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Paul C
Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 7:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: Business as Usual

No one seems to have spotted it (or mentioned it anyway) so here we go... nice Easter egg at the start. Quark is selling a weapon in the holo suite and it’s serial number is CRM 114. A reference to Dr Strangelove. And of course, nuclear weapons. Also referenced in Back to the Future (Marty hooking up his guitar to that huge amp).
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Paul C
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 5:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: The Darkness and the Light

Sorry I forgot -

Sisko kicking Worf’s arse. ‘You have your orders, dismissed!’
That was good. Don’t see that in ST much.
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Paul C
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 5:40pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: The Darkness and the Light

Not clear to me why they bothered with the disembodied voice part for the messages. Didn’t do anything for the story.

Pretty grim transporter death... and no one even tried to stop Kira looking at her. Of course she’d have said no, but surely someone would say, ‘are you sure you want to see her..?’
Just before the accident we had some banter that was very out of place. Worf and Dax were treating this as a routine transport, but they were intercepting someone who could possibly be murdered. Very blasé.

Pregnant woman gets into multiple fights and risks her baby to seek revenge. That’s just plain stupid behaviour.
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Paul
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 4:00am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S5: The Assignment

On and not one.
Too and not to.

Never seen an error before in your writings Jammer and here we have 2! A rarity!

I like Rom’s character in this, he’s pulling himself up from the bootstraps despite being shot down by Quark and others at every opportunity. He received no encouragement or welcome from the staffers on the day shift (familiar feeling for me) despite his excitement at being there.

Some funny moments ‘I don’t waste time talking to people like everyone else seems to’ and self awareness ‘Not that anyone wants to talk to me.’

I was rooting for him. And got his deserved promotion.
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Paul C
Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:11pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Defiant

First of all, thanks to Elliott for that review, especially the reference to ‘stone etchings’.

“Yes I carved these with a phaser.”
Riker.

A few interesting points.
1) Korinas, if that is her real name, Captain Garrett on Yesterday’s Enterprise. Brilliant casting.
2) No way that Thomas would just be allowed on another ship after 8 years with no human contact.
3) That beard thing, how did he keep a straight face?

Skywalker. You really are a military officer aren’t you? Lot to think about isn’t there?
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Paul C
Sat, Jun 8, 2019, 5:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S3: The Best of Both Worlds, Part I

I just want to give a shout out to McFadden’a acting in this episode. The ‘that’s extraordinary’ line when she is basically looking at a lightbulb, and being a doctor, probably wouldn’t really know what she was looking at in any case, is completely believable. I just really admire that she could look at that and be so convincing.
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Paul C
Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 5:45pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: The First Duty

Watched this again today. This episode gets better each time. One parallel I didn’t notice was that Boothby & Picard say exactly the same thing. “I just made sure you listened to yourself.”

Thought that was a great bit of writing. Simple, yet effective.

It demonstrates that Picard looks up to Boothby so much that he wants to emulate him.

The punishment is fairly typical - back to day 00. Wesley takes that well. However that is pretty light for a death taking place. Despite impassioned pleas. They should have all been expelled, Wesley was right about that. Locarno should have faced charges for manslaughter. It was his responsibility. Then there was the cover up. All in all, fairly irredeemable actions after years of training in leadership, integrity and taking responsibility.

Wesley shouldn’t need to have been reminded of all that.

Then there was the throwing under the bus. That was pretty despicable. To say that, with his father watching on. Wow.
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Ari Paul
Thu, May 9, 2019, 2:30am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: Up the Long Ladder

It was a good episode right up until Riker MURDERED those two people.
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Paul C
Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 7:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

@Gerontius. Thank you.

All I can say is ‘wow’. Loved it.

Will be watching it again.
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Paul C
Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 5:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

@Artymiss

You could well be right, she could know something, that was a very specific situation. However that would show she had knowledge of the future too. But...she did seem to be inspired by the ice, maybe that was a coincidence.

What's frustrating is that it's already aired in the US and I have to keep avoiding the discussion on this site!

The theme about wanting a second chance to do things afresh... isn't that what the Orville actually is? TNG refreshed? Seth made a pitch with CBS for a series, but maybe this is his 'second chance'.

Praying for a new season - otherwise life will be just Discovery to watch. Just Discovery! Imagine.
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Paul C
Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 8:21am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

@Artymiss

Agreed. This must have some effect. Interesting decision she took. The little speech by Ed the end (sorry for the next 5 years) and that future Kelly hadn’t reached any of her goals must have swayed past Kelly away from him.

This means that their logic was wrong. They say ‘oh we know this will work because you have no memory of it.’ However you could say that the past hasn’t been written yet... if the future will change as a result of this, then it’s possible that Isaac never brought her forward, which means she never learns about her future, so she can’t go back and change it.

A lot to unpack there!

Yes 6 days and counting for me.
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Paul C
Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 3:53am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

I really enjoyed this. The story has a hell of a twist - who saw that coming? - despite the more predictable plot points during the episode. For me the laugh out loud moment was the video game scene, where one character is walking the wrong way and Ed can't do anything about it. Acute observation. Plus your opponent finds it easy.

Again, in the UK, so a week behind, I have no idea what they're going to do about this - and it will be something - so can't wait to see.
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Paul
Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 4:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

@James Smith

Thanks for replying James. Ok, fair points. I'll check out those episodes again. Yes, I'm out too, but it has become a bit of a slow-motion-car-crash where you can watch to see how much damage they're going to do. So I may end up watching in the end!

You're right - the cop out ending is so lazy. What they must have decided was 'let's do whatever we want, because we can always make it classified', which goes against what us ST fans believe in. I'm surprised Jammer has swallowed this one - and again, I agree with you, 1 star episode maximum. The space battle which is so hard to understand you can actually go away from it for a while to watch two characters have a chat (and take their time about it) as nothing has changed when you get back anyway! This isn't Star Trek.

It's not clever, it's not inspirational, it's not thoughtful, it's not insightful, it's not full of characters you care about and it doesn't make you wish you were on that ship. Because if you were, you'd spend your days getting interrupted by Burnham or her not doing what you just told her to do.

TNG was all those things. Can't see Disco getting there.
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Paul
Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 5:32am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

One thing not mentioned that is not Star Trek was the belittling and condescending way officers spoke to each other at the start of the episode - a lazy way to create tension and urgency in the story. Sarcastic comments like ‘Are you trying to kill her?’ Have no place in ST, and typified just some of the poor universe creation in this show.

There’s a long list of what else is wrong with this ST world which is a huge shame really. I don’t think I’ll be watching season 3. However the first two seasons of both TNG and Voyager were truly awful, so maybe we could see an improvement.
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Paul G
Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 10:45am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

Let's imagine you're doing your job as a doctor, helping someone, and 5 seconds later you're murdered.
After being miraculously brought back to life, you'd still be in shock. Mega PTSD.
Not wanting to be in the same room as someone else. Probably not wanting a boyfriend, nor friends. Just wanting to be left alone. Probably for years.....

Well, they really could have done better with Culber.
I agree with kinematic and the others on this.
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Paul M.
Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 10:49am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

Let's hope Michelle makes a better showrunner. She doesn't exactly have much experience, but at least she *is* primarily a writer. Kurtzman, on the other hand, has only a couple writing credits in this century and around one million producer credits. At this very moment the guy is producing 5 movies and several TV shows. How anyone can accomplish that in addition to writing, editing, showrunning, and directing is beyond me.
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Paul M.
Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 10:01am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

I thought this season was coming along rather nicely, with its own unique voice and approach to storytelling, up until Red Angel stuff hit us full force, sometime around when Momma Burnham showed up. Since then, these last, say, 4-5 episodes were going down the drain, and quickly. The show abandoned the episodic structure of the earlier two thirds of the season and dived headlong into the narrative and character black hole that is the Control/Red Angel plot. Pathos increased exponentially, tears and fake earnestness flowed like blood at the Red Wedding, outrageous plot points started piling atop one another, and it all culminated in a gigantic space battle that was, like any Michael Bay movie, at the same time a marvel of technical expertise and a textbook example of style without substance or character.

Even upon rewatch, I am still not sure which pew-pew beams are supposed to hit Discovery and Enterprise and which ones are actually fired by the two ships. There is no strategy or tactics to the battle, just thousands of light pixels exploding everywhere. Compare this to any of BSG space battles, which were done on a vastly smaller budget. BSG also had a lot of smaller craft flying around, it had that awesome looking flak barrier that seemed to be present around Big-E and Disco as well -- but there is no comparison. BSG battles were masterpieces of pacing, action, storytelling, and character beats. This thing... ugh.

And that ending, sweet Roberta, that ending. For months Kurtzman had been all around the various media outlets, talking about how the ending will explain any and all canon inconsistencies (which -- canon, I mean -- is rather low on my list of priorities, so I never exactly needed an explanation, but fine, whatever). The explanation: they swore never to talk about it. And Starfleet apparently abandoned perfectly workable and reliable technology like, oh I don't know, spore drive and time travel because, hey, why not? There may be some bad guys who could misuse it, so let's pretend it doesn't exist.

Though, why stop there? I vote for the retirement of antimatter energy production and transporters! They could be abused in a million ways. Oh, and a note to the future Federation engineers: DO NOT DESIGN HOLODECKS!!! Those damn things abuse themselves all the time, not to mention that they seem intent on creating self-aware AIs every now and then. It's only a matter of time before a 20th century afficionado embarks on a Terminator-style holo-adventure with a sentient Arnold replica, and the future is screwed. You were warned. Arnold did say he'd be back.

On a side note: after all is said done, what was with all those strange Borg callbacks that amounted to nothing? Sentient fusing of organic and artificial, green nano-technology injected into the body that assimilates the host (kinda), "struggle is pointless"... What the hell was all that? It's way too reminiscent of the established Borg lore to be a mere coincidence... yet that's exactly what it seems to be from an in-universe standpoint.
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Paul M.
Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 3:31am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

@Trent
"Can someone explain the probe encountered over Kaminar? "

Feels to me like there was some heavy behind-the-scenes rejiggering of the plotlines after the dismissal of the previous showrunners, which happened somewhere early in the season. I don't think all the pieces neatly fall in as we would like.
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Paulus Marius Rex
Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 2:22am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

The music mix in the credits - original Courage theme mixed with DSC theme - that put the cherry on top for me.

Season Two is a win. For all its flaws (of late, the most disappointing involving laying it on too thick with the personal goodbyes), it was much better than Season One. I'm less fussed about canon than most, but am glad to see that distraction hopefully come to an end, because with some more carefully considered writing - they're almost there. Maybe in Season Three, Discovery will find itself.
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Paul M.
Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 6:11pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

This was a disaster. One of the worst Star Trek episodes I have ever seen. There wasn't a single element that made sense: the battle, confrontation with Leland, bomb disarming subplot, vow of silence, explanation of the red bursts, medieval priestesses flying space ships, technobabble to end all technobabbles, and on and on it goes. This was a disaster the likes of which I have never in my life seen on Star Trek, unless you count the likes of Spock's Brain or Threshold. This episode seemed like it was made by a murdered corpse of Michael Bay that underwent extensive zombification somewhere along the way. Abysmal is a kind word for the quality of this... thing.
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Paul G
Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 10:56am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

The second half of the season didn't work for me. Lots of padding, nothing interesting about the 'mysterious' signals. Control was a weak and boring villain. The emotional moments were badly timed. We didn't see enough Saru. Nothing that I havent seen a thousand times before.

The first half of the season was ok though. I hope season 3 brings something new.
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Paul M.
Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 4:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@Daya

"Or it could be Khan."

Nah. Could be K'Ehleyr being delivered to the Enterprise, photon torpedo-style. I mean, she's used to it.
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Paul M.
Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 3:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@Daya,

I don't think that's a photon torpedo lodged in Enterprise's hull. It's way too big. Some kind of probe? Insidious evil malicious thing trying to take control of the ship? Proto-Borg ship-sized nanite-delivery vehicle intent on assimilating everything in its path? Be sure to tune in next week and find out!
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Paul M.
Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 1:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@Trent:

"I think it was done for purely commercial reasons. The TOS era is more swashbuckling, edgier in a pulpy way, has readily packaged villains and so forth. It's the perfect epoch for a vast, pulpy, action series."

There's no reason you can't have a swashbuckling action series post-VOY. Just because it's set in the future doesn't mean the show has to adhere to a more TNG-era approach to storytelling. They could have done whatever they wanted in whatever time period they wanted. Doubly so when you consider that the initial idea was NOT to feature Spock or Enterprise. So if you're doing a prequel show and don't really want to "prequelize" stuff all that much, why do it in the first place? While your explanation certainly has merit, I still think that the primary motivation behind placing DIS ahead of TOS was twofold:

(1) to avoid answering (literal and narrative, not to mention copyright) questions about "Prime or Abrams", and
(2) hitch a ride on the movie bandwagon -- stylistically and by drawing on other common elements.

I still think DIS is superior to Abrams Trek, which I found almost unwatchable.
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Paul M.
Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 5:35am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@Rahul:

(...) killing these writers (...) [is] the choice of starting DSC in the Trek canon roughly a decade before TOS. This series needed to start sometime in the future after VOY finished (...)

I speculated years ago that the, frankly unneeded, decision to place DIS pre-TOS is the likely result of not wanting to mess with split timelines that resulted from Abrams' movies and thus confuse the audiences that were first introduced to the franchise courtesy of J.J.

Now, I believe this was weird and unnecessary: old Trekkies know better, and new ones will hardly be bothered -- if they even notice anything -- by some divergent lore, e.g. Vulcan still being there.

But such is the way of Hollywood: I sincerely doubt that the present course of action was the result of creators' and showrunners' decisions, but was more likely mandated by execs from above because they wanted to tie their show more closely to the J.J. Trek.

Of course, once you're under that mandate, it's still the responsibility of the showrunners to deliver the best possible product. That they haven't speaks primarily to their failings.
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