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Re: ORV S1: Mad Idolatry
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You still have the second season to watch (and Season 3 will be out in a few months).
Trust me, it gets more Trekkish with each episode.
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You still have the second season to watch (and Season 3 will be out in a few months).
Trust me, it gets more Trekkish with each episode.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
I found LD to be tedious and childish. (Case in point: the Blast Shield song). The CalArts character animation style doesn't help either, it looks like a 90s cartoon ad for Geico.
If the only Trek we're going to get from here out are subversive-imaginings that depend on gross-out humor and/or mindless action and/or gore, then why even call it Trek? I mean, I get that the franchise name has some cachet, but nonetheless, why make sequels so at odds with what came before? Why would they trade in a preexisting audience for chasing after a new one? It makes no sense, business-wise.
I do find it interesting that, with the acdvent of nu-Trek, market penetration for the franchise has gone in a negative direction. Through mismanagement, Trek is no longer considered a top franchise:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/successful-media-franchises/
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/mandalorian-avengers-stranger-things-best-shows-1234835807/
Remember when Trek vs Star Wars was one of the big cultural divide questions? Remember when 15% of all Americans tuned into TNG every week? So much for that.
Getting beat by The Witcher, Hamilton and Coco is pathetic.
I found LD to be tedious and childish. (Case in point: the Blast Shield song). The CalArts character animation style doesn't help either, it looks like a 90s cartoon ad for Geico.
If the only Trek we're going to get from here out are subversive-imaginings that depend on gross-out humor and/or mindless action and/or gore, then why even call it Trek? I mean, I get that the franchise name has some cachet, but nonetheless, why make sequels so at odds with what came before? Why would they trade in a preexisting audience for chasing after a new one? It makes no sense, business-wise.
I do find it interesting that, with the acdvent of nu-Trek, market penetration for the franchise has gone in a negative direction. Through mismanagement, Trek is no longer considered a top franchise:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/successful-media-franchises/
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/mandalorian-avengers-stranger-things-best-shows-1234835807/
Remember when Trek vs Star Wars was one of the big cultural divide questions? Remember when 15% of all Americans tuned into TNG every week? So much for that.
Getting beat by The Witcher, Hamilton and Coco is pathetic.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
For realistic interpersonal drama in Golden Age Scifi, I'm most partial to Frederick Pohl and James Tiptree, Jr.
For realistic interpersonal drama in Golden Age Scifi, I'm most partial to Frederick Pohl and James Tiptree, Jr.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ Bob
The episode where time runs backwards is pretty good too. The science doesn't make 100% sense, but it's still more realistic than the Spore Drive.
@ Bob
The episode where time runs backwards is pretty good too. The science doesn't make 100% sense, but it's still more realistic than the Spore Drive.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
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I watched Yesteryear for the first time in a decade and it's shocking how much more depth and narrative cohesion the 70's cartoon has in comparison to Nu-Trek.
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I watched Yesteryear for the first time in a decade and it's shocking how much more depth and narrative cohesion the 70's cartoon has in comparison to Nu-Trek.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ Booming
She can't be President for 11 years.
The maximum time a President is allowed to serve is 9 years and 364 days (and that's only if a VP takes over with less than 2 years to go into the end of the term and then wins two more times).
@ Booming
She can't be President for 11 years.
The maximum time a President is allowed to serve is 9 years and 364 days (and that's only if a VP takes over with less than 2 years to go into the end of the term and then wins two more times).
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ Gray
Why is censoring other's thoughts considered okay nowadays?
Your personal offense is not the barometer by which everyone else must be judged.
@ Gray
Why is censoring other's thoughts considered okay nowadays?
Your personal offense is not the barometer by which everyone else must be judged.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ Patrick
They filmed six episodes before the first lockdown and came back and filmed another month before the XMas shutdown (which has been delayed by a week).
Despite your protestations of doom and gloom, it'll be back on screens by summer.
@ Patrick
They filmed six episodes before the first lockdown and came back and filmed another month before the XMas shutdown (which has been delayed by a week).
Despite your protestations of doom and gloom, it'll be back on screens by summer.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ Patrick
Huh?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are finishing filming the third season of The Orville right now (after Corona delays) and it should be coming out on Hulu in a few months. They have a bigger budget than ever before and every episode will be almost an hour in length, if not longer.
@ Patrick
Huh?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are finishing filming the third season of The Orville right now (after Corona delays) and it should be coming out on Hulu in a few months. They have a bigger budget than ever before and every episode will be almost an hour in length, if not longer.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
I must point out that the Orville has managed to lay the groundwork for an entire scifi universe and juggle several arcs while also telling a bunch of standalone Trekkish stories and they managed to do that in only 26 episodes (2 seasons).
Discovery has failed. It's as simple as that.
I must point out that the Orville has managed to lay the groundwork for an entire scifi universe and juggle several arcs while also telling a bunch of standalone Trekkish stories and they managed to do that in only 26 episodes (2 seasons).
Discovery has failed. It's as simple as that.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
To whomever said this in the thread somewhere..
Yes, an old Kelpian with a beard looks like Lorien. I had a chuckle when I first saw him :)
To whomever said this in the thread somewhere..
Yes, an old Kelpian with a beard looks like Lorien. I had a chuckle when I first saw him :)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ Booming
I never said she'd be 25ing him by the the end of the year.
It makes more sense for her to have questions of his cognizance come to a head at two years and a day into his term. Then she can run for two more elections.
@ Booming
I never said she'd be 25ing him by the the end of the year.
It makes more sense for her to have questions of his cognizance come to a head at two years and a day into his term. Then she can run for two more elections.
Re: ENT S2: Carbon Creek
@ Infinite Pest
It's not just infant mortality rates dropping that have raised the average life span in the last century. America has had static rates for i.m. for decades but still the average life span has increased.
Not only should credit be given to medical advancements (such as sanitiation, new drugs and anesthesia) but to the overall push for greater safety and a better understanding of nutrition.
@ Infinite Pest
It's not just infant mortality rates dropping that have raised the average life span in the last century. America has had static rates for i.m. for decades but still the average life span has increased.
Not only should credit be given to medical advancements (such as sanitiation, new drugs and anesthesia) but to the overall push for greater safety and a better understanding of nutrition.
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2
@ cHrome
Demigod or no, why should she get credit for solving problems SHE CREATED?
@ cHrome
Demigod or no, why should she get credit for solving problems SHE CREATED?
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
If someone told you they were poly, would you correct them and tell them they're actually bi?
Just because you prefer specific terminology doesn't mean it's okay to project it onto others and expect them to adopt it.
If someone told you they were poly, would you correct them and tell them they're actually bi?
Just because you prefer specific terminology doesn't mean it's okay to project it onto others and expect them to adopt it.
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
But it does.
There is an implication (in using cis-) that my gender is learned behavior that happens to align with my biology, vs. some innate quality that is unchangeable. The same implication follows for what I'm attracted to. I don't accept that. I know me better than others do and there's no voluntary aspect to my gender or orientation. It's innate. Nothing needs a prefix.
Don't misgenderer me or define what I'm attracted to on my behalf, it's that simple.
Why advocate for using divisive verbiage that separates people back into categories? Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose? This isn't offensive but using the wrong pronoun is?
I'm trying to restate my incredulity at these apparent incongruities in the hopes that someone will explain them away. If no one bites this time, I'll let the subject drop.
But it does.
There is an implication (in using cis-) that my gender is learned behavior that happens to align with my biology, vs. some innate quality that is unchangeable. The same implication follows for what I'm attracted to. I don't accept that. I know me better than others do and there's no voluntary aspect to my gender or orientation. It's innate. Nothing needs a prefix.
Don't misgenderer me or define what I'm attracted to on my behalf, it's that simple.
Why advocate for using divisive verbiage that separates people back into categories? Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose? This isn't offensive but using the wrong pronoun is?
I'm trying to restate my incredulity at these apparent incongruities in the hopes that someone will explain them away. If no one bites this time, I'll let the subject drop.
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
@ Elliot
Actually, I have experienced plenty of discrimination for being gay and I have been misgendered for the amusement of others. I guess I missed out on all those "benefits".
I am a male and I like other males. There is an intrisic masculine quality that defines what I am and what I'm attracted to.
I didn't go through all of that struggle so a straight "ally" can affix modifiers to my gender and orientation. Frankly, you don't have the right to redefine me or dilute my experience to make others comfortable.
I think human language already possessed all the language necessary to discuss these topics, and I don't believe it's fair to dismiss my viewpoint as ignorance because I won't adhere to some third wave talking point.
@ Elliot
Actually, I have experienced plenty of discrimination for being gay and I have been misgendered for the amusement of others. I guess I missed out on all those "benefits".
I am a male and I like other males. There is an intrisic masculine quality that defines what I am and what I'm attracted to.
I didn't go through all of that struggle so a straight "ally" can affix modifiers to my gender and orientation. Frankly, you don't have the right to redefine me or dilute my experience to make others comfortable.
I think human language already possessed all the language necessary to discuss these topics, and I don't believe it's fair to dismiss my viewpoint as ignorance because I won't adhere to some third wave talking point.
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
You're fine, Booming.
If it helps, I'm still watching Another Life and I think it's eroding my IQ, so there's that
You're fine, Booming.
If it helps, I'm still watching Another Life and I think it's eroding my IQ, so there's that
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
The term "male" has a built-in assumption about biology behind it. Cis-male is a needless redundancy.
The push to accept transpeople as the opposite gender was all about making the term "male" more inclusive and flexible, at least as I understood it.
I'm sure plenty of people who've switched to the opposing gender are offended that they'll always have a prefix attached to them (by their "allies", no less).
The term "male" has a built-in assumption about biology behind it. Cis-male is a needless redundancy.
The push to accept transpeople as the opposite gender was all about making the term "male" more inclusive and flexible, at least as I understood it.
I'm sure plenty of people who've switched to the opposing gender are offended that they'll always have a prefix attached to them (by their "allies", no less).
Re: DSC S3: The Sanctuary
@ Elliot
I am a man and want to be perceived and referred to as such. I am a male, not a cis-male.
Will you tell me I don't have the right to define my gender? Tell me I'm not a "male".
Will you tell a man that was formerly a woman that he is not a "male", but rather a "trans-male"? How does creating new linguistic division further acceptance?
If someone is transitions to the other gender, then they are other gender, right? Isn't ditching the prefix the whole point?
It's not transphobic to assert your gender, nor is it transphobic to dislike the divisive terminology you're advocating for.
@ Elliot
I am a man and want to be perceived and referred to as such. I am a male, not a cis-male.
Will you tell me I don't have the right to define my gender? Tell me I'm not a "male".
Will you tell a man that was formerly a woman that he is not a "male", but rather a "trans-male"? How does creating new linguistic division further acceptance?
If someone is transitions to the other gender, then they are other gender, right? Isn't ditching the prefix the whole point?
It's not transphobic to assert your gender, nor is it transphobic to dislike the divisive terminology you're advocating for.
Re: DSC S3: There Is a Tide...
@ The Queen
I know it doesn't say that, but that's how it's being received by many.
@ The Queen
I know it doesn't say that, but that's how it's being received by many.
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