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Tue, May 14, 2019, 1:49am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: The Deadly Years

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@Jason R.

I really must agree with most of your comments. My thought is (without reviewing the comments again), how could that fellow be a Commodore, above a Captain, having never commanded a ship? Did he get that commission by being a good "supplies" commander, over time? A "chair-bound paper-pusher"?

Then he dis-regards the comments of the junior officers about traveling across the neutral zone. Is there a bulge in it they cannot go around? Or are they on the other side so, so far away that they have to cut across it to save time and they'll wave hello to Romulus and Remus along the way? Even an idiot would have known to take the fastest safe passage that doesn't break the treaty.

On the other hand, when I was 12, and Checkov finds the body, I was hooked/stunned. And we had ships shooting? Oh my gosh! I still have a soft spot for this episode, but not as soft as it used to be. Even then, I wondered how the Commodore could be so... stupid. He'd have been "retired" as soon as they got back to the Starbase....

Enjoy the day Everyone... RT
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Sat, May 11, 2019, 1:24am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Memorial

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@acd hit it on the head for me. Partially fix the memorial, making it voluntary. Explain in the buoy message (multiple languages they've come across, I'd think) what the memorial is and what it says it's for. Tell about the BIG BUTTON they've added to it. Hit the button, relive the memory.

I thought about the ST:Voy episode Nemesis throughout the story.

Regards, Everyone... RT
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Fri, May 10, 2019, 9:37pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Virtuoso

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I won't post too much. I mostly agree with both the positive and negative assessments that have been posted before.

I did like how the folks on the planet didn't just say "Oh, you're right, we must see music your way" and went off doing their own thing.

But I did wonder how they never, even by accident, ever invented a wind chime? :)

Have a glorious day... RT
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Wed, May 8, 2019, 4:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Force of Nature

@Trish

I enjoyed that. Sounds like something I'd do/write. :)

Regards... RT
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Sat, May 4, 2019, 3:23am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

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I just watched this for my second time, using Hulu, and had missed the part about the special serum during the storm warnings. But, I didn't miss all that much. :)

I've seen a couple of comments saying something along the lines of "...if Ed isn't the Captain, the Kaylon win the battle..." (paraphrase), and those folks finding fault with Ed being the saving grace. It isn't just Ed. If Kelly doesn't get him this command, she isn't the second in command, and Gordon isn't on the ship either. After Kelly demanded to head out to find allies, with Gordon as the pilot, they never pull the stunt with the drive to get them to Krill space.

So, so many threads to pull, but that one stood out for me. Ed didn't save the Union, it was the people around him (since he was there as Captain) that saved the day (including Claire then dating Isaac).

On the other hand, if Kelly wasn't on the Orville, who notices LaMar is really smart and makes him the head of engineering? *ouch* *brain hurts again* At least, he Seemed to be an engineer when they went to the Trench to find the ship, as he was the only one in the engine room trying to make the plan go forward.

I just hope, if and when there is a third season, LaMar doesn't go blind...

Regards Everyone... just some... random thoughts...

RT
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Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 1:31am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

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Heh, I hate storm warnings. Glad it was only three minutes for me towards the beginning. I'll catch that up on Hulu. Same thing for Supernatural, which I'll catch up on at the CW app.

I was gratified one of my musings on the previous episode was right. They were not in the right place, at the right time, to prevent the Kaylon destruction of Earth. And boy, they didn't mess around. I'm thinking they took pieces of the Moon and shot them towards Earth, as those were some big craters. If that was the case, the atmosphere might have been more hazy though, from the ejecta.

Those flying heads were a neat surprise, but once again, why didn't Isaac use his head cannon to save them when they were stranded on that planet? And they don't seem to be all that stable when flying, since for the most part they were only successful in shooting the ground. They seem to do much better standing still.

And a question was answered for me from a previous episode, there are indeed Kaylon in those ships, they are not separate entities.

It was nice to see Alara.

It seems this version of Isaac didn't spend 700 years on a planet (my opinion) and didn't date the Doctor. It just had the original programming to learn for invasion. I think that means in the original timeline, Isaac did indeed develop empathy for the sentients it was observing.

The empty Orville, with a bit of interior damage from their takeover fight (I presume) did look creepy to me as they slowly walked along, but not over the top. I did expect to see some bodies around though. Maybe the Kaylon do indeed like their spaces to be neat and tidy, and there was a room full of bodies somewhere.

Yes, Kelly was bad for that small thought of hoping that timeline would remain. Ed was bad for not being shocked and appalled. I also said out loud "He's EATING HER FACE!". But I've never had to kiss someone, and feign passion, on camera. Maybe it's harder than it looks... :)

I thought they'd run into some Kaylon at Earth, then realized since it was blasted to rubble months before, why bother? They needed the ships to defeat other races.

It seems the Kaylon are indeed connected to each other in some way. Now I wonder, as others have, why they didn't know their guards were defeated in the shuttlebay in the earlier ep? Or when Isaac went rogue? Perhaps they have to actually "think" about it, just as we have to say something verbally after the thought hits us. I might be reaching though... :)

I also wondered why, when the Doctor was set to go back in time, she hadn't told them what to do beforehand? The clock is running, she's about to get on the table, and only then hurriedly gives them the instructions. A small point, but enough that I took notice. Maybe do the instructions off-camera, and have her say something more along the lines of "Do you remember what I told you to do?"

Overall, I liked this one. Not fantastic, but not horrible. I'll watch it again on Hulu, and not just to see the little bits I missed when they came on to tell us about the potential tornado. I'll give it a thumbs up.

Enjoy the day Everyone... RT
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Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 12:31am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

Hello Everyone!

I mentioned on a previous episode of The Orville about how many ST episodes have their roots in some other Sci-Fi show or movie, and that The Orville does the same. But do we add in a brief plot of some old movie we think a ST ep is drawn from? Not normally (but I've seen a few in the comments). Are some Orville's reminiscent of Trek? Yep. Did I mind? Nope. And do the gentle sentients that have not seen all 700+ episodes of Trek mind? I doubt it, any more than they would if a Trek was based off of a old movie they hadn't seen. I have seen them all (-Discovery), and still find this to be a nice take on things.

It's just, in the review (and thank you Jammer for these), there is a description of a TNG episode, so we will perhaps know where the writing is coming from for this one. But I honestly never thought of that episode at all until I saw the comments comparing this one to that. It came from a totally different circumstance, and goes in a mostly different direction. But there are two Kelly's, so it's felt a comparison must be made, since Thomas wanted to date Troi, and Ed still holds a flame for Kelly. But the stories are not the same.

I feel like I'm not being clear on my point though. After decades for some episodes, and a half century for others, at what point do those of us "in the know" stop comparing Orville to Trek? Or should we? It just seems to me it should be judged on its own merits a bit more, and not compared to the past quite so much.

Thank you for your time... RT
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Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 11:13pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S1: If Wishes Were Horses

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@bobbington mcbob

I truly laughed at that. Thanks! :)

Regards... RT
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Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 11:04pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: The Doomsday Machine

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@hifijohn

He did? I hadn't read that, but there are many things I haven't read. :)

He did do a reprise of his role in a fan-fic story/filmed episode. It was quite a few years ago, so I don't recall the name of the not-for-profit production, but the Enterprise goes back in time (shocked! :) ), and they find him in some way by accident, I think.

It seems the Doomsday Machine had a singularity at it's core, or something, and when he went in to commit suicide, it instead sent Decker through space and time. And there he was, on a viewscreen only (as I recall), talking to their version of Captain Kirk. He'd ended up living out his days on "old" Earth.

Perhaps, in the end, he didn't feel as bad about it as he had before. Hopefully, anyway. At least, he was nice enough to help them with their ST project. :)

Regards... RT
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Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 7:14am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

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I noticed the opening was different as well. I just figured the episode was running a minute or so long and they cut the opening instead of making a cut to a scene. While the Simpsons is a cartoon, they've done this many times when they needed an extra minute.

Regards... RT
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Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

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I generally liked the episode, a heavy thumbs up for me. Now for some thoughts...

I thought Ed was going to ask Kelly her opinion of him dating her younger self, not give her a "if not you, then it'll be her" statement (paraphrase). That felt weird. On the other hand, it was one of the unexpected moments of the episode, though not necessarily a good one. On the third hand, if I saw a seven-year-younger version of someone I'd dated, and they were into me without the knowledge of my many (smile) screw-ups, maybe I'd do it too. But... probably not with the older version down the hall from me.

I think they did a fantastic job of having the two Kelly's in the same shots. If I didn't know any better, I'd think they were twins. And the smoothing they did for "young" Kelly was pretty good. I kept looking for the smile or laugh lines on young Kelly that older Kelly has, and didn't see them.

Heh, I did enjoy seeing Bortus and Klyden having a good time together on the dance floor. Long time coming, that...

I thought it was a nice touch, in an emergency, they don't take the time to put on superfluous uniforms but show up wearing their sleepwear.

The shot of the Kaylon vessel passing above was pretty cool. :). And it was also good to see them again, and being a bit menacing at that. Also, after saying they were close, and seeming to lose them, it was nice to have them come back later, after I'd forgotten about them. I enjoyed that. Oh, and when they focused on the glass with the ice in it, I thought the next scene would be about the Captain having one too many or something, and was glad it was instead young Kelly's wheels turning.

I have not watched previews for any show since TNG wrecked "Cause and Effect" for me, but have gathered this is a two-parter. I must admit, I was sort of expecting a happy smile and whatnot from his 9am phone call (perhaps because of all the happy endings of ST), not her saying no. That really sort of floored me. If that changed the timeline, perhaps Ed would be Captain of a better ship, because he didn't head into the gutter. Maybe Kelly does indeed make Captain herself, learning from the mistakes of the future. Maybe the Kaylon invasion was successful because they weren't in the right place and time to stop it. I'm going to resist reading many more comments for a time, especially since I am now only three weeks behind on the comments section. :) I look forward to the next episode...

Enjoy the Day Everyone... RT
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Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 10:44pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Through the Looking Glass

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@Mike

While they never really say (that I can recall), I have thought perhaps if they were mining asteroids, then a space station would be a good place to break it down. But not if the mining was on a planet or a moon (unless the atmosphere was totally hostile).

Regards... RT
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Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 1:05am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: The Voyager Conspiracy

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I remember thinking how it would have taken Tash longer to build the catapult by himself, from scratch, than the ten years it would take him to fly home.

If there were no conspiracies, then I wonder who the race was that just happened to be there, cloaked, waiting for Voyager to blow up the array with their finger hovering over the button for their tractor beam? Since they'd had no contact with each other, how did they even realize Voyager was going to destroy it in the first place? And it had to be real, because the power source turned up in the catapult. Right?

I thought both of the conspiracies hinged on the tractor beam, and it made it mildly more plausible to them because of it. Without that tidbit, they just send Seven to Doctor for tests. I wouldn't have minded that they wrote it that way so much, if they hadn't ignored this big mystery at the end. Now, if it had been a Romulan ship they'd seen, and not Cardassian with no cloak, maybe. But that would destroy one of the conspiracies... sigh...

Does a tractor beam keep an item from being damaged/destroyed as it's removed from a massive explosion, during the time it would take to move it?

Acting saved this one a bit, but the holes were bigger than I could swallow.

Have a Great Day, Everyone... RT
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Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 5:10am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Blood of Patriots

Hello Gentle Sentients!

I will say this only once... Probably. Depends on the story. Could change my mind and copy-paste it later...

Deep Space Nine ended in 1999, and The Next Generation a few years before. Even Enterprise ended in 2005. There is nearly a whole generation of folks who didn't grow up with Trek. And that doesn't include those that just didn't want to watch "Star Trek".

Are some of them a re-hash or a re-telling? Yes, I'd agree (but that didn't stop me from liking them). I keep seeing comparisons to Kira or "The Wounded" or some other character from Trek, looking at them with the knowledge of 700+ episodes of Trek under their belt. Hey, get this, some of those folks have not seen all of those episodes. And of those 700+, when you read comments or reviews, a sentient finds out some of them were based off of Other Stories! Yes... it's true! I think after all that time, it might be difficult to write a story with a different bad guy, or good guy, or scenario, that won't remind a sentient of... something...

I am one of those that has seen all of those 700+ (minus DSC), but I attempt to just watch The Orville for what it is, and the story they are telling. Sometimes the jokes are bad (so... so bad), but other times they are light moments in a serious situation, just to break the tension. I'll admit I don't like them as well when they are incongruous, but I accept them for what they are, and sometimes still snicker.

In conclusion, there are people who might like this show, and would never give Star Trek the time of day (and have not memorized every episode of it). To them, it is a new story. And they hopefully enjoy it.

Regards Everyone... RT
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Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 3:29am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S4: Accession

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@Aaron

That is an interesting thought. They said it all along, they are "Of Bajor". So in some way, shape or fashion, they have a true connection to it. It would be an interesting show, or movie, that takes this further.

Thanks for that insight, lost among the seemingly endless bloviating that has been making my eyes bleed.

Regards... RT
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Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 12:47am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part I

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I just watched this one a second time, and I had a few more thoughts ( I did a page search on some key words, to see if anyone else had mentioned them, and might have missed something ):

Kaylon Prime said Isaac had been constructed for the "sole purpose of observing and evaluating your species, and other biologicals". So he was "young" when he started on the ship, but 700 years of life experience can change you too. When they asked him some tough questions, he paused a long time (for a AI), before answering.

The other Kaylon did seem to call Isaac "Prime", just before confronted with the news the crew knew about the bodies. But they were obscured by a pillar, then the camera moved to them. I could only conclude they were talking to Isaac, but the body language seemed to indicate they were still talking at one point, though nothing was heard. I thought it was probably a glitch with over-dubbing. Or, it isn't really completely Isaac, but Prime has been downloaded into him, quietly, secretly... Hmm...

Isaac tells Mercer something along the lines of "You must know by now we never intended to join the Union". That, along with "A decision has been made then?" when he re-booted tells me he knew all along what they intended.

How did Isaac get the shutdown command? It would've had to have been sent over some sort of messaging system, but it appeared (from what I have heard in the show) that he was sending actual messages using the ship's communications network. That was the inference I drew, not that he'd been "head-sending" anything. Perhaps a long-distance directive? They never actually said as much, but I figured he was writing (in their own way) and sending messages the way biologicals would. Like Data sending messages to that one fellow in "Data's Day".

The crew said they saw a bunch of "circles" that were potentially weapons, and they were building more at that very moment. Perhaps they didn't expect the Orville to actually show up after they shut him off, and were still in the process of building their fleet. That might explain how the binary decision had not been made yet. They were still in "maybe" mode as to their strength.

Lastly, perhaps they are not as advanced as they think they are. They seem to need to "talk" to one another, unless they are poking at their walls. We weren't shown any of them cocking their head, as Data might, while receiving input. Maybe the "wi-fi" part of them was removed after the Builders tried to use it to re-program them, and they never turned it back on, as someone or something could send them commands that way. That, however, is just supposition on my part. But even we have radio's and headphones... (Then again, how did all of them turn to look at the crew while at the wall? Maybe the "wall" told them...).

Thanks for the site Jammer... RT

P.S.: Are there Kaylon units in those ships, or are they sentient attack ships, ala BSG?

P.P.S.: Burn marks on the uniforms of the crew members. Those are not stun settings...
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Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:27am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Man Trap

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@Springy

I'd seen a post of yours at the beginning of a comment thread, and realized you were doing a TOS view after DS9. I haven't looked lately, but I hope you are continuing.

I'd started to watch Trek around '77, after Star Wars got me hooked, and it was on every day at 4pm. :). I even audio recorded them, and in later years could tell folks where they had removed lines for more commercials. I figure I started to watch them around the same time as you did.

I am looking forward to your reviews...

Regards... RT
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Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:18am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: Nor the Battle to the Strong

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@Sharon M

I think I understand what you are getting at, but in a different way/reversed.

Red Dawn came out when I was in High School, and I think I can speak for all of my friends when I say we thought we'd be able to start a resistance, forgetting about the deprivations of war and whatnot (and huge bombs that can wipe out an entire group). Even when this episode aired, I was probably still in the same category.

But after seeing this one back in the day, I realized I probably would have been scared shirtless, just like Jake.

In a way, it hit me over the head to remind me of the realities of war, and sometimes we aren't as brave in reality as we think we might be.

Regards... RT
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Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:48am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Identity, Part II

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I'm still going through the comments on this one after my last comment. Just following the stream...

In the episode where Isaac is protecting the children after the shuttle crash, he uses a hand-held weapon (I think he even has a holster). Did he not want them to know he could do head-shots? They were in quite a bit of danger, and using his head cannon and sidearm together would have been most helpful, I'd think. :)

Upon more reflection, I (and others) have mentioned it was weird to give an advanced robot-race access to a Union ship when they knew next-to-nothing about them. But, the Union did not put Isaac on the Flagship, instead he's on a somewhat star-mule, 2nd-tier ship. Perhaps they were indeed a bit leery. And if Isaac hadn't been on a Union ship (to shut down when they thought they had enough information), the Kaylon might have launched an even more surprise attack (albeit, at a time further in the future). Because the Orville could get a signal out to Earth, they had time to get a limited fleet back to attempt to protect it. Otherwise... no warning and Poof! The Union could not have known that it would work out that way, of course, but maybe they were indeed trying to be smart about Isaac...

My last thought is about finding out they do all the scripts before shooting. Perhaps the reason why a few episodes seem stilted, or a bit out of kilter, is they shoehorn something into a mostly finished episode and the pacing is just off because of it. I do like they film the scripts that way, but it could explain how some episodes just don't seem to flow like they should (as others have mentioned in previous episodes).

Enjoy the day Everyone... RT
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Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 11:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: The Arsenal of Freedom

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@Markus

That is an interesting take, where they changed their definition of counselor. I hadn't thought of it that way. If that is the case, they might have done it to give her more to do than just be on the bridge telling the Captain what her impressions were. Also, Yar was supposed to be the, for want of a better term, babe of the show, and after she left, they wanted to spruce up Troi a bit and, once again, get her more screen time.

Thanks for the thoughts... RT
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Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 3:23am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S6: Schisms

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@borusa

Would that be the short court scene where the great-something grandchild of a human was suing the great-something grandchild of (what was obviously) a gray for abducting his ancestor? Loved that :).

Oh, for everyone else, B5 reference. :)

Regards... RT
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Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 11:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions

Hello again, Everyone!

Please forgive my 2nd post so soon, but I was just reading a comment about how the holodeck in TNG had sitting folks end up standing when the program ended. I, once again, laughed out loud when he was in the simulator, ended the program, and fell to the floor with a *oomph*. It was not only perfect, but a fantastic showing (to me) of how it would actually happen. Along with a subtle jab at the other series that didn't do it that way. :)

*Note to self, always stand first in the simulator*

*when I get one*

Regards... RT
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Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 10:54pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Death Wish

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@Elliott

I'm still quite a bit behind on my comment stream, but had to say I really enjoyed your take on this episode. I don't often comment on your reviews, but I think this one was spot-on and really made me think about it again, and its ramifications.

Regards... RT
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Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 9:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions

Hello Everyone!

Well, I'm not going to read all of the responses yet, I'll probably just read them on the comment stream, which I'm only one month behind on now. :)

Yeah, I knew he'd fall in love in the simulator. It wasn't bad though.

My favorite moment? *Chomp* *Chomp* *Chomp*. I knew immediately it was gum, and laughed quite hard. And when she asked Bortus if it helped, his immediate "No" put me over the top. I had to pause it for just a moment.

A close second was when Klyden promptly ate his first cigarette.

Have a great day... RT
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Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 1:03am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: The Naked Now

Hello Everyone!

I've been doing a limited re-watch of this with my Wife, who has never seen them before (cutting out the stinkers, as she'd have no patience for 'em).

Watching back in the day, yes it was a cute episode, but without some sort of indication of what the crew members were about and how they acted, it was mildly difficult to realize how much they were out of (normal) character.

So I left this one until the end(ish) of season one, and it made it better, because we'd seen how the characters interact and how they are portrayed.

She isn't a fan quite yet, but was mildly amused. :D

*Mild, mild spoilers after this*

Other than Wesley not being an acting bridge officer yet (hey, grab the prodigy when you can), it makes it more enjoyable to view. In my humble opinion of course.

*Spoilers done*

Have a Great Day... RT
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