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PatrickD
Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 10:54am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

Before people start piling on me, let me tell you a story. I was sexually molested for YEARS when when I was a child by a MALE. Unwanted, full-on sodomy. Second of all, I'm a bisexual, so I know a thing or two about anal sex. During that extremely long patch of time when I was recovering from what was done to me, Star Trek pretty much was the thing that kept my sanity together for a good decade and a half. The stories and philosophy was a respite from the awfulness of real life. So, when I see this beautiful creation that has meant so much to myself and millions of others being turned into a mindless, shoot-em-up cash cow, I get a little defensive. So, I will use the term, "defiled" from now on. Happy, everyone?
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Derrick
Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 7:48am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Suddenly Human

This episode was ridiculous. While it brought up an interesting moral dilemma with far-reaching real world implications, the ending was absurdly horrible.

A child prisoner of war illegally given up for adoption. He had unconfirmed signs of physical abuse but certain signs of psychological damage, from collapsing in emotional agony to a form of attempted suicide by police. This resulted from said kidnapping and an outright called by name Stockholm Syndrome. His 2500 day brainwashing is so extensive he has made almost no progress from his psychological damage and as a child still wants to stay with his kidnapper. So against the wishes of his legitimate defacto legal guardian grandmother who also outranks the captain, and without the recommendation of the medical personnel who should have clearly had the child under 24/7 observation, the victim is returned to the abuser who's laughably incapable military couldn't be a credible threat in war without fake SOS signals.

Picard should be in prison in life, dishonorably discharged, and used as a textbook bad example for all ethics classes to come.
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PatrickD
Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:34pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

The 4th season of Star Trek: Enterprise provided the template for what Trek is now for the last 14 years and frankly it has just decimated this once venerable franchise. While season 4 was really the only watchable season of the series, it's non-stop fan-service was just low hanging fruit. Want something like "The Measure of a Man" or "The Inner Light" in your Trek? Tough luck. We have Section 31 (again) and The Mirror Universe (again) to keep the average viewer, I guess, entertained. ("See Star Trek: Picard as he battles an alliance of The Borg and the Dominion and only a pact with Section 31 and the denizens of the Mirror Universe can save the day!") But, here's the thing: if Star Trek: Discovery was cancelled and the JJ Trek movies (along with any other Trek projects) were no longer made, the average viewer wouldn't care. In fact it wouldn't even be much of a blip in Entertainment Weekly. Remember when "All Good Things..." was a cultural event?

Where did Trek go wrong? Was it when Deep Space Nine altered what Trek was supposed to be about that it's practically unrecognizable from Gene Roddenberry's vision? Is it the 10-year bout of sustained mediocrity with Voyager and Enterprise? How did we get here? How do we fix it? (Personally, I think the Powers that Be need to study up on what made TOS and TNG what they were. Examine what made those two shows work beyond the superficiality of Klingons, Tribbles, and green animal women.)

[Also, "dry ass-raping" is apt for this franchise."]
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Patrick D
Mon, Nov 26, 2018, 9:16pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

^^
Well said, Jangus!

This video sums up how I feel about people who complain about "too much political correctness" in Star Trek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX1oYSNPV5k

Seriously, have they been watching the same franchise as the rest of us?
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Patrick D
Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 5:21pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

@ Jason R.

I concur. Star Trek was a *hell* of a lot more popular and a pop culture juggernaut in 1991 with only TOS and TNG. The 25th Anniversary of Trek was an EVENT. Two years ago was the 50th anniversary and it was a barely a blip on the cultural radar.

Even Back to the Future which only features 3 films (and a short-lived animated series) is still a touchstone that subsequent generations have embraced. They didn't have to bludgeon the public with more, more, MORE content like say...fucking STAR WARS. Harry Potter is only seven books and it's a pop culture behemoth.

Quantity of content is meaningless if the quality isn't there.
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Patrick D
Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 8:03am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

Maybe CBS should scrap the lame Star Trek comedy series and put the money towards remastering Deep Space Nine in HD? They could advertise it and everything!
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Cetric
Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 10:30am (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S1: Mudd's Women

"Is this the kind of wife you want, Ben? Not someone to help you. Not a wife to cook and sew and cry and need. But this kind. Selfish, vain, useless."
It's strange to find these lines for whom Gene Roddenberry himself is credited as writer of this episode. Him having a reputation as chasing girls and using the 'cast couch'. So actually he is a fan of the dolly type or "trophy wife" as the vain, beautiful but useless woman is referred to in the comments. Does he question his own motives here? Does he like to depict men as weak victims of their testosterone, easy to manipulate and means himself?
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And I was aghast at the attitude of those miners. They would simply look on when a whole star ship of their species (and home world) would perish just because they could not get their deal agreed upon; dilithium crystals for Mudd's women. Does Kirk not have authority to force them if the life of his crew is at stake? If he has the authority to do a trial hearing on Mudd's past and intentions? Obviously he acts also as law enforcement in such situations, and where no regular local administration is present. He could have searched the mining facilities - and would have found the crystals, as the miner says at the end they are right there and don't need to be mined first.
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As for the mail order bride - it still is existing. And there is still the type of women who was once called a "golddigger" who has the main goal to trap a rich guy and that's all she wants for a good life, using her beauty and various little helpers to emphasize the effect. So basically that is a timeless phenomenon. In the Sixties, in our years, and possibly in the future Star Trek is depicting. A continuum. As you can't change human nature (hope so).
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Patrick D
Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 1:16am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: General Discussion

I gave up on the show after the second episode and have had no desire to revisit it ever again. I might give it a chance if they start doing episodes like "The City on the Edge of Forever", or "The Measure of a Man" or "The Inner Light"...but, I'm not holding my breath. (And that goes for the Picard show too).
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Cetric
Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 4:51am (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S3: Hatchery

OK, so it was a barren planet with no atmosphere and the insectoid corpses they found were crew members which suffocated while making sure the hatchery was preserved. Away team comes in with protective suits and helmets on, obviously could not breath before reaching the hatchery which had a sort of airlock in front which pressurized while they were in. So far, so good...
... Later on everyone walks around in the ship wreck as if oxygen were no longer an issue (planetwise obviously) and the end about leaving 19 insectoid hatchlings running around with no suffocation risk complies with that. A logic failure of the storyline, making the barren planet suddenly a place which enables life conditions (or where would the oxygen come from with no plants producing it?).
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However, if we remember a couple of ENT episodes, where a story detail did not make much sense for the episode alone, but turned out to be significant for the whole Xindi arc, the fact Enterprise helped insectoid Xindi hatchlings survive could later on reveal as an important detail which might influence the attitude of the Xindi towards Terrans/Earthlings at one point. We'll see.
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Volumétrica
Sun, Sep 23, 2018, 9:13pm (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S1: Fight or Flight

A solid character piece, Definitely agree that most of the crew relationships are really casual/informal. A stark contrast to the structures that we saw in all of the other series.

The missiles being useless was a good time. Enjoyed the trial and error. The whole aesthetic of the panels and technology is believable. But what is T'pol looking at in that eye thing.

Phlox will be interesting, hopefully he is unique and not a EMH repeat. The EMH was great but gotta keep it fresh.

Spacesuits! Finally! The only Trek I can think of off the top of my head to use them was Voyager( Torres and Paris love float)




Two episodes in. No home runs but no pop flies( DS9 does not own baseball).
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Patrick
Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 1:41am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S6: A Fistful of Datas

Both Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner — that is, probably the two most talented actors in the history of Star Trek — thought very highly of this episode.

Of course, they’re artists, not Trekkers, so they can see a few things the average fan cannot . . .
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Cetric
Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 11:17am (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S3: Stratagem

Regarding that similarity to a Mission:Impossible plot, it isn't as late as season four what we want to look for, with episode "Submarine".
The ruse was done already in season one , episode 24, when they staged a fake train ride by hauling a disconnected railroad car into a hall and turning it into a simulator for target persons inside who have to be be kept believing they are traveling. Including basically the same machinery for giving bumps and screening of a passing landscape in front of the windows as done in the Enterprise episode.
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Richard Poythress
Sat, Jul 28, 2018, 12:20am (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S7: Flesh and Blood

Finally watched this episode all the way through. The pacing was unusually excellent for a Voyager episode; I could scarcely believe that an hour and half had elapsed when the end credits rolled. The camerawork and direction were also a cut above, which helped to make the "telefilm" feel special. Also, I'm (pleasantly) surprised the censors let them keep that shockingly graphic shot of blood spurting into the camera lens.

In some ways, this episode takes us full circle by exploring issues raised early in TNG's run with sentient holograms like Minuet and Moriarty. The end result is a thoughtful and relevant exploration both of the understandable yearnings and unnecessary violence that often accompany liberation movements.

To muster a feeble criticism, it was jarring when Iden went from zero to deluded psychopath in a manner of a few minutes, but I suppose we could attribute that to either deception or the overriding aggression that he was programed to display under stressful situations. It also seems like the Doctor got off easy after betraying the crew, although this is remedied somewhat in "Author, Author".
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Patrick
Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 3:05am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

Spot-on, Jason.

Connecting Satie with Trump strikes me as reflexive anti-Trumpism — though one could argue they are both bullies, Satie’s sinister arrogance seems to have little in common with Trump’s blustering self-satisfaction.

Perhaps an analogy with the Left’s obsession with a Trump-Russia conspiracy is a better fit for this episode, with the monomaniacal Rachel Maddow in the role of the articulate but unhinged Satie.

Of course, Rachel Maddow’s motivations are quite clear — the great weakness of The Drumhead is that Satie’s motivations were never made clear by the writers.

But there is still the pleasure of watching this fine example of Picard’s principled Stoicism, even within a fairly implausible scenario.

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Patrick
Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 10:52pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

wolfstar is 100% right by the way. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.
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Patrick
Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 10:48pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

Wow, a lot of alt-righters here, and a lot of people who likewise don't understand Star Trek one bit.

Trek is meant to be episodic, and it's meant to have "fluff" episodes. That's a big part of what Trek is: a mix of story types and adventures.

Also, a lot of you don't know a damn thing about racism whatsoever.

I've lost a lot of respect for this site and its commentators.
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Patrick Wells Valenti
Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 6:51pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: Chimera

I'm watching through for the first time, and this is now my favorite episode I've seen of DS9, possibly of Trek ever. And that ending, wow, really made me tear up.
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Patrick
Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:05pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Qpid

“The plot is nonexistent.” Indeed. But are you really so immune to the charms of Q, Vash, and Picard in this episode?

Do you find “The Subway” and “The Chinese Restaurant” boring as well?

(Perhaps this is the wrong site to reference Seinfeld episodes . . . )
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Cetric
Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 4:19am (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S1: Charlie X

Great episode. Story, characters, development of plot. Even without the later joking/teasing remark at the closing moment of the show, you feel the chemistry between them is working as early as here.
I don't see the smiling of Spock while playing his instrument and being mocked by Uhura's singing as contradictionary to his character. He could just pretend not to bother about her but being concentrated on his own music thereby. We see them off duty in a recreational setting so the formalities don't apply here as they would on the bridge.
Playing chess, doing exercises in the gym, playing cards and nipping at drinks while socializing - the show does a good job at showing casual life on board of a ship en voyage. Also scenes with crewmembers working on engineer tasks, all this while developing the story around Charlie, or even the traffic in the corridors - it's enjoyable how the Enterprise is fleshed out as a ship with a living crew doing their job and having fun besides shifts on duty. They manage to do that without looking awkward or wooden, it has a 'natural' look. Something you don't see too such extent for example on ST Enterprise from 2003 so far I have accompanied its episodes (3rd season). TOS does the show and atmosphere very well and contributes to the authenticy it wants to convey.
And all this besides a strong story. Chapeau!
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Cetric
Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 6:05am (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S3: North Star

Bringing Wild West sets and stories into SciFi happens to be a pain in the ass each time it is attempted, and it was done several time across the various Star Trek series, starting with TOS. Why?
Wild West is Americana in purest form. So I think the show feels like it has to serve this at least once for it is basically American TV entertainment, makes feel people at home and stuff. A little playing around with cliches alright.
Second reason is there seems always a bunch of Wild West decos, sets and props around in a studio so why not use them for other shows? As they are cheap and just have to get borrowed...
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The execution of the plot however was sound and flawless from professional point of view. Down to a rougher film material (or digital simulation of such) with mostly dusty brownish colors like in old western films.
Plotwise, I agree it is strange a colony of less than 10.000 people could still produce window glass, steel, ammunition and what else which requires technology and manufacturing. The presence of horses has been questioned for a reason. And it would have been more humanlike to adopt as much of the Skag technology as possible instead of extinguishing it completely and leave behind only ruins of a ship (did those alien colonists not build homes for themselves which must have looked different than those of 19th century Humans?).
The presence of the Enterprise crew I see justified by the discovery of Humans (in the sense of Earth people, DNA-wise, as has been said) on that planet. A month-long search for Xindi certainly leaves a day or two for opportunities like this. And you never know, from Archers point of view, if this exploration does not produce some connection with the Xindi which could be worth their time down there. As the series has already the connection Xindi-Humans, it makes sense to examine an isolated surprising presence of Humans accordingly.
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Patrick
Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 7:02pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: Ferengi Love Songs

Per usual, Jammer doesn't have a sense of humor. Great comedy theater. One of the funnest episodes of the season.
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Patrick
Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 2:04pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: A Simple Investigation

I think this episode would have worked A LOT BETTER had it taken place in the first half of the season, when Odo was still human. It would have been a nice pay off to the set up of the Season 4 finale that Odo would become intimate with someone.

Then we could have seen him exploring his sexuality in human form, now that he has sexual organs and whatnot. (I doubt he ever took the time to make them before he was human).

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Cetric
Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 5:26pm (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S3: Exile

Fine episode, in everything. Except...
... Things just became a bit too much when telepathic talents were not enough for Tarquin and had to be added storywise by sort of demi-god powers, as to switch off all energy on a ship in orbit.

A guy with such capabilities and no ambition to take over the ship Archer should make one of his crew members, a win-win-win situation indeed:
(1) Tarquin no longer lonely and has some adventure
(2) Archer gains a joker card working by telepathy and super powers for the mission and maybe beyond (alien lives for hundreds of years)
(3) Hoshi finds time on board to learn to appreciate his character just as he does hers. Without the dire circumstances of the creepy hideout on the planet. I think she was not rejected by his looks, more by his infiltration and obtrusion. He is quick to apologize and withdraw, so there is something to play with....
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Just some ideas. :) And for whatever reason I don't miss Mayweather content.
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Cetric
Tue, Jun 26, 2018, 1:33am (UTC -6)
Re: ENT S3: Impulse

While I generally dislike the zombie genre and think the film industry pushed the narrative about this Caribbean-African myth (voodoo) for entertainment purposes too much over decades since 'White Zombie', Vulcans turning into beasts under devastating influence of Trellium make sense to me storywise.
You just have to look into their distorted, mutated faces to understand the effect goes more far than just switching off logic and turning on paranoia. The Vulcan chief engineer interrogated by T'Pol isn't capable of recognizing her, a former ship mate, lest saying something. He was turned into a beast, we have to assume what's left of the Vulcan brain is an animal-like horde drive which makes them behave like they do. And other physical changes go along with it.
However, the issue why they haven't killed each other in the months of being stuck here in the asteroid field is a viable one. Also, how they survived such long,, what they are eating meantime or how they keep the remaining ship systems alive? Repairs, we learn, have been tried (like that sealing effort discovered by the away team) to little extent.
Commentators blame Archer for letting them die and not taking them on board the Enterprice for rescue. I don't think he had a choice. First, there is the mission to find the Xindi, which would be thwarted with 140 madmen on board. Second, how to bring them over and where to keep them in such way they don't turn against the crew? The only reason to rescue them would be to find a cure or study the effect on them by scientists later on Vulcan. But does that not turn the sick into guinea pigs/lab mice? Something questionable in itself?
As it is no contagious disease, you don't have to find necessarily an antidote for saving Vulcan civilization - just don't fly into the expanse if you are Vulcan, that is the only conclusion.
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Atmosphere shown on the doomed vessel was excellently done and the exploration created tension. I was just wondering how that huge hole through the ship, evidently caused by a rock having shot through, did not cause a loss of air and what else comes deadly with no protection left from space.
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Patrick
Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 9:03pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: The Darkness and the Light

This episode sets up that it is a dark neo noir...then completely bails on its story and concept in the third act. It's utterly bizarre, and doesn't play fair with he audience at all.

The first two acts are an interesting murder mystery, but then the third act should be that the Bajoran woman faked her death and is the killer, as a way of trying to start over and erase the past. Instead what we get is a third act that has nothing to do with the rest of the story and is a crappy version of duet.

It's just plain bad writing.
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