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Dragana
Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 9:28pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

@Trent
Woah!!
Good point!!
But wasn’t that an anomaly an effect of a signal? Anomaly itself could’ve been linked to any place in history, not necessarily to something few weeks in future.
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Dragana
Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 8:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

@Cody B
I think your comment is unnecessarily mean.
Although I agree that DSC got many flaws and is not the best it could be. It’s quite flashy, but without essence. It does have charisma though.
And it’s also tiring to convince people, that it’s not a problem of intellectual capability to understand DSC, but a problem of a not very good script. That would make a very weird exception, that this series is more complicated than every other show/book/film/art project.
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Dragana
Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 10:37am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2

@Alan Roi
„5. The door is called a BLAST door. What do you imagine a BLAST door is capable of stopping. A BLAST maybe? Pike also admires acts of self-sacrifice. We've seen him display this admiration all season”

If the door are able to withstand the BLAST (magically), why not cover all ship with it - this way whole starfleet could be indestructible!

It was better episode than the last one, sequence of Burnham travelling to past was visually interesting.
I liked Reno correcting herself with “sir!” (I wonder why she is so hated?)
Also Number One was cool.
Pike accepting not his fate, but himself, was also a good thing (shame that it was in such, um, stupid circumstances with blast door and torpedo..)
Bye Discovery!
Of course there were logic flaws and overall the whole story in this season wasn’t satisfying.

- I understood “Control being neutralised” as a temporary stop? As if Georgiou “stunned” Control for a few moments (hence all ships stopping) and not permanently destroyed it. That’s why they went to future anyways.

- If saying anything about Discovery and Burnham is a treaty (only to Starfleet? What about others?) then how they tell a story of Klingon war? And why Burnham didn’t use the suit to alter Klingon war, saving so many lives?

Someone here in comments section mentioned he is sick of “female characters solving everything”. I’m sick of almost every piece of literature and culture being dominated by cis males thinking they are the best ever. Thank you, next.
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Dragana
Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 8:34am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

Thank you Jammer for a great review!

@Alan Roi

„Many years ago a friend told me that Buffy the Vampire TV series was a lot cleverer than I thought it was, which I found very odd as well. And then she showed me a way of looking at it that had never occured to me. That kind of revelation changed how I watch everything because it showed me that I was missing much more than I thought I was. And I'm still learning. „

I agree that sometimes texts of culture have deeper meaning and hidden tropes. Although lots of it comes from interpretation. I personally don’t see in Disocvery masterful writing and puzzles. Even if they are, the show has more simpler flaws.
In the same time we can interpret story of second season as metaphor of machine learning and neural networks. Sphere data would be missing component needed for Control to upgrade itself in unpredictable way. Situation would be similar to what happend with AlphaGo and AlphaGoZero, the latter being an “alien” GO player, using weird non-human moves. In this way of thinking the Discovery crew should inspect the Spehere
data in the first place, as it has the key to understanding the whole commotion. But is it valid interpretation? Does it make Discovery a better show?
I don’t know.
Also, something that came up to
me recently. As we seen in Short Trek with Mudd, there is a possibility of creating android with DNA readings of a human, right? So it might be possible to create Burnham-copy who would lead the ship in her time suit. Yeah, yeah, not enough time..
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Dragana
Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 11:36am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@methane
You absolutely don’t have to read anything, although repeating the word was a wink towards Jammer’s CONTROL prank review. Also repeating a word is commonly used in a literarure, “a rose is a rose is a rose”.
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Dragana
Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 11:24am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

@The Gorn
Thanks!

@Maq
“In earlier Treks there was not so much of these kind of feelings involved. It is ok to include it , also the very large amount of femal charcter is ok. I actually prefer it. I do look forward to next episode.”

I agree that diverse cast is a great thing. From this point of view Star Trek was always good, makeing every series more inclusive. That is something that works in favour of the series. Showing strong female leads, different, not bound by their gender at all. It’s great that it’s above gender in some way. Showing Lorca as a broken man, entangled in ego and power - superb! In contrast Pike is this non-violent, sympathetic wise guy but with no power play.

Emotional scenes are not bad per se, just in my opinion they don’t work in this season and intensity. It would be stronger to have less emotional scenes (and in silence for example, like in “ All Quiet on the Western Front” from 1930, the silence was powering the tension).
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Dragana
Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 9:30am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

Pathos pathos pathos pathos.
I’m criticising this and last episodes, because I really liked the potential of Discovery, but I feel disappointed in what course the series took.
As the season 2 is coming to its great finale, I’m less and less hooked on this show.
First part was pretty okay, but the last four episodes were really messy. I don’t know what writers are thinking, but having a Very Emotional Scene (VES) in every episode isn’t working. Why having a long scene of Airiam’s funeral, when viewers are not attached emotionally to this bland character? It also felt kinda sad, because for a moment they wanted us to think that Nhan also died and no one cared. Same with this Pike’s pilot from the beginning of season. Just imagine, you take your two crew members to a mission, one dies and then you shrug it off because.. Because why? Because Burnham is so amazing?

I actually liked Burnham character from first season. She was more flawed and guilty of Klingon war. Just another person, trying to make up for her mistakes and growing as a person thanks to it. And right now? Her character was destroyed by all the coincidences and links. What is so amazing in her that everyone likes? I don’t see her as a person at all, just plot device and VES server.
That’s a bad writing. At least they should make other crew members more sceptical towards Burnham. For example, using Jett Reno as an observer on Discovery, commenting stupid course of action. “The Red Angel is Burnham’s Mom and Leland Knew Her Parents!” Jett Reno: “Are you guys serious? Are we in some sort of weird tv show?”

Saru is much better, he’s a self-made-man. No links, no famous parents, only his own decisions.
Another reason why VES are not working is because characters don’t really talk with each other. They exchange speeches instead of normal dialogues. So they seem flat, who talks like that in real life? The super quick friendships are making it unbelievable (like the one between Po and Tilly, c’mon! they spent like what, one day with each other and now Po decides to leave her whole planet? the hell?)
I think that sometimes illogical things in the script could happen if the writers want to tell amazing story and the narrative is so compelling and layered, that some minor mistakes are understandable or forgiven. But in this case - what story they are telling? I see no story, just pieces of it mixed together.
On the bright side:
I like Saru and his new confidence, Stamets and Culber dynamic, Georgiou being caring and her idea about destroying life (that was actually a nice dialogue, about bad ideas), Pike being down to earth and very likeable character, the alien who had a flu and their auto-antonym game from last episode.

Some thoughts about this episode:
Why they couldn’t just leave explosives near the engines of Discovery when self-destruct failed?
Why Burnham never told anyone about the vision?
Really hate lightflares.
Why Sarek and Amanda couldn’t use their subspace communication to tell Starfleet that Section 31 is compromised? If Section 31 knew Sarek is coming, they could’ve just destroyed their shuttle, if they didn’t how could they interfere in communication?
Ash should go somewhere far away and never come back.
Burnham should go to therapy, trauma level above normal.
Let’s start over in future and make Discovery a show that asks important questions instead of “we have to stop the world from being destroyed” show.
Whew.
Anyway, thanks for having this space to discuss it!
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