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Ramon Ymalay
Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 2:00pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

@peter
If you truly believe that I believe we are actually "close" to holodeck level tech, I don't even know what to say. LOL. I am definitely laughing.

My point is that given the insane jumps in technology it would take to create that turbolift chasm or the holodeck, we are lightyears closer to a holodeck than making subspace bubbles inside a starship that encapsulate turbolifts.

We have already "transported" one photon.

https://mitechnews.com/guest-columns/one-step-closer-to-creating-star-trek-style-transporter-warp-drive/

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/23/quantum-feat-takes-us-one-step-closer-to-star-trek-transporters_n_8181418.html

Couple billion years (if humans can avoid self destruction) maybe we can transport someone... then move on to the turbolift dilemma.
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Ramon
Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 3:28am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

@slackerinc I think saying complete lack was too strong of wording. Any show when it ends always will have some minor quibbles from fans about the ending.

However, I think we can both agree it stuck the ending a million fold better than Lost, BSG, dexter (worst ever for me, hope the revival can fix that) or GoT. I want to watch breaking bad again to get to that last season. I avoid BSG, Lost and GoT specifically because of the endings.

While not Sci Fi, I felt Friday Night Lights and The office along with TNG are some of my favorite endings. The office probably being my all time favorite. Perfect resolution on all fronts practically. DS9 when it first aired, I was underwhelmed with “What you leave behind”, but having watched through the series multiple times since the era of DVDs and now Netflix, being able to binge it, the ending seems to flow much better and I love the ending now.
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Ramon
Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 10:42am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

@Peter- any of the tech manuals provide a better explanation than any “sub space” turbolift.

The fact that there are manuals that can at least provide a half hazard explanation proves my point. Furthermore, the tech has some basic explanations given in actual episodes throughout the use of the holodeck.

The turbo lifts would have been remotely acceptable if they had explained during the refit that discovery or they briefly addressed the insanity of the turbolift shafts. They could have said that discovery now transcends normal limits of space due to retrofitting some sub space bubbles on the ship or some other technobabble. The fact that the turbo lifts were an issue back in the 23rd century (just not as insanely cavernous) does not bode well for that explanation.

Heck we are getting closer and closer to holodeck technology already. Not sure how much VR you do, but the Virtuix Omni is a VERY rudimentary idea of the treadmill in place concept and they are even producing a second version. Combine that with replicated matter and transporter tech and it’s really not hard to
Imagine a holodeck.

The fact that we are having to come up with endless explanations for the lazy writing just further reinforces just how bad the writing for Disco truly is. A truly great show shouldn’t have fans trying to justify every thing for the sake of the writers.

Game of Thrones was amazing....up until the end... as the ending did not feel earned. Not wanting to give spoilers for anyone that hadn’t seen it, but that was controversial because despite some characters showing some tendencies, they did not allow the actions to happen organically at the end. It was rushed. Breaking bad however allowed everything to happen organically and it felt “right.” Hence the complete lack of controversy regarding the ending of breaking bad.

The same thing that happened to GoT is the same thing people are doing for Discovery. Fans trying to endlessly justify the lazy writing, when if fact it is what it is. Lazy writing with unearned moments. I do not believe GoT had the plot of the ending wrong, it was just the execution of it and the rushing of the character arc that was the issue.
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Ramon
Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 8:40am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

The holodecks are explained in detail in the tech manuals.

If the turbo lift issue was only a season 3 phenomenon I could live with the “it’s crazy 32nd century tech and they can somehow create insane cavernous spaces inside a ship via warp bubbles.” The issue is that the turbo lift shafts were an issue in an episode in the prior season as well back when they were in the 23rd century.
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Ramon Ymalay
Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 2:56pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

Lower Decks is the best of all the new star trek series by far. It actually has heart. It has a cohesive story. It has relatable characters. It pays homage to canon. It has awesome and appropriate use of throwback characters and references. Most importantly, IT HAS REALISTIC TURBOLIFT SHAFTS!!!

It's a true travesty that this website is devoting it's time to Discovery, when Lower Decks is the best of all the nuTrek by a mile.

I enjoy LD more than ENT, DISCO, or Picard. It is shockingly good. I am not sure how much I'd enjoy it without having watched TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT, but it truly is a show made for the fans.
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Ramon
Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 9:08am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

My autocorrect spaced out turbolift. And I meant to put two words. I am well aware turbo lift shafts is three words. My emotions and rage got the better of me.
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Ramon
Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 9:07am (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

I rarely ever post on here, but Disco has gotten so absurd I don’t even know where to start.

Throughout the season I have never seen more unearned moments than what I have seen on this show.

The crew could have cared less about gorgiou yet when she dies she gets a better send off and tribute than DATA!!!’ (At least before Picard). That is ridiculous.

Tilly as ensign???? Don’t even get me started! How about some basic chain of command.

The crew is crying constantly. I have never seen a more unprofessional crew in my life.

One word. Turbo lift shafts. Enough said about that.

The burn being caused by some emotional child’s outburst.... omg.

This show is a disaster. I wish they would just call it non canon and cancel it and start over. It’s the laziest writing I have ever seen.
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Ramon
Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 1:28pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S4: The Visitor

When I watched this episode when it first age at the age of 15, I though it was a good episode, but not great. I have watched this episode periodically over the last 24 years but not since I became a father i 2020. As a father 25 years later I have just watched this episode. WOW! I never quite got why it was such an amazing episode before, but now as a father I totally have a new point of view. I cried no less than 3 times through the episode. The acting was spectacular. Cirroc lofton I pulled a performance for the ages out of thin air. The pain in his eyes each time Sisko shifted away was palpable. The fact that we are talking about this episode 25 years later is a testament to the greatness of this episode. The writing, pacing, music and acting just clicked. I totally understand where some people believe this was overrated or they just didn’t get it. I didn’t “get it” for 25 years. I just “got
It” today. Bravo! A true classic and literally the best episode of Star Trek among all 7 series. And a classic TV episode in all aspects.
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Ramona
Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 1:12pm (UTC -5) | 🔗
Re: DS9 S7: Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang

I find it very troubling that people seem to really believe that Roddenberry's view was antiracist. I'm sorry but the PoC in TOS were not doing that much and let\s talk about that Black Planet in TNG shall we? Or why are most people of every race White?
I love Star Trek, but it is clearly written by people of our times. There is racism, antisemitism (c'mon Ferengi=space jews), queerphobia, sexism etc. It's all there in plain sight.
As someone who is Black and Queer I wouldn't have played this episode without some acknowledgement that it's not true to the actual time period. I still wonder why the hell Whoopi Goldberg thought it was ok to hang out somewhere end 19th/begin 20th century and pretend like she could just be some noble woman in the US. Please, no that was NEVER going to happen.
It can't be that people only respond to the fact when race is explicitely being mentioned, but then when the whole universe has a lot of White Supremacist triats people turn away? Eh no
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