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Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 3:33am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S3: The Abandoned

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@Elliott

I also read her has Mardah, but I think the way they pronounced it during filming just made it sound "Marta", and that is how it was written later. I heard "Marta".
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For me, I just thought they'd never had sex. Goofy 16-year-old and 20-year-old. Yes, they were dating, and we know that because the show told us. That doesn't mean they were getting frisky when The Sisko was working. They never said they did, and I don't recall they implied it either.

I actually thought the age difference wasn't what made The Sisko the most uncomfortable (although I think he mentions it, it's been around a year since I watched it and am not in a hurry to go back (looked at a transcripts page)), it was that she was a Dabo Girl. I took that as his biggest gripe.

*after looking at a transcript* HIs first mention of the age:

SISKO: Quark may call her a dabo girl but she's twenty years old. She's a woman and Jake's a sixteen year old boy. It has to stop.

But then:

SISKO: She's a dabo girl and she's dating my son. I don't want to like her.

From back to the original watch until now, I thought the emphasis was on her simply being a Dabo Girl.

I still don't get the impression they were having "relations".

As always, these comments on a fictional show may or may not reveal any actual thoughts I had. Your mileage may vary...

Regards... RT

P.S.: O'BRIEN: Sixteen years old and dating a dabo girl. Godspeed, Jake.

P.P.S.: I think sometimes we really, really look at these episodes too closely. I won't touch HoQ with anyones ten-foot-pole, let alone mine...

P.P.P.S.: Many thanks to http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/index.html for the transcript page
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Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 3:15am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: The Game

Hello Gentle Sentients

@JerJer, perhaps Riker was being shown as more of a randy male because he'd been exposed to the game, which seemed to trigger sexual responses when you "won" the round...

...Nurse Alyssa Ogawa always looked to me like she was having a mini-orgasm when she was in the turbolift...

Now, as far as bringing a STD home, wouldn't the transporter filter that out? And, since we've seen a transporter go back to a earlier version of folks, would that not be the secret of eternal youth? Put a hair into the machine from when you were 24, and have the transporter "fix" you back to then?...

I digress...

Riker was more than his normal "who-hoo" self because of the game. As far as what Troi was describing... even 27 years ago I knew she'd stopped talking about ice cream...

Regards... RT
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Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 2:49am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Galaxy's Child

Hello Everyone!

Maybe, just maybe, Thomas never figured this particular episode would get over-over-Over-analyzed. He just wrote it and thought it worked at the time.

Nothing implied or intended. Just a story.

And fade to black...

RT
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Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 2:57am (UTC -6)
Re: Frequently Asked Questions

Hello Everyone!

Back in the days of Babylon 5 and Deep Space Nine, cable companies were simpler. We had around three packages (at least with mine), and things would come and go as they were added and subtracted. I saw Babylon 5 on the cover of TV Guide, but it was on SciFy, and my package didn't have that. It looked interesting, and they gave it a good writeup, but I had no shot at watching. Then without warning two years later, my package changed for the better and there was SciFy. I'd remembered others talking with me about B5 and how good they thought it was, so I gave it a shot with "The Long, Twilight Struggle"...

It was fun, trying to figure out the series at the end of season two/start of season three, and I was Hooked! (For some reason, they held the last episodes of a season until the beginning of the next one...)

The stories just seemed... deeper. The bad guys were... subtle. The good guys had... shades of gray...

Perhaps if I'd seen B5 from the beginning as many did, I'd think of it differently. But here I was with fleshed out characters, none of whom were exactly as they appeared. And at nearly the same time came the Dominion War. The two just didn't compare. Don't get me wrong, I was a Trek Lifer/Truther (and loved Star Wars, which got me into Trek in '77), and DS9 was great! But eventually DS9, Voy and Bab5 were all showing at the same time, and if there were new episodes of each in turn on that Saturday, I'd save B5 for last. Oh, I'd watch the ST's, and enjoy them. But B5, I'd let it play, and not even fast forward during the commercials (sometimes taking a little break), just to make them last longer.

I've been going through Trek on a slow re-watch, and have been delightfully surprised by some from that time, knowing I rushed through them in the past. But now, B5 has just started showing on the station Comet, free Teevee, and I've been recording it daily... I almost get the same rush I got back then when I see another episode. The nuances... the stories... sigh...

And I've been looking at some of the characters I didn't think were that well-cast back then, seeing them in a different light. I didn't think much of Claudia at the time, but she has some moments that just makes the character shine. I used to think just about any actress could have played her, though now I'm not so certain. And as an aside, it is almost difficult watching the opening credits, seeing all of the actors who have died since it was made. There is no going back, sadly.

Lastly, while all of the B5 humanoid ships had secondary weapons that were pointing in many directions, they all *spoilers*---





---apart from the Vorlons and Shadows, had to actually Point their ships at the enemy to use their Main Guns. No matter the race, you had to Face Them, because they took so much energy they ran the length of that part of the ship (sort of like that BIG PHASER the Enterprise had in their last episode). It was very cool to see two ships maneuver to get an enemy in that crossfire. No 300,000 km battles here that were shown next to each other. Nope. If they fired those babies off, there was a purpose and it was up close.

*spoilers done*---

And to try to figure out the bad guys, because no one had, except they had actually figured them out but no one would listen, and good guys become bad guys, and bad guys become good guys, and one is such a shade of gray he should have been the poster child for Gray...

Yes, the first season was nothing to write home about, but it set the stage. JMS even had a removed actor come back to work later to flesh things out, and how often does that happen? Yes the last season was a bit of an add-on, as they thought they were going to be canceled after season four, but it fit right in with his "bible", so to speak.

Perhaps I just should have said: Babylon 5 season One, get through it, you'll be happy eventually. Seasons Two, Three and Four, you will be very happy. And season Five, you will be happy, just not as much as after season Four. But, it's good.

Thank you for your time and for reading my Random Thoughts (I came up with it before the Voy episode of the same name, by the way).

Heck I could go on with that, just as long as there isn't a weird power outa.....

*blue screen*
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Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 11:23pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Wounded

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@MMM

---Think it made him more understandable, not correct. The whole Secret Cardassian Buildup thing is a lot like the Cuban Missile Crisis. Imagine if some US submarine captain had unilaterally launched torpedoes at a Soviet supply ship and sunk it. Would he have been right to do so? That's Maxwell.---

Wow, that is so close to the truth of what nearly happened. A Soviet submarine almost did that during the Cuban Missle Crisis, with a nuke-tipped torpedo:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208342/Soviet-submariner-single-handedly-averted-WWIII-height-Cuban-Missile-Crisis.html

If not for Vasili Arkhipov, the world we know now might be very different, or not exist at all...

Regards... RT

P.S.: Good men of good conscience exist in all countries, and hopefully in all worlds...

I now return you to your regularly scheduled Jammers Reviews...
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Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 10:24pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S5: Unification

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@Bruce

Yes, yes I did. The first time, and every time.

Regards... RT
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Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 9:04pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S3: Destiny

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@CaptainBaggins

Wow. One message you respond that you are calling out fascists "Past Tense, Part II", and later the same day you pull out the "c" word in this thread? In polite company?

Wow. Just wow.

RT
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Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:54pm (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S2: Return to Tomorrow

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@Tony

That... is a good question. Make androids, put minds in them, walk around and maybe get off the planet someday. Instead of just hanging around in the globes.

I had never thought of that...

Regards... RT
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Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:49pm (UTC -6)
Re: ORV S1: Krill

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@MarkG

I think some might be giving it a small pass, just because it's new. I'm much more into a "let it slide" mode than I would normally be, since they are just finding their feet. If this was a Star Trek Comedy (I just read about a official ST comedy(ish) cartoon... we'll see), then I might pick it apart because canon had been violated or something.

But this... there have been moments that made me cringe, but I just decided to watch and see where it was headed...

Mostly, I enjoyed it, and that is what counts. Now, 20 years from now, when we have the Orville-D, I might not be so forgiving... :D

Regards... RT
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Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 12:21am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S7: Eye of the Beholder

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@Tim Lounibos

Welcome aboard! It is neat you found the site and thank you for your comment. I would enjoy hearing more about your experience, what surprised you the most, what was fun and what wasn't, etc.

I am glad you got to have an experience most of us only dream of.

Enjoy the day... RT

P.S.: Would anyone know if there are there any other actors or writers who have graced these pages? I recall a writer for "Yesterday's Enterprise", and that's about it, but I have not read all of the reviews, as I am doing them slowly, as I do my (seemingly) endless re-watch.
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Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 5:38am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Future Imperfect

Hello Gentle Sentients!

Well, not saying I agree one way or the other, but I noticed. Perhaps it is the HD, which made quite a few things more obvious over the series.

Now, I wouldn't have mentioned it myself, but I do recall thinking "what were they thinking with that outfit?".

Regards... RT
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Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 1:17am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S6: Chain of Command, Part I

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@Peter G.

Well said. I believe you took many of the thoughts I'd had in the past and put them together in a more coherent line of thought than I might have been able to.

If I might add a bit, I'd thought at the time (and since then) that the situation on the Enterprise was unique. It was the Flagship after all. And Riker had been Captain for a while during the Borg incursion. In another timeline, perhaps Picard could have been made Fleet Captain, or Commodore, with Riker being Captain.

And given all the experience Riker has, that you mentioned, I think Jellico was short-sighted to just ignore what Riker said. He seemed to go into the situation with a chip on his shoulder regarding Riker, and I think that is what turned myself off to him. And Riker got his dander up when Jellico seemed to just ignore his input and his concerns. Heh, they were written to never, ever, get along, and that worked. :)

Regards... RT
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Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 12:09am (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S4: Unforgettable

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@Gary wrote:

Which brings up the cinematic-necessity-but-aggravating-stupidity of their space battles always being shown at insanely close range, though sometimes we're told they are thousands of kilometres apart. But they move around each other, and collide, as if they really are a few ships'-lengths apart. Again, watching dots zap invisible light beams at other distant dots wouldn't work, but ... please let me accept this is just a visual convention, and don't get confused and have ships bumping into each other every time an engine is taken out!
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I think on this nearly every time I see a space battle in ST. As far as I can recall, the only time they said they were farther away, and the ships didn't seem to be at point-blank range, was in "Balance of Terror". Of course the Romulan ship was mostly cloaked, but I really felt it was truly a ranged fight. Especially when the Enterprise just starts lobbing photon torpedoes in the general area they thought the enemy might be in (and I know they said phasers, but it was torpedoes shown, just a minor oops before they got things straightened out).

Regards... RT
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Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 3:31am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S5: Let He Who Is Without Sin...

Hello Everyone!

I'm making my way through the RSS (so, so far behind) and saw quite a few deep, in-depth comments about it and why Worf might act the way he did.

I looked back at my comment from April 2017 (good review I think, check it out) and this line stood out:

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I didn't like how Worf was written as devious, making it rain just to get back at Dax, with the excuse that it was for the good of the people. Hogwash.
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Remembering back to when I first saw it, and again when I re-watched it, I thought Worf's motivation was less to teach a lesson to soft Feds, and more to teach a lesson to Dax to start being more serious about things (life, love, her past, her future). Those... umm... *scrolls up because they are fogotten*... "essentialists", are just a means to an end, until they go too far. He simply wanted to show her up, and it was one of the least loving things I could think of someone doing to someone they care about. Worf just wanted to make it Glemmening on Jadzia's parade. He succeeded. The rest of the episode is simply filler to help that to happen.

Have a Great Day Everyone... RT
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Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 2:40am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: Remember Me

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When this first aired, I was shocked and astonished and pleased to see The Traveller. I think it partly had to do with the acknowledgement of Anything from the first season, and the thought that Wesley might Indeed be something special (apart from being a brainiac) and reminding us of that from season one, was kind of neat.

When I discussed it with my friends back then, we didn't think it was a cheat at all. Today, I have to stand by those thoughts. I think The Traveller was a pleasant surprise, and a nice touch of continuity.

Heh, I just went back and scanned Jammer's review. I almost worded it the same. :)

Oh, and we didn't Hate Wesley, but did sometimes have a mild annoyance with him. :)

After reading so many who didn't like The Traveller, I figured a mention from someone who thought he was a positive in the episode was in order...

Of course, these are just more random thoughts... and your mileage may vary.

Regards... RT

P.S.: I wonder now, if the episode wasn't written backwards? How do we get TT with Wesley again, and they wrote it back to front from there.... but that just popped into my head as I was about to hit submit.
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Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 2:14am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S3: Hollow Pursuits

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@Prince of Space

Thanks for the comment. I was just watching "The Hunted" with my Wife the other night, and decided not to say "They are walking to the emergency", as Worf and a crewman were in no particular hurry to get to the escapee. It would have broken her immersion, and I'm having a hard time getting her to like the show anyway. :)

Regards... RT
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Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 2:00am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Host

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@Rahul

I enjoyed your take on it, but thought you glossed over (just a bit) about Odan not telling Beverly about being joined:

CRUSHER: Well maybe you should have thought about that sooner. Maybe you should have told me what you were. It didn't seem to bother you to remain silent yesterday.
RIKER (Odan): It never occurred to me. This is what I am. Did you ever tell me that you are only a single being? Of course not. That was normal to you.

If a pile of species they'd come across were joined/dual in some way, perhaps. But Odan knew there were few if any other races that did this. He knew ahead of time that his situation was rare, being joined, and not thinking to mention it to someone who might just have fallen in love with you is... strikingly bizarre to me.

We all know what the Future is in DS9, but that hadn't happened yet. In this episode, at this time, that was a lame excuse. I'd have liked it better if he'd said something along the lines of "I would have told you eventually, when our relationship was stronger", or words to that effect.

Thank you for your comments, I've enjoyed reading them...

Regards... RT
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Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 1:23am (UTC -6)
Re: Star Trek: Nemesis

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@Cody B

You know, I do enjoy Voyager, but lament that it could have been so much more. That being said, I am doing a ST re-watch and would never leave Voyager out of the mix. They had many fantastic stand-alone episodes, but sometimes I sort of wished they'd not hit the re-set button quite so much. It'd have been nice to see them still making repairs the next episode after getting pasted a bit, but the ship is usually fine the next show. I would not skip it, personally.

As for Enterprise, I watched it during it's original run, and thought it was very underrated. I liked the long season arc they eventually had, but also enjoyed many of the episodes that were earlier. I've not done a re-watch of it yet, but once I'm done with DS9 (one episode left) and STV (two seasons), I am looking forward to watching it again. Heck, I might even mix it up with Voyager, since they are in different times, just to keep things from getting stale.

Myself, I'd say watch 'em both. You never know what might tickle your fancy, and you might be pleasantly surprised.

Forgive my late comment, I'm waaay behind on my rss reading. :)

Regards... RT
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 3:27am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S3: The Vengeance Factor

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@Prince of Space

Thank you for the nice comment, it was much appreciated. :)

Regards... RT
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Sun, Oct 7, 2018, 12:55am (UTC -6)
Re: Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

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@Peter

My only thought is that, if they went to the academy in San Francisco, they might have a passing knowledge of Alameda, just from being in the area for however many years they were in California. Of course, it might not exist after their Third World War.

Oh, and I've loved your comments I have read over time, thank you for being here. :) I almost said "unless you are not Peter G, but I did a search, and it's you. :)

Regards... RT
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 1:28am (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S5: Course: Oblivion

Hello Everyone!

I have not really read the Jammer review, I just sort of skimmed it.

I have not read any of the comments.

This episode was so painful to me when I first saw it, I (for the first time in my all Trek re-watch), skipped it.

I do recall they talked about what they'd done before, being honest to the original crew, after they found out. And something about making "something" the real crew could find, which turned to mush or something. Then their life forms vanished for good, which the "real" Voyager found later... their "lives" and exploits gone forever...

It was the most painful episode of Trek I ever watched, and not in a "good" heartfelt way. It was an abomination and should be burned with fire.

And I am not kidding. Burn this one.

RT
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 12:25am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S1: Encounter at Farpoint

Hello @Viktor

I'm way behind on my RSS feed, but I hope you are enjoying your foray into TNG, and the rest of Trek. I've seen them all (the 60's ones in the 70's) and it keeps me coming back to watch them again.

Enjoy the ride, and I almost envy you, seeing some of them for the first time...

RT
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Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 2:38am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Dogs of War

Hello Everyone!

Heh, it took me three tries over two days to read over all the comments. I will admit my eyes started to glaze over (and my mouse wheel spun a bit faster) with all the comments about politics.

Okay, on to things I didn't see really covered or answered...

I think Rom probably got all of that latinum by talking to Moogie about what to invest in. I'd figure he probably talks to Mom on a regular basis.

I really had a problem with Quark being so out of touch with current events on Ferenginar. Doesn't he get the weekly newsletter? Doesn't he still have wait staff that are Fenengi? Wouldn't they know? And, as I already mentioned, I'd think Rom is in regular contact with Moogie. Perhaps Rom didn't tell him because he didn't want to upset him... but that is pretty thin. Quark would have to have been completely and utterly out of touch to not know what was going on there, and I don't think that is like him, based on previous episodes and scheming and contacts and whatnot...
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Now I figure the Romulan who eventually votes "yes" to attack is probably given special powers to speak for the Praetor, but I think we should have seen him at some time. The Leader of the Federation? Naaah, we've seen him and he's best left to Earth. But the Romulan Leader would have been a nice touch, I think, in the same room with Chancellor Martok. Either hilarity or respect would ensue.

And I've thought for a while now that Sisko should have been promoted to Rear Admiral, or at least Commodore (we've not seen too many of those in ST). I think it would have been a natural progression. Too bad the Captain of the Flagship (and the ship itself) never shows up or is even mentioned, even once. I did wonder during the original run why no one ever talked about them. Even something as a line drop: the Enterprise led the successful re-taking of Betazed, or something... but I digress...
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For some reason, I really liked the scenes where Damar is just lying on his back, in a basement, staring at the ceiling, believing he has completely failed. His turnaround seemed quite natural, once he was given different ideas to work with.

I really find it neat that what started out as a somewhat minor character, and flunky to Dukat, eventually turned out to be so much more. And it seemed like such a natural progression, at least to me. Many of the characters changed over the years, but at the end, I somewhat like his the most. As an aside, Dukat's seemed to be whatever the writers wanted him to be that year: bad guy, gray guy, bad guy, then finally incomprehensible mess.
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Lastly, Sisko making certain Odo wasn't going to take matters into his own hands with the Founders, just sounded wrong to me. I don't know why, but it grated on my sensibilities. Perhaps it just sounded forced, to make a point. We all know Odo is going to do whatever the heck he wants to, and if it's saying what Sisko wants to hear, so be it. Perhaps it would have been best left unasked, but they wanted to make a dramatic point. I cannot explain my thought clearly, I fear, but I did cringe a bit when he asked it.

I think that is all for now. I hope Everyone is having a great day... RT
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Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:33am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: When it Rains...

Hello Everyone!

There are many great comments here, both for and against.

I will add my two cents towards those that mentioned the Cardassian Rebels needed to be trained how to be subversive. They really didn't learn anything from the Bajoran rebels they were fighting against. They still felt superior strength would be needed and they'd win. They learned nothing from their fights. As for them not liking Kira, it wouldn't have mattered who it was, as long as it was a Bajoran showing them how to be insurgents. Kira simply had the weight of the Federation behind her, and anyone else would not, short of Shakarr. (sp)

I love Gowron and his eyes (I'd read once that he opened his eyes like that on purpose during an audition, to make himself stand out. Might be true, since I read it on the internet...). And in a way, though it was forced, I can see him doing just what he was doing. He'd been written as petty and insecure over the years, so this was no surprise to me (other than "Look who's here!"). It'd been better if it had been a few episodes earlier, in my humble opinion.

Oh, and as for Garak, he would gladly help Damar defeat the Dominion, but he would never forget and would get any revenge he wanted, though it may take years of smiling at him... Of that, I have no doubt.

Keep smiling... RT
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Sat, Sep 22, 2018, 2:41am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S7: The Changing Face of Evil

Hello Everyone!

My original point with this post was to tell Jammer what a great review this is. I had emotions come up, nodded in agreement or disagreement, and when I was down to the end, I thought it was nearly poetry. Whether you agree or not, it is very, very well written and there was a great deal of thought put into it. Thanks Jammer, again.

And since I'm here, I thought I'd add some random thoughts, in no particular order...

It was mentioned by @William B that the attack on the cloning facilities might just be revenge, with (perhaps) no real war reasoning. I disagree. The Vorta speak for the Founders, and when the cloning facilities are destroyed, there are eventually fewer and fewer Vorta's around to speak for them. If Weyoun (8? 9?) is killed, who is the intermediary between the Founder and those who are running the war? A Jem-Hadar? I think destroying those areas are a logical first step to defeating them, right up there with destroying the K-White facilities. The Vorta are the Dominion's weak link, in my humble opinion.

@The Dreamer. I figured blood for the book was something along the lines of disappearing ink. Perhaps even along the lines of the blood of an innocent (which may or may not have been the case). A chemical reaction. That book was made long, long ago, and who knows what was infused into its pages? Anything advanced enough is considered "magic" to those who are not as advanced, and if it was helped along by the Pah Wraiths at some point...

It does seem weird they'd keep the book around though: (Here are the ways to destroy our gods). Seems like something the Norse gods would do though, since they knew they would be defeated at the end.

Lastly, I think, is that Damar just needed someone to show some faith in him. He'd probably been on board with the Dominion when Dukat brought them in, and would have kept to that course if Weyoun and Company had just treated him as an equal, instead of a subordinate (and the lives of the Cardassians a priority as well). Dukat, in that one shining moment, knew what Damar needed and gave it to him. Would Damar have stayed the course if things were going better? Sure! No reason to get off of the winning horse. But the storyline really allowed us to empathize with him, and eventually root for him. Babylon 5 was masterful at making the characters (eventually) change over time, so that your loyalties and hopes for them changed. While Damar's change was, by comparison, much quicker, it felt natural to me considering what was going on.

Lastly, part #2: When this first aired, we didn't sit and endlessly debate the Philosophies and motivations of all the characters, we just accepted them. In a way, I sort of miss those days...

As always, regards, and be gratetful we have such a great show to discuss...

RT
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