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Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 1:13am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Valiant

Peter G. is more or less correct.

I was in the military a long time ago and an officer cannot just waltz in and say: I have the highest rank. Everybody has to follow my orders.

Nog wasn't commissioned to take over the Valiant.
In other words an officer with the rank captain doesn't have power over every lower officer everywhere. Even a four star admiral cannot give an order to the lowest solider if that soldier is in a unit that isn't under the command of that four star admiral.
Chain of command. ;)
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Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 12:50am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Host

Sorry Dave I would, as always, be swift and brutal but I have a hard time seeing the screen because my eyes won't stop rolling.
Also let's not forget the Riker maneuver

A man who "presents" himself that way certainly has no problems down there.

But Dave because you asked I issue my most severe warning
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Peter G.
Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 12:46am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Valiant

@ Adam,

An interesting idea, but since Waters was named Acting Captain by an actual Captain, that commission would be an official one and therefore Waters was an actual Captain in rank until such a time as a senior officer relieved him of that rank. Now, if all the officers had died, and Waters had assumed command simply by virtue of being the senior cadet, then any officer would indeed outrank him. But unless I'm mistaken I think his rank was made official.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 11:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Valiant

What bothered me about this episode is that technically speaking, Nog was the ranking officer on the ship since everyone else were cadets. The command was his, and he should have immediately turned the ship around and taken it home. At the end, Nog blames Captain Watters for being a bad Captain when Nog himself is actually responsible for the death of Red Squad via his inaction.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 11:45pm (UTC -5)
Re: BSG S4: He That Believeth in Me

so glad the spoilers from 2008 were mostly removed
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 10:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Projections

I enjoyed this one, I usually roll my eyes at holodeck error episodes but this was fun to follow along.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 7:05pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

I can't and never will consider Discovery as ANY part of classic Star Trek canon. Probably not the Picard show,Or the Section 31 show either.I don't care what CBS or the show-runners say. Discovery is just too aesthetically and tonality different for me to reconcile it with classic Trek. They have just taken wayyyy too many liberties with aesthetics and canon. The ridiculous things for me that will never fit in for instance the R2-D2 like droids on the Enterprise hull or the Red Angel Iron Man suit . They are not era appropriate. For me these and the terrible (IMO) writing and unlikable characters are just insulting, laughable and cringe worthy . But if people like it that's absolutely fine. Everyone is different and has different opinions and tastes. I totally get it I just can't bring myself to watch it.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 4:49pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Host

I read the comment as tongue in cheek.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 4:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Friday's Child

@ Sarjenka's Brother

I also liked the portrayal of the Capellans -- a fearsome tribe with strict customs. Didn't think their costumes were goofy though.

But the Capellans are not inherently villains. Only because the Klingon was interfering was there dissension in the tribe and toward the Federation. But, presumably if there are different tribes of Capellans, maybe their analogues in the 24th century could be the Kazon.

On the topic of TOS S2 villains, I think what would be more interesting and plausible (since the Capellans are a tribe and are probably between 1 and 2 millenia of being a space-faring race) is if the modern-day Romans from "Bread and Circuses" or the Nazis from "Patterns of Force" (in a few centuries) developed into space-faring races -- basically bringing fascism into the 23rd and 24th centuries. But then again, this has already largely been done with the Romulans/Klingons/Cardassians.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 3:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S6: Rocks and Shoals

@Startrekwatcher - I think the idea of having Dax injured was due to the fact Terry Farrell had extremely sensitive skin. Having her laid up in the cave for the majority of the episode meant she wouldn’t have to film any exterior scenes. I remembering reading that her skin condition played havoc with the filming of “Let He Who Is Without Sin”.
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Sarjenka's Brother
Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 2:09pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: The Doomsday Machine

One of the best episodes of TOS and any Trek. I keep hoping for canonical treatment of the DM again.
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Sarjenka's Brother
Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 2:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Metamorphosis

Wes B. -- I had the exact same thought on the Deck/Ilia probe.

I've also wondered how folks would have felt if that had been Uhura or Chapel in the shuttle dying and left behind to make sure handsome Mr. Cochrane had someone to knock boots with.
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Sarjenka's Brother
Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 1:49pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Friday's Child

Goofy costumes aside, the Capellans made for one of the more interesting one-time-visited alien races in all of Trekdom.

I think they could make a compelling villains-you-respect race in the Prime Universe set in the decades after DS9 and Voyager.

At that point, they've had a couple of centuries of being exploited for their minerals and they've decided to give up their tents and head for the stars. As a space-faring race with technology equal to the Federation, they could easily emerge as worthy rivals to the Federation, Klingons and Romulans.
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Dave in MN
Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 12:45pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Host


Not like I particularly care very much (I'm no PC warrior), but I find it ironic that if commenters were making similar comments about Beverly's breast size, the condemnation here would be swift and brutal.

It's petty and sexist.
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Jason R.
Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 12:28pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Host

"Well guess what? Bev is his doctor so guess what she knows? That's right his peepee size. And then at the end of the episode that lady doesn't have one at all. Bet that makes you think huh."

Guess that explains why we never see Riker with the same woman twice. Bravo sir - you are wise indeed.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 2:47am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S5: Silicon Avatar

I was so glad when the entity died, I smiled as I saw Picard's face after the entity exploded, I was like "fuck you picard, fuck you and your bullshit"

Justice has been served.
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Sam Mickle
Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 1:38pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S4: The Host

Everyone is thinking way too hard about this episode. It was about the most simple issue that everyone seems to overlook in this episode. Penis size. Don't believe me? ok think about this. Odan must have had THE BIG ONE. So he dies right and the host swap out happens. Then oh look Riker is the new host. Well guess what? Bev is his doctor so guess what she knows? That's right his peepee size. And then at the end of the episode that lady doesn't have one at all. Bet that makes you think huh.
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Matthew Siegel
Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 1:23am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S6: Muse

I weirdly liked this a lot, even though on its face it doesn't seem that interesting... the way it gradually became about the creative process as a whole was just engaging. Perhaps because I did not expect that to be the theme of the episode, but it's a unique and interesting theme that works here.
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Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 8:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Too Short a Season

I think many people are thinking of the anti-aging drug as a tangential subplot, but it's the whole point: Much as a person might want to "go back" to fix and/or atone for the mistakes of youth, the attempt to do so is fatal to the person they have become.

Despite bad make-up and worse acting, this episode starts looking a lot better when you reach the time of life when you have to start facing that reality.
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Joe Langfitt
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 6:47pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Course: Oblivion

This type of conceptual plot reminds me very much of the Alternate worlds technique that has been used by more than one Science Fiction TV series. It amounts to a kind of cheap trick that points to a "road not taken" type of theme. Success depends on the quality of presentation and emotional buildup and this is enough for some people although to it kind of negates the more philosophical motive of what science fiction is about. This could have been a story about a ship striking an iceburg with all hands lost and it could be judged effective. I would cite one possible fruitful conjecture that was never even presented. If we live in a deterministic universe and if as was presented the copy crew and ship was completely like the original then would not their futures be identical. if you really play it out then there would be the dilemma of matter occupying the same space and time. This is the conveniance of the alternate universe where some sort of difference is assumed.
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Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 3:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Peter G.
Yes, from a scientific standpoint that is a bad way to ask such a question and don't worry I reading this stuff for reasons unrelated to this discussion.

I posted it merely for the reason that it is from that period and contains a heartwarming message. :)
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Bobbington Mc Bob
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 3:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Heart of Stone

I think that a quick CTRL-F of the word "nog" confirms it, with 139 returns on this page: The Nog storyline was seriously impressive and in no way a second place to the A plot.

There is no way I would have predicted any emotional weight to any Nog scene, and yet his "I don't want to end up like my father" actually really got me. It was handled equally well by Sisko, who of course, was aiming for such a cathartic release all along. It was awesome to see a lightweight side character suddenly become something much deeper, and to be able to relate deeply to someone from a race whose previous gyrating, one-dimensional representations on the show have left me wanting to hit the "skip forward" button in netflix.

Though I may get shot in the head with a phaser for saying so, lately I have found myself feeling a blasphemous thought: **DS9 might actually be even better than TNG**.
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Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 2:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

I wish there would be some mechanism here for people to fork off into heir own private nattering back and forth off topic ramblings of brain-vomit and not clutter up these comment sections with irrelevance.
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Peter G.
Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 2:03pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@ Booming,

I appreciate the effort to find data, but the problem with questionnaires like that is they are deeply flawed. I don't think there's very much to go on based on those, although than that perhaps people don't like to think that they've made decisions for material reasons. Whether in fact they really did or didn't is not data that can be drawn from such studies. Incidentally I wasn't even making an argument about whether material considerations are the final basis of any decision. All I said above was that it seems to be relevant to people upfront (i.e., before love has any chance to develop).
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Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 1:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S2: Who Mourns for Adonais?

@Peter G.
I'm digging through giant amounts of data and just came across an interesting little data piece from a German family review made in 1968. People were asked: What were the most important reasons for choosing their partner:
Love 39%
Character 30%
material reasons 5%
same interests, healthiness, proficiency, home behavior (don't ask me how they came up with that category) 29 %
had no choice 3%

Love 41%
Character 33%
material reasons 9%
same interests, healthiness, proficiency, home behavior 14%
had no choice 3%

So for more than two thirds in both genders love and character even in the 60s were the most important reasons. Multiple answers were possible. :)

(You could of course argue that social desirability has influenced the results)
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