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Dathon
Sat, Jun 3, 2017, 2:25pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S1: Duet

Best episode ever in Trek universe. Strong, tragic, a unexpected punch in your stomach. Harris Yulin acted in an extremely tremendous way. Sublime. Other words, by me, would be superfluous.
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Dathon
Sat, Jun 3, 2017, 11:39am (UTC -6)
Re: VOY S1: Learning Curve

Worst episode ever in any Star Trek series, existing or not. This shameful load of crap is a spit in the face of ST philosophy. And the fact that it was conceived so "en passant"... Don't believe it? I just copy-paste my opinion about it, posted elsewhere...
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"Learning Curve" is the worst crap ever seen in ST universe, the lowest point ever touched, and in a single episode. Congrats! A single episode that I had to erease from my mind to avoid the destruction of the Federation. It is my "Omega Directive", and even Doc's lullaby to bioneural gel can't save it. Do you remember the development of dramatic episodes in TNG/DS9? Or the TNG "He-she is behaving abnormally, it's Nebula 4747's dust!" episodes? Forget it! What we have here? Captain's intent completely misunderstood... A bit of (childish) HAZING with a taste of "hyper-wesleyzed" Harry Kim (look how am so perfect!), and the ascertainment that B'elanna is not half-Kingon, but a bi-polar dumb. Tuvok's ability to understand of Captain's orders and (maternal?) hopes to integrate the crews, mean a cosplay of "Gunnery Sgt. Hartman" (that includes a Bolian "Private Pyle"). And the final shooting scene was (unfortunately) avoided by the wisdom (yes!) of Neelix (!!!). And Chakotay... OMG Chakotay! The proud Native Am, partisan for his planet, rebel Maquis captain for so noble reasons, the Delta Quadrant's Harlock... is now, to be gentle, a sort of "Alberto Sordi's Kansas City Cop" (search "An American in Rome" on Google). Or, to be honest, a redneck bully good for a bar fight outside an Interstate Hwy. And condemned, from that episode, to be the boring "teacher's pet" ("you've got dust on your suit"... seriously?). We have a PTSD drama episode, including RAPE and MASS MURDER backstories, developed with a "LOL, WHO CARES"... and NOTHING more. Very very educational and trekkie! I dunno if Livingston was under "krokodil" developing a "gold mine episode" as this (does sb remember "Duet", DS9 season 1?), and transforming it into a load of crap, but, this absolute lack of respect to basic Trek philosphy is disarmingly. I don't care if TOS' Klingons had no ridges, if first Borgs wore leggins. Low budget but good ideas is a Trek teaching, and our own imagination compensating lacks in anoter Trek teaching. I don't care if in the "episode 74x47" Geordi had reversed pins; and I really don't wish to bother Stewart with 1,000 trekkies questions, cuz he has a real life too. But I can't see the basis of Trek philosophy chewed and smashed in only 42 mins. It's a shame for their creators, because ST, more than a sci-fi product, is a hope, an "agit-prop for empathy". And, mainly in hopeless periods as this one (does WW3 started?), you can understand what I mean. If i wanna see "Full Metal Jacket" (a film that I know scene-by-scene), I see FMJ. Yes, this episode depicts 20th century's RL but... aehm... that's 23rd! And, as Lily Sloan said, "WHERE WAS YOUR "EVOLVED SENSIBILITY" THEN?!?!"...

I hope that people who conceived this episode can read this post and can feel shame, and all my blame for what they've done. Feq'lhr and the Gre'thor are waitin' for you.
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Just a test:
Take a person knowing nothing about ST universe, possibly a person with a bit of that "evolved sensibility" (Picard). Talk to her/him about ST, introduce her/him to trek universe, to what it represents, the intelligent sci-fi, the hope, the evolved humanity, the utopia (but not a "Mary Sue Utopia")... After this, show her/him, as first trekker approach, "Learning Curve". Your "test subject" will face: hazing, sort of high school bullying, a Hartmanized pointy-ears alien bothering his own, and blue skinned, Private Pyle, PTSD themes treated as "nobody cares", war murders and war rapes treated as "i give a fuck", bar brawls, captain's LOGIC suggestions to his high ranked officers completely misunderstood (or betrayed?) for their own sadistic (and ILLOGICAL, or simply idiotic, even for the 20th century) purposes. And, fortunately for you, they know nothing about the (very) former Space Rebel Superhero Chakotay, future "teacher's pet" and boring Mary Sue. I think you'll now his answer to you at the end of the episode.

PS: if you don't care, or consider this pile of poop a great episode... You can think to be ready to join Tal Shiar or the Obsidian Order... The truth is that you chose the wrong tv series. And so, please avoid to break my balls, i give a fuck of your "serial killer mood" opinions. Find a therapist!

Think to this episode as a Starfleet "test". Are you able to recognize poop, or you are so blind to blindly accept everything? What did Picard say about the "blind obedience"... The excuse of any criminal in almost all the worst tragedies of the human history?
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Dathon
Sat, Jun 3, 2017, 11:03am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S6: The Magnificent Ferengi

Bloody hell! Too much typos in my msg above.
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Dathon
Sat, Jun 3, 2017, 9:22am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S6: The Magnificent Ferengi

I agree with the review and, reading the comment of Quarkissnyder, I also agree with him. It seems that any Trek series should "pay a tribute to the Prophets" with a nonsense/WTF episode (or more than one). Prior to talk about this "Weekend at Keevan's" episode :) I have to spend some words to defend Ferengis episode... And gain my percentage of latinum, of course :-)

*TNG has the "drunk Irish buddies" (facepalm) that coined a new slang for having sex (washing feet)... And, I know, almost all the 1st season (Angel-One... lol...). TNG has the endless and gigantic wisdom of Picard blurred when he asks "could you help a Cardassian" to any Bajoran he meet. Seriously, Jean-Luc, you're my idol, but your requests are as "appropriate" as asking a 1940s Jew to help Germans. Where are "the... four... lights"?

*"Learning curve" (VOY), is the worst crap ever seen in ST universe, the lowest point ever touched, and in a single episode. Congrats! A single episode that I had to erease from my mind to avoid the destruction of the Federation. It is my "Omega Directive", and even Doc's lullaby to bioneural gel can't save it. Do you remember the development of dramatic episodes in TNG/DS9? Or the TNG "He-she is behaving abnormally, it's Nebula 4747's dust!" episodes? Forget it! What we have here? Captain's intent completely misunderstood... A bit of (childish) HAZING with a taste of "hyper-wesleyzed" Harry Kim (look how am so perfect!), and the ascertainment that B'elanna is not half-Kingon, but a bi-polar dumb. Tuvok's ability to understand of Captain's orders and (maternal?) hopes to integrate the crews, mean a cosplay of "Gunnery Sgt. Hartman" (that includes a Bolian "Private Pyle"). And the final shooting scene was (unfortunately) avoided by the wisdom (yes!) of Neelix (!!!). And Chakotay... OMG Chakotay! The proud Native Am, partisan for his planet, rebel Maquis captain for so noble reasons, the Delta Quadrant's Harlock... is now, to be gentle, a sort of "Alberto Sordi's Kansas City Cop" (search "An American in Rome" on Google). Or, to be honest, a redneck bully good for a bar fight outside an Interstate Hwy. And condemned, from that episode, to be the boring "teacher's pet" ("you've got dust on your suit"... seriously?). We have a PTSD drama episode, including RAPE and MASS MURDER backstories, developed with a "LOL, WHO CARES"... and NOTHING more. Very very educational and trekkie! I dunno if Livingston was under "krokodil" developing a "gold mine episode" as this (does sb remember "Duet", DS9 season 1?), and transforming it into a load of crap, but, this absolute lack of respect to basic Trek philosphy is disarmingly. I don't care if TOS' Klingons had no ridges, if first Borgs wore leggins. Low budget but good ideas is a Trek teaching, and our own imagination compensating lacks in anoter Trek teaching. I don't care if in the "episode 74x47" Geordi had reversed pins; and I really don't wish to bother Stewart with 1,000 trekkies questions, cuz he has a real life too. But I can't see the basis of Trek philosophy chewed and smashed in only 42 mins. It's a shame for their creators, because ST, more than a sci-fi product, is a hope, an "agit-prop for empathy". And, mainly in hopeless periods as this one (does WW3 started?), you can understand what I mean. If i wanna see "Full Metal Jacket" (a film that I know scene-by-scene), I see FMJ. Yes, this episode depicts 20th century's RL but... aehm... that's 23rd! And, ss Lily Sloan said, "Where was your "evolved sensibility" then?" ... I hope that people who conceived this episode can reat this post and can feel all my blame for what they've done. Feq'lhr and the Gre'thor are waitin' for you.

Well, YOUR HONOR and JURY... Compared to the others, DS9 was very very very lucky to have "Weekend at Keevan's" as nonsense episode. Instead of stereotyped Irish men and a Vulcan that can conceive only hazing as human feeling, we have heroic Ferengis! Instead of themes as "WAR RAPE" treated as a "FILLER RUMOR in the SCRIPT" we have PURE COMEDY!
*Is Vulcan a well known place for ear plastic surgeon? No, of course, it is an obvious in-joke about "that tv servies with dat pointy-heared guy"
*Is "Moogie" relevant for Dominion's war? NO way. She 'll be really relevant for Ferenginar, as a feminist leader. Does it disturbs the Founder FEMALE leader? Of course, not
*Compared to WWII, what's the Ferenginar's role during the Dominion Wars? Switzerland
*Nog, wearing Starfleet uniform, in a rescue mission not under the Starfleet? uhmmm...
*A Vorta prisoner, during the Dominion War, delivered to a Ferengi commando with the consenus of the Starfleet C.C.?
*Is Iggy Pop a Vorta? This maybe... lol...

Too many YATIs for a single episode, ain't it? But, the Rules of Acquisition 4747 says: "A charming story about the re-acquisition of a beverage means further gain. If it is interrupted by heroic war stories, invent an even more heroic story"... Your Honor, Quark simply LIED, shamelessly lied. All the episode "The Magnificent Ferengi" is a genial lie, a story all in the head of Quark, that we believed real UNTIL TODAY! Have u ever heard about Yelgrun? No. Quark sold us a fantastic story, with a princess to save, plot twists (a psycho Ferengi not interested into latinum?!?!), some badassic villains vs some inglorious basterds, an enhanced Bernie Lomax in a place (Empok Nor) much more exotic than the Hamptons' beaches, starships, laser shots, treason, heroism, happy end, ear surgery and... finally... An ALIEN-ONLY EPISODE in a series (Star Trek) that is supposedly based on ALINES and, instead, shows a Galaxy suspiciously full of Earthlings... Everywhere.

Quark offered us 40 mins of pure comedy for only 50 latinum bars stolen to his buddies. Your Honor, I ask Quark to be paroled, because there is no crime evidence against the "Holy Canon". This episode was, neither more or less, than a Holodeck story gently donated by him. The guilty one are us, that believed it real! But this lie, that increased squill's profits and respects the Rules of Acquisition, respects the Canon. You would a greedy Ferengi mocking us with a fascinating comedic novel to increase his earnings? Here it is! And, considering that the episode was first aired in early 1998, and we discovered the magnificent lie only today, 20 years after (20!!!); does this not remarks the "evil" and wise business genius of Quark, perfectly in line with the "Holy Canon"? Your Honor, this is a duty to Justice: absolve him, absolve the "Magnificent Ferengi" from any charge or we'll have a trekkie future with drunk brawling captains stabbing ensigns in the Ten Forward, with Guinan as bookmaker. Let Justice triunph and... Enjoy a Syrup of Squill!!!

And please, for Roddenberry's sake, LET SOMEBODY GO ON EMPOK NOR AND SWITCH-OFF KEEVAN!!! :-D

PS: my harangue is ended... And i'm still waitin' for my 20 latinum bars from Quark... Great Trekkie Canon, dat's the spirit! :-D
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