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Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks
Im gonna wade back in to this hellhole to mention I wish Jammer would just post separate episode threads. No need to review or anything but it would be nice to have a place to discuss the new episodes individually.
Im gonna wade back in to this hellhole to mention I wish Jammer would just post separate episode threads. No need to review or anything but it would be nice to have a place to discuss the new episodes individually.
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks
"I liked the second episode a lot more than the first, which seemed a little mean-spirited to me. But in “Envoys”, the characters are much more likeable; but in the second, really no one behaved dickish (except Boimler at the end, which was probably Mariners plan all along). I saw the twist coming and really liked it — in this single scene, Mariner has shown more loyalty and compassion (at the cost of looking not cool) than another lead of 3ʳᵈ generation Trek in two seasons. She grows on me."
Mariner swallowing her pride to help Boimler grow his confidence a bit is probably the most adult thing she's done so far. I don't mean that negatively, more in that she's tries to come off as such a badass that her actually trying to help out and mentor a colleague instead of blast him when it could serve her really speaks numbers.
Good episode, enjoyed it a lot.
Also, I wonder if Jammer would ever be so inclined to post episode threads, just for discussion's sake. He doesn't need to review it but it does get kind of annoying to scroll down the the bottom of an extremely long page to see what people thought of the new episode.
"I liked the second episode a lot more than the first, which seemed a little mean-spirited to me. But in “Envoys”, the characters are much more likeable; but in the second, really no one behaved dickish (except Boimler at the end, which was probably Mariners plan all along). I saw the twist coming and really liked it — in this single scene, Mariner has shown more loyalty and compassion (at the cost of looking not cool) than another lead of 3ʳᵈ generation Trek in two seasons. She grows on me."
Mariner swallowing her pride to help Boimler grow his confidence a bit is probably the most adult thing she's done so far. I don't mean that negatively, more in that she's tries to come off as such a badass that her actually trying to help out and mentor a colleague instead of blast him when it could serve her really speaks numbers.
Good episode, enjoyed it a lot.
Also, I wonder if Jammer would ever be so inclined to post episode threads, just for discussion's sake. He doesn't need to review it but it does get kind of annoying to scroll down the the bottom of an extremely long page to see what people thought of the new episode.
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks
@The Chronek
I was seeing a lot of accusations of that upthread thrown at people, that accounts they didnt recognize liked the episode were possibly/probably outside actors
I think people need to realize this is a, uh, fairly niche corner of the internet and odds of a CO-ORDINATED MARKETING ATTACK (tm) seem kinda low.
The real reason for the new faces might be, i dunno, a new Star Trek series and people looking for a place to discuss it.
CBS spending money trying to co-opt this board would be a waste of time anyways. They should know better than to think they can sway any of you curmudgeons ;p
@The Chronek
I was seeing a lot of accusations of that upthread thrown at people, that accounts they didnt recognize liked the episode were possibly/probably outside actors
I think people need to realize this is a, uh, fairly niche corner of the internet and odds of a CO-ORDINATED MARKETING ATTACK (tm) seem kinda low.
The real reason for the new faces might be, i dunno, a new Star Trek series and people looking for a place to discuss it.
CBS spending money trying to co-opt this board would be a waste of time anyways. They should know better than to think they can sway any of you curmudgeons ;p
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks
Frankly as far as ST pilots go its probably top 30% imo
Under "The Emissary" and "Where No Man..."
I'd put it over Caretaker, Farpoint, The Cage, and probably Broken Bow
And if nothing else it was easily the most endearing of the bunch. I think I'm sold on modern cartoon ST, even if I'm in the minority. Very excited and I wish I could just binge the series now.
Frankly as far as ST pilots go its probably top 30% imo
Under "The Emissary" and "Where No Man..."
I'd put it over Caretaker, Farpoint, The Cage, and probably Broken Bow
And if nothing else it was easily the most endearing of the bunch. I think I'm sold on modern cartoon ST, even if I'm in the minority. Very excited and I wish I could just binge the series now.
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks
I think some of you guys will have to come to terms that not everything is made for you. Judging this show by TNG standards doesn't make sense for a animated comedy spin-off targeted at teens and twenty-somethings.
The actual anger in here at a literal cartoon is just staggering to me. A lot of you really need to take a walk and decompress. If you don't like it, just accept it and move on as Jammer has done preemptively. The people that hate-watch these shows just to spew vitriol are letting the writers live in their heads rent-free.
I think some of you guys will have to come to terms that not everything is made for you. Judging this show by TNG standards doesn't make sense for a animated comedy spin-off targeted at teens and twenty-somethings.
The actual anger in here at a literal cartoon is just staggering to me. A lot of you really need to take a walk and decompress. If you don't like it, just accept it and move on as Jammer has done preemptively. The people that hate-watch these shows just to spew vitriol are letting the writers live in their heads rent-free.
Re: Star Trek: Lower Decks
I think some people here are a little too invested in the "sanctity" of Star Trek. I think that's a fine standard to hold for the mainline series and there is definitely a standard of storytelling and ambition that needs to be maintain... But this is a cartoon comedy spinoff!
It may not be for you, hell it might not even be very good, but the people in here saying the producers have "crossed the line" like they've literally spat in their faces... might just have to get over themselves a bit.
I think some people here are a little too invested in the "sanctity" of Star Trek. I think that's a fine standard to hold for the mainline series and there is definitely a standard of storytelling and ambition that needs to be maintain... But this is a cartoon comedy spinoff!
It may not be for you, hell it might not even be very good, but the people in here saying the producers have "crossed the line" like they've literally spat in their faces... might just have to get over themselves a bit.
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