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Booming
Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 5:36am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

I believe one of those explanations. :D
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Jason R.
Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:11am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

"Why do you doubt it?"

For the same reason I doubt that violent video games and movies cause murders, or pornography causes sexual violence, or the decline in religion causes crime - because it's simplistic, because it sounds more like ideology than than science, because it is borderline impossible to prove, because I like giving you a hard time? :)
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Dave in MN
Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 3:51am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Future's End, Part II

Keeping Sarah Silverman's character around would've been brilliant!
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Dave in MN
Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 3:20am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

Can each of us agree to let this subject go?

I've said what I had to say about it. Haven't you?
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Booming
Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 3:12am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

@Jason
"Anything's possible I suppose but I really doubt it."
Why do you doubt it? Negative comments enforce cultural norms. In this case, women are primarily judged by how they look. If they are overweight then that decreases their worth as a human being which then makes it justifiable for many people to humiliate them, while women who are very thin are praised. This leads to certain unhealthy ideals and then to eating disorders.
And to add to that, being slightly overweight actually prolongs life expectancy.

@Cody
Are you really ready to transition from white supremacy posts to this?
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Dave in MN
Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:40am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

@ Mal

I would buy that bumper sticker in a heartbeat.
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LandoSystem
Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 1:03am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: Whom Gods Destroy

@Trish, my best guess is that in certain shots they lit her with a green light.
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BRiAN
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 10:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Future's End, Part II

solid two parter with the Tom Paris and Sarah Silverman stuff being really strong.

Didn't really like the way they stopped the paradox or future form happening... I want a clever twist from these types of stories. They just... shot the rift with torpedoes?? Kind of a let down.

Would have been great to have Sarah Silverman stow away and join the cast, have to learn how to adjust to live on Voyager. Ah well. Might have ruined Silvermans comic career, who knows.
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BRiAN
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 10:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Future's End, Part I

Sarah Silverman really helps make this two parter work. She adds a lot of life to this Voyager crew of wet blankets, and plays off of Tom Paris well. Rumors are she almost became a regular. Would have made the show a lot better IMO, and the show would have been better for it if it took more risks like that.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 8:46pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

I'm reading through the comments and I'm getting flashbacks to the whole discussion about Jonathan Frakes's weight a few months ago.

The actress who plays Tilly had a baby right before filming resumed. As I said before, the actors are allowed to have private lives and they may have medical issues we are not privy to.

Besides, pretty much everyone understands that seasons of a show take quite awhile to produce. Think about when child actors hit puberty:, no one bitches about how Jake or Wesley grew 2 inches between consecutive episodes.

If Tilly's appearance bothers a viewer, I think they should ask themselves why they're so hung up on it.
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Jason R.
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 8:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

"I just discovered the antispam answer doesn't accept "Jellico".

Haha you win the forum sir.
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Jason R.
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 8:30pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

"You think my statement is incorrect"

That people making mildly negative comments about an actress's weight gain literally causes people to become anorexic? Anything's possible I suppose but I really doubt it.
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Austin
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 8:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S1: Into the Forest I Go

I agree with a lot of the reviewers, this is the best of the season so far. A lot of old school type Trek in the last 3 episodes, granted some of it was hit and miss. I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing Klingons are ribbed NOT for his pleasure, but I guess that’s the new norm for Trek on CBSAA... doing things because you CAN not because you SHOULD. It’s a shame because all previous Trek incarnations I could watch with my daughter in the room. I don’t like the F Bombs and gore either, call me old school, but there’s a certain artistry in NOT showing everything GOT style. Otherwise, I’m just happy to have more Trek on TV. 3.5 stars from me as well.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 8:20pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

I just discovered the antispam answer doesn't accept "Jellico".

IAnyways, 'll keep it brief-ish (for once)

THINGS I LIKED:

Seeing the crew actually work together as a crew

Saru - the actor who plays him is very talented

Tilly amuses me - maybe not for the right reasons but again the actress has a certain likability to her

The FX - I could actually see what was happening (mostly)

The score - finally a Trek score focused on generating mood vs. the usual overdone emotive bombast

The direction/ editing - I can tell there were some reshoot scenes intermixed but it was much more seamless than most Nu-Trek

WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE:

Georgiou - Michelle Yeoh is SO talented so why do they write her to be so carttonishly evil? I'm glad the character wants to get shit done, but c'mon! I can think of 80's cartoon villians written with more nuance. Also, 3 pain-phaser shots and she's smiling? Whatever. (Hopefully she's not going to resurrect Section 31 when the crew inevitably reassembles Starfleet)

The Doctor's Pep Talk - What? He just had to unhook one wire and hook up another. This is like Agnes on STP freaking out about pushing the Engage Button.

Gratutious gore - You know what I'm talking about. Yuck.

The death sentence - out you go into the cold, but here's some survival gear and rations. Might as well have had him twirl his mustache and say " I'll be back!"

Does Implant Lady have a Control infection? - God, I hope not

Gene scooping up body parts - he leaves his family forever to go to the future and this is his job? The officers mock him? Also, "Gene"? The writers have to know a Trekkie well immediately think Roddenberry. I didn't like that.

Parasitic Ice - that's not how ice works, but ok. No flamethrowers in the future? Also, didn't I see this on Doctor Who once?

The scientifically impossible planet

Michael saving the day - because of course she would, sigh.

I have a feeling the first 2 episodes of this season were originally a single episode that they padded out with reshoots. Hence much of the artificial drama.

This wasn't good, but it definitely could've been much worse. No Michael for most of an episode!

⭐⭐
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Booming
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:15pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

@Jason
"You're a psychiatrist now?"
You think my statement is incorrect?
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Gail NYC
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:13pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Storm Front, Part I

I enjoyed this one!

Thavash, this was just the latest in a string of episodes that I got a "Quantum Leap" vibe from. Whenever Archer wakes up in some strange new place or time and has to figure things out, I get that vibe. Happens a lot.

I could definitely have done without the Italian-American mob stereotypes, but other than that I thought it was fun.

Some of you are saying "Alien Nazi bad guys" like it was a BAD thing!
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Frankgeo
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

Jammer, can you please either get a moderator for these comments or discontinue this comment section. The same people are commenting time and time again and mostly they’re arguing each other. The comments this time are out of hand. They seem to mostly about Tilly’s weight. I noticed it also but who cares. I’m done with these comments. I like Discovery and if you don’t like it don’t watch it!
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Jason R.
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 5:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

"Millions of women have anorexia and hundreds of thousands of men. These kind of comments create more"

You're a psychiatrist now?
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Sen-Sors
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 5:27pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

"To the extent that we're discussing things like decorum and decency, there is a *way* to tell the truth that can be aggressive, vindictive, mocking, and a way that is more neutral and factual, and of course a way that has a kind spirit."

Okay, sure. So calling someone "unrecognizable" and "ballooning"; which camp does that fit in?

I don't think pointing out an actor's weight gain on a TV show makes someone a bad person, and it's worth noting that Tomalek has commented on many other aspects of the show besides that topic. However, the defense of "genuinely curious of what you dislike about me saying this, I'm just pointing out the truth" comes off as a little disingenuous. A bit babe-in-the-woods, if you will.

Surely we are all aware of the context of people's weight, self-esteem and the judgement society will often place upon you in relation to it. You can see it in this very thread with the assertion that Wiseman is failing as an actor due to her weight gain. Is it really a surprise that some people would find such a discussion distasteful?
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Caoimhin
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 5:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

I bet that guy with the comically large 20th century shovel is really pleased he gave up his life to accompany Burnham into the far future. Has he ever even met her I wonder? What's his position on the ship anyhow, lavatory cleaner? That whole scene was made no sense.
Saru was very watchable in this, however the parasitic ice effects looked very dated, wouldn't have been out of place in TNG.
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EventualZen
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 4:48pm (UTC -5)
Re: Star Trek: First Contact

Why does the Borg queen raise her hand to make the Borg drones desist going after Data? Aren't they connected wirelessly? In an earlier scene she condemns Data for using speech because it's primitive.

Probably the best TNG-era film for entertainment value, 8/10.
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Booming
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 4:37pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

@Peter
Well, first of all truth is often a matter of perspective, more importantly it is a matter of framing. Saying something that is true can be bad or good. For example:"Some people say that Jews control the media." or "Transpeople are far more often participants when rape happens than the average citizen." Both is true. Both truth are used in a very sinister way. For the first example, sure some people say everything. For the second one should probably add that they are the ones being raped. Point being that it depends.
Now let's have a look at Tomalak's comments:
- Tilly is almost unrecognisable now
- I find Tilly's weight gain very striking so I observed it, yeah.
Then he posted before/after pictures of her to prove her weight gain
- although it is striking how fast Tilly has ballooned.
- amusingly they reference how much fitter the character is getting even as she balloons in weight.

Is this just telling the truth or is this barely concealed douchebaggery.

After that he started to attack people, me included, then wrote to me "The idea that character weight gain is off limits is your weird hang up" and suggested that I leave this forum if I have a problem with what he writes. The only thing I had done at that point was making fun of him for starting with this stupid topic. I never said anything about him needing my permission or whatever.

"Great post, Peter G. It's sad that it even needs saying."
Almost got whiplash from rolling my eyes.
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MidshipmanNorris
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 2:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 1

@SlackerInc

You may have missed a bit of subtlety in the dialogue, I think.

It isn't the brawl itself that is the "formative experience." It is the fact that he almost died, and had to have his normal heart replaced with an artificial heart. In the episode where he first talks about it, "Samaritan Snare," he is telling the story to Wesley Crusher (cuz they're stuck on a shuttlecraft trip to Starbase Whatever-It-Is together):

PICARD
"If we had not been so near to a medical facility, I would surely have died."

WESLEY
"Really... then what happened?"

PICARD
"...Nothing. I was no hero, Wesley. I was an undisciplined, loud-mouthed, opinionated young man who was waaay out of his league. (sigh) I learned a very hard, very painful lesson that day, but I learned it well. I hope you never have to learn it the same way."

The 'formative experience' was realizing that you can't just go around with a giant chip on your shoulder, or you could most definitely get your stupid jerk ass killed. When he averts this event, he never learns how fragile life is, how important it is to make every moment count. This is what makes him into the man who becomes Captain of the Enterprise, instead of a lowly science officer who eventually got bored of trying to advance his Starfleet Career.

I do admit that this is kind of hard to wrap your mind around, on the first couple viewings, and it is partially explained in a veeeery distant 2nd season episode. So I could see how it got by you.
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Yanks
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 1:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

Tilly doesn't lack in intelligence, just confidence.
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Booming
Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 12:31pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S3: Far From Home

Wisemann doesn't have to hear it herself for it to be fatshaming. She is not the only person who is overweight. Millions of women have anorexia and hundreds of thousands of men. These kind of comments create more. So yeah, fatshaming does not have to be said in front of somebody, in this case Wisemann, to cause damage. And disclaimer because it has be said now. So that none cries persecution:" This being hurtful doesn't mean that you cannot say or write it." It just means that you are a bad person or are at least pissing away karma points.

And even if this doesn't lead to potentially deadly eating disorders. Who wants to hurt people for no reason?!
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