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Re: TNG S4: Final Mission
This episode has numerous problems, but the worst is the fact that nobody on 1701-D has any idea how orbital mechanics works. SLOWLY accelerate the stupid garbage scow thing and park it in a higher orbit to buy some time, then go rescue Picard and Whil Whheaton, then come back and get the garbage scow out of orbit using the same technique and send it into the local sun.
This episode has numerous problems, but the worst is the fact that nobody on 1701-D has any idea how orbital mechanics works. SLOWLY accelerate the stupid garbage scow thing and park it in a higher orbit to buy some time, then go rescue Picard and Whil Whheaton, then come back and get the garbage scow out of orbit using the same technique and send it into the local sun.
Re: TNG S2: The Child
Excuse me, source of the Eichner radiation agitation of deadly substance is what I meant to say.
Excuse me, source of the Eichner radiation agitation of deadly substance is what I meant to say.
Re: TNG S2: The Child
You found out Ian was born to Troi to learn the human life cycle? Was this stated in the episode or was the conclusion made from the obvious implication of Ian's existence? I don't recall the child ever explaining himself, besides that he was the source of the "deadly substance", which was called a plasma virus by the way.
You found out Ian was born to Troi to learn the human life cycle? Was this stated in the episode or was the conclusion made from the obvious implication of Ian's existence? I don't recall the child ever explaining himself, besides that he was the source of the "deadly substance", which was called a plasma virus by the way.
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow
I thought it was a very entertaining episode of The Orville and a clever idea (thanks TNG! Ha.) The twist at the end was a good one.
Perhaps Seth came up with this after dating Halston Sage? And realising their age gap was too much. I think we all like the idea of dating a younger person, but as seen in this episode, we change as we grow older. Could we really go back to nightclubs and immature behaviour?
I thought it was a very entertaining episode of The Orville and a clever idea (thanks TNG! Ha.) The twist at the end was a good one.
Perhaps Seth came up with this after dating Halston Sage? And realising their age gap was too much. I think we all like the idea of dating a younger person, but as seen in this episode, we change as we grow older. Could we really go back to nightclubs and immature behaviour?
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2
Kurtzman, "One of the most gratifying things is to see how deeply the fans have embraced Pike, Spock, Number One, and the Enterprise. The idea of getting to tell more stories with them would be a delight for all of us."
Yeah, they've been embraced but what about the Discovery crew? Ha!
Kurtzman, "One of the most gratifying things is to see how deeply the fans have embraced Pike, Spock, Number One, and the Enterprise. The idea of getting to tell more stories with them would be a delight for all of us."
Yeah, they've been embraced but what about the Discovery crew? Ha!
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2
@Tim C. I missed your link. Discovery has been renewed and it's gonna be set further in the future than the show has ever been. Discovery will be outdated tech then!
I suppose that's the last we've seen of Pike and Spock (unless they get a spin-off.)
@Tim C. I missed your link. Discovery has been renewed and it's gonna be set further in the future than the show has ever been. Discovery will be outdated tech then!
I suppose that's the last we've seen of Pike and Spock (unless they get a spin-off.)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2
It was a really good episode with a spectacular space battle. Did Discovery really need to go the future? Control was defeated at that point. They could have just blown Discovery up.
The ending leaves the way for a spinoff show with Pike and Spock, although we probably won't get one. It also serves as a possible ending for the show if it isn't renewed.
Where exactly has Discovery gone to? Are we gonna see Picard and co next - recast. Are we gonna see the Borg and Q? Interesting.
It was a really good episode with a spectacular space battle. Did Discovery really need to go the future? Control was defeated at that point. They could have just blown Discovery up.
The ending leaves the way for a spinoff show with Pike and Spock, although we probably won't get one. It also serves as a possible ending for the show if it isn't renewed.
Where exactly has Discovery gone to? Are we gonna see Picard and co next - recast. Are we gonna see the Borg and Q? Interesting.
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow
I was worried about young Kelly's rejection at first, but then I remembered that we were told only that he called her at 9:00 AM the next day. It was also implied that this was not an appropriate time to call and was probably a little off putting to most people. So, since Kelly's memory was wiped (Dr. Finn usually knows what she is doing), I convinced my self that in the original timeline, young Kelly probably react by saying that she didn't see it working out, Ed Mercer is very strong willed and probably got her to come around after the initial reaction. Oh well, at least I was able to satisfy myself with this, but I am not very hard to convince.
I was worried about young Kelly's rejection at first, but then I remembered that we were told only that he called her at 9:00 AM the next day. It was also implied that this was not an appropriate time to call and was probably a little off putting to most people. So, since Kelly's memory was wiped (Dr. Finn usually knows what she is doing), I convinced my self that in the original timeline, young Kelly probably react by saying that she didn't see it working out, Ed Mercer is very strong willed and probably got her to come around after the initial reaction. Oh well, at least I was able to satisfy myself with this, but I am not very hard to convince.
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
The last two episodes have earned a 3.5 from Jammer! I know it's like comparing apples and oranges, but in comparison, Discovery has received 2/4.
Yet, The Orville hasn't been renewed yet.
The last two episodes have earned a 3.5 from Jammer! I know it's like comparing apples and oranges, but in comparison, Discovery has received 2/4.
Yet, The Orville hasn't been renewed yet.
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
@Alan Roi.
It would make more sense to air the show on the same day, in the same time slot, every week until all the episodes have aired. Like they do in the UK. Or they used to do, because many of the shows are on US time now (like The Orville.) However, some shows like Magnum P.I. are held back until there's enough episodes to air them without a break.
@Alan Roi.
It would make more sense to air the show on the same day, in the same time slot, every week until all the episodes have aired. Like they do in the UK. Or they used to do, because many of the shows are on US time now (like The Orville.) However, some shows like Magnum P.I. are held back until there's enough episodes to air them without a break.
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1
@Kira Nerys. That guy has probably been rejected time and time again. He's lonely and looking for love. Consider his feelings.
I do agree with you that Pike is the best thing about season 2. However after initially being lukewarm to Discovery, I quite like it now. At the end of the day, it's just a TV show. If you're no longer having fun, maybe stop watching it. Life is short.
@Kira Nerys. That guy has probably been rejected time and time again. He's lonely and looking for love. Consider his feelings.
I do agree with you that Pike is the best thing about season 2. However after initially being lukewarm to Discovery, I quite like it now. At the end of the day, it's just a TV show. If you're no longer having fun, maybe stop watching it. Life is short.
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
@Perry They take the show off the air for three weeks and wonder why the ratings drop. Stupid networks.
@Perry They take the show off the air for three weeks and wonder why the ratings drop. Stupid networks.
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1
It would have been a good way of rebooting the show! Take everyone to the future - let them face the Borg etc... BUT we all know Spock wouldn't be there.
It would have been a good way of rebooting the show! Take everyone to the future - let them face the Borg etc... BUT we all know Spock wouldn't be there.
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1
It's amazing that people keep watching things they supposedly hate. Your life is short. If you don't like Discovery, The Orville, Star Wars, Who, Potter etc... then stop watching them!
I stopped watching Discovery after S2 Ep3 and I was done. But a mate convinced me to give it another go and now I like it. Because S2 is much better than S1 and because the show works better when being binge-watched.
It's amazing that people keep watching things they supposedly hate. Your life is short. If you don't like Discovery, The Orville, Star Wars, Who, Potter etc... then stop watching them!
I stopped watching Discovery after S2 Ep3 and I was done. But a mate convinced me to give it another go and now I like it. Because S2 is much better than S1 and because the show works better when being binge-watched.
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1
Imagine if Michael went to the future and that's now the show! The rest of the characters are gone. The DISCO haters would really hate that. They could rename it - The Michael Burnham show! Michael TNG.
[I personally don't have a problem with her. I did at first (because the actress was in Walking Dead mode, which might have been me) but I like her now.
Also, to all the trolls who hate DISCO, the Picard show is moving forward. People on YouTube were saying it's been cancelled, but it hasn't. Rehearsals have started. They're pushing it close for a 2019 debut, no?
Imagine if Michael went to the future and that's now the show! The rest of the characters are gone. The DISCO haters would really hate that. They could rename it - The Michael Burnham show! Michael TNG.
[I personally don't have a problem with her. I did at first (because the actress was in Walking Dead mode, which might have been me) but I like her now.
Also, to all the trolls who hate DISCO, the Picard show is moving forward. People on YouTube were saying it's been cancelled, but it hasn't. Rehearsals have started. They're pushing it close for a 2019 debut, no?
Re: DSC S2: Through the Valley of Shadows
@TheGorn.
I wouldn't believe anything he is saying. Him and his followers clearly hate the show and call it 'childish STD.' They don't want a season 3 or a new Picard series to be made. Man babies, all of them. If they don't like it, no one is allowed to enjoy it.
@TheGorn.
I wouldn't believe anything he is saying. Him and his followers clearly hate the show and call it 'childish STD.' They don't want a season 3 or a new Picard series to be made. Man babies, all of them. If they don't like it, no one is allowed to enjoy it.
Re: DSC S2: Through the Valley of Shadows
If the heads of CBS streaming have any sense, they'll drop the planned Georgiou spinoff and replace it with a Pike / Spock spinoff. I worry for next season when Anson Mount is no longer around.
Still:
"Can I have a time crystal?"
"No!"
"I'm not leaving without one."
"Oh, all right then!"
It was poorly written but the future scene was compelling. I don't see why Pike can't change his future if he takes a time crystal. He just needs to be wary and avoid those circumstances on that day. Assuming he can figure it out. In regards to the show, would it be so bad if he managed to change that event and stick around? It would be an alternative timeline and that would be okay.
If the heads of CBS streaming have any sense, they'll drop the planned Georgiou spinoff and replace it with a Pike / Spock spinoff. I worry for next season when Anson Mount is no longer around.
Still:
"Can I have a time crystal?"
"No!"
"I'm not leaving without one."
"Oh, all right then!"
It was poorly written but the future scene was compelling. I don't see why Pike can't change his future if he takes a time crystal. He just needs to be wary and avoid those circumstances on that day. Assuming he can figure it out. In regards to the show, would it be so bad if he managed to change that event and stick around? It would be an alternative timeline and that would be okay.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
I'm from the UK and sadly I am sick most of the time. No doubt part of the reason I want to watch wholesome entertainment. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
I'm from the UK and sadly I am sick most of the time. No doubt part of the reason I want to watch wholesome entertainment. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
"Is it exemplary to shy away from the things that plague human existence?"
Yes, I think so, because otherwise you risk glamorizing that behavior and being corrupted by it yourself. As you said, you do not watch Torture Porn movies and I suppose this is because the extreme violence does nothing for you. I wouldn't expect you to start watching those movies. I gave you two examples that the mass public like that I do not. Pornography and extreme horror. You disputed the second point but I don't agree. Men are often drawn to horror because they think they'll be considered a wimp if they don't like it. 165 million (Saw III) from a 10 million budget is very impressive. Then we have to add everyone who saw the movie on home video. There are many, many horror fans. It's probably mostly younger people but older people like them too.
Cody mentioned The Wire and a boy throwing his future away to Heroin. This is exactly the kind of thing I do not wish to see. The world is scary enough without watching this kind of thing for entertainment. At least, to me. It's like the news, there is some benefit to be had from listening to it. But it also reports the most negative aspects of humanity, for ratings. And TV is inherently negative anyway.
I consider Picard to be a role model. He is a man of duty and honour, a good friend, a decent human being. And he drinks Earl Grey, which is a plus :) But as you pointed out, he is flawed. Most people are. Still, in most episodes (as it is nearly always about the job) he is a role model. Nucky and Don Draper are anti-heroes in that, the audience like them and root for them, even though they are horrible people. I've often seen people say they want to be like Don or that they relate to him. He is a product of his time. Compelling maybe, but as Jon Hamm said, don't try and be like Don. Buy a nice suit of you want to, but don't smoke and drink like him, or cheat on your wife.
There are different degrees of being a do-gooder. I have argued with people online who infuriate me, because they get offended at every little thing. Worse still, they pretend to be offended! White men who get offended if there are white men in the cast. Men who think female actresses are hard done by, when there are many successful, millionaire actresses. Making a mountain out of a mole hill. However, you can be a good person without being a do-gooder or being called a snowflake if you don't like something. [The dumbest insult ever.] You can be inspired by people like Picard and Pike (without idolizing them and wanting to be them) and you can watch things with hope and idealism, and fun. People seem depressed these days and part of it, is what they watch on TV. Everything is so miserable and negative.
"Is it exemplary to shy away from the things that plague human existence?"
Yes, I think so, because otherwise you risk glamorizing that behavior and being corrupted by it yourself. As you said, you do not watch Torture Porn movies and I suppose this is because the extreme violence does nothing for you. I wouldn't expect you to start watching those movies. I gave you two examples that the mass public like that I do not. Pornography and extreme horror. You disputed the second point but I don't agree. Men are often drawn to horror because they think they'll be considered a wimp if they don't like it. 165 million (Saw III) from a 10 million budget is very impressive. Then we have to add everyone who saw the movie on home video. There are many, many horror fans. It's probably mostly younger people but older people like them too.
Cody mentioned The Wire and a boy throwing his future away to Heroin. This is exactly the kind of thing I do not wish to see. The world is scary enough without watching this kind of thing for entertainment. At least, to me. It's like the news, there is some benefit to be had from listening to it. But it also reports the most negative aspects of humanity, for ratings. And TV is inherently negative anyway.
I consider Picard to be a role model. He is a man of duty and honour, a good friend, a decent human being. And he drinks Earl Grey, which is a plus :) But as you pointed out, he is flawed. Most people are. Still, in most episodes (as it is nearly always about the job) he is a role model. Nucky and Don Draper are anti-heroes in that, the audience like them and root for them, even though they are horrible people. I've often seen people say they want to be like Don or that they relate to him. He is a product of his time. Compelling maybe, but as Jon Hamm said, don't try and be like Don. Buy a nice suit of you want to, but don't smoke and drink like him, or cheat on your wife.
There are different degrees of being a do-gooder. I have argued with people online who infuriate me, because they get offended at every little thing. Worse still, they pretend to be offended! White men who get offended if there are white men in the cast. Men who think female actresses are hard done by, when there are many successful, millionaire actresses. Making a mountain out of a mole hill. However, you can be a good person without being a do-gooder or being called a snowflake if you don't like something. [The dumbest insult ever.] You can be inspired by people like Picard and Pike (without idolizing them and wanting to be them) and you can watch things with hope and idealism, and fun. People seem depressed these days and part of it, is what they watch on TV. Everything is so miserable and negative.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
@Gooz Chos.
This is what I'm talking about with The Wire. Yet, I don't find it to be the case with Discovery. Different perspectives.
RE: Discovery. It was one of my main criticisms of season 1, that everyone seemed to be miserable all the time. I mean, I know there was a war on but make some time for fun and lightheartedness. TNG did! During season one, Sonequa Martin-Green was stuck in Walking Dead mode! With a miserable face. But I quite like Michael now, she has grown on me. She actually smiles and laughs! At least occasionally. The actress is showing range and different emotions. Maybe it's because I'm binge-watching the season but I don't find it to be wallowing in misery and depression any more. There is light among the darkness. I mean, it's not The Orville but there is fun to be had.
@Gooz Chos.
This is what I'm talking about with The Wire. Yet, I don't find it to be the case with Discovery. Different perspectives.
RE: Discovery. It was one of my main criticisms of season 1, that everyone seemed to be miserable all the time. I mean, I know there was a war on but make some time for fun and lightheartedness. TNG did! During season one, Sonequa Martin-Green was stuck in Walking Dead mode! With a miserable face. But I quite like Michael now, she has grown on me. She actually smiles and laughs! At least occasionally. The actress is showing range and different emotions. Maybe it's because I'm binge-watching the season but I don't find it to be wallowing in misery and depression any more. There is light among the darkness. I mean, it's not The Orville but there is fun to be had.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
"The structure, the narrative arcs aren't there to please you, they are there to show you why things are happening the way they do in the city of Baltimore.
First season: the projects or ghetto
Second season: The harbor
Third season: city hall
forth season: schools
fifth season: newspapers ."
True. But as so-called entertainment it just doesn't appeal to me. This is true to life (gangs are everywhere) and I'm all about escapism. As tragic as it is, I would rather not know about it. I prefer to spend my time being inspired and watching happy films and television.
"The structure, the narrative arcs aren't there to please you, they are there to show you why things are happening the way they do in the city of Baltimore.
First season: the projects or ghetto
Second season: The harbor
Third season: city hall
forth season: schools
fifth season: newspapers ."
True. But as so-called entertainment it just doesn't appeal to me. This is true to life (gangs are everywhere) and I'm all about escapism. As tragic as it is, I would rather not know about it. I prefer to spend my time being inspired and watching happy films and television.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
"If he would live today he would look like a naive idiot."
Why? Be the example, not part of the herd. Be the best person you can be. Question why you're doing this, what value does this bring to my life. I don't watch The Wire because I believe it has nothing to offer me, but misery and depression.
In the same way that I no longer watch pornography. The woman in the clip might be drugged, she might be under age or she might regret her decision. And yet millions of people watch pornography. I also will not watch Torture Porn films, because I have empathy and they offer no value to my life. They celebrate the worst of humanity. Does this make me a naive idiot? No. But yet, I am in the minority.
I would rather look up to someone like Pike and Picard, than Walter White and Nucky Thompson, or even Don Draper. Who are all anti-heroes. People like them even though they are essentially the bad guy and deeply flawed. It's like the people who cheer on the villain in slasher movies. The Wire is full of anti-heroes, both the drug dealers and the detectives.
"I just read the wiki page that courses about the Wire are taught at Johns Hopkins and Harvard to name a few."
Professors teach courses on many TV shows, for example: Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It doesn't mean a great deal. For the record, I like BtVS, that's not a diss.
"If he would live today he would look like a naive idiot."
Why? Be the example, not part of the herd. Be the best person you can be. Question why you're doing this, what value does this bring to my life. I don't watch The Wire because I believe it has nothing to offer me, but misery and depression.
In the same way that I no longer watch pornography. The woman in the clip might be drugged, she might be under age or she might regret her decision. And yet millions of people watch pornography. I also will not watch Torture Porn films, because I have empathy and they offer no value to my life. They celebrate the worst of humanity. Does this make me a naive idiot? No. But yet, I am in the minority.
I would rather look up to someone like Pike and Picard, than Walter White and Nucky Thompson, or even Don Draper. Who are all anti-heroes. People like them even though they are essentially the bad guy and deeply flawed. It's like the people who cheer on the villain in slasher movies. The Wire is full of anti-heroes, both the drug dealers and the detectives.
"I just read the wiki page that courses about the Wire are taught at Johns Hopkins and Harvard to name a few."
Professors teach courses on many TV shows, for example: Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It doesn't mean a great deal. For the record, I like BtVS, that's not a diss.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
@Cody B.
I've never been a fan of anti-hero shows, where even the good guys are flawed (and might as well be the bad guys.) I see no hope there. Just misery and depression. We're asked to admire and like the bad guys. See Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead. Although I have watched both of those series. Breaking Bad, once (it was watchable but hardly great), and I gave up on the Walking Dead after the disgraceful baseball bat incident. I just knew down the line they'd ask us to embrace Negan (and that's what's happening now.)
The Wire is a very niche show with a few million viewers (worldwide) and a bunch of critics bigging it up. As you said, other people see the acclaim and repeat (whether they really like it or not.) I'm not saying that some people don't like it. Or that some people don't love it. I have no interest in drug dealers and I'm no longer in my twenties (or sadly thirties) so I can't relate to the youth depicted in the show, thankfully. I have seen The Wire (s1 and 2) once and it walks a fine line between dissing and glamorizing their behavior. Many gangs no doubt gravitate towards the show (seeing themselves in the characters)
I prefer good role models and admirable behavior, hope and idealism. This is why I like Pike on Discovery, because I am of a similar age to him - he is relatable and someone to look up to.
@Cody B.
I've never been a fan of anti-hero shows, where even the good guys are flawed (and might as well be the bad guys.) I see no hope there. Just misery and depression. We're asked to admire and like the bad guys. See Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead. Although I have watched both of those series. Breaking Bad, once (it was watchable but hardly great), and I gave up on the Walking Dead after the disgraceful baseball bat incident. I just knew down the line they'd ask us to embrace Negan (and that's what's happening now.)
The Wire is a very niche show with a few million viewers (worldwide) and a bunch of critics bigging it up. As you said, other people see the acclaim and repeat (whether they really like it or not.) I'm not saying that some people don't like it. Or that some people don't love it. I have no interest in drug dealers and I'm no longer in my twenties (or sadly thirties) so I can't relate to the youth depicted in the show, thankfully. I have seen The Wire (s1 and 2) once and it walks a fine line between dissing and glamorizing their behavior. Many gangs no doubt gravitate towards the show (seeing themselves in the characters)
I prefer good role models and admirable behavior, hope and idealism. This is why I like Pike on Discovery, because I am of a similar age to him - he is relatable and someone to look up to.
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
I could never get into The Wire. I persevered and dropped it after season 2. If the subject matter is of no interest, then what's the point? The show is hugely overrated. Discovery however is growing on me. I stopped watching it at the beginning of this season and have been catching up. Those visuals are damn impressive! And the story line is getting better. Pike is perfectly cast and to me, easily the best character on the show - because the actor is a great actor. He doesn't look one note, he actually acts, with feeling, sometimes he smiles and laughs, other times he's serious. He could hold the show together like Stewart did with early TNG, so it's a shame he's leaving after season 2.
If CBS want a spin-off, Pike is the way to go, not Georgiou.
I could never get into The Wire. I persevered and dropped it after season 2. If the subject matter is of no interest, then what's the point? The show is hugely overrated. Discovery however is growing on me. I stopped watching it at the beginning of this season and have been catching up. Those visuals are damn impressive! And the story line is getting better. Pike is perfectly cast and to me, easily the best character on the show - because the actor is a great actor. He doesn't look one note, he actually acts, with feeling, sometimes he smiles and laughs, other times he's serious. He could hold the show together like Stewart did with early TNG, so it's a shame he's leaving after season 2.
If CBS want a spin-off, Pike is the way to go, not Georgiou.
Re: VOY S7: Inside Man
I mean they don’t even show 7 of 9 getting back to the ship from the escape pod. They don’t explain what happened to the Ferengi. And how did an escape pod shake the Ferengi ship like that? Nothing about the ending made sense. Perhaps the reruns cut out scenes that aired during its initial run??
I mean they don’t even show 7 of 9 getting back to the ship from the escape pod. They don’t explain what happened to the Ferengi. And how did an escape pod shake the Ferengi ship like that? Nothing about the ending made sense. Perhaps the reruns cut out scenes that aired during its initial run??
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