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Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 1:12pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S1: What's Past Is Prologue

The human influence on the global temperature is far from an established fact.

And it sure seemed like the mycelial network was sentient. It tapped into Stamets brain to create Culber and argued to protect itself, to continue it's own existence. I don't know of any non-sentient things that would do that.

It's literally trying to save it's own life. And it tells Stamets how to escape the network. It must be sentient. If it isn't, it's a good scam.
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Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 9:23am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S1: What's Past Is Prologue

I also don't want to be pulled into this, but I have no choice but to state some facts.

The earth has been warming and cooling since it existed.

The past 400,000 years and even before that it's been a cycle.

And the sun is absolutely affecting our temperature. It's the greatest influence because it's, you know, super hot, and next to us.

Every single person on earth could disappear tommorow, and the earth will still warm up and become more jungle than anything, then cool down again and nearly become a ball of ice, and so on, as it's done for millions of years.

Are humans affecting any of this? Probably not, but it's possible. But we will be a jungle planet in a few thousands of years, no matter what. And an ice planet 50,000 years after that, give or take.

Maybe it's the mycelial network doing all this. Maybe it's trying to kill us.

And also I think that in the last episode, they made it fairly clear that the mycelial network is sentient. And that's a terrible decision.

Anyway, I hope that's the end of the climate stuff. Not because I'm so awesome, and proved my point (because I didn't), but because it has nothing to do with DIS.
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Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 6:59pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S1: What's Past Is Prologue

Holy cow. It's almost at 200 comments already. That may be a record in such a short time. And I bet it will be a record until at least next week. Insane.

Of course it's because this is a Star Trek show. Even the Star Wars movies didn't get this much feedback. That's sort of telling I guess.

Personally I like Star Wars better, but I do love Trek. Star Wars is deeper, philosopically, and politically I think. At least until the new ones. The they're just entertainment. :D Not bad, but not good either.

And so far that's how I feel about DIS. Not bad, but not good either.
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Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 6:06pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S1: What's Past Is Prologue

It'll be something like this.
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Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 5:18pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S1: What's Past Is Prologue

Someone else did mention that earlier, that the spore may be Lorca, and god I hope not.

If if has to be a person, at least be Culber. Or better yet, give Tilly some sort of spore powers. But not Lorca.
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Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 5:08pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S1: What's Past Is Prologue

I did want to add a few things :D

Everyone seems to be making a big deal out of someone eating a Kelpian, but remember they were herd animals here in our universe too, and were eaten. They must taste pretty good.

And the only thing keeping this episode from being zero stars from me was that the minor characters (nonexistant characters) actually got to speak in this one. I liked that.

And Oyin Oladejo is super hot.
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Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 4:58pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S1: What's Past Is Prologue

This will be long.

@Plain Simple

'...what was up with Murca's "fate brought me here" spiel? that the writer's way of saying "yes, we know that Murca didn't have a plan and it took all the pieces to fall just right for him to have the opportunity to return to the MU, so don't think about it anymore, because neither will we, since we want to spend our last episode with Murca fighting, not figuring out his plans and motivations"?

It's exactly that. They said last week that he had this elaborate plan and even 'showed' how it all came about, and this week just said, nevermind, it was all coincidence or 'fate'.

Now onto my thoughts of this crapfest.

How did Lorca free everyone? It went from last episode with him escaping the agony booth, to him setting all his crewmates free. How did that happen? No explanation. He's on the Emperor's ship with presumably hundreds if not thousands of loyal people/guards/soldiers, so how did that happen? And where did he get all the guns from? He gave them all guns.

Let's assume he impossibly did all that, how would these 30-50 people or whatever it was, ever be able to take over one small section of the ship, much less the entire ship? Again with hundreds or thousands of people against them?

And Landry wasn't from the MU? Wut? That woman was the most horrible person that ever existed in Starfleet, if the one we saw earlier was the PU one. (That's the security chief that killed herself with the tardigrade, btw).

Mike escaped from the Emperor's throne room, with literally about 100 guards by shooting like 2 people and jumping down a hatch? Whatever. And of course none of the thousand soldiers on the ship can find either her or Lorca. Right.

Like @Panagiotis Karatasios said earlier, this episode is ridiculous.

Mike can reroute her visual signal to be broadcast from somewhere else on the ship to hide her location. OK. Like she would know how to do that, and she did it with some strip of lights(?) that she got from somewhere.

And then Georgiou says she has a bracelet that makes her life signs undetecable, thats why no one can find her, she says. So how were they unable to find Mike or Lorca? Why didn't they detect their life signs?

Mike makes the stupidest bargain in history. She tells Lorca that he can have her, (but only her mind! whatever that means), if he lets the crew of Discovery go. As if he cares. She is his prisoner and can do anything he wants to with her. She has nothing to bargain. I was facepalming at that scene. What was the point? Why didn't he just laugh in her face?

I don't see why anyone thought the fight scenes were well done. I was cringing at them the entire time. Just terrible.

And why would Mike help Georgiou at all? She's the emperor of a brutal horrible empire, and has seen her kill multiple people, and because she looks like her former captain, she wants to help her? I don't buy it.

Speaking of that, it seemed like the MU Stamets, and MU Georgiou turned out to be good guys. Wut?

All the spore drive stuff was asinine. For instance, once it was activated on DIS, why did they have to fly though a bunch of tendrils or whatever they were? It only took them 1/10 of a second to jump before. Now it took them 2 minutes flying though fungus or something. Makes no sense.

And when they got back to the PU, they say they have no contact with Starfleet at all. Yet they show a 'war map' detailing all the advancements and victories of the klingons in the past 9 months. Really? Where did they get that from? So stupid.

Also, why didn't the palace ship just blow Discovery up when they first showed up?

OMG, there is more idiocy, but it's too awful to watch again to see what I missed.

I assume Lorca will be back since he fell into the mycelial network (or something). And that spore that went into Tilly means something too, though I sort of don't care at this point.

I do want to say one thing about 'hatewatching'. I don't think anyone is doing that with this show. That's done with something that you know is terrible, and you watch it to make fun of it, or criticize it. I don't think many people, or anyone for that matter, are doing that to this show. I think 99.9% of the people expected it to be good, or at least watchable. It only turns out later that some of them hate it. And I don't hate it myself. Just this episode. It was horrendous.

By far the worst episode of DIS, and one of the bottom 10% worst ST episodes ever.

1/2 star. ugh.
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