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Dave in MN
Tue, May 21, 2019, 8:04am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

Man, I am EXCITED about this (and I'm extremely happy Seth & Co. are taking a inclusive approach to fan projects). I may have to buy a VR headset!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHs9lDdsc0

The Orville, The Interactive Fan Experience
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Dave in MN
Sat, May 18, 2019, 7:49am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

^

Almost everyone has a story about "the one that got away", so I don't find the general idea unbelievable.

As far as this episode goes, my impression was that Ed had (for the most part) had gotten over the Kelly date thing until she popped back up in his life with a crazy story about them marrying in another timeline.
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Dave in MN
Fri, May 17, 2019, 6:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Eye of the Beholder

@ Meister

I think she first had work done between season 6 and 7. Her face looked different in the last season.
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Dave in MN
Wed, May 15, 2019, 8:40am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Child

Too bad we can't post a poll on here.

Simple question: Is Data alive?

My vote is yes.
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Dave in MN
Sun, May 12, 2019, 8:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: DS9 S3: Through the Looking Glass

^

Um, what? Are you being serious?
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Dave in MN
Sun, May 12, 2019, 12:26pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

@Booming

Amusing link. 👍
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Dave in MN
Sat, May 11, 2019, 6:43pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

@ Mertov

Thanks for the heads up.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dave in MN
Sat, May 11, 2019, 9:15am (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S2: The Child

@ Lizzy Datalover

I have to agree with you.

Pulaski is racist to Data. There's another episode where she calls Data "it" and she's constantly ragging on him for not meeting up to her standard of sentience, self-agency and respect.

I also don't care for her attitude: "I'm gonna do what I want because I'm a badass doctor and if you don't like it, kiss my ass."

No, you aren't a superhero. See those pips on your uniform, Pulaski? That's called your "rank" and you have one because you are part of a quasi-military organization with a hierarchical structure.

Also, your bedside manner sucks.
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Dave in MN
Sat, May 11, 2019, 9:05am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Basics, Part I

@ Elliott

Very cool!!!

Did you have a chance to chat with Robert Picardo? Any Voyager or Orville related insights?

Details please!!!!!
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Dave in MN
Wed, May 8, 2019, 5:55pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Mad Idolatry

According to Google there are at least 4200 actively practiced dogmatic religions on the planet. So....

If you are an atheist, you believe that's 4,200 religious systems that are wrong.

If you have a personal faith but aren't a member of any dogmatic religion, you believe that's 4,200 religious systems that are wrong.

If you are a member of any dogmatic religion, you believe 4,199 religious systems are wrong.

The gulf between a theist and an atheist really isn't that large, is it? ;)
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Dave in MN
Wed, May 8, 2019, 9:23am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Mad Idolatry

@ Booming

Thanks for pointing that out.

Personally, I have an issue with philosophers who start off with a inherently flawed "grand premise". I can't just willingly accept an absurd hypothesis: that's not how logic works.

@ Demosthenes

Let's set aside all the leather-bound books for a second.

Didn't you find that this episode had a good counterargument?

It seems highly plausible to me that a seemingly insignificant event could/did spawn an entire religion.

Case in point: Scientology was (at one point) just an amusing notion L Ron Hubbard would tell his friends for a chuckle and now there are thousands of people who 100% believe in Xenu and Thetans and magic powers.
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Dave in MN
Tue, May 7, 2019, 7:34am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Mad Idolatry

@ Denosthenes

Have you read Bertrand Russell?

He's just as famous and respected of a philosopher and mathematician as the laundry list of 16th-19th century guys you cited (excepting CS Lewis), and he had a much better scientific and logical knowledge base to base his arguments on than any of your faves. His hypotheses/conclusions are clearly expressed and he utilizes no ontological backflips or linguistic trickery to arrive at his summations.

He eviscerates every argument put up by your favorite theists point for point.

I think it's pretty disingenuous to dismiss 20th century developments in philosophical thought. Intellectually shaming someone will only succeed if the shamee agrees your Book Club endorsements are the be-all and end-all of religious discussion.

PS-

I could've gone further down the "but-what-about" rabbit hole by citing James's pragmatism or Nietzsche or Schrodinger or Wittginstein or Stephen Hawking ... but if I did, I'd be citing my own Book Club recommendations AND I wouldn't be able to justify being a bit snarky with you. ;)
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Dave in MN
Sun, May 5, 2019, 12:16pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

The merchandise rollout seems to be going well.

The trading cards are very cool ... I'm gonna have to buy more sets, I want an autographed card!!!

But, yeah, there's not really any tangible "new" news about ANY of his ongoing FOX projects, a surprising lack of chatter/ leaks. I really do think he's doing the hardball contractual dance with DisFOX as we speak.

I believe The Orville's return is pretty likely, but where it'll air is another question altogether.
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Dave in MN
Sat, May 4, 2019, 9:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Old Wounds

I'm not sure what you think "the plot" actually is, but each episode is (for the most part) standalone and tells individual stories (with nods to continuity, of course).

It is an homage to Trek, NOT a parody.

I think it's very Roddenberry-esque, except the characters feel way less prissy and uptight than many Trek crews. It's like a blend of TOS, TNG and VOY with a dash of Cheers. Seth called it a "sci-fi drana cake with comedy frosting" and that's as good a description as any. (The jokes take more of a backseat by the end of the second season).

Episode 3 "About A Girl" is the first good, solid episode that showed the show's potential and most people here seemed to like that one.

Give it a shot, maybe you'll enjoy it!
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Dave in MN
Sat, May 4, 2019, 7:21pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S1: Old Wounds

Judging The Orville by the pilot is like judging TNG for Code of Honor.
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Dave in MN
Wed, May 1, 2019, 9:31am (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

@ Elliott

I didn't realize you were watching! Welcome aboard. ;)
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 5:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S2: Tuvix

Did anyone see the news about scientists in China having genetically edited monkeys so they now have human DNA coded for intelligence?

Tuvorchid, Targman and Tuvix may be closer than you think ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/chinese-scientists-insert-human-brain-gene-monkeys-spark-ethical-debate-ncna998076
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 4:42pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

@ Galadriel

OMG, sorry, that was my auto-correct!

Also ....

Orville Season 2 Gag Reel!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sVSYfg7We3Q
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 4:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

BTW, didn't the Orville already travel to 2D space?

If they could survive a two- dimensional universe with their tech, it doesn't seem improbable to me they could cross a observational barrier still within our 3-D universe (since they didn't enter the hole itself).
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 4:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

@ Gerontius

I know those symbols are Greek letters.

I was wondering if you were using an international keyboard or were using the extra symbols built into your device, that's all.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 3:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

I assumed the lack of a deflector dish meant the quantum field is what keeps the ship from getting shredded by micrometeoroids when it is traveling at high speeds (FTL and sub-light) and they don't engage the defensive deflectors when they travel.

My guess is the quantum field generator and the triple quantum drive are actually two separate things.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 3:44pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

To clarify a minor point, dilation happens to the object crossing the EH, but an observer on the object crossing the EH would not perceive any difference UNTIL they crossed back to regular space and synced their clocks.

Also, who's to say that an observer on the E.H. far side wouldn't see everything sped up? I guess they could've tinted everything red and blurry to simulate slowed photons of light, but who knows if that speculation would be accurate, especially considering the wonky physics?
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 3:36pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

My assumption is that the Quantum Drive creates a "bubble" of normal space around the ship. The tech manipulates space itself to propel the ship.

Why wouldn't the ship be protected once it passes the event horizon?

If you were an observer on a ship passing through the event horizon (the point when an external observer see no further movement) AND you had a way to protect yourself from magnetic, thermal and gravitational forces, you wouldn't actually notice any change.at that particular point. The event horizon is an effect that only happens to external observers. The same with time dilation.

Also a black hole is actually orb shaped, not like the wormhole-esque illustrations often shared online. You can orbit a black hole. All spiral galaxies do. It's only when you get in extremely close proximity that the changing laws of physics actually come into effect. For the record, they weren't actually "in the hole" itself.

I don't find any of this all that implausible considering the tech presented on the show.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 2:07pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

A quantum drive? Moving faster than light? Time travel?

"Dafuq"?

My point being that if we accept such tech exists as part of the premise, then why couldn't the ship use their quantum entangelement tech to escape a slightly closer orbit to a black hole? After all, the event horizon is perceptual, not an actual barrier.

Suspension of disbelief, my friend.
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Dave in MN
Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 1:43pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: The Road Not Taken

@ Thomas M

Hence the reason I used the word "might".
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