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Re: DS9 S7: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
Another Ron Moore winner, love spy thrillers, enjoyed this episode a lot.
Although the discussion about morality and neccessity of secret services is fun, it's also naive and overly intellectual. Granted, it's probably proper as far as the role of those kind of organizations in peace time is concerned - overturning foreign governments and constant meddling in other nations' affairs certainyl goes against ideals of freedom and democracy.
But if there's a war, you have only two choices - to defend yourself or die. Most people would certainly choose the former one. It's not only a question of duty, but quite frankly common sense as well. And since war involves much more than maybem at battlefields, defending yourself also involves much more than just shooting from a machine gun or driving a tank. For that reason an organization like Section 31 (or CIA for that matter) is a crucial and justified part of the war effort.
Another Ron Moore winner, love spy thrillers, enjoyed this episode a lot.
Although the discussion about morality and neccessity of secret services is fun, it's also naive and overly intellectual. Granted, it's probably proper as far as the role of those kind of organizations in peace time is concerned - overturning foreign governments and constant meddling in other nations' affairs certainyl goes against ideals of freedom and democracy.
But if there's a war, you have only two choices - to defend yourself or die. Most people would certainly choose the former one. It's not only a question of duty, but quite frankly common sense as well. And since war involves much more than maybem at battlefields, defending yourself also involves much more than just shooting from a machine gun or driving a tank. For that reason an organization like Section 31 (or CIA for that matter) is a crucial and justified part of the war effort.
Re: DS9 S7: Afterimage
Raider - oh c'mon now, there's a huuuge competition there, especially Voyager is chock full of boring and pointless characters. I really don't think Ezri is the worst of the bunch. Compared with such memorable bores like Kim, Chakotay, Torres, Neelix, both Crushers, pretty much the whole crew of NX01 except the doctor...at least she's pretty.
Raider - oh c'mon now, there's a huuuge competition there, especially Voyager is chock full of boring and pointless characters. I really don't think Ezri is the worst of the bunch. Compared with such memorable bores like Kim, Chakotay, Torres, Neelix, both Crushers, pretty much the whole crew of NX01 except the doctor...at least she's pretty.
Re: DS9 S5: In the Cards
Ugh, what a discussion. Just points
- Eliott's tragedy is he thinks people dismiss him because they can't bear the full might of his poignant and valid arguments.
- Communism can't work. People tried for the duration of 20th century and milions died trying. Thousands still do.
- As already stated, even society with replicators would absolutely need some sort of currency and private ownership. There'll always be a lot of things that can't be replicated.
- Lofton is a better actor than Wheaton by a parsec.
- Ian - Enterprise is best forgotten except the 3rd season which was absolutely terrific.
- This episode was great.
Ugh, what a discussion. Just points
- Eliott's tragedy is he thinks people dismiss him because they can't bear the full might of his poignant and valid arguments.
- Communism can't work. People tried for the duration of 20th century and milions died trying. Thousands still do.
- As already stated, even society with replicators would absolutely need some sort of currency and private ownership. There'll always be a lot of things that can't be replicated.
- Lofton is a better actor than Wheaton by a parsec.
- Ian - Enterprise is best forgotten except the 3rd season which was absolutely terrific.
- This episode was great.
Re: DS9 S5: Soldiers of the Empire
Boring?! Wwrrrrhaaa, knife to your ribs! Another fantastic Klingon episode with a very original take on a crew with crushed morale. Yeah, Sisko made a pretty stupid decision to let Dax tag along but otherwise it was great. And the solution our Microbrain devised had a Solomon artfulness to it. Kaplah.
Boring?! Wwrrrrhaaa, knife to your ribs! Another fantastic Klingon episode with a very original take on a crew with crushed morale. Yeah, Sisko made a pretty stupid decision to let Dax tag along but otherwise it was great. And the solution our Microbrain devised had a Solomon artfulness to it. Kaplah.
Re: DS9 S5: Rapture
Man, do I agree with the review here. Another fantastic take on religion, with all the complexity and subtlety we're used to from DS9.
Although I also think Brooks' acting awkwardness and directing averageness almost kills the episode. But the script is so strong it's manageable. If Sisko were played by Patrick Stewart and the episode directed by David Livingstone (who did a stellar job on "Visitor"), this would be right up there with Inner Light.
Man, do I agree with the review here. Another fantastic take on religion, with all the complexity and subtlety we're used to from DS9.
Although I also think Brooks' acting awkwardness and directing averageness almost kills the episode. But the script is so strong it's manageable. If Sisko were played by Patrick Stewart and the episode directed by David Livingstone (who did a stellar job on "Visitor"), this would be right up there with Inner Light.
Re: DS9 S4: Accession
Sure, DS is not so loved as TOS or TNG preciesly because of the brooding political/religious overkill and not enough brawls, warp speed chases and Q's pranks (at least in the first 3 seasons) but episodes like Accession lift the show above the common TV averageness (just like TNG and "Measure of a Man").
It discusses extremelly intriguing and important issues - cultural and mental development of a society, relevance of religion in a modern age, losing faith, reconciling old and new traditions, the importance of thinking for yourself and so much more.
And to the guys who criticize the episode for being shallow and "urealistic" - remember it's a 40 minutes TV episode, not a 500 pages novel. Considering those limitations it's a miracle what the authors managed to pull of.
Sure, DS is not so loved as TOS or TNG preciesly because of the brooding political/religious overkill and not enough brawls, warp speed chases and Q's pranks (at least in the first 3 seasons) but episodes like Accession lift the show above the common TV averageness (just like TNG and "Measure of a Man").
It discusses extremelly intriguing and important issues - cultural and mental development of a society, relevance of religion in a modern age, losing faith, reconciling old and new traditions, the importance of thinking for yourself and so much more.
And to the guys who criticize the episode for being shallow and "urealistic" - remember it's a 40 minutes TV episode, not a 500 pages novel. Considering those limitations it's a miracle what the authors managed to pull of.
Re: DS9 S4: Hard Time
Another Inner Light-like episode but I dunno...I tend to agree with Gaius Maximus - "The message of the show seems to me to be that 20 years of brutal imprisonment will really mess a guy up, and I didn't need 40 minutes of show to tell me that."
Personally I didn't mind that much the depresiveness. Much of DS9 is dark and depressing and I like it. The biggest problem for me was that the episode is so damn obvious and therefore boring. First few minutes are intriguing but then you have pretty good idea what's gonna happen. Sure, you don't know how precisely would O'Brien's mental condition manifest itself but it's clear that he'll be confused and his family will be hurting. The rest is just like an illustration of the book you've already read.
Another Inner Light-like episode but I dunno...I tend to agree with Gaius Maximus - "The message of the show seems to me to be that 20 years of brutal imprisonment will really mess a guy up, and I didn't need 40 minutes of show to tell me that."
Personally I didn't mind that much the depresiveness. Much of DS9 is dark and depressing and I like it. The biggest problem for me was that the episode is so damn obvious and therefore boring. First few minutes are intriguing but then you have pretty good idea what's gonna happen. Sure, you don't know how precisely would O'Brien's mental condition manifest itself but it's clear that he'll be confused and his family will be hurting. The rest is just like an illustration of the book you've already read.
Re: DS9 S4: Return to Grace
I agree with most Jammer's reviews, this one is where we part. Return to Grace is IMO one of the best episodes of DS9, hands down. A fantastic blend of a focused character development and a fun romp. Alaimo is absolutely fantastic and Visitor watchable, for once. The writers did a really good job with Dukat, at the end of the series he ends up being one of the richest and most developed characters of the whole ST universe.
I agree with most Jammer's reviews, this one is where we part. Return to Grace is IMO one of the best episodes of DS9, hands down. A fantastic blend of a focused character development and a fun romp. Alaimo is absolutely fantastic and Visitor watchable, for once. The writers did a really good job with Dukat, at the end of the series he ends up being one of the richest and most developed characters of the whole ST universe.
Re: DS9 S4: The Visitor
Just an addition to my comment about how average Avery is - roll to around 28th min, where he's sitting on a sofa with Junior and says: "Talk to me. I've missed so much. Let's not waste what little time we have." What a terrible delivery.
Just an addition to my comment about how average Avery is - roll to around 28th min, where he's sitting on a sofa with Junior and says: "Talk to me. I've missed so much. Let's not waste what little time we have." What a terrible delivery.
Re: DS9 S4: The Visitor
This tries to be the DS9 Inner Light and although it does surprisingly good, it's got nowhere near the emotional impact of IL.
The reason I say surprisingly is because I didn't imagine there can be a really good "emotional" episode within the DS9 universe or any other Star Trek except TNG. The only reason Inner Light could work so well is without doubt Patrick Stewart, the only truly first class actor ever cast in ST. Avery Brooks is just too much of a one-dimensional TV actor to pull off anything more subtle than "Sisko to the bridge, give me the status report". And the strange girl was certainly no Margot Rose.
But it has its moments, the directing is excellent, Todd's AND Lofton's (yes) performance is eminently watchable and some scenes (like the Kira-Jake one) truly stand out. But it's NOT Inner Light.
This tries to be the DS9 Inner Light and although it does surprisingly good, it's got nowhere near the emotional impact of IL.
The reason I say surprisingly is because I didn't imagine there can be a really good "emotional" episode within the DS9 universe or any other Star Trek except TNG. The only reason Inner Light could work so well is without doubt Patrick Stewart, the only truly first class actor ever cast in ST. Avery Brooks is just too much of a one-dimensional TV actor to pull off anything more subtle than "Sisko to the bridge, give me the status report". And the strange girl was certainly no Margot Rose.
But it has its moments, the directing is excellent, Todd's AND Lofton's (yes) performance is eminently watchable and some scenes (like the Kira-Jake one) truly stand out. But it's NOT Inner Light.
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