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Patrick D
Sun, Jun 2, 2019, 4:49pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S1: Emissary

Jammer's aside that DS9 was deeper than TNG is an interesting point. I disagree. But, on that same track, I think TNG (and TOS) were a lot more fun and inspiring. I could practically anyone into TNG (and Firefly), but I've found DS9 one of the hardest sells ever. The show is DARK. One could tally how many titles of the episodes features the words, "Blood", "Death", or "Darkness" and other negative sounding titles. How many episodes are centered around war, death, cruelty, terrorism and things of that nature. How many episodes use the Ferengi as the only things to lighten the proceedings in a in a ham fisted way. DS9 is a mature television, but it's not escapist entertainment.
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Rick S
Tue, May 21, 2019, 9:09am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Far Beyond the Stars

I just saw this episode and was blown away by how relevant it is to these modern times. Perhaps my favorite episode of Trek for me so far (TNG, now DS9). Wow.
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Maverick
Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 4:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

Wow... it's been a while since i don't post anything here.
Been watching Discovery and coming here (most times a little late) to see peoples reactions and points of view on the series.
I just realized watching the last 3 episodes whats Discovery seems to be for me: It's Enterprise on steroids.
I started getting interested in trek when a was about 10 to 12 yo, thanks to my father who loved the TOS movies. After wathing all, some years later a begin watching in that order: TNG, DS9, VOY, TOS e ENT. On every single incarnation of trek, I can point my favorite episode, i remember them in detail. Same happens with the worst of every series, except Enterprise. I enjoy the show, but i've never took a single outstanding moment from that. Never had a absolute favorite or absolute worst. Everything was kind of in between. A can't remember a single episode in detail. And mind that I've just finished watching ENT about 4 years ago. Now, Discovery gave me the exactly same feeling. I just finished watching the damn thing and i can't remember any relevant detail from 5 episodes ago (I can't even remember witch was that episode). I never rush to watch the just-released episodes (I live in Brazil, and we receive them via Netflix with 1 day delay). Theres no excitement or expectations. It was just mildly entertaining. I'll admit i just love this incarnation of capt. Pike. That was the outstanding moment of the series, and i wish they could keep with the enterprise instead of following Discovery in the future. I'll also bet that they'll problably won't last more than 4 seasons, as Enterprise, because there's little "real trek" content to keep fans interested.
All that said, i still pretend to watch it till it ends, and, just as Enterprise, with just enough curiosity and wonderment to keep me going.
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Ricky
Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 3:30pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Cause and Effect

Cause and Effect is a great episode and I love it.

BUT!! There's one huge problem I have with this episode. The problem is that this episode of TNG ends right at the most interesting part. All of the time loop shenanigans were great and the story they told with them landed pretty well; but this needed to be a two-part episode, the debrief between Picard and Dr. Crane would have been compelling and emotional.

You could have had a "fish out of water" type of episode as the second half, with the Enterprise crew helping the distraught crew of the Bozeman come to terms with the fact that everyone they know and love are dead, the world has changed dramatically, and Klingons are now accepted in polite society.

Great episode but a huge missed opportunity.
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Patrick
Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 7:08am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: All the World Is Birthday Cake

Hold on now, Santa does too exist!
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Patrick D
Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 9:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Brother

In light of the return of Discovery, I made a quiz for anyone who thinks they have what it takes to make a modern Trek show:

DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE THE CREATOR OF A NEW STAR TREK SERIES? (by Patrick D)

1. Will your Trek series/movie take place in Trek's past?

A. No
B. Yes

2. Have you watched The Original Series?

A. Yes
B. Does watching old parodies of it, count?

3. What's the inspiration for your new Star Trek series?

A. Firefly
B. The New Battlestar Galactica
C. A and B

4. What's your favorite Star Trek Movie?

A. Wrath of Khan
B. Wrath of Khan
C. A New Hope
D. All of the above

5. Will your Trek series/movie try to adhere one iota to continuity?

A. Yes
B. What am I? A fucking nerd?

6. What will your Trek series/movie feature?

A. Green Animal Women!
B. Space Battles!
C. Klingons!
D. The Mirror Universe!
F. Khaaaaaan!
G. Tribbles!
H. Section 31!
I. Thoughtful, exploration of the human condition through a humanistic lens
J. All of the above, except "I".


IF YOU HAVE CIRCLED THE BOTTOM CHOICE FOR EACH QUESTION: CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE HIRED!
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Patrick
Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 4:26am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Blink of an Eye

Why didn't Voyager stay nearby for a couple weeks so they can perform literally THOUSANDS of years of research on methods that might help them get home faster?
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Patrick
Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 4:11am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Author, Author

The thing that annoyed me was when the Doctor, when defending himself, claimed Voyager is all he knows, so that's all he could write about.

What about when he was on that planet where timed moved faster than the rest of the universe? He lived there on that planet for YEARS.
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PatrickD
Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 10:54am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

Before people start piling on me, let me tell you a story. I was sexually molested for YEARS when when I was a child by a MALE. Unwanted, full-on sodomy. Second of all, I'm a bisexual, so I know a thing or two about anal sex. During that extremely long patch of time when I was recovering from what was done to me, Star Trek pretty much was the thing that kept my sanity together for a good decade and a half. The stories and philosophy was a respite from the awfulness of real life. So, when I see this beautiful creation that has meant so much to myself and millions of others being turned into a mindless, shoot-em-up cash cow, I get a little defensive. So, I will use the term, "defiled" from now on. Happy, everyone?
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Derrick
Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 7:48am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Suddenly Human

This episode was ridiculous. While it brought up an interesting moral dilemma with far-reaching real world implications, the ending was absurdly horrible.

A child prisoner of war illegally given up for adoption. He had unconfirmed signs of physical abuse but certain signs of psychological damage, from collapsing in emotional agony to a form of attempted suicide by police. This resulted from said kidnapping and an outright called by name Stockholm Syndrome. His 2500 day brainwashing is so extensive he has made almost no progress from his psychological damage and as a child still wants to stay with his kidnapper. So against the wishes of his legitimate defacto legal guardian grandmother who also outranks the captain, and without the recommendation of the medical personnel who should have clearly had the child under 24/7 observation, the victim is returned to the abuser who's laughably incapable military couldn't be a credible threat in war without fake SOS signals.

Picard should be in prison in life, dishonorably discharged, and used as a textbook bad example for all ethics classes to come.
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PatrickD
Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

The 4th season of Star Trek: Enterprise provided the template for what Trek is now for the last 14 years and frankly it has just decimated this once venerable franchise. While season 4 was really the only watchable season of the series, it's non-stop fan-service was just low hanging fruit. Want something like "The Measure of a Man" or "The Inner Light" in your Trek? Tough luck. We have Section 31 (again) and The Mirror Universe (again) to keep the average viewer, I guess, entertained. ("See Star Trek: Picard as he battles an alliance of The Borg and the Dominion and only a pact with Section 31 and the denizens of the Mirror Universe can save the day!") But, here's the thing: if Star Trek: Discovery was cancelled and the JJ Trek movies (along with any other Trek projects) were no longer made, the average viewer wouldn't care. In fact it wouldn't even be much of a blip in Entertainment Weekly. Remember when "All Good Things..." was a cultural event?

Where did Trek go wrong? Was it when Deep Space Nine altered what Trek was supposed to be about that it's practically unrecognizable from Gene Roddenberry's vision? Is it the 10-year bout of sustained mediocrity with Voyager and Enterprise? How did we get here? How do we fix it? (Personally, I think the Powers that Be need to study up on what made TOS and TNG what they were. Examine what made those two shows work beyond the superficiality of Klingons, Tribbles, and green animal women.)

[Also, "dry ass-raping" is apt for this franchise."]
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Patrick D
Mon, Nov 26, 2018, 9:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

^^
Well said, Jangus!

This video sums up how I feel about people who complain about "too much political correctness" in Star Trek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX1oYSNPV5k

Seriously, have they been watching the same franchise as the rest of us?
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Patrick D
Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 5:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

@ Jason R.

I concur. Star Trek was a *hell* of a lot more popular and a pop culture juggernaut in 1991 with only TOS and TNG. The 25th Anniversary of Trek was an EVENT. Two years ago was the 50th anniversary and it was a barely a blip on the cultural radar.

Even Back to the Future which only features 3 films (and a short-lived animated series) is still a touchstone that subsequent generations have embraced. They didn't have to bludgeon the public with more, more, MORE content like say...fucking STAR WARS. Harry Potter is only seven books and it's a pop culture behemoth.

Quantity of content is meaningless if the quality isn't there.
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Patrick D
Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 8:03am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

Maybe CBS should scrap the lame Star Trek comedy series and put the money towards remastering Deep Space Nine in HD? They could advertise it and everything!
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Patrick D
Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 1:16am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

I gave up on the show after the second episode and have had no desire to revisit it ever again. I might give it a chance if they start doing episodes like "The City on the Edge of Forever", or "The Measure of a Man" or "The Inner Light"...but, I'm not holding my breath. (And that goes for the Picard show too).
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Patrick
Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 1:41am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S6: A Fistful of Datas

Both Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner — that is, probably the two most talented actors in the history of Star Trek — thought very highly of this episode.

Of course, they’re artists, not Trekkers, so they can see a few things the average fan cannot . . .
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Patrick
Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 3:05am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

Spot-on, Jason.

Connecting Satie with Trump strikes me as reflexive anti-Trumpism — though one could argue they are both bullies, Satie’s sinister arrogance seems to have little in common with Trump’s blustering self-satisfaction.

Perhaps an analogy with the Left’s obsession with a Trump-Russia conspiracy is a better fit for this episode, with the monomaniacal Rachel Maddow in the role of the articulate but unhinged Satie.

Of course, Rachel Maddow’s motivations are quite clear — the great weakness of The Drumhead is that Satie’s motivations were never made clear by the writers.

But there is still the pleasure of watching this fine example of Picard’s principled Stoicism, even within a fairly implausible scenario.
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Patrick
Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 10:52pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

wolfstar is 100% right by the way. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.
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Patrick
Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 10:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

Wow, a lot of alt-righters here, and a lot of people who likewise don't understand Star Trek one bit.

Trek is meant to be episodic, and it's meant to have "fluff" episodes. That's a big part of what Trek is: a mix of story types and adventures.

Also, a lot of you don't know a damn thing about racism whatsoever.

I've lost a lot of respect for this site and its commentators.
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Patrick Wells Valenti
Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 6:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S7: Chimera

I'm watching through for the first time, and this is now my favorite episode I've seen of DS9, possibly of Trek ever. And that ending, wow, really made me tear up.
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Patrick
Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:05pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Qpid

“The plot is nonexistent.” Indeed. But are you really so immune to the charms of Q, Vash, and Picard in this episode?

Do you find “The Subway” and “The Chinese Restaurant” boring as well?

(Perhaps this is the wrong site to reference Seinfeld episodes . . . )
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Patrick
Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 7:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: Ferengi Love Songs

Per usual, Jammer doesn't have a sense of humor. Great comedy theater. One of the funnest episodes of the season.
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Patrick
Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 2:04pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: A Simple Investigation

I think this episode would have worked A LOT BETTER had it taken place in the first half of the season, when Odo was still human. It would have been a nice pay off to the set up of the Season 4 finale that Odo would become intimate with someone.

Then we could have seen him exploring his sexuality in human form, now that he has sexual organs and whatnot. (I doubt he ever took the time to make them before he was human).
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Patrick
Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 9:03pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: The Darkness and the Light

This episode sets up that it is a dark neo noir...then completely bails on its story and concept in the third act. It's utterly bizarre, and doesn't play fair with he audience at all.

The first two acts are an interesting murder mystery, but then the third act should be that the Bajoran woman faked her death and is the killer, as a way of trying to start over and erase the past. Instead what we get is a third act that has nothing to do with the rest of the story and is a crappy version of duet.

It's just plain bad writing.
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Patrick
Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:07pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: Let He Who Is Without Sin...

I couldn't disagree with Jammer and the comments more. This was a very good episode. I think people disliking it speaks more to the Trek fandom than to the writers, and is a good predictor for why things like "Gamer Gate" have occurred in the nerd community.

Primarily, this was a study of patriarchy and of how nerdy outsider men try to control women. Dax is a character who as a male in her past life as Curzon was known for being a very sexual person who loved to drink and flirt and joke around and have fun. Yet Jadzia as a woman is expected to not be sexual or fun or flirtatious whatsoever. The stick in the mud Worf expects her to be controlled by him, and be a trophy on his shoulder.

This causes Worf to lash out at the entire community, to deny everyone this vacationing and sexual experience because he feels it doesn't conform to his traditional values. This is a great predictor of many of the problems we have today in the gaming and online nerd communities.

It's also nice to see Trek explore a more sexual planet. Surely that would exist in this universe, correct? Many cultures throughout history have viewed sex differently than our more puritan based America.

It's also nice to see that since war is coming to the federation, people are beginning to give themselves over to more "traditional values", which are often the beginning of leaning to more fascist ideals. Through fear that the dominion will come and invade (which predicts where the series is going soon), people are willing to give up certain leasures and comforts and habbits, and will want to cling to more strict ideals, out of fear.

This was a very interesting episode that explored some very great socio-political concepts. But because so many Star Wars nerds are knee deep in patriarchal entitlement, the ep seems to have gone clear over their heads.

Not like Baywatch at all.
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