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Daya
Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 6:23am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: These Are the Voyages...

To add to Chris Nash; the crew seems to adjust too fast to Trip's demise. He is Archer's life long best friend, and T'Pol's ex. The next scenes cannot be as matter of fact as they are. The only way around this problem is to assume that the holodeck is bad at human emotions; or the holonovel programmer is not a terrible author. But if the holonovel is not accurate, all we can conclude from this episode is "they entered posterity": something we can feel good about, but in a distant sort of way.

The series was great, though. I loved all 4 seasons.
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Daya
Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 5:23pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: These Are the Voyages...

The way the final scene was edited has always meant to me that the "Space! The final frontier ..." monologue is actually the beginning of Archer's speech. Did NO ONE else think that?
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Daya
Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 3:00pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II

Mirror Archer is just regular Archer from about a season back. Nice.
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Daya
Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 11:03am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Divergence

I think the original idea was to get Trip and T'Pol to use their subspace-imzadi connection demonstrated in the previous episode (the white room that they daydreamed together) to get Trip to save enterprise through T'Pol. The moment I saw a daydream start with one person and end with another, I wondered -- great plot device, what use will they put this to? I guess the rappling across a moving warp bubble was cool too, but then the telepathy capability is wasted.

It is strange watching these episodes in COVID times. A lot of the science they are speaking about turns out to be the same that we discuss these days. Could the COVID virus be engineered? Or a side effect of a failed genetic experiment? Can a virus get modified by host DNA? Cool to see decent science in science fiction.
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Daya
Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 10:28am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Affliction

@H: Actually, it is Worf's line in DS9 that makes it imperative that there be an in-world explanation. All the other changes you speak of (and the hilarious change in the Tellarites appearance) do not need to be explained because we can allow ourselves to give differences in production a certain leeway. But once its commented on IN DIALOGUE, the change in appearance becomes canon, which means an explanation has to be provided!

@RonB: Surprisingly, I like both the B&B and Manny Coto eras of ST:Enterprise. If not for you guys, I'd have imagined it was all a natural flow; a single narrative, and a good one at that: a natural growth from bumbling small-stakes idiocy to the surefooted founding of the Federation. And even though I love all four seasons till now, I love that there are only four!
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Daya
Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 6:13am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: The Aenar

Rather than thinking of this episode as the end of the Romulan arc on Enterprise, we should think of this as the end of Shran's arc. Then it makes perfect sense.

(P.S.: I don't know if Shran shows up again or not, so by "end of arc" I just mean getting to know where an important character landed up. Like Spock in Reunification.)
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Daya
Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 5:58am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: United

I think Shran wasn't really trying hard to kill Archer. Having lost his ship and then Talas, he had lost his will to live and wanted to die a "warrior death" or something. He was just doing enough to make Archer think it was a real fight.

Also, the "incapacitated" loophole may not be so much of a loophole either. For all we know, maybe an ancient warrior rite is not so much a real fight any more as it is a ritual. Like Paso Doble is to bullfighting. Maybe it is the comparative naivety of the Enterprise crew that they take it so seriously. All they have are legalities of the ritual, no actual cultural reference.
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Daya
Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 5:30am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Babel One

On the Romulan technology being too advanced, I agree with those that are saying it is NOT too advanced. After all, they have a simple holoprojector. They fool only *visual* sensors (cameras). Future Enterprises are shown fitted with sensors of hundreds of distinct particles / phenomena, and though holographic technology also does progress (you can touch it by the time of TNG), holographs do not fool future sensors, only eyes. Thus, the camouflage is a primitive idea, and will be impossible to reproduce as sensor technology develops.

Another reason that the technology may become obsolete is that the drone has to be necessarily *smaller* than the ship it is projecting. If unmanned drone tech becomes obsolete in the future only large manned ships will remain, and there will be no larger "skins" to project.
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Daya
Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 5:22am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Babel One

The first time we see a Romulan bridge is in the classic episode Balance of Terror. Unlike most other starship bridges, the Romulan bridge has no obvious "front" direction. Their stations are clustered, and face each other rather than facing the wall.

In this episode, the room that the Romulans are shown to occupy has a similar no-front-direction design, making us believe this is ENT's depiction of a standard Romulan bridge. But this is what helps them hide the ending so well -- because a standard starship bridge would have been much harder to pull back from to reveal a static room on a planet. Brilliant art direction!
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Daya
Mon, Jul 5, 2021, 5:55am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Observer Effect

* they WOULD at least plead that it be another way
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Daya
Mon, Jul 5, 2021, 5:53am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Observer Effect

Interesting episode. Of course Archer is hypocritical, but for any human on this planet, I am sure they are taking certain decisions that, if the role were reversed, they wouldn't at least plead that it be another way. I liked that Archer's realization of his own hypocrisy is evident on his face. But this realization also helps him understand quickly that an appeal will not overcome the Organian non-interference directive. This is why he takes a different approach, a trick if you will. Offers the Organians the chance to learn compassion! This quickly-shifting-attitudes-to-see-what-works approach is the hallmark of Captain Kirk's dealing with aliens. Archer has to do it here while smarting from the realization of the consequences of his own previous actions.

So, I agree with RonB above, that it would have been better if Archer could have won an appeal to compassion. But he actually loses that argument. He wins due to a last-ditch feint, not a philosophical dialogue. This episode makes us feel the way insects feel -- irrelevant; but then we feel relieved too. By whatever luck, our friends scraped through just this once.
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Daya
Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 11:15am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Daedalus

If you watch T'Pol's face closely, it is almost as if she's a different person in this episode. I think the subtle "Vulcan arrogance" she displayed throughout the series, knowing herself to be more intelligent, better than everyone around her, is suddenly gone. This would happen, of course, if you realized everything you based your superiority on was fake!

Great continuity with the Vulcan arc. Archer, on the other hand... No sooner is Surak's katra gone from his mind that he reverts back to pig-headed order-barker. Maybe that's why removing Surak's katra was like lifting a load off his mind. Can't have all that logic in there... it hurts him.

There is one possible in-story explanation for the way Emory was played. Emory is aware of the low probability of saving his son 15 years after he disappeared (BTW, Scotty was in a pattern buffer, Quinn was in a transport beam), and is just going through the motions to convince himself he tried everything possible.

Emory and his daughter will at least get involuntary manslaughter, right? In fact, Emory can only be given "full access" to a ship's resources if he has some Starfleet credentials, which means he will be court martialled. He should be.
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Daya
Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 4:14am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Awakening

It would be hilarious if T'Pol's father was named T'Mor. Which parent would get called to the principal's office if T'Pol was naughty? It could be anyone, 'Mor or 'Les.
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Daya
Fri, Jul 2, 2021, 1:57pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: The Augments

I loved the grappler taking out a warp nacelle idea. They actually used their non-tractor-beam old-tech as an advantage! I also loved Archer's con, where he is winging it on the fly. He is learning Klingon culture, mannerisms and politics on the fly. I laughed out aloud at the Q'Plah, and the way Archer looks around for appreciation from his crew. Great thespian he is not, but he seems to have pulled this one off! I always find it interesting when good actors play bad actors. I liked that the bird of prey warp effect matches the bird of prey warp effect in STIV:TVH. Very well done. Finally, I liked the subtle allusion to why the names Noonien Singh and Noonien Soong are similar, a question that I had asked other star trek fans all the way back in the year 2000, and got surprised reactions.

The augments remind me of the TOS episode "Miri". Children who grew without supervision. They would produce an ape-like society -- a power hierarchy, as shown in Miri, and as shown in this trilogy. The supreme tragedy is we will never know if the augments would have turned out better with better supervision, the nature v nurture debate left unfinished. Both Erik Soong's presence and his later absence turned out to be not great supervision. An outcast, an egotist an and ideologue, Soong is hardly the model parent.

People are understandably upset at the "Meh"-inducing Malik, a cardboard villain if there was ever one. I think the trilogy is better viewed as the supreme tragedy of one Erik Soong's failed attempts at giving augments a second chance. Similar to Jurassic Park's John Hammond.
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Daya
Fri, Jul 2, 2021, 11:31am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S4: Cold Station 12

Why compare Malik to Khan? Khan was a majestic politician-king who had been ruler of Asia. Malik is a parentless teen who has grown marooned with only 19 same-aged siblings for company. They are very different, and are supposed to be.
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Daya
Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 1:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Hatchery

The obvious and correct solution was to take the 19 hatched insectoids with them. That was the only way to be sure they would survive, not give out the location of the Enterprise, and resume the mission.

Also, this scenario would have created tremendous drama. Imagine 19 children of enemy biology growing up on Enterprise (at 8 times the speed of human growth). When they start realizing what is happening, which side will they choose? Will we be able to trust them? If grown insectoids mount a rescue mission for the younglings, do we protect the children from being "kidnapped"? If a temporary truce for the transfer of the children becomes possible, do the children get a say in where they want to stay? What if they have mind control abilities as adults too?

So many dramatic and philosophical questions never asked, because absolutely immorally, we left half-day-old babies running around on a dying ship while the captain was sleeping off his temporary insanity. Huff!
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Daya
Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 5:10pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Doctor's Orders

Uh, hello? Why is everyone asking why he hallucinated T'Pol and no one else? He hallucinated many people. He dismissed the humans immediately as impossible. T'Pol persisted because she was non-human, excuse enough for him under the circumstances.


One thing odd about the ending was that his T'Pol hallucination continued after they were out of the anomaly...
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Daya
Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 11:36am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Harbinger

I think you meant American-adjacent aliens.
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Daya
Sun, Jun 20, 2021, 1:54am (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Chosen Realm

I think the writers intended to have us think that the "heretics" they were talking about were scientists / logic people; the conflict they were talking about on their home world was science vs. religion. They made us believe it by the T'Pol vs. D'Jamat argument, and D'Jamat's continual mocking of science. So the reveal that the conflict was religion-v-religion was supposed as a surprise. It did surprise this commenter at least.

Maybe the writers were attempting to quickly convey religion-v-religion conflict, through the words of a basic religious zealot. Many on this board are reading too much into it and expressing their disdain that religious conflict is much more complex than such an absurdist reduction. Yes, it definitely is, but if you had to reduce it to a single sentence, it would seem as absurd. E.g. conflict over whether some guy was resurrected or not.
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Daya
Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 7:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Carpenter Street

They should have done more of an X-Files homage. After all they were going around in a car. After all T'Pol was skeptical of everything, including if time travel exists in the first place. After all it was night and dark (they should have had flashlights). After all Archer was unquestioningly sold on a crazy theory.

Since it was supposed to be 2004, they should have let T'Pol speak to Archer from the car instead of stepping outside to do so. Then when the medic refers to "all y'er fancy equipment", he should have said "y'er fancy equipment, y'er fancy flip phone". It would have been ironic because flip phones were inspired by Star Trek. :)

The American obliviousness of vegetarians' queasiness circa the early 2000s was well depicted. The fries "might be ok". Indeed!
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Daya
Thu, Jun 17, 2021, 5:12am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Course: Oblivion

I get a strong feeling that the ending was supposed to be the following:

When silver Harry Kim sees the unknown ship approaching on sensors he knows silver Voyager has but moments left to survive. In a desperate attempt at securing posterity, Harry Kim tries to send the unknown ship logs, newest-first. Only a few files are sent before the silver Voyager disintegrates. When they are received and decoded by true Voyager, they turn out to be the Doctor's photographs of Tom and B'Ellana's wedding.
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Daya
Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 4:45pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Twilight

@OmicronThetaDelta: Exactly my point!

And we end up having "no episode" anyway, because the episode cancels itself out.
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Daya
Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 4:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: North Star

Ironic that people are *both* angry at why have they not advanced in 300 years and at how can they maintain this level of technology. Any point of view, as long as we can hate the episode, eh?

The backstory seems clear. After the human uprising, the Skagarans were marginalized. Help from the larger Skagaran society never appeared because the Delphic Expanse had happened by that time, cutting off this world from the rest of the galaxy. Archer is trying to get as much information about the Xindi as he can. If he sees a planet with human biosigns, he is obviously going to investigate to see if he can make allies or get information.


This episode asks one of the most difficult questions to ever be asked. How much retribution is OK? When does the oppressed become the oppressor? I guess when the question being asked is not popular, the writers try to hide it by not belaboring the point. But then evvvvveryone misses it. Kinda like Spock's Brain.
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Daya
Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 12:35pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S3: Twilight

The parasites that were gone from the newest scan were gone from the earlier scans as well. This means that Phlox would have always believed there were no parasites in that region of the brain. Which means he would have targeted another region of the brain in his first test. Now the parasites in this region would be gone, which means they would have never existed in the first place and so on and on. Thus, Phlox's *first test would have been enough* to remove the parasites bit-by-bit, and time would have been reset. No need to destroy Trip's Enterprise.

(With thanks to Bernd, I modified his theory)


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I wish there was a scene while Archer and T'Pol were both dying which gave some closure to the romance. I propose:


(Archer has set the final subspace overload lever and both, dying from phaser fire are waiting for the outcome)

Archer: Well, let's see if this works.

T'Pol: If this doesn't work ...
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Daya
Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 2:18pm (UTC -5)
Re: ENT S1: Dear Doctor

I am not denying that evolution works through natural selection. I do not think the episode is denying that evolution works through natural selection either. The episode seems to be giving the scientists (Phlox in this case) more predictive power to calculate where evolution will lead than the predictive power we have today. From whatever we see in the episode, the increased predictive power does not have to mean the natural selection basis of evolution has changed.

Consider - for example - that Newton came up with his laws of motion, gravity and viscosity. Newton was able to use these laws to predict the motion of planets, but not, say, the motion of fluids. A few hundred years later, just the laws of motion, gravity and viscosity were put together with another Newtonian invention, calculus to produce the Navier-Stokes equations, that can predict the motion of fluids. It would be wrong to say Navier and Stokes overturned Newton's theories. They simply figured out a way to extend its inherent predictive power in a direction that Newton himself had failed to. My point is, showing a future theory is more predictive than a current theory does not mean that the future theory is invalidating the current theory. It could be building upon, while completely accepting current theory, like Navier-Stokes theory of fluids builds upon, while completely accepting all Newtonian theories.

Thanks for reading.
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