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Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
@ Gerontius
You forget the power Seth has. The Cleveland Show shouldn't have lasted past it's first season, but it survived in a comfy time slot for 4 years. FOX (pre-Disney) gives Seth a lot of latitude.
If I were Seth, I'd say either renew the Orville/ let me shop it around to Netflix/etc OR I'm not doing Family Guy or Cosmos or anything else with you anymore.
@ Gerontius
You forget the power Seth has. The Cleveland Show shouldn't have lasted past it's first season, but it survived in a comfy time slot for 4 years. FOX (pre-Disney) gives Seth a lot of latitude.
If I were Seth, I'd say either renew the Orville/ let me shop it around to Netflix/etc OR I'm not doing Family Guy or Cosmos or anything else with you anymore.
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow
@ Hardy
I too would love to see episodes about Yaphit, Lt. Dann, Nurse Park, Ensign Turco etc. but I think it was a smart choice to save that for later seasons. Using this season to focus on the main cast and flesh out the universe while perfecting the tone was a wise course of action.
@ Hardy
I too would love to see episodes about Yaphit, Lt. Dann, Nurse Park, Ensign Turco etc. but I think it was a smart choice to save that for later seasons. Using this season to focus on the main cast and flesh out the universe while perfecting the tone was a wise course of action.
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow
@ Perry
The soundtrack this episode was amazeballs!!
I wish I could peek at the score, it sure sounded like Kelly was battling herself thematically (I love when themes are transposed inverted and overlaid to create tension). The Kaylon raid's "music" was incredibly unsettling as well.
@ Perry
The soundtrack this episode was amazeballs!!
I wish I could peek at the score, it sure sounded like Kelly was battling herself thematically (I love when themes are transposed inverted and overlaid to create tension). The Kaylon raid's "music" was incredibly unsettling as well.
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow
I intellectually understand that everyone's mileage may vary, but I'm not sure why the Kelly/Ed plotline gets criticized more than all of the other relationship-based plot threads put together.
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say that Kelly's infidelity is still an issue for some of the fans.
Personally, I find their interactions to be relatable, believable and hilarious .... but, in the interest of full disclosure, I liked the pretty bickering in ENT's Precious Cargo (Haha).
I intellectually understand that everyone's mileage may vary, but I'm not sure why the Kelly/Ed plotline gets criticized more than all of the other relationship-based plot threads put together.
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say that Kelly's infidelity is still an issue for some of the fans.
Personally, I find their interactions to be relatable, believable and hilarious .... but, in the interest of full disclosure, I liked the pretty bickering in ENT's Precious Cargo (Haha).
Re: ORV S2: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow
Did young Kelly just rewrite the timeline?!?! Wireless telecommunications facility!!
Does that mean next week's episode is in an alternate reality?! So many questions!
Funny, insightful, good direction (the Kaylon encounter was actually kind of ominously scary) and a really REALLY good soundtrack. 4 stars for me!
Did young Kelly just rewrite the timeline?!?! Wireless telecommunications facility!!
Does that mean next week's episode is in an alternate reality?! So many questions!
Funny, insightful, good direction (the Kaylon encounter was actually kind of ominously scary) and a really REALLY good soundtrack. 4 stars for me!
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix
@Jackson
That's why I think this could be seen as an abortion analogy. A fetus cannot argue for its self-preservation either.
The real question around "Tuvi"x is why doesn't Starfleet doesn't have protocols for weird transporter accidents by this point?!
In the transporter, you can be twinned, de-aged, blended with another, assaulted in the matter stream, melted, transformed into a being of pure energy, be cured of disease, be sent to a mirror universe, contract psychosis etc. etc..
Why would this even be up for debate? There should be rules set in place for easily imagined eventualities.
Also, I must say that the idea of Tuvorchid just makes me laugh.
@Jackson
That's why I think this could be seen as an abortion analogy. A fetus cannot argue for its self-preservation either.
The real question around "Tuvi"x is why doesn't Starfleet doesn't have protocols for weird transporter accidents by this point?!
In the transporter, you can be twinned, de-aged, blended with another, assaulted in the matter stream, melted, transformed into a being of pure energy, be cured of disease, be sent to a mirror universe, contract psychosis etc. etc..
Why would this even be up for debate? There should be rules set in place for easily imagined eventualities.
Also, I must say that the idea of Tuvorchid just makes me laugh.
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix
Reading through the comments, I had a rather provocative idea: this episode could be seen as a parable for the fight over Third Trimester Abortions.
Reading through the comments, I had a rather provocative idea: this episode could be seen as a parable for the fight over Third Trimester Abortions.
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
No one in the fandom had a problem with Trek captains/officers arbitrating legal proceedings that would have galactic ramifications. In a Federation with trillions of citizens, Picard/Riker and Janeway/Tuvok obviously would not be the most qualified to debate AI rights ... despite that, those episodes are praised highly by most fans (rightly so, IMHO).
That'd part of the trade-off when you're watching episodic TV.
I'm willing to grant this show the same latitude, but I can only speak for myself, of course.
PS- I also don't see how this episode would've worked out logistically or dramatically if they also would have introduced and fleshed out a mediator character (while sidelining Mercer from the plot).
No one in the fandom had a problem with Trek captains/officers arbitrating legal proceedings that would have galactic ramifications. In a Federation with trillions of citizens, Picard/Riker and Janeway/Tuvok obviously would not be the most qualified to debate AI rights ... despite that, those episodes are praised highly by most fans (rightly so, IMHO).
That'd part of the trade-off when you're watching episodic TV.
I'm willing to grant this show the same latitude, but I can only speak for myself, of course.
PS- I also don't see how this episode would've worked out logistically or dramatically if they also would have introduced and fleshed out a mediator character (while sidelining Mercer from the plot).
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
I was reading the Orville wiki and apparently Moclans born biologically female have centered spots, males have them on the sides (a detail I never noticed before now).
I'm going up have to rewatch the episodes with crowd scenes with Moclans at some point.... it'd be interesting to see the if there's a detectable minority in the population (vs it being a very rare genetic trait).
I was reading the Orville wiki and apparently Moclans born biologically female have centered spots, males have them on the sides (a detail I never noticed before now).
I'm going up have to rewatch the episodes with crowd scenes with Moclans at some point.... it'd be interesting to see the if there's a detectable minority in the population (vs it being a very rare genetic trait).
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
^
I'm pretty sure that was Tony Todd (Candyman/ Worf's brother Kurn/ the coroner from the Final Destination films/ "old" Jake Sisko).
^
I'm pretty sure that was Tony Todd (Candyman/ Worf's brother Kurn/ the coroner from the Final Destination films/ "old" Jake Sisko).
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
It was so great when Bortus chewed out Klyden in front of Kelly for his bigotry. I literally shouted "Finally!!!" at the screen. Very cathartic, haha.
It was so great when Bortus chewed out Klyden in front of Kelly for his bigotry. I literally shouted "Finally!!!" at the screen. Very cathartic, haha.
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
@ Mertov
Amen to that!
Klyden is seriously getting on my nerves at this point.
@ Mertov
Amen to that!
Klyden is seriously getting on my nerves at this point.
Re: ORV S2: Sanctuary
I'm at a friend's house at the moment so I don't have a bunch of time for a thorough review, but this was a fantastic episode that finally addressed that nitpick from About A Girl. It was great to see Haveena again .... plus, it was nice to see how the Union Council functions.
A more thorough review to come, but extremely Trekkish episode! 3.5 stars
PS I'm encouraged by how the promo said the "season finale" in 2 weeks, not the "finale". That's the first Ive heard FOX officially use industry phrasing implying there might be a renewal.
I'm at a friend's house at the moment so I don't have a bunch of time for a thorough review, but this was a fantastic episode that finally addressed that nitpick from About A Girl. It was great to see Haveena again .... plus, it was nice to see how the Union Council functions.
A more thorough review to come, but extremely Trekkish episode! 3.5 stars
PS I'm encouraged by how the promo said the "season finale" in 2 weeks, not the "finale". That's the first Ive heard FOX officially use industry phrasing implying there might be a renewal.
Re: DS9 S4: The Muse
@William B
I've acted a little foolish on here before so I'm definitely not standing in judgement of you ... although, I am still standing in judgement of myself, so I understand how you feel (I think).
Sometimes we humans can get emotional about an esoteric topic and, in reality, it's a subconscious stand-in for what actually is bothering us. IRL we have dozens of cues to determine if someone is dealing with personal issues: tone, inflection, facial expressions, body language, conversational responsiveness, etc.
Of course, on the internet the only way to separate genuine anger from projection from trolling is if someone admits it ... sp props for doing so. Also, you generally aren't an overemotional person on here, so I wouldn't sweat it too much. I happily present you with Dave in MN's "Thanks For Being Honest & You're Cool In My Book" Award.
Good luck sir and stay positive!
@William B
I've acted a little foolish on here before so I'm definitely not standing in judgement of you ... although, I am still standing in judgement of myself, so I understand how you feel (I think).
Sometimes we humans can get emotional about an esoteric topic and, in reality, it's a subconscious stand-in for what actually is bothering us. IRL we have dozens of cues to determine if someone is dealing with personal issues: tone, inflection, facial expressions, body language, conversational responsiveness, etc.
Of course, on the internet the only way to separate genuine anger from projection from trolling is if someone admits it ... sp props for doing so. Also, you generally aren't an overemotional person on here, so I wouldn't sweat it too much. I happily present you with Dave in MN's "Thanks For Being Honest & You're Cool In My Book" Award.
Good luck sir and stay positive!
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
@ Jammer
Haha!
This board is quickly becoming my favorite place online. The late-90s ethos of this place is never boring!
@ Jammer
Haha!
This board is quickly becoming my favorite place online. The late-90s ethos of this place is never boring!
Re: DSC S2: Perpetual Infinity
Glad to hear it, that was some weirdness!
What's up with the "Hodor" comment at the end of the (still unrepaired) reviews?
Glad to hear it, that was some weirdness!
What's up with the "Hodor" comment at the end of the (still unrepaired) reviews?
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions
@ Mertov
Tally up the reviews of both T.O. & DSC from two years ago, there's been no actual drop-off in the number of commenters OR comments ... quite the opposite, actually. Not to be combative, but I genuinely doubt that anyone who actually bothers to scroll down and reads through a comment section would be intimated by a healthy discussion.
Limiting posts in any way would actually scare more people away than it would bring in ... and it would encourage posts that were 100 paragraphs as commenters tried to cram every thought into their limited interactions.
Despite occasional speedbumps, the system seems to work (says the man who posts a lot, haha).
@ Mertov
Tally up the reviews of both T.O. & DSC from two years ago, there's been no actual drop-off in the number of commenters OR comments ... quite the opposite, actually. Not to be combative, but I genuinely doubt that anyone who actually bothers to scroll down and reads through a comment section would be intimated by a healthy discussion.
Limiting posts in any way would actually scare more people away than it would bring in ... and it would encourage posts that were 100 paragraphs as commenters tried to cram every thought into their limited interactions.
Despite occasional speedbumps, the system seems to work (says the man who posts a lot, haha).
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/1111778480654553096
Seth just Tweeted:
"Happy birthday @MarinaSirtis. You can catch her on The Orville in less than two weeks!"
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/1111778480654553096
Seth just Tweeted:
"Happy birthday @MarinaSirtis. You can catch her on The Orville in less than two weeks!"
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions
It's March Madness in the US. I'm not sure how much overlap there is between audiences, but a lot of shows don't bother airing new episodes during the NCAA playoffs.
It's March Madness in the US. I'm not sure how much overlap there is between audiences, but a lot of shows don't bother airing new episodes during the NCAA playoffs.
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions
I know all reviews are subject to personal taste, but still, I'm happy to see Jammer rated this so highly!
I know all reviews are subject to personal taste, but still, I'm happy to see Jammer rated this so highly!
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions
@Dougie
I've strongly disagreed with your reviews in the past, but glad to see you're doing ok.
@Dougie
I've strongly disagreed with your reviews in the past, but glad to see you're doing ok.
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions
@ Omicton
I shudder to think of Future Holo-Me and his future holo-kidney stones. Haha
@ Gerontius
I actually like that ithe story was left open-ended .... perhaps Gordon might end up with a Minuet Complex. I can foresee a future plot where Malloy's non- holographic girlfriend feels jealous/in competition with his "perfect" holo-ex and decides unmask the "real" Laura.
@ Omicton
I shudder to think of Future Holo-Me and his future holo-kidney stones. Haha
@ Gerontius
I actually like that ithe story was left open-ended .... perhaps Gordon might end up with a Minuet Complex. I can foresee a future plot where Malloy's non- holographic girlfriend feels jealous/in competition with his "perfect" holo-ex and decides unmask the "real" Laura.
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