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Jeff C
Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 11:17pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2

Style over substance, for the large part. That's about how I would characterize this series.

Plenty of loose holes, which will likely never get tied up. Then again, it's all fantasy. Not really even science fiction, or clever mystery case. Just fantasy.

That said, there was a bit more emotional resonance to the story than I thought there would be, and this troupe of actors has come together in a sense as a more or less coherent team.

I do like the tenacity of Picard's convictions, as he stuck up for the synths all the way to the end, acknowledging their right to exist as sentient, free beings. After the synths began their own revolt and put Picard under house arrest, and then began their own plans to wipe out all organic life in the galaxy (?) by opening a portal to the "uber-synths," one would think that Picard's resolve would have vanished, that his convictions would have melted. Instead, he saw the hope in the situation. I think that's very appropriate for his character, and for the franchise as a whole.
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Jeff C
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 9:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Broken Pieces

I'm seeing a lot of posts lately asking Jammer to up his game regarding the structure of this forum/BBS/discussion-based website.

I'm in full agreement.

I know it sucks to redo things that have been in place for years, maybe over a decade. That said, there are plenty of out-of-the-box forum-based Web platforms that would serve the readers and users a lot better than this, and it would also make the place a bit more civil and organized to use.

@Jammer,
can you possibly find a way to export all of the previous discussion data and migrate to a more modern, cleaner Web app? Would you be open to other users helping you with this, who might be interested in donating their time and/or efforts to making this happen? There are probably quite a few visitors and regular posters here who would want to help.

We've already got a mess of discussions happening here. So much content to read and such a massive amount of opinions—it's getting overwhelming. The point is to make use of all this legacy content, all of the valued (and maybe not-so-valued, but still invited) comments made by so many users over the years, and migrate it into a format that Jammer can more easily manage and actually do something with.

Personally, I'm not against seeing a few targeted and appropriate ads here and there, if they help to monetize a decent site. This site is really getting to be a bear to use, with absolutely zero thread organization, no personal posting control, and no means to moderate or delegate moderation to co-moderators who would be able to take the load off of Jammer's back.

Just sayin'.
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Jeff C
Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:15am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Nepenthe

More than anything, I really appreciate the gentle moments of this episode. We can nitpick until the sun goes down about how some of the details seem odd or forced (namely, Soji's Data-like tilting of the head), but I think this episode was definitely worth the price of admission for me. It felt like being at home with a family, a very human experience.

That, and Riker's commanding, booming "Shields up!" to bring up the shields on his own home makes it the first episode of the series I don't mind seeing twice ;-)
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Jeff C
Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 12:11am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

The pacing and character work in this episode felt so much better than "Stardust City Rag." None of the performances felt overblown, and it felt like things were actually being done to serve the larger story, rather than to offer the viewer cheap but easily forgotten thrills.
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Jeff C
Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 6:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

Just out of curiosity:

Why are we watching this show/series, anyway?

A lot of us—myself included—come into these things with certain expectations, and then feel gutted when those expectations are not fully met.

I’d have to admit that I was expecting the usually stellar (pun intended) level of production that Star Trek offers. ST: Picard does deliver on that front. However, I was also expecting a moving, emotional, dramatic and gradually building story that showcases JL Picard as the historic sci-fi character that he is. So far, I haven’t really gotten that, so of course I have felt disappointed.

I was also musing on how each series reflects how we (as in humanity) are, in each age that the series was created. This series does seem to reflect our age in some sense, the glitz, the flash, the attraction to shiny and disposable things, the virtual realities we built for ourselves to hide within (such as Picard’s manor, recreated on the holodeck), the feeling of lost hope and disillusionment, the disasters that destroy worlds (or large groups of people, as in our time), the cynicism. I think that’s why we don’t feel that sense of hope yet from this series. It is just doing its job of reflecting the times.
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Jeff C
Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 10:17pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

Shock value over story-telling substance.

Gore and guts for the sake of getting cheap thrills out of the audience.

Glitz and flashy sci-fi frill over stories that have any real relevance or emotional resonance.

Bringing back the old characters just to play a bit part that entices us to watch, and then gunning them right down again.

Your characters aren't interesting enough? Turn them into traitors, just at the opportune moment, and then have them mercilessly slaughter the characters you just thought you got invested in, all for the sake of driving a machination that ultimately feeds a self-fulfilling, non-tale of eternal discontent and emptiness.

This about sums up Star Trek: Picard so far.

It's amazing how an actor as accomplished as Patrick Stewart agreed to take part in such a brash display of modern TV audience pacification.
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Jeff Chapman
Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 7:50pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Remembrance

It's nice that there are writing and production teams that are still trying to hold the flag of Star Trek high. It's a worthy franchise.

I'm sure it's also quite lucrative for them as well. They deserve to make a living for their work.

That said, with both ST: Discovery or ST: Picard, I find none of the story lines so far to be memorable. The visuals are terrific, but the story line is seriously wanting.

The obvious emphasis in both ST:PIC and in ST:DISC is on serial story arcs, and even those arcs are now generally so absurd that they fail to evoke an emotional reaction. Week after week, the absurdity builds, and we keep hoping for substance over style. Eventually, the writers face a big blow-out at the end (as they did in the first and second seasons of DISC), but they fail to make us care.

After all, it's not us up on that screen... and that is the problem. We don't feel we are there. We are simply being entertained, and it has no relevance to us after it's all over.

It's not working.

I continue to watch ST:PIC and Discovery mainly out of the hope that the writers will actually do something to redeem the story and make the best use of the characters. At this juncture, I'm beginning to feel that my lunch breaks would be better spent on reading an actual story that means something.

I feel that with the ST franchise now, there is a constant battle being waged between "jerking the viewers off" with a temporary thrill via the presentation of astonishing and expensive special effects (eye candy), versus actually telling a gripping and believable story that we can relate to and want to see again. The best film and TV work should do both.

I've wanted to watch quite a few episodes of ST:TNG, DS9, VOY and even ENT over and over again, because much of that work represented a real effort to write good stories. So far, I haven't even felt the need to go back and rewatch a single DISC or PIC episode. Quite frankly, my feeling is that there isn't much rewatching value there so far. The wrriters aren't telling stories that make me feel anything at all.

Big, bold themes are wonderful and welcome in works of science fiction and all visual, musical and literary art. The problem that I see now with ST:PIC is that the viewer is dragged along with each episode, without getting a payoff in terms of seeing the characters at their best, in a storyline that actually challenges the characters and poses interesting moral, ethical and intellectual questions for the viewer. The stories of both PIC and DISC seem to just endlessly plod on forward, never showing any sense of growth, resolution or progress in terms of character development. The villians are detestable, the heroes are predictable, and we never really know why, what really motivates them, and how it relates to us.

It's just a show and I mean that in every sense of the word. A "show," meaning a fanciful display. Peacocks strutting their feathers. Same-old stories told with fresh new packaging and dollops of babble. The strict adherence to the serialized format makes the whole thing more detestable.

In the end, I want to be entertained, but I also appreciate seeing some humanity in the whole thing. The second episode of ST:PIC contained a huge proportion of glib technobabble and forced political intrigue that became painfully dull to watch, at least for me. Cool little effects like the transporter doors or the virtual "knobs" on the wall panel displays at Utopia Planitia are briefly entertaining, but they do not hold the story. None of the characters are being used to best effect so far, and too many tired sci-fi cliches are becoming tedious as well. Patrick Stewart is doing his best with his role, but the fact is that the whole balance between effective story-telling and giving the watchers a thrill is terribly off.

In short, I think the writers have a story and plot that stretches too little content, too far. The special effects, post-coitus scenes with hot young actors/actresses, dramatic murders and occasional foul language are then used to fill in the gaps of the lack of substance.

Let's hope for better. I'm beginning to think that this franchise is not capable of it anymore.
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Jeff Chapman
Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 7:49pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Remembrance

It's nice that there are writing and production teams that are still trying to hold the flag of Star Trek high. It's a worthy franchise.

I'm sure it's also quite lucrative for them as well. They deserve to make a living for their work.

That said, with both ST: Discovery or ST: Picard, I find none of the story lines so far to be memorable. The visuals are terrific, but the story line is seriously wanting.

The obvious emphasis in both ST:PIC and in ST:DISC is on serial story arcs, and even those arcs are now generally so absurd that they fail to evoke an emotional reaction. Week after week, the absurdity builds, and we keep hoping for substance over style. Eventually, the writers face a big blow-out at the end (as they did in the first and second seasons of DISC), but they fail to make us care.

After all, it's not us up on that screen... and that is the problem. We don't feel we are there. We are simply being entertained, and it has no relevance to us after it's all over.

It's not working.

I continue to watch ST:PIC and Discovery mainly out of the hope that the writers will actually do something to redeem the story and make the best use of the characters. At this juncture, I'm beginning to feel that my lunch breaks would be better spent on reading an actual story that means something.

I feel that with the ST franchise now, there is a constant battle being waged between "jerking the viewers off" with a temporary thrill via the presentation of astonishing and expensive special effects (eye candy), versus actually telling a gripping and believable story that we can relate to and want to see again. The best film and TV work should do both.

I've wanted to watch quite a few episodes of ST:TNG, DS9, VOY and even ENT over and over again, because much of that work represented a real effort to write good stories. So far, I haven't even felt the need to go back and rewatch a single DISC or PIC episode. Quite frankly, my feeling is that there isn't much rewatching value there so far. The wrriters aren't telling stories that make me feel anything at all.

Big, bold themes are wonderful and welcome in works of science fiction and all visual, musical and literary art. The problem that I see now with ST:PIC is that the viewer is dragged along with each episode, without getting a payoff in terms of seeing the characters at their best, in a storyline that actually challenges the characters and poses interesting moral, ethical and intellectual questions for the viewer. The stories of both PIC and DISC seem to just endlessly plod on forward, never showing any sense of growth, resolution or progress in terms of character development. The villians are detestable, the heroes are predictable, and we never really know why, what really motivates them, and how it relates to us.

It's just a show and I mean that in every sense of the word. A "show," meaning a fanciful display. Peacocks strutting their feathers. Same-old stories told with fresh new packaging and dollops of babble. The strict adherence to the serialized format makes the whole thing more detestable.

In the end, I want to be entertained, but I also appreciate seeing some humanity in the whole thing. The second episode of ST:PIC contained a huge proportion of glib technobabble and forced political intrigue that became painfully dull to watch, at least for me. Cool little effects like the transporter doors or the virtual "knobs" on the wall panel displays at Utopia Planitia are briefly entertaining, but they do not hold the story. None of the characters are being used to best effect so far, and too many tired sci-fi cliches are becoming tedious as well. Patrick Stewart is doing his best with his role, but the fact is that the whole balance between effective story-telling and giving the watchers a thrill is terribly off.

In short, I think the writers have a story and plot that stretches too little content, too far. The special effects, post-coitus scenes with hot young actors/actresses, dramatic murders and occasional foul language are then used to fill in the gaps of the lack of substance.

Let's hope for better. I'm beginning to think that this franchise is not capable of it anymore.
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