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MossBoss
Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 9:41pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

Season 3 finale thoughts: I'll start with the good.

1. Owosekun had something useful to do. I like her. And see? I remember her name because they actually spent a bit of time on the bridge crew this season.

2. The show looks pretty good. Great visuals.

3. Hmmm… I’ll get back to you on number two because I really can’t think of anything else at the moment. Looks like Aurellio might be sticking around so that’s cool, I guess.

Now for the crap:

1. Aurellio sticking around. How did the computer know not to beam Aurellio off the ship when Burnham commanded it to beam off all the Emerald Chain?

2. The show doesn’t actually look all that good. There must have been a dozen ships chasing the Discovery and we didn’t get a good look at one of them. The Viridian and Booker’s ship are the only other ships we’ve really seen this season. Also I wanted to scream with how frequently a camera shot began upside down and then turned upright in this episode. It was at least four times.

3. The “fleet” from Ni’Var. Of course this was to be expected to an extent. Why did they waste time showing us Michael sending a message to her mom if that didn’t somehow lead to Ni’Var helping out. But the problem is we don’t actually get to see the fleet, and they aren’t actually all that helpful or necessary. This is not even bringing up how it shouldn’t be realistically possible for Ni’Var to receive that message and then arrive at Federation HQ so quickly. Unless Ni’Var was just a star system away this whole time? Also, why do they care? The Qomat Milat may be inclined to help a lost cause, but not all of Ni’Var.

4. The fights just aren’t interesting. I can’t see what the heck is going on. Whatever happened to firing on their weapons systems? Or disabling their engines? That should have been what Starfleet did as soon as the Discovery entered their space. But no! The Discovery survived ALL the ships firing on it and escaped the bubble unscathed!

5. I’ve been watching Buffy/Angel for the first time this past year and, despite those shows being cheesy and cheap, they have some really entertaining fighting sequences. I found all of the action on the ship very boring. And that leads to the issue of the turbolift scene.

6. What the heck is all that? I think everyone agrees that the way they depict the workings of the turbolifts make no sense. It’s like a vast underground city in there. Also, why are all the other turbolifts moving around? Who is using them? The ship is practically empty aside from the bridge crew and the regulators. That sequence was profoundly stupid.

7. Admiral Vance has been mostly enjoyable this season but every episode with him seems to invent new ways in which Michael Burnham sways his mind. This time Michael’s plea was just dumb. “Trust me!” followed by crying. Her emotions are her argument and this is supposed to be someone who graduated from the Vulcan science academy. Then at the end, Vance just says “Never mind that you’re an insubordinate mutineer. Please be the captain! You’re the best!”

8. Michael Burnham is the captain now. What was the point of Saru’s arc throughout this season? I haven’t heard a single person say they want Burnham over Saru as the captain.

9. This episode somehow made all the episodes that came before it worse.

10. There’s much more: So there wasn’t a mole feeding the Chain information? They just found out everything somehow? All the bridge crew is human now? The cause of the Burn is still trash. Better possible explanations already exist within Trek canon. What is the point of Grey? That story leads nowhere. Osyraa was just a comic book villain after all! Her story also leads nowhere. The ending wraps up too suddenly. I got worried when it was past the 50 minute mark and nothing had been resolved.

11. The Roddenberry quote and TOS music at the end is just pouring salt in the wound.
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MossBoss
Tue, Dec 22, 2020, 12:06am (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S3: The Way to Eden

Haha, wow I spit out laughing when Spock sat down to jam with that blonde hippie. Did they realize they were creating a classic meme when they filmed that?

Anyway, there are interesting ideas with some flaws, as many here agree. Not the worst episode by a long shot.
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MossBoss
Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 2:14am (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 12: The Siege

Hmmm, I was under the impression this all took place during the same day. So after the Mandalorian jet packed up out of the base there was maybe 5 minutes remaining on the clock? Then how did he jet pack all the way back to town, pick up the kid, and get in his ship (that was completely trashed but got fixed up good as new in a few hours), and then swoop in to save the day so quickly? That had me scratching my head at an otherwise enjoyable episode.
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MossBoss
Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 2:03am (UTC -6)
Re: MAND S2: Chapter 9: The Marshal

It was a pleasant surprise to see Timothy Olyphant playing Cobb Vanth in this episode after having just seen him play Deafy in Fargo a few days earlier. Went from eating carrots and quoting the bible to looking really silly and undersized in Boba's armor. Then we see Teumera at the end and Boba Fett looks absolutely huge now! I'm really glad they kept the Jango Fett actor from the prequels. While I was a little hesitant at the beginning of this one seeing that they're going back to Tattoine (the most imporant unimportant planet in all of Star Wars) this episode turned into my favorite of the series so far!
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MossBoss
Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 12:31am (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S2: The Immunity Syndrome

I'll give this episode a middling score. It had some nice moments that differentiated it from similar episodes, like the Doomsday Machine. But it was also, as someone mentioned above, fairly boring at the beginning as it took a while to get into.

Plus two stars for the two times Kirk says "lovely... planet." And minus two stars for the two times McCoy smiles with his teeth visible.
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MossBoss
Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 4:45am (UTC -6)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

@CaptainMercer
Robert Meyer Burnett summed up his dislike for the show as simply coming from the fact that he takes Trek very seriously. I think what he really means is he takes it too seriously. He takes it so seriously that there really isn't room for an animated comedy in his conception of what Star Trek is. So when an entire ship is destroyed and everyone dies, even if it IS mourned and taken seriously in the show, it's still a comedy show and that drama is surrounded by too many jokes. It's OK when a ship is destroyed in TNG because, while similarly taking the time to grief over the tragedy, that drama isn't sandwiched with jokes. The jokes are heavily outnumbered by the moments of drama and the day-to-day. If you take it very seriously then it's easy to get hung up on details like that and not enjoy the ride for what it is.

Or pehaps it's just the brand of comedy that doesn't sit well. I agree that the style and humor, of which some is admittedly cringy, do have a very current-era feel to them that probably won't stand the test of time. Not a lot of comedies age all that well. While I also love the Orville, I wonder if that show would receive the same kind of criticism from detractors if it was labeled Star Trek: Orville, even if the jokes are cleverer and it has a more even comedy-drama ratio.

I take Star Trek seriously as well, that's why I don't put up with the lazy writing in Star Trek Picard. Picard also showed me Icheb getting his eye ripped out. That's infinitely more offensive to me than a ship blowing up in a cartoon comedy or the overuse of contemporary vernacular both in Picard and LDS.
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MossBoss
Sat, Oct 10, 2020, 3:00am (UTC -6)
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks

Hey folks, long time lurker, first time poster here. I notice a lot of non-regular posters tend to only jump in to make a snide remark or powerfully opinionated statement and then just vanish back into the ether never to be heard from again. So I'm going to avoid being that and aim to approach from a position of mutual respect and fandom camaraderie. While I generally feel much of what needs to be said has been said (in ways much more eloquent than I can manage) about the vast catalog of Star Trek episodes, I hope be able to participate more in the conversations for the new shows from here on out.

@CaptainMercer
Secret Hideout is working on seven some Star Trek shows. While it can be debated if it's actually good for the franchise to have so many shows going on at once, even Kurtzman acknowledges that each show will have to be doing Trek in a very different way. I agree that the first new Star Trek show from them should have been challenging the old Star Trek, and they would probably claim that's what they did, even when very few people liked it. But with seven shows, do they really ALL need to be challenging the other older shows? Or perhaps by being new they inherently challenge all that came before? I'm beginning not to understand what challenging even means here.

I started off as very critical of LDS. The trailer made it look horrendous. The first couple episodes seemed to confirm my fears, but it was Star Trek so I had to keep watching. And by episode four I was won over. Season one of Lower Decks turned into a decent show. If the comedy doesn't land with some people or they don't care for animation, that's fine: they can watch a different show. LDS is not what Star Trek has become. It is one offering among a slew of offerings that are purposely crafted to be different from one another and not appeal to the entire audience.

I think we need to remind ourselves that LDS is NOT the new direction of Star Trek. It is an animated comedy spin-off show made by people who clearly care about Trek and seemingly (read thankfully) has very little involvement from Kurtzman. It's the first thing from Secret Hideout I actually like and I am happy about that. Let's hope their future offerings are similarly decent.
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