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Mon, Dec 18, 2017, 7:14am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S4: Living Witness

@William B

'Here is what the Kyrians (and in particular, the Kyrian leaders, who are the ones who get to control the narrative) want...'


'History is written by the winners - that's the undeniable truth that can be applied to all wars.'

This is one of my problems, is that the ones telling the story, at least for this episode, are the losers.

Yet they don't blame the victors of the war, they blame Voyager, based on almost no actual evidence whatsoever. If they wanted to make stuff up, you'd think they would make stuff up about the Vaskans, not some random aliens that showed up for a short time and then left. That makes no sense.

They dislike the Vaskans, and blame them for their troubles. Why insert Voyager, which was a minor player, in reality (though they didn't know that), and make them out to a major player, and the cause of a genocide in their fiction, instead of the Vaskans themselves?

The losers would blame the victors, not some random ship that showed up at around the same time.

It really makes little sense.

It was all a contrivance to tell a story, and I don't like that. And the Doc doesn't have a backup!!
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Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 12:03am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S4: Living Witness

I certainly don't see this the way most everyone else did.

I like continuity for one thing, so the fact that there was a backup Doc is already a big distraction.

And I don't buy that the Kyrians would make Voyager out to be this sadistic psychopathic crew of genocidal murderers. They don't have much evidence of that, in fact it seems they have little evidence of anything at all, so why would they go that route? Especially if they want to make the Vaskans look like the bad guys.

The Vaskans weren't as evil as they were made out to be according to the Kyrians recreation itself. The way the recreation portrays it, Voyager betrayed the Vaskans by exterminating hundreds of thousands of Kyrians, against the objections of the Vaskan dude. He didn't want that. He just wanted them to help a little.

DALETH: I'm asking you to intimidate the Kyrians with your technology. Help me capture their leader. This ship has superior firepower. He won't risk a conflict with you.
DALETH: Captain, don't you think that's excessive?
pJANEWAY: You picked a bad time to have second thoughts, Ambassador.
DALETH: I want them defeated but, but this is genocide!
pJANEWAY: Defeat? Genocide? Why quibble with semantics?
DALETH: This wasn't our agreement.

And I really wish they would stop using 'race' instead of 'species'. These were not 2 different races. They were different species.

An OK episode. I don't understand all the praise it's getting. Unless some people are influenced by what Jammer thought of it. Not that people can't think for themselves, but sometimes what the 'almighty reviewer' (no offense) thinks, can color someone's own opinion.

2 stars from me.
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