable with, but it does fit the TOS era which this show *predates*.
Re: DSC S2: Light and Shadows
@William W
There’s still time to tell a story like that. It’s not like DSC forgot everything from season 1 and never brought it up again. We already had two huge Saru stories this season about his culture and people. It makes sense to let that matter sit for awhile and come back after later developments.
@William W
There’s still time to tell a story like that. It’s not like DSC forgot everything from season 1 and never brought it up again. We already had two huge Saru stories this season about his culture and people. It makes sense to let that matter sit for awhile and come back after later developments.
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part II
Say what you want about the episode, but that was one hell of a space battle. 3.5 stars from me.
Say what you want about the episode, but that was one hell of a space battle. 3.5 stars from me.
Re: DSC S2: The Sound of Thunder
I think Jason’s point is the studio’s operations are different and a certain amount of quality control is in place. Perhaps “Shades of Grey” is a better example. That episode was made as fluff to accommodate the contractual demand for 22 episodes, but the current model of On-Demand rewatchable Trek leaves no room for clip shows.
I think Jason’s point is the studio’s operations are different and a certain amount of quality control is in place. Perhaps “Shades of Grey” is a better example. That episode was made as fluff to accommodate the contractual demand for 22 episodes, but the current model of On-Demand rewatchable Trek leaves no room for clip shows.
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part I
Is it possible it's not even Isaac? Otherwise I cannot see how he can come back from this. He was literally part of the boarding party that killed crewmembers.
So either he will become a villain (bold and I like it), or there will be a reset button (bad), or Isaac will have a change of heart and save Earth. The problem with the last one is that is still doesn't excuse his previous actions which was accessory to murder and technically a mutiny on top of that (unless he dies in the act of redemption like Darth Vadar)
I cannot think this is a simulation by the way.
Is it possible it's not even Isaac? Otherwise I cannot see how he can come back from this. He was literally part of the boarding party that killed crewmembers.
So either he will become a villain (bold and I like it), or there will be a reset button (bad), or Isaac will have a change of heart and save Earth. The problem with the last one is that is still doesn't excuse his previous actions which was accessory to murder and technically a mutiny on top of that (unless he dies in the act of redemption like Darth Vadar)
I cannot think this is a simulation by the way.
Re: DSC S2: The Sound of Thunder
Peter, I understand what you mean, but like I mentioned with “Move Along Home”, “Q-Less”, and “Meridian” getting more positive reviews in spite of themselves and certainly higher than similar TNG duds, I can’t help but conclude there’s a certain tilt towards DS9. I don’t really see a problem with that, though, and in fact enjoy reading otherwise widely criticized Trek shows in a more positive light.
Peter, I understand what you mean, but like I mentioned with “Move Along Home”, “Q-Less”, and “Meridian” getting more positive reviews in spite of themselves and certainly higher than similar TNG duds, I can’t help but conclude there’s a certain tilt towards DS9. I don’t really see a problem with that, though, and in fact enjoy reading otherwise widely criticized Trek shows in a more positive light.
Re: DSC S2: The Sound of Thunder
@Iceman
Do you think it’s odd for a critic to have a favorite show? I don’t, and I certainly wouldn’t knock Jammer for it. If you’ve read some of Jammer’s comments on the matter, the star ratings are based on his “feeling” about the show as it aired. He’s not running some sort mathematical Star equation to come up with his star ratings, unlike say, Elliott.
Do I think that makes Jammer’s DS9 reviews uncredible? No, I just think that he’s more likely to tilt towards a higher star rating if he’s on the fence about an episode because he enjoys the whole package overall for what it is.
@Iceman
Do you think it’s odd for a critic to have a favorite show? I don’t, and I certainly wouldn’t knock Jammer for it. If you’ve read some of Jammer’s comments on the matter, the star ratings are based on his “feeling” about the show as it aired. He’s not running some sort mathematical Star equation to come up with his star ratings, unlike say, Elliott.
Do I think that makes Jammer’s DS9 reviews uncredible? No, I just think that he’s more likely to tilt towards a higher star rating if he’s on the fence about an episode because he enjoys the whole package overall for what it is.
Re: TNG S3: Deja Q
My wife’s favorite TNG episode and one of mine as well. Data’s laugh at the end is a tribute to Stan Laurel. There’s one flaw in the basic science of raising the orbit of a satellite. You have to apply the change in velocity (delta V) at the apogee rather than the perigee.
My wife’s favorite TNG episode and one of mine as well. Data’s laugh at the end is a tribute to Stan Laurel. There’s one flaw in the basic science of raising the orbit of a satellite. You have to apply the change in velocity (delta V) at the apogee rather than the perigee.
Re: DSC S2: The Sound of Thunder
Iceman, as much as I like DS9, if you read Jammer’s reviews of it you can tell he really likes it. I mean, he even gives episodes like “Move Along Home”, “Q-Less” and “Meridian” two or more stars. And as someone already mentioned, his DS9 reviews were from the show while it was running. On the other hand, the TNG reviews were updated 10 years after the show ended so he had to time to reflect and consider which were the best over time. You can see how it’s not really fair to compare reviews of the two shows like that.
Iceman, as much as I like DS9, if you read Jammer’s reviews of it you can tell he really likes it. I mean, he even gives episodes like “Move Along Home”, “Q-Less” and “Meridian” two or more stars. And as someone already mentioned, his DS9 reviews were from the show while it was running. On the other hand, the TNG reviews were updated 10 years after the show ended so he had to time to reflect and consider which were the best over time. You can see how it’s not really fair to compare reviews of the two shows like that.
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