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Skoochy
Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 7:48am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Remember

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My problem was that they never really gave any real 'good' reasons for the Enarans to commit genocide. Not that there are good reasons to commit genocide(!), but I only mean that they never explained it other than saying that they don't like tech and are unsanitary. That was their main beef. They should have fleshed out the Enaran's reasons a little more, because that would have made it more interesting and complex episode. It was just a slapdash reason to have a holocaust story, that should have had more depth and been more meaningful.
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Skoochy
Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 12:05am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Remember

I don't understand all the praise for this episode. A holocaust story shoved down our (and Torres') throat, with all the subtlety of a kick to the head.


Here are a few of the things in this that bother me.


The Regressives are different because they don't like to use technology as much as the Enarans do, so in effect it's like Americans slaughtering Amish people or Mennonites. Why would we? I don't understand why the Enaran's want to kill all of the Regressives in the first place. Oh yeah, because they don't wash their hands. Seriously? What writer came up with that pathetic reason to slaughter an entire group of people? If they are that ultra-paranoid about sanitation, why not just do what they were pretending to do and move them to some isolated colony instead of killing all of them? The whole basis of this episode, to me, is idiotic.

TORRES: If that's the way they want to live, why can't they?
JARETH: Well, they can. That's why we're helping them to resettle. So that they can be completely comfortable practicing a way of life that they've chosen.
TORRES: They could do that here, in their village.
JARETH: Well, you wouldn't say that if you'd ever been inside that place. Do you realise they won't even use radioseptics to sterilise their homes or their hands before they eat? It's a miracle they haven't started a plague by now.


If Mirell wanted to share her memories that badly, so that the true history of her planet would be known to the younger generation, why share it with some alien she just met, that is leaving in a few days? Why not just telepathically broadcast it to everyone around her on her own planet? Makes no sense.


Why does it take her a week to send all of her memories to Torres? Everyone else passes their memories on pretty much instantly. That guy gives Janeway all his memories of learning how to play that instrument in no time, and Torres passes her new memories immediately to Jessen at the end too.


And now the mostest stupidest thing in the whole episode. The way Jareth convinces Torres/Mirell that they should kill all of the Regressives. Here goes.

JARETH: ...They're trying to undermine us, to cause dissent and doubt. Just look at how they've affected you.
TORRES: But, what they're saying is so horrible.
JARETH: Yes, but it isn't very plausible. Korenna, think. A secret conspiracy against their people? Organised murder on such an enormous scale? Do you really believe that your family and friends are capable of that?
TORRES: No.
JARETH: Of course not. Now I know how hard it is for you to accept that anyone, even Regressives, could lie about something like that, but it is all part of their manipulation. These people have no conscience. They'll say anything to get what they want. Like that boy Dathan...But now you understand what these people are really like.

Did you see how stupid that was? Did you? I'll explain in case you didn't see it. I'm not trying to be patronizing, it's just that it's not immediately obvious.

She wasn't against the Regressives before, but her father convinces her that Dathan and his people are horrible because they are lying about all of their people being killed. And so she betrays Dathan and indicates that he's in the room with them and he is hauled away. But then in literally the next scene, she stands there cheering as they kill him and his people. Wut?!? She hated him for lying, but he wasn't, so why in the hell would she still be against him and the Regressives when she now knows that they are actually telling the truth? Makes zero sense. Actually it makes -2 sense.


And what a stupid way to kill thousands of people btw. One by one by strapping them to some machine that cooks them to death. Also it probably wasn't very sanitary.

1 1/2 stars.
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