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Sen-Sors
Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 5:54pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Absolute Candor

"I was referring to the second Star Trek episode ever filmed, Where No Man Has Gone Before broadcast in 1966, not a film made 22 years later. But it's understandable, based on the commentary among posters, that many fans of Star Trek here disregard anything the franchise did prior to 1987."

lol, woooow. Or perhaps it was an honest mistake, considering there's decades of Trek stories across many different series and films.
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Sen-Sors
Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 1:55pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

@Mark

Fair enough, I suppose. Personally, I think the problem with this episode isn't so much Geordi's intentions or even his actions (although the door-blocking was very yikes), but rather how the script plays out the consequences of his advances. It would have been perfectly reasonable for Brahms to go to one of Geordi's senior officers, tell them what happened and refuse to work with Geordi, leading to a fully deserved dressing-down in which Geordi realizes that yes, his behavior was out of line. Instead, Brahms apologizes to Geordi(!) for "overreacting", which is ridiculous. Geordi is clearly the one who requires some introspection into his own behavior, not Brahms, and for the script to portray their actions as equitably problematic is... Well, problematic.

I say all this as a guy who has been in Geordi's clueless shoes more than once. You make mistakes and learn, but you have to recognize those mistakes in order to correct them, and IMO this episode was flawed in that respect.
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Sen-Sors
Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 11:27pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: The End Is the Beginning

True but it does need to be enjoyable to be enjoyable.
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Sen-Sors
Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 7:00pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

You are claiming Geordie had no romantic intentions toward Brahms in this episode? Uh, okay.

I think Geordi's intentions weren't necessarily malicious in a predatory way, moreso hopelessly awkward and oblivious, plus the insistence that he was merely offering her friendship is simply dishonest. Either way, his behavior was inappropriate (especially in a professional setting) and I think it's wholly understandable that any women would find it "creepy", regardless of intent.
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Sen-Sors
Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 4:51pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: The End Is the Beginning

And no, you can't blame this on DS9 either. Just because DS9 was dark and morally grey doesn't mean every series after that must be. Voyager wasn't, for better or for worse.
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Sen-Sors
Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 4:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: The End Is the Beginning

I reject the idea that the writers are forced to write this way because audiences allegedly have no attention span. People react positively to good writing now the same as always. Yes people have more to choose from than ever before, and yes there are good shows that get lost in the shuffle, but this is Star Trek. It has a built-in fan base that is actively hoping a good show.

Breaking Bad didn't get so big by constantly throwing gimmicks and mystery boxes in to hook people for next week. It hooked people for next week by having a good story with compelling characters, and people responded to that.
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Sen-Sors
Sun, Feb 9, 2020, 3:51pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: The End Is the Beginning

Ha! I like that misspelling. And thanks for the tip, good to know.
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Sen-Sors
Sun, Feb 9, 2020, 2:43pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: The End Is the Beginning

Almost forgot about the new crew. Raffi is a textbook example of shoehorning in a Big Important Relationship with an established character much like Burnham and Spock. Her little mystery box at the end of the episode was obnoxious. "I'm gonna hitch a ride to some planet but I refuse to tell you why!" Then get the hell off the ship, this isn't an intergalactic coach bus. I think the writers actually feel clever when they do this stuff. It's not compelling, it doesn't draw people in, it's just bad writing.

The pilot is a badass rogue who doesn't play by the rules except he's actually a true blue Starfleet mook but he's sad cause his last captain died. Whatever.

The new model of Peppy Awkward Science White Girl is making me consider checking if the Orville really does get better in season 2.
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Sen-Sors
Sun, Feb 9, 2020, 2:02pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: The End Is the Beginning

Gooz what are you on about? You're fixated on a character that will probably never even appear in this show, and if she does it will just be to briefly wave hello from a vid-screen. Did a botanist kill your dog or something?

Re: Booming's point about critics, to claim that "most critics here give as hard as they take" is to ignore Booming's point. The critics on this site criticize the show, based on the things that happen in the show. The people who like the show criticize the critics, based on them not liking the thing. There are exceptions but the dynamic is plain to see in this thread.

Re: Stewart's performance, did you guys see Green Room? The one where Patrick Stewart plays a skinhead? Dope film. Stewart's character was very soft-spoken and relatively subdued, even when he got angry. Watching this episode, I realized that Stewarts tone and delivery in Picard is much the same as his Nazi character in Green Room. Now I can't unhear it! Whatever, it's just cause he's old. I have way more issues with the writing of his character than the performance.

The fight scene in Picard's house was horribly shot, all shaky-cam and quick cuts, the worst way to do a fight scene. And then when they have the last guy incapacitated Picard leans in to ask him a bunch of questions. Um, hello? Didn't Picard watch the last incapacitated Romulan agent kill Daj by spitting acid? Oh well. And then of course he DOES spit acid, which made me laugh. Stuff like this makes your characters look stupid.

The Romulan psych ward was the same psych ward you can find in any horror movie or bad tv show. People muttering and twitching in corners. Cliche, lazy, and (at this point) disrespectful to the mentally ill. It's not the fucking 80s anymore, could we move on from this trope? Especially since this is Star Trek, and DS9 already handled this more tastefully?

I admit I did not recognize that was Hugh, must have been focusing on cooking dinner when they said his name. Good to see him back, hope his character does more than sputter "how did you know that!?"

Those sunglasses though *chef's kiss*
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Sen-Sors
Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 10:38pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: Children of Time

Mike, just wait till the singing scene in "Chrysalis". I cringed so hard I shriveled up into myself and winked out of existence.
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Sen-Sors
Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 11:37pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: The Sound of Thunder

DSC Pike is the Cool Dad of Starfleet captains.
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Sen-Sors
Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 6:45pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

Oh, and wouldn't an android made completely out of organic matter be just a regular person like you and me? Didn't Picard himself point this out in Measure of a Man?
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Sen-Sors
Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 6:01pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

Watching this episode I was reminded of how I felt watching the Dark Tower movie; a film that decided to cram seven books into one movie and as a result, every piece of dialogue and character interaction was exposition. There was never any room for the film or its characters to breathe, slow down a bit and just let the audience get to know them a bit better. Everything had to be utilitarian, spelling out either the plot or the world around it, and the characters ended up feeling vague and undefined, blown around by the script instead of having any kind of agency of their own.

This Picard show is the same thing. Every dialogue scene is simply an exposition dump. The scene where Picard's servant explains the Double-Secret Police is a perfect example. She makes an offhand comment about them, Picard is like "wait what?" and we spend the next three minutes dumping exposition on Picard. And of course the Double-Secret Police go way back before the Tal Shiar, because Kurtzman.

Or we have Romulan Fuckboy blurting out the story of how dead his brother is the moment a girl mentions they have a sibling. Really? Clumsy as hell writing.

An exception to the "Tell, Don't Show" rule is the synth revolt scene, which didn't really tell us anything we didn't know other than the writers have no idea how to write working stiffs. A bunch of people in their late thirties sitting around saying shit like "Dude, aren't you glad we don't treat these robutts with an ounce of respect? Dude get me a Coors from that replicator, I'll pour it out over that skinjob's head while we all laugh about how nothing bad will ever happen to us OH SHIT DUDE LOOK OUT"

Red Letter Media pointed this out and I have to agree, but this show is overplaying the relationship between Data and Picard. Data's best friend was Geordi, not Picard. Picard was very private and closed off, even to his crew; that's why Picard joining the card game was such a perfect capstone to TNG. I know dewey, wide-eyed schmaltz is what Kurtzman thinks will work for Trek but having Picard talk about "the man whose death I've mourned for twenty years" and "you are more dear to me than you could possibly understand" is actually undercutting Picard's character.

The villains are embarrassing to watch.

The Fucking Hubris line made me laugh, just for the delivery. I don't actually have a problem with cussing in Trek in theory, but you could easily have had the lady dress down Picard in a more articulate and professional way that would have been more effective; or just have her say a bad word because that's cheap and easy and "shocking" to some people. A+, Kurtzman!
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Sen-Sors
Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 7:10pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S2: Unnatural Selection

Skeptical, I should clarify that I do not believe that people who don't like Pulaski do so because they are sexist. My comment was meant more as a jab at the writing of TNG as a whole, and how Pulaski was a stark contrast to characters like Crusher and Troi.

As for Pulaski being unprofessional and disrespecting Picard, eh. Whatever. I still find that sort of character more entertaining than a Dr. Crusher; mother or no, there's just not a lot going on there character-wise unless she's getting it on with a ghost.

I do agree with your sentiments on Bones, and how TOS would occasionally turn him into a bug-eyed dumbass to make Spock look better in comparison.
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Sen-Sors
Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 6:03pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Shadows and Symbols

Not sure if this is the best place to put my thoughts on Jadzia/Ezri Dax but I'd like to echo the sentiments that Ezri popping up almost instantly after Jadzia died was kind of obnoxious.

The Trill were an interesting concept as a species, individuals who carry whole lifetimes worth of knowledge and experience within a single individual. And yet the Trill with the most screen time behaves like a (competent) twenty-something party-girl who spends most of her time hobnobbing around with the Klingons, one of the most overtly corrupt and warlike races in the galaxy. And then when she dies the Trill is shipped right into another body that's even cuter and whiter than the last. Wooow, good for you!

Eh. I actually like Ezri more than Jadzia; she has doubts, insecurities, and an actual personality. Part of that is the writing, part of it is the actress is just kind of... better. And I understand the writers didn't really know what to do with Jadzia at the start and so tried to play to Farrel's strengths (or lack thereof, IMO) but still. Kind of a missed opportunity with a cool concept for a sci-fi species.
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Sen-Sors
Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 6:42pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S2: Unnatural Selection

Jason R, totally with you on Team Pulaski. Never understood the hate this character gets. "She was mean to Data! Yes she got over it and it was character-building, but this is TNG; I want my female characters sedate and underwritten!"
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Sen-Sors
Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 7:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S2: A Private Little War

Was going to jump into the discussion of Nona's portrayal in this but Trish said it all better than I could so I'll just say I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Kirk's "cure" looked like dog poop.
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Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 5:25pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S1: The Corbomite Maneuver

BAAAAAAH buh-buh BAAAAAAH

BAAAAAAH buh-buh BUUUUUH
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Sen-Sors
Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 5:21pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S3: Plato's Stepchildren

This was a good one, definitely one of those that sticks around in your head as you turn over its themes. I feel like a lot of the negative reactions in this thread boil down to "Well, I never!" but considering how extreme this episode is tonally in comparison to the rest of the series I can understand how it's not everyone's cup of tea. Personally I'm always down for a takedown of a corrupt ruling class whose smug sadism and dehumanizing attitudes are matched only by their utter banality, and the surreal camp factor is just icing on the cake.

I had heard about the interracial kiss; I didn't know that the next five minutes featured Kirk literally whipping that same black woman. Holy shit.

Most of my thoughts on this episode have been covered above, but I thought that the exceptionally written and acted character of Alexander's refusal to claim the powers for himself was all the more powerful because it was instant and completely independent of anyone else's influence. The writers could have easily had Alexander be eager for revenge and the chance to lord power over his former tormentors until Kirk and company talk him down. Instead, Kirk tells him he could run this bitch and he's like hell no, that ain't me.

I was expecting hardcore camp, and I got it, but there was also a lot more going on here.
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Sen-Sors
Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 5:59pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S2: The Omega Glory

For all this episodes glaring Cold-War era jingoism and blatant racism, it's interesting that Kirk mentions that the vaunted freedom and rights of this (apparently) galaxy-spanning Constitution applies to those outside of the "U.S." culture as well. That is a concept that a substantial percentage of U.S. citizens would vigorously disagree with.

Oh well, chalk it up to the aspirational nature of Trek.
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