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Springy
Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 10:08pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: When it Rains...

Good development.

Not as exciting as recent build-up eps with the mediocre Gowron plot and the Ezri/Julian silliness, but the Odo reveal was great.

More Harry Potter happenings on Bajor, as The Book seems a fiery dart into Dukat's eyes and blinds him.

Onward.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 10:33am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Changing Face of Evil

@Chrome:

Nice catch! Thanks for sharing that thought.

Yes, agreed.

Though who is Colonel Travis, never-say-die Alamo commander, whose little figurine Julian misplaces? Julian says that he plays Travis during the recreations, but he's not a good fit, is he? Colonel Kira, injured and later being carried in Julian's arms? Is he going to misplace her? Or lose her? Sisko? Is he going to be lost?

Must shut down my brain as I have a date to play Care Bears with a 4 yr old, but interesting analogy with the Alamo.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 9:49am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Changing Face of Evil

Changing faces of evil:

--Cardassians going from Dominion to the Federation.

--Kai going from Prophets to Pah Wraiths

--A Book was Evil, but now will bring Paradise.

--Julian should try joining the other side and be Santa Ana. Worf should join the Alamo game he disdains.

--Damar has come through a dark tunnel into the light, says Weyoun.

--Ben goes from loving husband to big overprotective jerk? Then he backs off.

--Trouble between the couples. Adami tells Anjohl not to interfere. Kasidy tells Ben not to interfere.

--Trouble between Julian and Miles. Another reverence to Paradise

This Bajor stuff is more Harry Potter than Star Trek.

But this Battle with the Breen is pure Sci Fi. Very exciting. Well done. Good bye, Defiant. I hardly knew ye.

Back to Harry Potter as The Book catches fire.

Damar takes charge. And changes into the key to saving the AQ.

Uneven, but more good build up.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 9:08am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Strange Bedfellows

Strange bedfellows

--Adami and Anjohl

--Adami and the Wraiths

--Ezri and Worf

--Damar, Ezri, and Worf

--The Emissary and the Unbelieving Freighter Captain

Good bye, Weyoun 7. Best line from Damar to Weyoun 8 about the Founder possibly being displeased: "I look forward to meeting Weyoun 9."

Lots of good set up! I just love The Breen. And I liked the way the Kai was turned to follow the wraiths. Made sense and well done. Fletcher and Alaimo are great.

Let's see where it goes.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 5:57am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: 'Til Death Do Us Part

Winn and Dukat, Damar, Dukat, and Weyoun - definitely the best part of the story. I thought Winn was going to recognize Dukat when he mentioned Gul Dukat. But no. Other than that oddness, that business was very well done.

Winn is surely being contacted by the wraiths.

Worf/Ezri, Sisko/Kasidy - eh. I liked the Quark part with the ring. Sisko was remarkably malleable to a friend's opinion- changing his mind when the Kira backed the Prophets, then back when Quark didn't. But this time, the Prophets themselves aren't overwhelming him.

Had it's moments. Not sure what to make of it overall. The Breen were fun.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 12:16am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Penumbra

A mish mash of an ep, not sure what to say about it.

Could have done without the Worf/Ezri stuff. Useless, I'm sure.

Kasidy and Ben - they're ok. I'm glad to see them engaged, though they've never really grown on me as a couple. We see so little of her or their relationship.

Something's brewing on Cardassia. I liked this part of the ep best. It showed some promise, unlike the relationships.
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Springy
Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 3:55pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

After reading commentary:

Got myself surprised once again - by all that focus on the tiny part of the ep where Sisko expressed his discomfort about the race issue.

MY TWO CENTS, if you're wanting two cents:

I thought it made sense for Sisko, given his recent Benny experience. Kasidy handles it well, as does the episode.

Vic's is a program written for fun and relaxation - where nobody notices your huge Ferenghi ears, your Trill spots, your Bajoran nose wrinkles, your changeling face. . . and they're certainly not going to notice human skin tone. Sisko knows that; he's feeling irritated because it's roughly in the same time period as Benny, and he felt first hand what Benny went through.

But he's an intelligent man, and he knows his staff members are the same, and that they all know what Vic's is (a fun place) and what it's not (a historical recreation like -- I assume -- that Alamo program, a program mentioned several times in this ep, along with general mentions of fantasy vs reality). So he joins in, and probably has more fun than anyone.
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Springy
Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 11:35am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges

Having read commentary:

I like Jammer's idea that Sisko was in on the plan. Section 31 is presented as Star Fleet's Obsidian Order. Sure, Star Fleet gives them latitude and may not want to know ALL the details, and will disavow all knowledge off their actions . . . but sending Bashir to infiltrate them makes no sense.

So I figured Ross had to be in on whatever Sloan was doing. I never thought about Sisko until Jammer brought it up, but his theory makes sense. I'm still clueless on how Bashir could believe Star Fleet wants him to infiltrate Section 31.

Does he believes Section 31 operates totally without Star Fleet? An independent organization of grossly misguided psycho-patriots who do what the Federation won't do? More like some crazy homegrown militia than the Tal Shiar?

I guess if he can believe it's a good idea to trust a Romulan Senator whom he barely knows with explosive and super sensitive information, he can believe anything.

I like the idea of an episode about idealism vs pragmatism, values vs results. But this was badly conceived, convoluted, and I couldn't buy in.
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Springy
Sat, Feb 16, 2019, 10:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges

Watching and commenting:

--The Romulans feel that they're being treated like pointy-eared stepchildren. O'Brien promises to give their ships more attention.

--Garak the Wise wonders if Star Fleet will use the conference on Romulus to gather intelligence. Enter Section 31. All in black leather. In and out like Batman.

--Sisko seriously believes that Section 31 might be some sort of . . . rogue organization? Not officially condoned or funded by the Federation? Not part of Star Fleet'intelligence? How could that be?

--Love the formal Star Fleet uniforms.

--How can Julian be so stupid and traitorous? And stupid? Confiding in the Romulan Senator, just because she seems trustworthy?

--Can the Romulans mind meld?

--This is just . . . convoluted and hard to buy. I don't like sneery Julian.

--Not a favorite, disappointing.
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Springy
Sat, Feb 16, 2019, 9:27pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

Oceans DS9

I really like Vic but this was truly the fluffiest of fluff.

Well done for what it was, just not my cup of rakatajino.

Loved the ending, though. That was worth the slog.

"The Best is Yet to Come" is a great song and I'm hoping, prophetic.
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Springy
Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 10:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Chimera

Watching and commenting:

--Odo and O'Brien on a runabout. They see a UFO that turns out to be a changeling. I guess changelings can exist in the cold vacuum of space. Must be nice.

--He's one of the 100? Huh. Interesting. Good start.

--Sisko very reluctant to trust or believe. Who can blame him? 

--Laas. Odo shows him how they merge and afterward Laas reveals that Odo has stayed for Kira, and only Kira.

--Laas minces no words about the humanoids and Odo's reservations about being who he truly is.

--I think we're seeing the beginning of the end for Odo and Kira. And Kira knows it. No matter what Odo says.

--Laas is being fog. Won't people breathe him in? Neat special affects, though.

--Laas kills a Klingon. Oh, boy.

--Quark being realistic (and moving the subtext closer to the text): "This is no time for a Changeling Pride demonstration on the promenade." This is the best part of the ep.

--Kira helps Laas escape, showing she likes reality better than fantasy, no matter how much it hurts. Good for Kira.

--Odo not quite ready. So they keep it going, a little while longer.

Well . . . a romantic ending for our odd couple, but overall, this episode does not bode well for the Colonel and the Constable.

Good ep. 
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Springy
Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 9:18pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Field of Fire

Watching and commenting:

--Lt Illario. He's doomed as sure as I'm sitting here.

--Lt Illario has been shot. Projectile weapon.

--Is this going to be a classic whodunit? Or . . . huh . . . is this going to be another Ezri ep? Again, so soon?

--What??? A transported bullet??? Well, no lack of imagination there, anyhow.

--Worf and Ezri. The size difference is glaring.

--I don't care for the suggestion that the former hosts' consciousnesses - not just their memories - are within the current host. They did this in the ep where all those hosts possessed the bodies of Jadzia's friends. It made no sense then or now.

--This actor playing Joran sure isn't pulling his punches. He's putting his all into being as annoying and creepy as Trilly possible.

--The murderer is definitely a Vulcan because the victims all have laughing pictures? And out of 48 Vulcan, he happens to be the first Vulcan they run into -- yes, it's intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, because of the look in his eyes?

--Agatha Christie is turning in her grave.

--Points for the green blood.

--Awful ep. Best line, from Joran looking at one of the smiling pictures: "How can anyone be so happy with such unattractive children?"
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Springy
Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 8:35pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Emperor's New Cloak

Having read the commentary:

Was I the only one that thought Alt Vic was a robot? When he's lying there dead, I remember the impression of . . . wires or something, sticking up from his wound. I assumed, "Oh, in this world he's an android instead of a hologram."

@Peter G

@Chrome

I confess I exaggerated my dislike just to be silly - it's definitely better than the total, total waste that is Meridian. Though, Peter, yes, you may be the only one that actually liked it, on the board. You've got the ears of a Ferenghi to be able to hear that distant drummer drumming. :)

I can see the fun of the ep and it did keep me engaged. For me, it's more the MU than the Ferenghi that I don't like.
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Springy
Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 11:52am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

@William B,

Yes, agree this ep was particularly well done and had unique aspects.

Was just responding to several comments I read suggesting the other Treks would never have even dealt with the trauma, never shown consequences . . . I disagree. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. I sure couldn't tell you, off the top of my head, which series does it best or most often.

--They're all basically adventure shows that put their characters through things like . . . Miles and his 20 years in prison . . . all the time. And they need their characters up and running quickly. So we see what we see. I'm ok with it.

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Springy
Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 10:28am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Emperor's New Cloak

Watching and commenting:

--Two eps in a row about someone missing. And the Grand Negus, blech. This can't be good, can it? This Quark prayer is pretty fun, though.

--"Call me Shmun." I would have preferred "Call me Ishma-shmun."

--OMG, Mirror Universe combined with Grand Negus??? Is Meridian finally going to have some competition for DS9 worst ep ever?

--The invisible things you carry sure can weigh you down.

--LOL. Alternate Universe Vic. This episode gets points already, so it's ahead of Meridian. Up from -1,000 stars to -900.

--"It's the smart move." "Do we look smart to you?" -800

--AU Kira with the Negus. -900

--Garak and Worf. -800

--Sabotage!! Good work, Rom. Not a bad resolution. -700

--Eh. -700 stars. Better than Meridian by 300 stars. Had the advantage of not taking itself seriously, and some good lines.

Onward.
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Springy
Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 9:41am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Prodigal Daughter

Watching and commenting:

--Some backstory on Ezri. Not particularly engaging, but Ok. I like the portrayal of Mom, nicely done. The brothers are ooky, in different ways.

--Miles . . . I don't like this story line. It was hard to buy that he got soooo invested he betrayed Star Fleet, and now puts his (husband and father) life in jeopardy to track down the widow and personally follow up on her death.

--Ummm . . . Norvo even oookier than I thought. Yeeeee.

--Oh, c'mon! The suggestion that Mom is responsible? Really? And now Ezri blames herself?

Ugh. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

Below average ep with oooky message.

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Springy
Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 8:57am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

@Iceman

--I did mean "in the DS9-verse," in that I think a few weeks in a holosuite is a pretty quick fix.

--We haven't seen these specifics before, but off the top of my head, I can remember watching B'Ellana deal with the trauma of her childhood and losing all her Maqui friends; L'waxana dealing with the repressed pain from death of her young daughter . . . I'm sure there's more, but I'd have to dig, I'm specifically thinking maybe Tripp and his sister's death, Picard and his Borg experience, Seven and her Borg experience . . . did we see Worf deal with Kalarh's death? I don't remember. I just don't think "an episode based on a character working through his or her past trauma" is a new thing for Trek. I'm guessing there are dozens of eps. Though certainly doing it this way was unique, imaginative, and just nicely realized.
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Springy
Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 11:05pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

Having read commentary:

--You know - that ending. After Nog told Vic how he was giving Vic the gift of 26/hr a day life, I really think a better ending would be this: Vic, after expressing his delight and gratitude, watches Nog leave. Then he shakes his head, smiles, and says: "Computer, end program." Because in the end, you've got to go back to who you really are, to where you belong. (I actually thought he was going to do it, but he didn't.)

--This is a nicely done ep about the consequences of Nog's injury, but I didn't see it (the part about showing some consequences) as unique in the Trekverse. And unless we see a lot more consequences for Nog, this will be right there with all of Trek, in giving us a pretty quick fix, when the consequences of trauma are occasionally addressed.
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Springy
Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 10:09pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: It's Only a Paper Moon

Watching and commenting:

--A moving start, brings a tear to my eye, this nice scene as Nog hobbles off the transport.

--Just leave Nog alone. I'd need some alone time, too, and plenty of it.

--The smooth stylings of Vic Fontaine. I listen to Sinatra when I need to, so again, my sympathies are totally with Nog.

--Flashing back - yeah, trauma is like that. You keep going back there. And back there. And back there, to that old familiar place.

--"I don't want to go back to my life." And there you have it in a nutshell, Nog.

--I like Vic and I love James Darren. He's great in the role. What's not to love?

--"Dollface." The perfect name for Ezri.

--This is adorable. I'm impressed to see such a nicely done holographic episode. And one centered on a Ferenghi. That's a tricky feat to pull off.

--"I'm going to give you your life back." The life he doesn't want back. But it's the only one he's got.

--"I couldn't believe it." Yep. And then: Acceptance. Gotta get to that last stage. More tears for me.

So much going on here, with Vic as well as Nog. Lovely, just lovely.
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Springy
Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 9:19pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Covenant

Watching and commenting:

--Dukat setting himself up as an Emissary. The Anti-Sisko.

--Dukat felt the wraith's love. Jake says it was hate. Does Dukat know the difference? And more talk about what love is.

--Forgiveness. Lots of talk about forgiveness.

--The Vedek Fala, about Dukat's previous bad rep: "That was some time ago. Before he felt the kiss of the pah wraiths" Kira: "That was some kiss." Huh. Weren't these exact same words recently used to describe her kiss with Odo? And the ep starts with Odo wishing he could have Kira's faith, so he could go to services with her. Some kiss, indeed.

--The service is being led by the Good Reverend Dukat.

--OMG, that baby. Oh, dear. Nice twist. Love all that's unspoken in those looks people are giving each other. Nicely done.

--And now they're all going to drink Kool Aid. I definitely agree with Kira. Dukat's not going to kill himself. Underneath it all, he's still Dukat.

--Oh, my. What is the meaning of all this?

Well . . . Alaimo does a nice job, and the episode's best moment is when the baby is revealed.

MY TAKE: Dukat's faith is a faith of convenience, even if he's convinced himself otherwise. I don't really agree with Kira, that he's changed. He always justified his evil, rationalized it; he's just chosen a different way of doing it.

Dukat is Dukat is Dukat.

Solid offering, though the religious imagery was a bit over the top, with that painting, especially. I was half expecting the baby to be born in a manger.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 11:24pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Siege of AR-558

Good ep. I liked Quark especially. Shimerman is great. I liked his concern for Nog and when he shot the Jem Hadar.

Brooks does well, eschewing the scenery chewing for a subtler performance.

Good job building up tension and holding my interest despite some mediocre battlefield cliches.

I also wanna say: I like Vic Fontaine. That's right, pally, I said it.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 10:40pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Once More Unto the Breach

Tedious, predictable, not a favorite.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 10:39pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Treachery, Faith, and the Great River

I enjoyed it. Combs is great, as always. I liked the "hiding in the ice" business.

There were definitely suspension of disbelief moments (I found it hard to believe Weyoun 7 would so easily agree to kill Odo, e.g. and that they could be certain Odo wasn't infected, and other things), but they weren't too bad.

I thought the episode was about uniqueness, what makes us what we are. How one version of Weyoun is different from another, how one desk is different from another, how one year's version of blood wine is different from another . . . better, worse, the way value is assigned.

Finally moved the arc forward a bit, too, yay!!

Engaging and above average.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 12:45pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Chrysalis

Not so great. A return of the stereotypes: the Manic One, the Nympho, the Childlike One, the Catatonic One. . . and introducing Julian Bashir, as the Lonely One.

He's so lonely, he can't maintain his professionalism with his vulnerable, fragile patient. Ugh.

Lots of silly. I did like that Sarina had the strength, in the end, to set off to make her own life, so points for that.

Below average.
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Springy
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 12:38pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Take Me Out to the Holosuite

Lightweight, but not bad. I was glad that they didn't win, but rather, found something to be happy about, despite the loss.

"Death to the opposition," was a great line.

I used to live in Cincinnati in the mid and late seventies, with the Big Red Machine, so I have a soft spot for baseball, which helped me enjoy the outing.

I could have done without the taunting of Solok, which detracted from the whole thing. Also didn't care for Kasidy breaking Ben's confidence.

Average as average can be.
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