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Crobert
Fri, May 14, 2021, 7:16am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S1: A Man Alone

Wow...Keiko gives off serious "Karen" vibes and we're like 4 hours into this thing.

Please tell me this isn't going to be the normal. I've seriously not yet seen anything redeeming about her. Whether it's Skyler White or Betty Draper writers just can't seem to write a wife character without making her a shrill, joyless ball buster.

Don't get me wrong - at some point I was definitely on Skyler and Betty's sides because they were married to absolute garbage human beings but that doesn't mean they weren't still just awful spouses in their own right.
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Crobert
Fri, May 14, 2021, 7:06am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S1: Emissary

Sisko speaking his mind to Picard is my favorite part of this episode and I *love* Picard.

Surprised so many people don't like it. Yes, it is irrational - that's the point. And Picard because he, too, is irrational in the guilt he holds onto. It was a genius bit of writing because it hearkens back to a huge event that should have had far greater shockwaves in TNG. It shows us that Sisko has an edge that the 3 shift rotationers on the Enterprise don't.

It's great writing and great TV for all those reasons and more. The fact it stuck with so many of you being one of them.

Sisko was wrong. That doesn't make it bad writing it makes it realistic. He wasn't there to see what Picard went through. His only exposure to the Borg was probably getting blown up into widowerhood. It would be very, very easy to convince yourself that you lost your wife because some flagship captain couldn't keep his shit together while in enemy hands.

I loved Sisko from the moment that happened.
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Crobert
Tue, May 11, 2021, 3:55am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Qpid

Vash is an annoying Irene Adler ripoff.

I can handle goofy Robinhood stuff just fine, but I don't buy her as a character let alone a Picard love interest.
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Crobert
Tue, May 11, 2021, 3:51am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Nth Degree

I don't like episodes that should result in giant technological leaps forward but instead just end with credits and the show goes back to its normal routine.

It was fun seeing Barclay become a badass but it's always funny to me that after all this he apparently just goes back to being a nervous wreck engineer on Geordi's team. You'd think that Starfleet would have wanted to study him to see what else they could learn.
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Crobert
Mon, May 10, 2021, 5:58am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

The most remarkable thing about this episode is how the writers almost certainly never envisioned how it would suddenly become relevant with the advent of deepfakes and how famous people must feel about their likeness being used for AI-generated porn that is more and more indistinguishable from reality.

I liked a lot about how they developed the Brahms and Geordi relationship, it felt mostly realistic which is high praise considering how most of the single-episode relationships go down in TNG.
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Crobert
Mon, May 10, 2021, 5:49am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Devil's Due

I found this episode tedious and goofy. There was never a moment where we thought Arda was really the devil and I don't think we were ever supposed to. So it just became a question of 'how is Arda running this scam' and the answer wasn't particularly clever.
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Crobert
Sun, May 9, 2021, 4:41am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Data's Day

Very fun episode not just for the premise but for the break from the usual method of story telling employed on TNG. Plus Data has yet to ever be a character I didn't enjoy.

I also really enjoy how at least one later episode references events from this one. I wouldn't have minded if TNG did that more often but maybe too much more and they would have been overdoing it.
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Crobert
Sun, May 9, 2021, 4:38am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Loss

I think the idea of Troi losing her powers was a good one but it was her completely childish meltdowns as a result that resulted in a truly terrible delivery of that premise.

A friend lost his vision in his early 20s to an undiagnosed neurological condition. When he was first admitted to the hospital he was upbeat and hopeful but gradually sunk into a deep moodiness and stopped being helpful to the medical staff until it was pointed out that he was hurting his own care by not participating. He snapped out of the funk and started working with the staff again.

I would have rather seen something like that with Troi falling into a depression. People handle grief and loss in all sorts of ways and lashing out childishly is absolutely one of those ways but that doesn't make for a good TV viewing experience.

I did not feel empathy for Troi because she was acting less like someone suffering loss and more like a spoiled brat who had their favorite toy taken away.
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Crobert
Sun, May 9, 2021, 4:32am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Final Mission

Do the TNG writers ever wrap their head around the reality that people can make bad choices or mistakes without being pigheaded assholes or comically inept buffoons?

Dirgo's actions aren't the problem it's the hamfisted way they wrote him going about it all.

I will say, the scenes with them outside held up remarkably well from a production standpoint.
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Crobert
Sun, May 9, 2021, 4:26am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Menage a Troi

It's a wacky rape storyline!
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Robert
Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 7:25pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Covenant

Is there any connection between the symbol the cult used and the album cover for Judas Priest's "Sin After Sin"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_After_Sin
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Crobert
Tue, Apr 13, 2021, 5:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Future Imperfect

I enjoy these silly little mystery episodes and I didn't mind how it unraveled. I actually really, really didn't like the idea that the Romulans were behind it because had that been the reality it should have precipitated war or an escalation that I don't think ever happens (I've never made it past the first few episodes of DS9)
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Crobert
Tue, Apr 13, 2021, 4:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Reunion

Such a bummer they killed her off. She was one of the best recurring characters and one of the stronger actors.
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Crobert
Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 5:17pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Legacy

I feel like this was a poor first attempt to start trying to leverage the Tasha Yar character's story.

I was not moved by very much at all about the performance but I did find myself wishing we had gotten more from Data revealing that maybe he had actually developed a romantic love for Yar given that they engaged in sinful pre-marital congress.

This was definitely a 'eyes glaze over out of a lack of interest' episode for me.
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Crobert
Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 5:15pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Remember Me

So far this is easily the best Bev episode. It plays to her few strengths as an actor quite well. She's just really sort of a one-note performer unable to convincingly display anything other than compassion for her patients and her trademark "Deer in headlights" type of performance. Once you get outside of confusion or compassion she rapidly drops to bottom of the cast in terms of performance. I almost never believe her scenes with Wesley, for instance, and rapidly become aware that I'm watching Gates McFadden trying to act.

I can't remember any other episode that focused on her that I enjoyed this much. The writing of the alternate reality's crew gets pretty absurd but that's ok given the whole scenario. I enjoyed the callback to the Traveler, I wish he had become a bigger piece of the Trek universe. Maybe he does and I've simply forgotten?
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Crobert
Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 5:10pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Brothers

I enjoyed the episode well enough but at the same time I found it borderline irresponsible. Ok, irresponsible isn't the right word but I feel like writers need to think about the logical impact of a story before they write it.

Here we see a routine remotely triggered that turns Data into the ultimate mutineer who could have easily killed the entire ship's crew. This is, to put it lightly, a glaring fucking issue that never gets addressed. There's no way you could allow a Lt. Commander on the flagship of the federation to continue to serve if he can be remotely commandeered.

This episode should have never been written the way it was. Ok the stupid poisoning plot device can stay there just have the cure be something very rare. The Enterprise races to the one place where the cure can be found. Beam down Data and whoever else. Data gets his hands on the cure and then boom is kidnapped by some of Soong's other robits who then transport him to Soong after disabling/removing Data's badge. You can still have the pressure of of the poison subplot without opening up a can of worms with Data and how vulnerable the Enterprise is if he can be remote controlled.
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Crobert
Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 5:04pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Family

RE: Picard's brother "needing" a beatdown:

I thought the point of this episode is that big bro deliberately leaned into all of his luddite tendencies and jealousy of Jean Luc to elicit a response from him. Sure, he felt all of those things but I thought it was a brother's attempt to shake up his sibling to get them to start to face the trauma they had endured.

Love this episode, just wish we had gotten more from the brother before this episode because it would have made the brotherly bond and attempt to help land better.
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Crobert
Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 4:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Suddenly Human

I loved this episode - surprised to see how disliked it seems to be.

It was a rare solid performance by a child actor. Yeah it was trope-y but a lot of that was only in retrospect. I think people forget the times. Dances With Wolves was one of the first major motion pictures to cast the 'good guys' in a negative light. This is a different time - showing the Federation as the wrong place for this child ran contrary to a lot of the threads of pro-Imperialism/American exceptionalism that were still pretty current in our society at that time.

My main qualm with it sounds petty but it annoyed THE SHIT out of me.

Why, in the everloving fuck, would Worf OF ALL PEOPLE say that a child isn't worth a war. The Klingon notion of honor that we've seen to this point is that it's perfectly fine to shed any amount of blood because someone questioned your orders. But a child that, for all Worf knew, was kidnapped and tortured? Worf should have been dying to kick the shit out of the Telarians over this.
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Crobert
Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 4:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Best of Both Worlds, Part II

Stupid storyline, waste of time. Really wish they had gotten back to more important storylines like revisiting the drunk Irish people from Up the Down Ladder.

Ok seriously - what more needs to be said about one of the best two-parters in the history of network TV? It laid the groundwork for so much great stuff and whatever holes I could find in the storytelling are lost in just simply enjoying the episode.

This made Justice, Shades of Grey, all of the just ridiculously awful episodes worth it.
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Crobert
Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 4:07pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: Pen Pals

@Silly:

lmao @ "But a Q type being shows up, and Picard and everybody are all like “tell us everything!!”

Amazingly true!

The "Prime Directive" is too inflexible and zero-tolerance policies often leave harm in their wake. I wish the Federation, at the very least, had some sort of outreach program where members of the Federation would embed in the civilization, make discoveries that were rapid but followed a logical progression and laid out a course for establishing contact within a period of time rather than just leaving civilizations to their own devices.

"Discovering" telescopes, electricity, and radio waves are things I think could be done in most of the societies we've seen PD episodes about without fully disrupting them.

But again - the foundation of the Prime Directive is nonsense. Because one generation of a species might have its social order and beliefs disturbed better to let generation after generation wallow in ignorance and suffering.
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Crobert
Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 5:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

This episode was pretty good, as far as Bev eps go but it was waaaaaay too spiritual for a Next Generation episode. I love me a good dose of hippie shit, but it was really really out of place for this show but primarily in how it was all presented.

I appreciate the idea of a race being so far advanced that they seem like magic even to our future Federation friends, but it needed to be handled differently. Having the guy snap his fingers and turn into his glowy, ultra-peaceful final form was too abrupt.

No major complaints, otherwise, but the main plot just didn't feel ike a TNG episode.
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Crobert
Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 7:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Menage a Troi

I'm an old grandpa so I remember a lot of the sentiments that lingered from the times before and around this episode was made.

Rape was still something that was used to titillate audiences, an artifact of a time when a horny woman had to say "No" even (or especially) if she desperately wanted a deep dicking. Probably the best example of this lingering sexual cancer is Slave Leia in Return of the Jedi.

Still, this episode was brutal in that regard. Even in the case of Slave Leia all you see is Jabba holding her close and licking her lips then we get a side wipe so we don't know what he did. *EVERYTHING* about the scene that follows Lwaxana making out with Tog looks like post-coital bliss and it makes me incredibly uncomfortable because she was, at the very least, sexually coerced/assaulted into kissing her kidnapper and the show's resolution of the A storyline gives us nothing in terms of justice for her. It's an episode that is a product of its times, sure, but it's still wholly reprehensible in terms of how the issues it presented were handled.

It's an episode that is enjoyable if you don't factor in the rape/coercion/kidnapping but all that stuff looms so large that I wish this episode didn't exist.
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Crobert
Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 6:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Sarek

Loved this episode. Genuinely unsure why someone's views on "PC" culture has anything to do with that...

As much as I can remember this was the best instance of bridging the gap from TOS to TNG since Admiral McCoy in the pilot. Savak is fantastic and does a great job of showing his deterioration. I didn't know Vulcans were telepathic - has that always been the case?

Unlike others, it seems, I could have done without the scene where Picard is overwhelmed by Savak's emotions. Nothing wrong with Stewart's acting or anything else it just wasn't the sort of thing I really wanted to see from Vulcan/Human interactions.

Not a lot here that is bad, I enjoyed the whole episode from end to end.
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Crobert
Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 5:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Most Toys

A fine episode, I've loved Rubinek since his role in Unforgiven. Just a fantastic actor and portraying a character who is such a little shit.

As has been noted by others the Troi issue rears its head here as she's conveniently not around when her powers would pretty much end the storyline. If you have to conveniently write a character out of story after story maybe that's a bad character?

It felt like it had been a while since we had a truly Data-heavy episode but even in this one, similar to the episode with Tam and the sentient ship, he's really second fiddle and in more of a reactionary role. Loved him essentially shutting down when Fajo was trying to show him off.

Minor quibble - Wouldn't Fajo be scared to show Data off? Seems to me that someone, eventually, would get the bright idea of diming Fajo to one of the major and powerful organizations out there that he's got a fully functioning one-of-a-kind android that they might want to grab so they could copy. It wouldn't take someone being aware of Data in the first place to see the potential value of an android to the Federation, Ferengi, Romulan, Klingons, et al.
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Crobert
Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 5:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Ensigns of Command

Yes. I wouldn't do it so nobody should. FINALLY someone who understands. Good job, Luke!
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