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grumpy_otter
Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 6:56pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: The 37's

I just realized something! The inhabitants of the planet named themselves after earth cities, Evansville and Berlin! Right?

I wish we'd met a third inhabitant so I could test my theory, but that's my guess.

I like this one. I agree with Jammer that it was a mistake not to let us see these cities, but sometimes leaving things to the imagination is okay. I loved meeting Earhart, and Sharon Lawrence was wonderful in the role.

The only thing that annoyed me was, as others have noted, the truck in the beginning. No way anything organic would still be left after 400 years in space.

But I can just skip that part and enjoy the rest--especially the ending. I honestly thought that 1 or 2 would choose to stay on the planet.
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grumpy_otter
Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 7:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Past Tense, Part II

I enjoyed it, but it was chilling. We ARE locking up innocent people in concentration camps, and there are far too many people who will defend that action. I can't write any more or I will get angry.
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grumpy_otter
Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 5:08pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Fascination

Well, it was no Naked Now/Time, but I thought it was fun, mostly.

I enjoy episodes when we just get to see characters doing their thing without some great tragedy on the horizon, and I actually thought the way they explained the virus was pretty cool. I had assumed it was just going to be some random disease--that it was coming from Lawaxana was fun. But as others have noted--they sure did mishandle Majel. She's shown she can be insightful and restrained--I wish we'd seen her like that more.

I also enjoy seeing various festivals from different cultures, so seeing that was nice, too.
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grumpy_otter
Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 3:34pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Defiant

I liked this very much, especially the politics. I really like Dukat's style, unlike some others, and think he adds to any episode he's in.

The one thing that kept bothering me--in "Second Chances," I could always tell Will from Thomas, but not in this one. He kept seeming like Will to me. I would have liked a bit more to establish that he actually was Thomas.

But overall a terrific outing!
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grumpy_otter
Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 2:03pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Meridian

I honestly hadn't thought this before, but the intro put the idea in my head--what WOULD it be like to make love to a shapeshifter? You're in position, things are progressing, and then he changes and . . . and . . . whoa!

Odo and Kira pretending to be lovers is the best part of this whole episode.

I'm getting shades of The Masterpiece Society--did no one else notice? A planet in peril with the love interest.

Brett Cullen, who played Deral, has been working steadily for 40 years. I often wonder about actors like that--who are considered absolutely dependable to fill a role but never achieve stardom. I hope he has a good life and is well compensated. He did a pretty good job in this episode, but playing against Dax it must have been hard. She just strikes me as so fake.

But their problem? Oh give me a break. Just beam them up if they don't want to shift again. There's only 30 of them.

Their romance is climbing a tree. Kill me now. But she slips, so no kiss? Who the hell ARE these writers?

Did they seriously throw down on the grass? Good lord.

Count each other's spots? I am seriously going to puke.

OMG--Deral and Dax's conflict is so manufactured. She just doesn't seem in love at all.

I don't believe at all that either is conflicted about staying for going. At least in "The Masterpiece Society," they made me believe there was some substance to their reasons.

Okay--saying "After 8 lifetimes as a humanoid, existing as pure consciousness might be interesting" is the first thing that rang true in this episode

But now she's leaving and Dax isn't going to say goodbye to Kira? Good lord.

Could this be more hokey? I'll guess she's over this "love" affair by the next episode.



And about the B-plot. Blech. Mr. Perv is yucky and now all I can think about is how you'd clean semen out of a holosuite.
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grumpy_otter
Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 8:13pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Civil Defense

I thought I was very clever in figuring out what was wrong (and right) with this episode, but reading the comments shows me that others know, too. Oh well--I'll tell it in my own way.

What the hell is wrong with the DS9 writers? If you are going to do a disaster story, follow the rules! Like TNG and Voyager did, you choose unlikely groupings to give previously lesser-acquainted characters a chance to get to know each other and figure out their strengths and weaknesses.

O'Brien has already done this once when he got to work with Troi and Ro--this time he gets Jake and Sisko? We've seen his before! Put him with Quark, or Garak, or Dax!

And Odo and Quark? Yawn. Put Quark with Dax and Odo with 20 terrified school children because Keiko is trapped in the bathroom.

They really dropped the ball overall. However, I laughed out loud when Dukat got stuck on the station with them. THAT is what a disaster show is supposed to be about! And he turns out to be funny, and the rest of the Ops segments were fun.

Sisko really sucks. "Stay here, son." "No Dad, I don't want to." "Okay."

Are there no parents on the writing staff? If you have to do something to save everyone's lives, you either want your kid with you for as long as possible, or you want your kid to stay away so you can focus on the task that MUST be accomplished. Pick one. Don't keep changing your mind.

This episode makes me sad because it could have been so much better--and so easily.

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grumpy_otter
Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:15pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: The Abandoned

I liked Odo's development here, especially his relationship with Kira, but what sunk this episode for me was two things. One part A is that the Jem'Hadar was so monotonously one-note that I felt Odo was being really really stupid. But that was reflective of his own character so it wasn't too bad. Part B of item one is that the actor playing the Jem'Hadar was not good. He looked like a little kid in makeup--and acted it.

And two, Sisko is just not getting better as an actor for me. His expressions are odd, his voice is bizarre, and despite what folks have told me about him getting better over time, I am just not seeing it. I can imagine Picard realistically accepting that his adolescent son was dating a grown woman--Sisko didn't convince me at all.

And seriously? That's a storyline? It seemed very forced and awkward and Jake had no chemistry with Marta. She did seem interesting though--I'd like to see her dating Bashir.
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grumpy_otter
Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 9:04pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Second Skin

Kira Cardassian is gorgeous! Love the look for her. But here's the thing--she's wearing makeup! Unless the eye and lip color of Cardassian women is meant to be natural, I can't imagine that Kira would willingly make herself up since she didn't believe she was actually Iliana. It would have been nice for once to see a woman who didn't paint her eyes up while on duty.

Overall I really enjoyed it while watching, and didn't think of the plot holes until it was over, but I don't see it as a classic. A medium solid effort.
I agree with Elliott--this could have been so much more, but I did think Visitor was wonderful and believable as her resolve was shaken. Her "Dad" was great too, and I loved their bonding. When he called her "Nerys" at their farewell, I got a wee tear in my eye.

A few random thoughts--Ari the Cardassian was totally hot--too bad he only lived for three minutes, lol.

Odo as a satchel was hilarious--I had to back that up and watch a few times.

And finally--Cardassian coffee tables are really stupid--put one thing slightly off to the side and it would fall down.
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grumpy_otter
Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:22pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S1: Time and Again

@Grumpy You asked "Someone remind me: did past Janeway survive after she thwarted the rescue attempt?"

My understanding, though it wasn't really explained, is that the timelines were integrated. We see past Janeway and Paris disappear in a sort of light show and the crew looking for them experienced the same--so I thought it was meant to indicate it had never happened at all, or been erased by Janeway's actions. None of them had any memory of the events we saw previously.

Like the damnable "Year of Hell," their experience had no impact on them.
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Grumpy
Sat, Sep 16, 2017, 10:30pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Rivals

When it first aired, this episode got a boost from the fact that some movie theaters were still playing The Nightmare Before Christmas, featuring Chris Sarandon as the speaking voice of Jack Skellington. At least, I thought that was cool at the time.
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grumpy_otter
Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 7:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Equilibrium

I liked this one right up to the ending, when Jadzia's problem was solved by getting shocked in the milky pool. Really? First, why did she have to hang out with unrelated symbionts to get to know her own? And second--that's all it took? I assumed there'd be a bit more exploration of coming to terms with an unsavory host from the past.

But still enjoyable--just wrapped up too neatly.
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grumpy_otter
Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 7:30pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: The House of Quark

This was lighthearted fun, but I dislike Quark so much it was hard to get through the whole thing. I'm glad I did so I could see the divorce, but it wasn't quite worth a whole episode of him. I will grant he was less annoying than usual, and his bravery was nice.
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grumpy_otter
Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 12:31pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Maquis, Part I

Thanks Methane--very cool info! I think it is cool to see that obviously they were working with a well-developed idea there--setting it up in one series, then actually introducing them in another.
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grumpy_otter
Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 12:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Collaborator

I think you are right, Paul M. I read up on Bajor a bit after this and learned that apparently the Cardassians scorched certain only regions of the planet--keeping a pristine capital would definitely go right along with Cardassian values. They remind me more and more of North Korea.
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grumpy_otter
Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 11:28am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: The Search, Part II

Unlike apparently everyone, I thought this was a better episode than Part One. From the moment Dax and O'Brien came back to the shuttlecraft, I KNEW something was very off. We had seen an unknown being observing them while they were trying to hack the Jem'Hadar computer, but then they suddenly appear on the shuttle just fine?

So during the entire episode, I had been primed to know something wasn't right, and everything else on the simulated DS 9 station supported my assumption that something was very off--I just wasn't sure what it was. At first I had thought Dax and O'Brien were actually Jem'Hadar in disguise, then Admiral Nechayev's reckless disregard of the Romulans made me think it might be a holographic simulation--so I wasn't at all surprised when it turned out to be a test by the founders. So does that mean I'm smarter than all y'all? lol

I am also very relieved that the Dominion turned out to be who they were. In the last episode, I was afraid they were just going to be some warlike conquerors and we were going to get a lot of stupid battles. The way it is presented, with the changelings becoming autocratic out of fear (and their associated desire for power) I think is very good and offers much more potentially-rewarding story lines than I had suspected might be coming.

I was very moved that Odo immediately turned his back on them even after having a union (is that their sex?) with the female changeling. Odo's world was really cool--I liked all the scenes there. His developing friendship with Kira is wonderful.

I'd give this one 3.5, part one a 3. I am not so scared of the Dominion now.

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grumpy_otter
Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 8:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: The Search, Part I

Things I liked:

The Jem'Hadar ships have purple lights

T'Rul -- so familiar, so familiar, I like this Romulan's no-nonsense style, so familiar--ach! Seska!

Quark was off the ship quickly

Sisko likes African art

The ending planet--aside from the "Welcome home," it also just looked cool


Things I didn't like:

Battle. Yawn. I don't object to the occasional fight, but I hate when it becomes the focus, and from talk I know the Dominion will become important, so I fear DS9 will start having lots of battles.

Dax's hair. Women who work in fast-paced serious jobs don't have elaborate hairstyles that take a long time to do. They wear no-fuss hair like Kira. Did the producers think Dax wasn't attractive enough? Blech. It's one of the reasons I never liked Beverly Crusher--hair that flopped all over, including into her patients' faces.

The random redshirt, who I hadn't even seen before he died during the battle. Where did he come from? This small ship had room for an extra?

Quark. Just really hate him.

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grumpy_otter
Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 7:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Jem'Hadar

I enjoyed that from beginning to end--aside from Quark's scenes. Man, I really can't get past my hatred of acquisitiveness.

I noted one thing that would support the idea that Eris had no actual powers and the force field (that supposedly would kill you) was really just a light show--THEY ALL SAT SO CLOSE TO IT! If I were being confined by a force field that would kill me, I'd sit in the middle. Wouldn't you?
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grumpy_otter
Mon, Aug 21, 2017, 7:52pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Tribunal

Amazing episode--really loved it. Best guest stars ever, and exciting story.

But I was saddened by so many analogies to modern earth courts in this. The entire setup was almost entirely like what one might see in North Korea at its most extreme, but there were many aspects that might be seen in more "democratic" courts.

I know of far too many poor people who were found guilty because they did not receive proper representation, and far too many innocent people whose investigators hid evidence that would have exonerated them because they needed a conviction for the "peace of mind" of their districts.

We pretend in the United States to have such an enlightened legal system, and yet rich people very rarely have to suffer a trial. And if they do, they tend to get off. And if they don't, they get to go to luxury prisons.

The Cardassian legal system with its show trials was a joke--well, so is ours.
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grumpy_otter
Mon, Aug 21, 2017, 6:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Collaborator

I loved this one--I thought the tone was perfect and of course Winn is delightfully wicked. I had two observations--one is that I would give it an even higher rating except for the stupid visions Bareil kept having. I found those totally boring and revealed nothing. I hate such hallucinations--can't think of one time Trek used that sort of thing without losing my interest.

The other is a question--the Cardassians have been off Bajor only about a year, right? Because wow did their city look incredibly pristine! I had assumed Bajor had been pretty well ravaged by the invaders--perhaps not.
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grumpy_otter
Sat, Aug 19, 2017, 8:45am (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Maquis, Part I

Oh, thanks Methane--I'd so associated Ro in my mind with the Maquis that I'd forgotten she didn't meet them until later in her time on the Enterprise.

So this IS the first time in Star Trek that we ever meet the Maquis?
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grumpy_otter
Sat, Aug 19, 2017, 8:41am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S1: Lonely Among Us

I HAVE FOUND IT! THE REASON DEANNA IS ON THE SHIP!

Y'all know how we often bemoan the fact that Troi really has no purpose? That most of the things she observes are things that are perfectly obvious to any half-awake person?

Well, I point you to this episode. Picard has beamed off the ship as an energy thingie, and Riker says he's lost and "We need to get to Parliament," then orders the ship to leave. He is eager to abandon the Captain in the energy cloud! But then Deanna senses the Captain and suggests they may be able to get him back!

Riker responds, "As WHAT? He's just energy now!" (I'm paraphrasing.)

So now we know why Riker stays as first officer all those years, and why Deanna has a purpose. Without her, Picard would have been a cloud critter for the rest of the series. And Riker never accepts a promotion because he is wracked with guilt over almost having condemned his captain to a permanent existence as a lightbulb.

That was fun. lol

@Percivale

"A self-respecting, standards-holding Federation wouldn't consider these aliens for admission in a million years."

I was thinking the same, but in relation to the "Justice" aliens and the "Code of Honor" ones. Why would the Federation ever consider intercourse with aliens who think it's fine to execute someone for a trivial offense, or aliens who think kidnapping is fine and dandy?

You know, I'm all for respecting the beliefs of others, but not when those beliefs are stupid.



@William B
"When Picard (improbably) is beamed back aboard the ship, he's lost his memory though"

The way they talk in the transporter room, I thought they rematerialized Picard from the pattern left on his first beam-out, so the Picard that rematerialized was simply a copy of the pre-energy Picard. We know they use a similar function of the transporter in later episodes and series, but maybe they hadn't quite figured out how to phrase it yet?

@Troy

"I did like the dog and snake aliens in this one."

Me too! They made me laugh! I wish we'd seen more of them. Especially the doggy-faces. Did anyone notice that the doggies were very similar to the castle guards from King's Quest VI? That came out in 1992, so maybe they copied Star Trek?
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grumpy_otter
Tue, Aug 15, 2017, 8:05pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: Crossover

I'm with Nathan B. -- this is fun, nothing more. It gives the actors a chance to do some hamming it up and that's about it. I didn't find it made me think at all--it was just a pretty-typical action story, albeit an enjoyable one.

Unlike others, I enjoyed Mirror Sisko and thought his acting was, for the most part, much better than his acting as Original Sisko. I believed in MS more than OS, anyway.

It sure didn't really seem like much of a Mirror universe though--most people were just slightly different from their counterparts and I totally didn't get Mirror Kira--very confusing portrayal.

Mirror Miles almost made me cry--he wasn't different from Original Miles at all--just ground down. Colm Meany is a real actor--I have loved him long in the Irish movies he did before DS 9. I'd venture to say he's the best actor on the whole show.

They missed a humor chance with the last scene--have the runabout dock and be met by the others--and then Kira and Bashir come out looking the way they did, the others look on in shock, then Bashir says, "I need a shower," and Kira says, "Me, too."

I think I'd rank this about a 2.5--I can imagine enjoying it again.
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grumpy_otter
Tue, Aug 15, 2017, 6:53pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Wire

Most excellent episode. I had been getting a bit tired of Garak prior to this with his little hints and murmurs, which i found tedious; this episode played it perfectly. He reveals a bit, then a bit that seems different, a bit more--and then it turns out to be all true. I immediately thought as Blake W. pointed out--that Garak had told the truth with every story and it showed his journey to exile.

I LOVED Tain--I thought Paul Dooley struck the perfect note. He is apparently quite the murderous villain (or maybe not--we aren't quite sure what the Obsidian Order did) but he is definitely one of those people who has information coming to him from everywhere. He was scary without being diabolical.

I absolutely LOVED that he didn't make Bashir beg for the cure--some sorts of villains would toy with him just for the fun of it--Tain isn't that type. Based on the credits we'll see Tain again--that makes me glad.

Stunning performances in a stunning episode.
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grumpy_otter
Mon, Aug 14, 2017, 7:05pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Gambit

Just watched this again--they really missed a good comedic moment after the resonator fails to destroy Worf. How hard must it have been for him to resist his warrior feelings? I thought a one-liner after that would have been nice. Just something like, "Well THAT was the most difficult fight of my life."
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grumpy_otter
Mon, Aug 14, 2017, 12:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S2: The Maquis, Part I

I enjoyed this two-parter, and didn't find Casey's performance lacking. I liked the character's serenity--he struck a good tone, I thought. He's a battle-weary fighter who can't muster much enthusiasm for anything. Didn't bother me and I enjoyed his scenes with Sisko except for the final (here's your uniform) one, which I thought was trite.

The one flaw in the plotting was that I knew right away he'd turn out to be Maquis, so that was some lessening of tension.

I was a bit confused about when the Maquis were introduced, though--this seems plotted to be the first time we meet them, but I checked the airdate and it looks like we'd already met Ensign Ro on TNG?



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