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JerJer
Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 10:35am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: First Contact

As soon as Nerdy Nurse walked in the room, I could see where that scene was going.

All she needed was to have double D's, and a shirt unbuttoned halfway down.

Bow chicka bow bow
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 9:31am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Encounter at Farpoint

@ NCC-1701-Z

I like it! Sounds like a better Voyager!

You know, I had actually thought of setting half a season or a whole season there myself. Another thing I had thought about but didn't put in my post:

I think once the Federation/Klingon/Romulan dynamic had been set up, I'd eventually want a more alien threat, and I actually thought of the Kelvans from Andromeda as a possibility -- along with introducing race that built the Doomsday machine.

Thanks for your reply!
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Encounter at Farpoint

So here's a question for those of you still wandering back in here.

The premise: It's 1986 and you have a year to pull together YOUR VERSION of "Next Generation."

Our canon material is the original series and four movies up to "Voyage Home." You have same budget and limitations they had then.

In broad strokes or in detail, what would have done (with the premiere or the first season in general)? My answer:

My show would have been quite different (and maybe not better). In flavor, it would have been a little more like DS9 and the better parts of Enterprise.

I'm pretty sure I never would have conceived of the Betazeds or Data or Q or the Ferengi, for instance.

I definitely would have wanted a diverse crew, and maybe even more than Next Gen, I would have attempted to populate the crew with aliens.

I would have built more from the original series in terms of plot, less in tone and flavor. As much as they would have let me, I would have done story arcs, having been influenced by successful shows such as "Hill Street Blues" and "L.A. Law."

My vision of the show would have had a definite focus on the Federation/Klingon/Romulan struggles. I wouldn't want every episode on that, but those would have been the most dominant types.

In my vision, the Klingons wouldn't have been allies. If anything, back in 1986, I think the Federation had a much better chance of building bridges with the Romulans over the Klingons. TOS portrayed them as rather noble adversaries with a lot of mutual mistrust and misunderstanding. I would have kept that dynamic. I was quite surprised back then to learn peace had been made with Klingons, who were much more warlike.

I definitely would have had a major focus on the intense threeway rivalry. I also would have had a few recurring Klingons and Romulans as adversaries a la Khan (or Gul Dukat in the future). In my Next Gen universe, the Romulans still who have thought themselves vastly superior to Klingons. But the Klingons would have been just as eager to fight the Federation, too.

A few other tidbits:

-- I was fascinated with Lt. Ilea from STTMP. I would have had a Deltan as part of the core bridge crew. Probably a guy to shake things up. But I definitely would have wanted to explore the Federation members more, and this was a good place to start.

-- I would have had Vulcans around and Vulcan storylines, particularly when it came to the Romulans. But I would have avoided a Vulcan in the No. 1 or No. 2 spot.

-- Unless the FX and makeup people said it would have been too much work, I would have incorporated Andorians and Tellerites more into the picture. Probably not as major players, but explore them more as a way to flesh out the Federation. (Perhaps some Romulan overtures to the Andorians to stoke internal Federation tensions).

-- I would have also wanted to not lean entirely on building up from existing species and I would have wanted to introduce a few new species (though not sure on composition or characteristics.

-- I probably would have revisited a few OS storylines and players throughout the series. Some as one-offs, some incorporated into the story arcs:

The Guardian of Forever / The Orion Syndicate (better serving the role the Ferengi played) / The mind manipulators on Talos IV / The Doomsday Machine / A visit back to one of the planets the Federation screwed over with Prime D. Maybe the Nazi planet.

I definitely would have had fewer Q-like beings. But I do like shows with unexpected life forms if not done too often (like the crystals that called us "ugly bags of mostly water.")

Speaking of water, I definitely would have set a story arc either on another planet or Earth where the crew briefly serves in a submarine (if budget had allowed). And that could have been a big hit or a major flop.








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JerJer
Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 11:28am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Wounded

Having recently finished watching all of DS9, and now going backwards to watch TNG, this episode is painful.

The Cardie headgear in the first scenes...what are those, Aussie rules football helmets? Awful.

The Cardie uniforms. Truly dreadful. Like puffy ski jackets.

Dukat-who-is-not-Dukat: that beard/mutton chop/disco porn star facial hair. Ugh!

The Cardassians were so much improved for DS9. The plot might be good, but the visuals stink.
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JerJer
Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:13am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Data's Day

That pig woman in the barber show, ugh!

And is this the only time in Trek there has been a barber/salon scene? I've been through VOY, DS9, ENT and now TNG, and don't remember anyone getting a haircut.

Riker being Riker, chatting up a "pretty" woman, trying to flatter and seduce the redhead on the bridge with his war story...
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 7:09am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Half a Life

I'm with Derek D.

I've always liked this episode, and it now carries more significance to me at 56.

My mother is 90, a widow of a little over a year and still trying to recover from surgery in January. My father's death last year and now her illness have already created a difficult physical, emotional and yes financial strain. And we're looking at slow decline for her that I fear may break me as well.

And like Timicin, she's now at the mercy of her children's patience. Of which my sister has almost none. So it's up to me.

I found both sides to present very compelling arguments, which is always good "Trek" to me.

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JerJer
Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 1:27pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Loss

So much stupidity in one place in this episdoe.

2-dimensional beings? Huh?
"Cosmic string". What a load of garbage.
Troi simply being part of the plot is a strike.
Troi being a total whiny bitch. Ugh.
So much technobabble blah blah blah it was a total turnoff.
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JerJer
Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 12:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Future Imperfect

It was obvious from the beginning of him waking up that it wasn't real. But the expectation is that the Romulans are up to it. I was sitting waiting for the expected reveal that it's a holodeck. The fact it's an alien boy doing it all was a twist though.

Can anyone remember the place they live/work in such tiny minute detail? Maybe the subconscious mind does, and a "neural probe" could pull out those details.

That Spandex on his son, seems very 'revealing'....as Homer Simpson says about Bart being born, "It's a boy! And what a boy!!" (Doctor's reply: Mr. Simpson, that's the umbilical cord.")
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 10:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

I liked it then.

I love it now.

It's absolutely chilling to watch this in 2018. It resonates with me so much more than it did in 1991. And I don't see any Jean Luc Picards on the horizon to save us from our current band of Admiral Saties who have hijacked our country and have an angry, self-righteous mob to support them.

I'm going to have to make room in my Top 5 for this one.
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JerJer
Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 1:13pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Reunion

Totally boring. I paid very little attention while it played in the background and I scrolled through Instagram.
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JerJer
Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 10:45am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Remember Me

One of about a half-dozen I can still remember seeing 25 years ago.

Beverley v. The Computer in the final act is great fun.

The whole Wesley thing is lame. He's such a super-genius that he can play around with something a pre-eminent physicist has devoted his life work to...but Wesley is what, 17? And he still can't get into Starfleet. Yet Tasha runs away from her home planet somehow, and has no trouble entering.

How convenient that *ping* the Traveller just happens to show up. Typical "wrap it all up magically in the last 2 minutes" Trek.
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JerJer
Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 9:01am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Legacy

Another boring bunch of drivel.
Watched it for the first half or so, then left it playing in the background and listened while I did other things.
The opening with the poker game was uninspired. Seems TNG is obsessed with that the way the ham actor playing Sisko on DS9 was obsessed with baseball. The whole "everyone in the 24th century loves stuff from the 20th" is so tiresome.
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 5:37pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Qpid

This episode proves how much harder it is to pull off "Trek" drama than "Trek" comedy.

I often think of ways to salvage bad episodes. And I often come up with what I think is way that could have made something a lot better.

Not this one. It was bad from conception. And I'll never understand why they chose to bring back Vash. I can see giving her a go, in theory, the first time around. But she fell flat. Why bring her back?
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JerJer
Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 1:03pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Suddenly Human

What is it with people thinking Jono is a boytoy for Endar to bang?

Now Jono and Wesley together, that would be epic twink porn.
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JerJer
Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 3:32am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Transfigurations

This episode was like melba toast. It's there, it's not bad, but it has zero exciting about it. It's not even fluff filler. It's just there, not hurting anyone but not doing anything exciting.
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JerJer
Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 7:17am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: Menage a Troi

"Ferengi episode" = annoying and bad
Anything with Lwaxana = automatically annoying and bad
Put the two together, UGH! I made sure to have something to do while I let this drivel play in the background.

At least Geordi will have his boy toy for another year. Seriously, Wes. Get your act together and get on with your education, FFS.
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 8:58pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Identity Crisis

Gosh, I don't have whole lot to say about this one. A few random things I liked:

-- The atmosphere they created on the planet.

-- The friendship with Geordi and Susannah.

-- The metamorphosis into the other creatures was pretty interesting.

In the end, it's very middle-ish Trek.
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 12:24pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Night Terrors

As others said, very good on atmosphere. Otherwise, it does not stand up to scrutiny.

Two timing issues really bothered me watching this, and I'm surprised no one brought them up.

No. 1: They are on the other ship. Engines are fine. They try to move it. It won't go. So what does the Enterprise do? It just sits there for FOUR DAYS. And it doesn't occur to Geordi or anyone else that maybe if everything checks out on the other ship, something is going on in space? Maybe the Enterprise crew ought to see if their ship can move ...

That's just sloppy.

No. 2: Troi has two minutes to communicate before the hydrogen runs out. So why do you release the hydrogen the very second she enters R.E.M.? Would you give her say 30 seconds or one minute to kind of get her bearings in the dream? They really jumped the gun on that.

I was kind of dreading it, but overall, I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Still kind of middling, especially for a Season 4 episode.
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 9:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: First Contact

If we had to do over again, I wouldn't have the Riker having sex with Lilith under coercion, but otherwise, I love this episode.

It has a brilliant opening. One of their best.

Carolyn Seymour as Mirasta Yale was fantastic. I so wished they had kept her around for more appearances.

I think this was good enough as a concept to easily be a two or even three-parter. (Which we didn't see three parts until DS9).

I found myself being really interested in the Malcorians and I would have been fine with more interactions just between them. More of the doctor and nurse, for example.

I'm going to forgive the Riker/Lilith scene and also give it four stars!

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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 9:11pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Clues

I agree with Jammer on this one. It was a good outing the first time out. But it doesn't hold up well on repeat viewing or if you stop and start to think about things -- never a good idea for sci-fi.

One of the things that bothered me was how fast Picard just accepted their extreme isolationist needs. I like the idea from Startrekwatcher about the Borg. Throw that in -- just a few lines -- and it ties back to an epic change in the Alpha Quadrant and gives us a better explanation of why they want to go to such lengths to keep themselves hidden.

I'm not sure how to fix the very real problem of the Enterprise never reporting anything to Starfleet even at first.

Bottom line: I liked it better in my memories than I did in a 2018 viewing. Still, it's by no means a stinker.

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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 10:07pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Devil's Due

And the role of Ardra is being played today by Jill Foster Abbott.

Dear God in Heaven! That was an over-the-performance and the biggest weakness of the show.

The actress appears to have studied with Brenda Dickson, the ultrashallow actress who played Jill on "The Young & The Restless" back in the '80s.
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JerJer
Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 6:34am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Offspring

So Data is unique in the galaxy, and nobody has any idea how to build an android. Then Data can suddenly do it in 2 weeks.
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 9:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Wounded

The first episode of DS9, and it's a good one.

It is odd there was this big war that just ended a year ago. Not good writing. All they had to do was say it ended five years ago (putting the peace treaty about a year ahead of the show's intro). Maybe it was like the Vietnam War -- with the fiercest fighting in the middle and then long, slow, painful years before a final peace.

I had not seen this one since the original run of the show. It's even better than I remembered.

Question: That music in the ending scene ... does anyone else think it sounds a little like the DS9 theme?
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 11:12am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Data's Day

Love this episode. Great character moments, and they managed to expand the Romulan world a tiny bit more to boot.

I love the ending, where Data talks about wanting to grow, change and become more than he is today.
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Sarjenka's Little Brother
Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 9:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: Reunion

Shakespearean in tone and body count.

Boy, I sure did hate to see K'Ehleyr go. Made for great drama, but the character and Suzie Plakson brought so much. I wish they had given her more appearances as Dr. Solar.

Count me among the fans that loved these Klingon and Romulan political intrigue episodes.
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