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Muninn Crow
Mon, Dec 5, 2016, 8:21pm (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S5: Course: Oblivion

I've been going through Voyager episodes, many of them for the first time for me, while checking these reviews. While I haven't read all of the comments on this review, I'm glad you made mention of how this is the one people most disagree with, because that's exactly what has prompted me to comment. It also looks like I'm not the first person motivated enough to defend this episode to post a first comment.

As you yourself said "Why should we care about them if no one—except possibly those destined to die—learns anything? More specifically, why should we care when the real Voyager crew, which comprises the real emotional core of the series—doesn't make the discovery?" It seems that you use that statement as a criticism, however when I hear those questions, it just makes me admire and appreciate the episode. If you don't view it that way, I'm not sure there's any way to make you see it differently. It just seems like one of those things where either you're intrigued or affected by the concept, or you have an instinctive revulsion, an automatic need to deny it. You certainly don't have to like it, but there are definitely going to be a bunch of people, myself included, who do. I was quite impressed that the doomed crew didn't get to leave a record, or contact the real ship; that is what took the story from good to great.

You said a few times that this is one of the most cynical episodes of Star Trek you've ever seen, so maybe it's the cynical people who can really appreciate it. You mentioned that the episode treats the characters with contempt, that it operates unfairly. Again, while this might sound like legitimate criticism to you, these sound like great points in its favor to me.

I'm not going to insist you got the 'wrong' answer with the rating you chose to give it. I'm sure you honestly didn't enjoy it, but I just wanted to add my voice to some of the others here, stating that there is definitely going to be a significant number of fans who will enjoy this episode. I personally can't stand lobster, but I wouldn't try to make the claim that lobster is an objectively bad food.

Oh, and as far as plot holes relating to science go, I've seen a lot of Star Trek episodes over the years, however I don't think I've ever seen even one single episode that was what I would call 'believable'. It's always seemed rather arbitrary to me what technologies and plot devices people will categorize as 'reasonable' and 'unreasonable' and in fact, I think people tend to decide stories they dislike for whatever reason are scientifically implausible, rather than the other way around. You're either willing to suspend disbelief, or you aren't, but that really has more to do with the audience than the story.

However, I still really did hate 'Threshold'.
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