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Oirad
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 8:24am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: An Obol for Charon

@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi: I was sarcastic. Obviously the act is horrible, a crime of war, but the show doesn't care (and so, since it not seen as wrong, it can't really be something for which Burnham can seek/get redemption). Even Georgiu (who a few episodes later is said to be one of the best captains of Starfleet) doesn't bat an eyelid and goes along with the plan.
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Oirad
Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 6:00am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S2: An Obol for Charon

Just to chime in, I always thought one of the main problems of Discovery S1 was that it was not very clear what exactly Burnham was trying to get redemption for.

Lots of people (in the show) say that she started the war (Lorca says it explicitly in his first episode; and Burnham herself keeps track of the number of dead, seemingly endorsing this view). But in the premiere it was actually fairly clear that T'Kuvma basically forced the war and that Burnham (and Georgiu) just followed his script.

Unless the problem is killing T'Kuvma: but even not counting that we don't know if capturing him would have stopped the war (which, honestly, sounds doubtful), the only one to ever bring it up is the Klingon general, who (besides being the eviiiiiil adversary) is also trash-talking Burnham and is being an hypocrite since he had no intention of following T'Kuvma, but just wanted the war.

The mutiny is the other obvious answer (and would fit with the mutiny at the end of the season), but again it didn't really have consequences (it was stopped in, like, ten seconds) and was done clearly in a moment of distress (which just shows how poor was her self-control, not much her morality).

Or maybe it's the fact that she led her captain to the death (which would fit with the Emperor Georgiu storyline). Except that this arc doesn't really have a conclusion (or has an abhorrent conclusion, with letting the evil version of her captain free just because she feels guilty).

Or maybe it's planting bombs in the cadavers of the enemy to blow him up. Ops, no, sorry, they are evil so nobody cares.
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Oirad
Wed, Feb 7, 2018, 12:50pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S1: The War Without, The War Within

The allegory is quite clear: the Federation is "us" (i.e., the West, or US since this is an American show), the Klingons are the religious fundamentalist, Lorca (and the MU Terran) are the right-wing fanatics who look resonable at first (and seem to be "what is needed" in a time of crisis) but are actually fascists.

As with many things in Discovery, it is not a bad idea, but is wholly undeveloped and undermined by the various pieces - the Klingons are much more one-dimensional than their TNG (or even ENT) version, Lorca just becomes a racism-spouting superbad once he drops his fa├žade, putting MU!Georgiu on the command chair is nonsensical. And the Federation, for some reason, is so weak that it can't survive even against a non-unified Klingon Empire.
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