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Selfescape
Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:57am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S5: The Fight

I don't understand the comments praising this episode. I'm a big boxing fan, but this is incredibly boring, obnoxious, and Beltran's acting is atrocious. The Fight is easily the worst episode of Voyager. 0 stars.
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Weasel
Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:05pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S2: A Matter of Honor

I've been watching Trek since around TNG's S2, off & on. Caught a bunch of episodes out of order & knew that I liked it but graduated HS & got a "real job" (joined the Army) the same year DS9 premiered. Hence I never got to watch that or VOY as "current" episodes, with the sole exceptions being "Trials And Tribble-Ations" and "Scorpion Pt 1" (caught those solely due to the commercials promoting those eps). Since then I've watched DS9, VOY and ENT in order & am now cherrypicking TOS & TNG eps I haven't seen using this website as a guide.

That being said, since this IS so late in the game & SO much has been said about all these eps by SO many people, I've debated making any comments. But after discussing this ep and all its charm in Star Trek Online just now, I was compelled to watch it again for nostalgia. Then I realized I hadn't read the review/comments for this, so I checked everything out & decided now's as good a time as any to contribute to the comments for the first time. So here is my debut commentary.

I really like this episode and WANT to give it 4 stars, but I can't. I feel 3.5 is apropos. Pretty much for all the things that have been mentioned before but also for some stuff that nobody else has brought up. For instance, like everyone else, I am SO enamored with Riker's willingness to fully immerse himself in Klingon culture, starting with their food. That's good.

However, the conversation that immediately follows the amorous advances of the Klingon females screws it all up. Once Klag mentioned his indifference to his father's fate, it was appropriate for Riker to pipe up "but he's your father". After Klag responds to that, Riker should have let it go. But he doesn't; he repeats "but he's your father!" like as if Klag didn't hear him the first time, or hearing it a second time will give Klag pause. "Oh, he is? Really? Maybe I ought to rethink my position." No. Riker gave his take on the situation based on how HIS culture would handle it, and that's all he's obligated to do. Anything more comes off as arrogant and condescending. This is Klag talking about the dishonor his father suffered, and Klag's resultant feelings. All Klingon. There is no room whatsoever for Riker's commentary, and continuing to offer it is insensitive and, like I said, arrogant. Riker was wrong and I really wish he'd not said it a second time. As a CDR, he should have known better, and considering all the preparation he did for this assignment, he has no excuse.

As a veteran, I inherently understand thoroughly the concept of "chain of command", and anytime in Trek the military structure is represented, it's almost always done properly, but when it's performed well, it gives me a warm feeling inside. Like "the writers actually GET it!". Such as it was with Mendon jumping the chain and Worf's responses. I've been in both Mendon's and Worf's shoes in situations like that, and every single one of those scenes was pretty much exactly like how it would happen IRL. So, kudos for that.

@The Dreamer "Collins who portrayed Kargon also played on of the Pakleds in Samaritan Snare and was the voice in the 80s cartoons GI JOE (Cobra Commander) and Transformers (Starscream)"

Yup, nice to see I wasn't the only one to pick up on that. I preferred this performance to the one he gave as a Pakled for the simple fact that he had more lines & screentime here. Also, to clarify any confusion, Christopher Collins was his billing name when he did live acting, but for voiceovers, he went by Chris Latta. RIP, big guy.

@Jeffrey Jakucyk "Also, as mentioned in "Coming of Age," Mordock is the first Benzite in Starfleet, and he only enrolled a year ago. That's all fine, but then why is Mendon wearing a Starfleet uniform, and why did Riker not change into a Klingon uniform?"

This aspect of Mendon bothered me too. It wasn't clarified if he was on another Federation vessel or was a Benzite officer. And I hadn't considered Riker wearing Klingon gear. But I can tell you from experience having worked with/around exchange officers from other countries, they do NOT wear the uniforms of their host countries. So Riker wearing Starfleet gear on the Pagh was 100% correct. But it still doesn't explain Mendon.

@The River Temarc "In commercial aviation, these incidents led to a lot of discussion about the role of Asian culture in cockpit management."

I remember reading about those incidents and that's an excellent comparison. Thank you for the food for thought.

@Tara "But, shouldn't the realistic outcome have been: Riker gets beaten to a pulp and is left to crawl off with a concussion and a couple fractures, while the Klingons laugh and mock and demote him to janitor for the rest of his term?"
@meister "I am not sure I can believe the other Klingons wouldn't have attacked him after the Klingon captain was beamed over. Was it supposed to show their strict respect for the chain of command? But they do like to challenge and fight others so why wouldn't they just have attacked Riker?"

Not necessarily. Everyone else on the Klingon ship clearly agrees with Riker but, because of their rank, it's not their place to challenge Kargan; that responsibility lies with Riker, and they know he will do so. However, as evidenced by the ending with Riker "not ducking" Kargan's backhand, they have to go through the song & dance of asserting themselves for protocol's sake yet underneath it all everyone knows the real score. That's precisely why Klag is sympathetic & friendly to Riker at the end, but notice that when they get up, Klag is forceful & assertive when they walk away. Gotta keep up appearances and all...

Lastly, did anyone else notice that the name of the Klingon vessel (IKS Pagh) is the same exact word that was used in DS9 for the Bajoran concept of one's "lifeforce"? *quotes Kai Opaka* "Your pagh is strong" WTH?

Sorry for the novel, but you guys have great comments & I didn't want to miss anything. Hope anyone who reads this gets a fraction out of it what I got out of the comments above me.
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Selenium
Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 4:51pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S6: Statistical Probabilities

I also think (like @Fenn) that this is an allegory for neurodivergent people. I am autistic myself, and work with non-verbal and hyperactive autistic children. Dr. Bashir's "hiding to appear normal" and "feeling understood" by the other mutants ("low"functioning autist, Kanner-Autist...) resonates strongly with me ("high" functioning autist).
Of course I don't think the writers did this completely on purpose or with the intend of writing a differenciated portrait of the fascets of the autism spectrum, and of course the characters are to cartoonist, but I really enjoyed the Jack Pack and Bashir in this episode.
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Sela
Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:59am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S5: Unification

The gum chewing dude reflected in the green dildo looking ornament.

Classic.
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D'anna, Klingon Starfleet's Counselor
Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 11:35am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S5: Redemption, Part II

Lt. Comdr. D'anna, daughter of L-Waqxan'ha, Klingon Starfleet's Counselor...
Personal diary, note:

RAAAAAWR!!! You Chris Hobson dishonored mak'dar will drown in your blood!!! I'll drink bloodwine from your emptied skull and throw your corpse to the targs you filthy petaQ!!! And... Comdr. Hobson, do not forget your appointment on Tuesday, at 11:30 am, thaaaaaanks xxxxxs :-)
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SELA YAR IS A DOUCHEBAG
Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 12:51am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S5: Redemption, Part II

SELA YAR EATS DA POOP. SELA KILLED TASHA (AGAIN), SELA KILLED HER MOTHER, SELA IS A LIAR... SELA IS ARMUS' DAUGHTER.

SELA... PLOS, I POOPED IN THE LOO. HAVE A CUP OF POOP.

HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE :-DDD
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Paul Moseley
Sun, Jul 29, 2018, 3:49am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S3: Defiant

Presumably, this episode couldn't happen even now.

After the odd Riker - O'Brien encounter, the Chief goes home and WhatsApp's to Will Riker...

Chief: Wtf dude. What did I do do?

Will Riker: hey chief. No idea what your talking bout man. im on rysa! baybee! partay!

Chief: Oh. Must be your duplicate. I'll call Sisko.
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Paul Moseley
Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 3:34am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S5: Children of Time

Beautiful episode. Literally reduced me to tears thinking about paths not taken.
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Ansel
Thu, Jun 23, 2016, 4:57pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S4: Remember Me

Third time I go over the whole series of the "newer" ST. Let me add a bit of info about this episode. Forgive me if I have missed a similar comment on this string of comments, but I think not. I believe the basis of this episode is "The Tibetan Book of the Dead", originally intitled " The Great Liberation from the Bardo through Hearing". If you have not read it, or heard about it, it may change your life, but that is a different issue ... Anyway: At the moment of death, the progressive dissolution of the "physical" components of the human body end up releasing consciousness, and at that moment the basic luminosity of the essential nature of everything becomes overwhelming. If one's mind rejects, fears, tries to avoid the unavoidable, the "individual" mind of the deceased will go over a process of dramatic adjustment to its own creations in the form of imagery and situations which may end up in its reincarnation into another form of life in one of the (6) different levels of form existence (samsara). If at the moment of the great flash (the light tunnel in Near Death Experiences one's mind recognises the unity of it all, and lets go, there happens the liberation from reincarnation (nirvana).
Of course, the process is a lot more detailed, and fascinating, but this is a quick summary.
How does that show in the episode? It is an allegory, a sequence of parallels:
1- The bubble in engineering is death
2-The loss of reality and progressive detachment from reality at death time is the Doctor's process of inability to stay connected to the reality of the crew members that she perceives as disappearing.
3- The alien comes up and mentions that: "the quality and substance of her thoughts at the moment of absorption into the reality of the bubble determines the reality of her experience in her new dimension". This is equivalent to the statement in the Bardo Thodol about determining your reality as it is a projection of one's own mind ... and here it all connects with the beautiful theories and experiences as explained mainly in Tibetan Buddhism, but also appearing in many other traditions.
Thank you.
For the true happiness of all beings.
Ansel
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Dunsel
Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 11:02pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TOS S2: The Ultimate Computer

Hello,

My name is Captain Dunsel.

I'm sorry my command of the Enterprise did not go well.

I've been demoted to ship's junior cook, under some dude named Neelix.
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Walter Dunsel
Tue, May 26, 2015, 12:34am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TOS S3: The Enterprise Incident

Couple of points from a long time listener

- we do not know if Klingon ships are bought or stolen by the Romulans. Kirk's statement that the ships were "of identical design" could mean they were stolen designs

- It is perhaps less important if long time viewers had their credulity strained; it would be less likely the Commander would be aware of the unique relationship between K&S

- They want to keep Kirk alive to test their truth beams on; this they have time for

- Why would the Commander wish to go back ? I suspect her fate was known to her and would find a "scandal " to be a difficult time (although of Romulans had Americans' taste for celebrity rehabilitation, she may have indeed preserved)

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SeizedMyVesselSeizedMyVessel
Thu, Jan 15, 2015, 12:10pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

Orci's "script" for Trek XIII has been scrapped. I believe that production has stopped on the movie (maybe it has now resumed now that there is a director?). Two first-time screenwriters are writing the new screenplay........ Something tells me we are not going to be seeing Star Trek XIII for some time - not until a number of changes in "creative" personnel are again made. Maybe Abrams can only direct mindless action (not necessarily a bad thing; Pauline Kael once said that a director need not be able to direct everything but should at least have a sense of what he cannot direct), but he is at least pretty good at doing so. Justin Lin? The man who "revived" TFATF? From what - post-rigor-Morris to slightly-earlier-in-time post-rigor-Morris? Nicholas Meyer did a TWOK commentary with Manny Coto. Coto asked him if he would ever have any interest in directing another Trek movie. "Yes," Meyer wryly replied. "But only if it's a good one." I think I now know why he won't be having anything to do with Trek XIII. If Trek XIII fails at the box office (clearly, that is the only kind of failure that matters to Paramount now; it will not fail for being either too good or too lame), the movie franchise will be left where it was after movies one, five and ten. Twitching.
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Kurt Fng Russel
Mon, Apr 21, 2014, 4:14pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TNG S6: Aquiel

I suspected the dog was going to be a shapeshifting alien within 10 seconds of it arriving. Why? Because of the 1984 movie 'The Thing'. As I turned out I was more right than I could ever have imagined. The episode is a complete rip off!
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Sel
Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 8:18pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S3: Macrocosm

Look, I don't mind technobabble if the babble is at least somewhat intelligible. Virus + Human Growth Hormone =/= Giant flying tentacle monsters. That's asinine. If this show had a science adviser, they should be ashamed of themselves.
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BennyRussel
Sun, Feb 26, 2012, 2:26pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S3: Facets

To add to JD's last comment.

When humanoid, Odo also seems to "see" with his "eyes" and "hear" with his "ears". This would suggest he was able to shape those organs and make them function as designed.

I think it's safe to say that the technobabble behind how changelings really work is a bit underdeveloped. At some point, I just accepted it.

One thing I could not accept is how Odo's Bajoran communicator magically appears and disappears when he changes shape. Are we to believe that he has the ability to shape part of his body into a complex piece of equipment like a communicator?
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Sel
Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 1:35am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: TOS S3: The Mark of Gideon

Just finished watching the third season and I have to say it's not as bad as I previously imagined. The thing with Trek, at least TOS, is that it can be very very good, or very very bad. Both are entertaining. However, what it can't be, and what most of the third season was is boring. For me, the Mark of Gideon has to be the worst episode because it is incredibly boring. If I was flipping the channels and that came on, I would perhaps watch a little bit and then change the channel, and probably not give Star Trek a second chance.
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Kip Russell
Thu, Mar 4, 2010, 11:17pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S2: Blood Oath

The scene in "Blood Oath" between Jadzia Dax and Kang where she 'plays the same trick on him' is one of the best in Star Trek.
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Russell
Sat, Nov 21, 2009, 6:11am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S2: Projections

This episode was OK, but far from a four star rating. It's one of Brannon Braga's weaker efforts.
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Russell
Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 10:41am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S1: Cathexis

I thought this episode was OK. I enjoyed the paranoia between the crew, and the twist that it was Chakotay taking over their bodies and not the alien, which was in Tuvok all along.
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Russell
Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 2:47pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: BSG S4: Daybreak, Part 2 (April Fools Version)

Lol, Jammer, you had me fooled all the way through your mock review. I had actually accepted what you said about choosing not to properly review the episode. I guess I'm a bigger fool than I realise.

Look forward to your actual review. For the record, I was satisified with the finale, and I'd give it 4 stars easily. It actually felt like an ending that requires no kind of continuation, though I realise there is 'The Plan' coming up, but that's a prequel.

I'm less enthusiastic about the 'Caprica' series now that I know where these Humans are in the context of history, but I guess it could be interesting to learn a little bit more about the 12 colonies before they were destroyed.
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Russell
Fri, Aug 1, 2008, 1:52pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S4: Concerning Flight

It was a bit stupid of them to shoot at and destroy one of the ships beaming away their technology. What if it was the ship with the computer core on board?
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Russell
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 5:47am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: VOY S1: Caretaker

Every time I rewatch "Caretaker", it gets a little worse. I don't like the Kazon and it's a little silly that they have interstellar ships, but can't find any water. I also don't like Janeway's decision for stranding the crew. I don't have a problem with that as the outcome, but it could've been played out better.
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