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Dougie
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 8:39pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Broken Pieces

@James White, pick up your google finger. I do it for a living. Collecting PII, and not flashing a banner, or allowing people to control their consent and opt out, is in violation of California policy. It’s a liability. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=ccpa
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Dougie
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:59am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Broken Pieces

@jammer
If you continue to make money on this site, then you have the responsibility to fix the site.

1. Fix the California consumer privacy act issue before someone clobbers you with $7500 requests to be forgotten you can’t fulfill
2. Fix the account system. If you want peoples “usernames” to be reserved, make them usernames. Your system doesn’t mean anything
3. Post the last few digits of the IP address with each post, if sock puppetry matters. I don’t think it does because I have legit suspicions
4. Allow people to stop bullying with an Ignore and Block feature

Oh, and

5. Add a End of Post feature, no one likes scrolling 300 messages or more and clicking on a message in the comment feed should take you to THAT message.

You make money here with your ads. Since this is a commercial operation, treat it as such. Stop making us fend for ourselves and take control of your retirement goo.
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Dougie
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 9:02am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Broken Pieces

During the right 20 year period more recently you could have missed CDs and DVDs entirely, having never known the format. Same for 8track and cassette. Yet those formats were tremendously important. Also, the TRS-80 came and went within 20 years, but made one of the largest impact on home computing ever. Radio Shack didn’t survive much longer.

Gee, I guess it’s a fictional universe, so Anything that’s necessary to get it to a certain story point has happened. It doesn’t follow our universe see, so stop forcing your silly head canon into it.
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Dougie
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:08am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Nepenthe

Dumbest review ever. I think he should just leave it as comments if all he’s going to do is skim comments here, extract nuggets, and cobble together some worthless summary like that. 0 of infinity stars for a soy review taking no time. He put more work into that worthless piece of a DST thing.
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Dougie
Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 6:08am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Nepenthe

What I really do not get, is characters here shitting on a show and it’s fans, who doesn’t watch the show. That’s just garbage. Why would people do that?
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Dougie
Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:59am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Nepenthe

@Gerontius, ALF was a TV show from the 80s that sucked donkey. Okay? Get your google out once in a while. Don’t be such a boomer constantly. I get stuck on initials but I use the damn internet to look them up. Because I’m on the Internet.
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Dougie
Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 7:27pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Nepenthe

Kind of hoping snoreville comes back so the ALF crowd has something to go cherish with long, drawn out missives about the crazy antics of Elevator Dude.

I’m having a hard time getting through this episode. I’m not sure what it is, but OH right, no sci fiction. If I wanted an episode of Riker’s Hope, I would have tuned in each day.
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Dougie
Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 4:44am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Nepenthe

I’m validated. We like an episode bloated with tng. That’s all this is, a need to go back. Anything not tng, kill it with fire.

The word nostalgia or variant nostalgic et al is mentioned 19 times in 68 comments.

Impossible Box. 1 time in 271 comments
Stardust City Rag. 21 times in 504 comments
Absolute Candor. 5 times, 296 comments
The End is the Beginning. 3 in 218
Maps and Legends. 6 in 229
Remembrance. 6 in 286

But here were no Rikers in any of those episodes were there? The closest to it was Stardust City Rag with Jeri Ryan. Ah science.
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Dougie
Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 4:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

@henson ridiculous. I have to tolerate 10 made up stories here about why Maybe There Aren’t Visual Detectors In Sickbay, completely made up bullshit by people here simply conjecturing while waving their arms and sipping their favorite bullshit Chablis. Yet if I offer a technically and historically and simplistically plausible reason Why there would be a visual record of what took place, “head cannon.” My response; screw that.

Good day.
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Dougie
Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 7:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

@Mike
@Robert does that make sense? You buy a car today and it’s loaded with sensors and contraptions, some of which constantly “phone home” with status updates. If you drive any type of automated vehicle like a Tesla it’s in constant communication. It even knows if you have your hands on the wheel. So I think, when buying a spaceship, the dealership installs features and options along side standard safety packages. Want galactic cruise control? Gotta have inter galaxy nav beacon receivers.

Want an EMH? Need holotransmitters. Oh wait. Holotransmitters. I guess those also have holoreceivers. That makes them transceivers, hmph. Two way holographic transmit-receiver systems in a medical bay. I wonder... would THOSE have a visual system. Lmao you guys crack me up go back to sleep
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Dougie
Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:28am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

@Dave,
Voyager is the epitome of Star Trek. And I have a special affinity for it as during that show we built a special ship named Voyager too. Long story.

I’d always ask how was Voyager not a trek to the stars? Cast across the galaxy to an unknown quadrant, and then meet and greet new species and explore a whole quadrant on their journey home. It was this type of adventure, more so than TNG’s “conference room” approach, that endeared me to that series. While I cycle TNG in my rotation, I watch Voyager constantly. I purchased Seasons 4&5 off iTunes should it ever disappear on streaming.

@Mertov I’d enjoy seeing one of those pamphlets. I bet someone saved one and there’s an image to be uploaded and shared!
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Dougie
Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:13am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

Isn’t there a single video camera in the medical bay? To hell with an EMH that could be corrupt or have no ethical subroutine.

CAMERAS. They’re everywhere today, and we are to believe they’re completely missing in the 24th century? That’s pretty amusing.
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Dougie
Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 5:26am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

Star Trek Generations is such rich storytelling.
I’ll maintain there’s a touch of delusion required to maintain some of the beliefs in the comments.

Episodic Star Trek from the 80s and 90s, and I’ll include everything from the pre 2000 era, is comic book level writing and execution. You can envision every scene drawn as a panel. I guess I get the fascination.
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Dougie
Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 1:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

@Quincy - good man. Don’t get drawn in. Andy’s Friend doesn’t watch it. Don’t engage that. That’s called “bait” in any galaxy. What horses hit
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Dougie
Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 4:18am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

It’s not “classic storytelling”
It’s rosy retrospection. The comments here are like the list of memory biases from a Wikipedia page. I think somehere suffer ptsd and want to go snuggle and hug the 80s and 90s again. They’re unhappy growing old and want to use Star Trek was a way to go back in time to a happy place. Maybe tune out and collapse into a big fluffy chair and just watch Meatballs. Yeah. That’s it. Are you ready for the summer?
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Dougie
Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 12:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: The Impossible Box

I see people talking about repressed memories who clearly have not had them resurface. Advice: keep quiet. Silence is golden. If you have not had a repressed memory trigger, you are in no position to comment. None.

A repressed memory can physically halt biological functions and cause a person to faint. Physical effects can wear off in minutes to hours as chemical surges dissipate, mental effects can take hours or days, weeks, months, years, forever.
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Dougie
Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:40am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

@Booming, we only see a very small, extremely vocal slice of the Star Trek comments. If cbs all access were supplying to just the group here they’re broke. But those here post within moments of a new episode. That behavior, regardless, is indicative.

I will disagree that America’s past is random and agendaless. We are not some big sop that just aimlessly plods, nation-building and policy actions have been planned for years. Along with that have been reactionary policies as well.
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Dougie
Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 12:21am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

@BrianL ds9 might not be Trek by that strict interpretation.

If Picard is referencing Shakespeare or Data is playing Mozart, or Crusher relies on CPR in a crush, how in the same god damn “head canon” thought can you come up with this zero thought: “So why would anybody assume that the way things were done in the 2010's would have any bearing on the 24th century? It makes absolutely no sense.” The way people think some times astounds me.
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Dougie
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 10:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

@Henson,
I’ll agree. At the time of TOS, and TNG to some degree, guys like Gates and Musk didn’t exist for the most part. But, guys like Carnegie and Ford did. Roddenberry knew of them and their vast contributions to society, good and bad.

I think it’s also as I’ve suggested a difference pre 9/11 and post 9/11. I see the shift tonally in a lot of movies. I happened to watch teen wolf because it was leaving tubi. God it’s awful. But look at what they were selling? MJ fox drinking and smoking pot, small town living where owning a hardware store on Main Street can employ 5 people and you own a home around the corner with 2 cars and everyone is white middle class. That movie is TNG era and it’s all the same feeling.
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Dougie
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

No one should watch anything that is hurting their senses or frustrating them, at least that’s what was demanded of me with Orville. Hypocrisy is when you tell someone else to do something, and then fail to heed your own advice. I won’t say anything again.

@Booming
Enron was a Fraud. Are you suggesting comparing a false valuation to a real one? Ashley Madison had a multi-billion pre-IPO valuation by it’s lead banks and almost went public, but it was a fraud, they don’t count, see. Sometimes, you just have to slow your roll. Like in your first answer above.

I said: America acts as both empire and hegemon, when it suits it.

You said: In it's history the USA had hegemonic and imperial phases.

I’m curious if you realize that you said what I said, but had to say it your way? What is that?


I watched 11 seasons of M A S H. Not all the episodes were good, seasons varied, characters came and went. Frank was funnier, I liked Henry more than Potter, but BJ was better than Trapper. Yet I watched because they were good actors and it was funny stuff.

Good actors in STP? So far yes for the main cast. Maybe the airlock for Agnes. But, that’s her act so perhaps she’s good.

Good story(equiv) in STP? So far I see the first reviews pop in within moments of release. Apparently people cannot wait for it.
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Dougie
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 11:17am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

@Booming, we measure in market cap.

It feels like a lot of it then is we are dropped in the middle of the Picard story, and we can’t fast forward, and can’t rewind, and can’t know everything yet like we could with all the other already completed series. It’s leading to endless hand wringing.

Stewart said it was a 10 hour movie. That’s a long one. But this is like standing in the popcorn line at the concession stand and listening to everyone in the audience bitch at every single detail during the first showing. What the hell is that? Just what is that?


Again, what should we call it?
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Dougie
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 9:46am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

I can appreciate we are having a great philosophy convo on this now, at least this is existential Star Trek discussion.

@Booming, I’ll somewhat accept your empire vs hegemon definitions. I’m no student of history, but I am a part of America’s last 50 years, so I’ll comment on that. I know history gets rewritten by first the victors, and then the revisionists. America acts as both empire and hegemon, when it suits it.

The Federation is benevolent? Or it wishes to present itself as benevolent, perhaps to improve advantage in negotiations of treaties. I think the latter. Prime Directive violations included.

Tesla is the largest car manufacturer in 4 months is absolutely true, they unseated Toyota Corp Within the last 30 trading days when their stock price shot up to ~$1000. We can debate it on any given stock market day, but a year ago, Tesla was at 56 billion market cap.

@Brian: Betelgeuse is acting strangely. What if an entire alien fleet shows up at earth in the next few years. “Our sun is dying and we need a place to stay. Your sun looks good.” Do we offer our planet for co habitation, or do we have it taken from us?


Might be fun to ask instead, what should the series be named if not Star Trek:Picard?
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Dougie
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 7:35am (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

@Henson
A characteristic of a hegemon is to have a charter or rule, and break it whenever they choose, almost criminally. The Prime Directive certainly qualifies. Janeway alone had so many violations, characters came from other time periods to eradicate her. (Braxton) do you recall a Starfleet held trial of anyone, for breaking the Prime Directive? I recall Picard broke it at least a half dozen times and simply has to document it. Some Prime Directive. Seems like it’s just a nuisance like “don’t turn rear blinky navigational light on when passing moon #7 in the Thorlak System”

If you don’t know what the white man’s power structure is, ie systemic institutionalized racism, we can’t have much of a talk, because, it’s been around for millennia already, and won’t easily be dismissed going forward. It exists as a power locus today in the US. It occupies the Whitehouse today. I won’t belabor this until you budge.

The Federation grew out of earth and earth is us. Earth today has the United States, and unless we are saying that the Star Trek universe comes from a different galaxy and different time (Star wars whatever), then the pre federation includes earth’s capitalist era. During that era, billionaires do exist and yes, we have guys like Gates and Musk, who ASSIST the country, and also reap massive personal gains. Are we to suggest that in 2405, they don’t teach any earth history from 2020, and don’t teach about Tesla becoming the largest car manufacturer in 4 months via a massive market push and making electric cars and shifting the entire auto market? Or the Bill and Melinda Foundation providing malaria shots to the entire 3rd world, when this is something Government should be doing? In other words, treating the Star Trek universe as though pre history doesn’t exist, and the mark individual contributors make on our lives, is daft. This is why 80s and 90s Trek is shallow drek of the worst kind. It’s absolute unthinking simpleton buck Rogers comic book stuff. Duhhhhhh Engage (point white finger at robot or boy)

The Federation is how old? You consider it a success? It looks to me like it won’t last much longer than any other society and is falling to the same trappings as any other political organization. Promise big and marginalize at the border.
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Dougie
Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 10:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

I believe one of the other commenters here mentioned problems with availability of industrial replicators as an actual issue at some point, but that is a detail maybe from a book?

The Federation took on a role of evacuating the Romulans, but did not put all and everything in to it, and failed. And, it appears even worse, they didn’t even really try did they? They were disingenuous to the top. The Federation has a lot of problems with its power structure and I would say it has not reorganized. At least safely, would you? Do you trust this Federation?

Was it’s 80s and 90s power structure hegemonic? Yes, it was reflective of American imperialism of the time, a direct mirror of Reagan/Bush Assininism. Top down trickle down white man power structures with token female, black, and “aliens” to represent foreigners, sometimes even in positions of power, but never equal or dominant in number, and always in proper proportion to our main cast.

The comment on trillionaires highlights a point about capitalist societies having alternatives to government providing all resources. Don’t kid yourself. A guy like Musk, in the 24th century, would shit on Picard and make him a fool for what he could pull off. I don’t like Musk, but I respect his actual organizing capability when he’s not hiding under a conference room table.
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Dougie
Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 7:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

@Henson I’m not familiar with the term but,

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dominion_War
Validates most of it. I was not a viewer of Ds9, so most of my post Voyager Starfleet history comes from sites like memory alpha and discussion here.
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