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Patrick D
Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 1:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

I guess I'm alone in this arena. I've been watching TNG for decades and I still love it. Even seasons 1 and 2 are more watchable *to me* than most of of Voyager and Enterprise. Part of it might be nostalgia. Part of it might be than I know that some of the weaker episodes of those early seasons (like "Hide and Q" and "Datalore") lead to bigger and better things down the road. Even at its worst, TNG strived to be a thoughtful show (with exceptions like "Sub Rosa" and "Genesis").

I don't need Trek to be ultra-jaded like The Sopranos and I don't need it to be paced like a Fast and the Furious movie. Just let it make me think, feel, experience something unique and wonderful and help me see the world in a different way. And would it kill Trek to be cultured, inspiring and humanistic again? Can't they give us one new spin-off in the true spirit of the first two Roddenberry-created Trek shows? Just one?
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Patrick D
Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 10:54am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

This is purely anecdotal, but the Trek show--indeed the TV show, in general--that I've had the worst time talking people into watching was Deep Space Nine. All the people I've tried to talk into watching the show are deeply intelligent people with otherwise good taste, but there's never been a person who seemed enthusiastic about watching it and some have voiced disdain. In some ways it's the most critically acclaimed Trek show, but it is also a HARD sell.

On the flip side, Firefly was the easiest show I've ever got many people to watch and love. Go figure.
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Patrick D
Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 3:32pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

@Chrome

I never thought "Skin of Evil" was that bad an episode. In fact it was a pretty compelling story. Sure the ending with Tasha's funeral is maudlin, but it was otherwise pretty solid, though campy.

I agree with you though, season 1 of TNG is unfairly maligned for the most part. Episodes like "The Big Goodbye", "11001001", "Heart of Glory" and "Conspiracy" acquit it well. And there's a sense of wonderment in the first season of TNG that no other Trek series that came after can come close to touching.

Star Trek: Enterprise's first season was so appallingly mediocre and forgettable, that it was the first Star Trek series that I gave up on watching.
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Patrick D
Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 11:19am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

I'm a hardcore TNG fan, and even I'm like, "TNG's first season is the best? REALLY?"

I'd rank the classic shows' first season thusly:

TOS
DS9
VOY
TNG
ENT
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Patrick
Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 2:42am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 1

ps. portable transporters anywhere to anywhere? How does that work giving its gigantic power needs and needs really fine sensors/scanners/de-constructors. But you still have to guess and hope where you end up apparently and a dramatic 30 second charging time. Uhuh. Whatever they use for power, can use it to power star ships too. Given the old style transporter pad to anywhere already gives enough story problems... (its known limitations were already thrown out of the window in one of those nutrek movies without giving any thought to consequences). Alas, magic fantasy.
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Patrick
Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 2:25am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 1

After watching only a few episodes of season 1 before giving up and skipping the rest... I thought let's see what's going on in season 3. Some 'fun' pickings...

-Emotional overacting and 360 degrees character turns
-The burn. It just happened. Don't ask questions. It's magic. Help the dilithium is melting because it's expiry date.
-A Giant snail that's bulletproof because noone shoots. Greenpeace in space.
-We destroyed time travel equipment so the whole universe can't do it anymore.
-Star Wars shooting gallery
-Dramatic stand offs
-Not really going anywhere (a problem with many serial story arc series), no intro, problem, solution, end.
-What are the odds of exiting a wormhole only to hit a ship and crash land on a class A planet very nearby
-Ironman in space
-Too much gizzmoo. Bling bling holograms
-Surprised things have changed in 1000 years? What NO Roman Empire?!

Ok, it could be silly space adventure fun. Indiana Jones in space. But it's just not Star Trek.

Signing off.
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Patrick D
Sat, Oct 10, 2020, 5:17am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

@MossBoss

Seconded. Lower Decks might be an animated comedy, but despite its irreverence, it actually FEELS like TOS/TNG--they're *actually* exploring the universe--what a concept! (This goes for The Orville as well) In fact, it's the only Trek show under Kurtzman that's halfway respectful to the mythos. The humor gets wittier as it goes along (especially the last two episodes) and the characters are finally beginning to get some actual depth (especially the last two episodes). Believe me, I've had antipathy to most everything post-TNG, DS9 was great television despite it taking a wrecking ball to Gene Roddenberry's vision ; Voyager had it's occasional stand-out episode despite it being a borderline disaster of a series; Enterprise was the most mediocre Trek show in history; the Kelvinverse movies are appalling; and I couldn't get into Discovery or Picard (and when a hardcore TNG fan can't get into Picard, there's something wrong). I went into Lower Decks expecting to hate watch a flaming train wreck of a series. Instead, it also won me over! Lower Decks is an ANIMATED COMEDY. Don't go into it expecting "The Inner Light" or "Duet". It's not really canon and it still has more respect for the Roddenberry mythos than most anything that came after Enterprise. It's a romp. It's a lark. It's FUN--something that Trek hasn't been in decades (at least for me). I say: bring on season 2!
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Patrick D
Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 7:05am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

WOW! What an amazing way to wrap up the season. The show really came into its own these last 2 episodes. I started watching this show with a morbid curiosity and expecting to hate it, but it won me over. "No Small Parts" is a solid 4-star outing and feels like actual Star Trek with witty, Futurama-style humor. The humor and drama balance each other nicely in a way I haven't seen since Joss Whedon's heyday. I'm really looking forward to the next season (hopefully they'll be a next season despite the pandemic).

Jammer, I totally recommend this to watch even if you don't review it. This is great stuff!
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Patrick D
Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 1:43am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

"I'm going to feed you to an Armus!"-- Mariner
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Patrick D
Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 2:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

@Marlboro

I'm a massive Star Trek fan. I couldn't finish Star Trek: Enterprise, I despise the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, and I can't abide Star Trek: Discovery or Star Trek: Picard, but I really dig Star Trek: Lower Decks.

How do I fit into your formulae?
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Patrick
Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 11:56am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Royale

There was a time were I took TNG quite serious and I would have issues with this episode. However, it was the first episode I remember my young self watching and having a relaxing Time. Nowadays I can quite enjoy the silliness of it all. It has charm. Its really nothing too special, but it has familiar warmth to it and the acting on screen fits it nicely. Like.
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Patrick D
Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 11:50am (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

As far as Lower Decks goes, this is a 4 star episode. The humor is clever and the characters are developing depth!I never thought I'd love a Trek show under the auspices of Alex Kurtzman, but here it is! I'm looking forward the season finale next week!
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Patrick D
Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 1:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

"Roga Danar? Get the f*** out of my face with that."--Ensign Mariner
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Patrick D
Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 12:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

I can't believe they've actually made a good Star Trek series in the 21st century! Lower Decks really surprised me. I was all set to hate it, but it's grown on me. The humor is cute and chuckle-worthy. Is it Rick and Morty-level good? By no means, but it's actually respectful of the Trek mythos which Star Trek: Discovery and Star Trek: Picard can't begin to claim. The newest episode, "Veritas" is delightful. (With an awesome special guest star)

Jammer, I hope you get a chance to watch this show. It's delightful.
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Patrick D
Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 6:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

Trek has been soulless and visionless since 2009.

It hasn't been a major cultural force since 1996.

I don't see a turnaround here, sadly.
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Patrick D
Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 6:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

"In know but it would be nice to hear from a few leading minds. Not some guy from a backwater Indian university or Ukraine."

I don't mean to interrupt, but it doesn't sound like you understand OmicronThetaDeltaPhi's point. He's saying that the statement "a conversation is not worth having without leading minds involved" is just appealing to authority because the implication is that no conversation of importance can originate on a subject unless experts are involved. If that's the case for you, then the simple answer is not to engage in such a discussion. For the others, however, there have been reasoned arguments that proliferated into linking interesting sources and citing data. They might not be experts, but that doesn't mean they can't learn from sharing expert opinion with each other.

"Technically, quoting these guys is still an authority argument but not one that carries much weight."

Not exactly, appealing to authority would be dropping names like Einstein but not explaining why Einstein was correct. If you cite an authority and explain the reasoning for the citation, you're not appealing to authority, you're giving your argument an added basis in published fact.
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Patrick
Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 8:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

Did not watch the show. Did watch some of the last Picard Data scenes on youtube. They didnt show what happened to Picard after his deadscene and the whole thing was quite redundant and it feels wrong. We have almost eternal life now but dont give it. Aha. And Picard isnt at all shocked what they did to him. And for what reason? Put an old man in an old replicant so he still has to die a second time but in a synthetic way? What kind of androids are these? Clones seems more like it.

Anyway why didnt they put Data back i a new body? Why he had to stay in eternal limbo? And why he was aware it was a simulation? Did he find out himself?
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Patrick D
Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 8:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

@skye francis-maidstone

"I'm SO glad they didn't end with a 30 minute space battle like DSC S2 did (a finale that "everyone" except me apparently loved). That may have ruined what was on the whole a damn fine season."

I mean, it looked cool but it didn't really cap off the season in a way that meaningfully closed any arcs of the season (except for guest character Pike's, I suppose). And then the show comes up with the most inelegant solution in fiction by having everyone "forget what happened" in first two seasons of DISCO. I'm curious about what will happen in season 3 of DISCO, but I'm not excited about it at all.

Say what you will about this show, but at least it followed through with Picard being the optimistic hero and brings everyone into the light. Yes, they left many details hanging, but the main story arcs were more or less resolved in a plausibly Trekkian way. That plus the acting puts this leagues ahead of DISCO.

Set in a course for season 2, maximum warp. Engage!
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Patrick D
Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 7:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

"First, that really backfired didn't it?"

Maddox was not aware of how sophisticated the Zhat Vash was. Really though, how could he know that? In Maddox's defense, it appears as if the androids could defend themselves when needed and even seek out help like Picard (I think Dahj even knew Picard specifically could be trusted).

"Second, if he can program them to behave as perfectly passable humans, then he can program them to act like perfectly passable humans while knowing their true identity."

That's a big assumption to make. What would he even have to gain by having them know they are androids? Presumably, he can already activate them when it suits his purposes.

"Third, still doesn't explain why Soji was on a Borg cube of all places"

A Borg cube where Romulans are doing research on synthetic technology in a joint operation with the Federation, you mean. It sounds like the perfect opportunity to gain intel on the Romulans.
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Patrick D
Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 6:49pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

@Glom

"Why were Dahj and Soji where they were? Maddox said something about sending them out to monitor anti-synth activity. Why then send Soji to a derelict Borg cube. More importantly, why were they sleepers? That is never addressed and as it stands makes no sense. YMMV whether these supermassive plot holes affect the overall experience, but to many of us, when the narrative is geared around the mystery these things matter."

Maddox said he knew there was sort of Romulan conspiracy that was targeting his work with synthetics and he wanted to know the truth about it. He knew that the conspiracy had penetrated the Federation, so it seems that he sent Dahj off to gather intel in the Federation while Soji did something similar with the Romulans. We can assume they're "sleepers" because if they both know they were androids and started behaving like androids, they'd likely blow their cover and Maddox would get nothing.
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Patrick D
Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:37pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

Batfunk said:

"But I was wrong. As good actor as he is, he takes advantage of his producer role to inject his own interests as liberal English citizen:brexit, immigration, democracies difficulties..."

You have to squint really hard to find anything like that. You say the Federation not helping the Romulans is like Brexit? Not really. The Federation is still the big cooperation of nations (in fact, it's more similar to the EU) and not helping out the Romulans would be something like not sending aid to Syria or Ukraine. But see, I'm stretching here to even make these simple analogies work. There just isn't a big straightforward political agenda going on.

Frankly, I'd be happy if this show made more of the bold liberal statements you speak of, but at best it's just the same allegorical stuff you always see in Star Trek.
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Patrick D
Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 10:13pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1

@Jason R and others

"I guess the issue is it's like so much in this show - half baked and slapdash. Of course we know the reason androids can mind meld - because it was literally the only means they could think of to permit plot point A to get to plot point B. Just slap it together quick and dirty. Don't think too much, don't stop to consider, whatever Androids can mind meld, get with the program."

I see what you mean, but I tend to roll with the punches more as long as I'm being entertained. That's not for lack of thinking, it's more along the lines of thinking ahead to next week when I'll have a full picture of the story in my head and I can finally give this episode a full assessment. And to be fair, this show does go into detail in some episodes -- which is why this generally holds together better for me than DISCO which was more like a constant action movie.

Part of what also makes this episode odd, I feel, is that despite the serialized structure of the rest of the show, this episode alone seems framed very much as a two-part finale that will naturally tie up the lose the ends, or at least most of them. That makes this much more jarring than Nepenthe, for example, which had a continuing story cooked into it. But unlike here, we had no expectation that Nepenthe would have an immediate follow-up episode with Riker and Deanna, etc.
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Patrick D
Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 8:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1

Personally, I don't see the problem with Synths being able to mind meld. In past episodes, they've explained to us that Soji is able to replicate biological functions of human beings such as eating, salivating, taste preference, and crying. If such physiological replications of humans are possible, why wouldn't synthetic replications of Vulcan functions also be possible?

@Gerontius

"One more week of Picard to go, and then I'll probably be hunkering down in my family self isolation going back through classic Star Trek (and also Mash)."

Good choice, my man. TOS has some of the most fun and bizarrely episodic shows that would serve as a nice contrast to the serialized stories we've been getting. Plus I've found people on this board have been much nicer when talking about the older shows.
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Patrick D
Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 10:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1

Nicely said, Oriosiris. I only hope your comment doesn’t fall on deaf ears.

Live Long and Prosper, friend.
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Patrick D
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 10:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1

I am really loving this show. At the same time, I honestly can’t defend its many many shortcomings. How odd.
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