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Cenotaph
Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 8:00pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Stardust City Rag

I'll spend as much time on my review as the writing team did creating this show.
1/5

I gave this a fair shot, but it fails on a lot of fronts. Picard is not Picard, and this is not Star Trek. CBS used it's name for the usual marketing purposes, but didn't bother actually investing time and money into understanding its source material. We end up with a generic Sci fi show with a weak narrative, and plot and no interesting characters to speak of. Another wasted opportunity.
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Cenotaph
Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 7:30pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Absolute Candor

This tired old racism narrative is dragged out again, are there no more interesting themes to explore? No because this is current day identity politics at play and Star Trek is used as the vehicle to make a point. Yaawn!
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Cenotaph
Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 3:54am (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: The End Is the Beginning

This show hasn't picked up at all.
The general plot line is a very straight forward, find the girl, she is important somehow (or a bad omen). Intertwined with all of this are very weak developed antagonists that do not feel dangerous or present any real threat to Picard and Co.
It all feels by the numbers and uninspired. I'm waiting for the moment where this opens up into something more. 1/5
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Cenotaph
Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 6:34am (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

@Booming your arrogance yet again makes assumptions, I wasn't triggered at your little Einstein reference, but rather how certain you seem to be of who I am.
I concede I dont know the ins and outs of the political terminology, I never said I knew it but there you go thinking to score points against what i said about socialists and their weakness. You dont have to band together with your fellow comrade Trent to make a point. Second, I dont have the time or the inclination to write page full arguments against all the nonsense that Trent et al is spouting out and my few one liners should suffice for those that actually bother to do some verification. I think we're done here.
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Cenotaph
Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 1:15am (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

@Booming such an arrogance on display, forgive me for not having studied political science and not adhering to the correct terms. It's obvious you have an axe to grind against anything that is advocating for less government and in your indoctrinated mind that is a bad thing.
We're not going to agree, in my mind and as history has already proven, government does not create wealth for the masses only private enterprise does that.

@Gerontius the BBC and freedom? that is laughable, they're more in the business of news manipulation than the truth. It's long the arm of socialism and its propaganda against freedom and truth. If you're against their message they will be out to hurt you. You can ask Tommy Robinson how many times he's been misrepresented by the BBC and other media. It's appalling.

@Trent, here's another socialist railing against conservatism, you find boxes to put them such that you dont have to argue against their points. Always using the oil industry or some other institute you dont agree with to pain them in a bad light. There's nothing wrong with Rand, there's nothing wrong with the oil industry per say.

Stefan Molyneux is not a right wing extremist, you're lying and again you don't argue against points he brings up. It's a disgusting tactic you're using and honestly you need to look at yourself what you're doing, it's just appalling.
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Cenotaph
Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:47am (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

@Peter G. That may be true for specific special interest groups, but that does not define Libertarians in the general sense at all and definitely not Ben Shapiro et al.

The fact there's free market does not mean it's a free for all for companies to do as they please. If they can it's because of corruption in the system of government and how they deal with corporations specifically.
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Cenotaph
Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:04am (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

@Peter G. what propaganda may that be? Who benefits? The idea of Freedom as they put it is self determination/individualism, and not control by government / group think that Liberals/Socialists advocate for. We all know how damaging that ideology has been, there are numerous examples in history to point to.
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Cenotaph
Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:01am (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

@Trent Classic Liberal is meant as a term to differentiate it from what today is considered to be liberalism, which is completely different from its "classic" roots of free markets with minimal government. I'm not that deeply knowledgeable in all the intricacies of the term, but to use it against those internet pundits you mentioned is rather short sighted. They do no advocate for the teachings of Rand at all, you seem to have an agenda set against them and its not a rational one.
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Cenotaph
Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 6:08am (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

@Booming

You're unaware of the terms and don't bother to do a google search, it's really quite simple. A brief explanation;
- A classic liberal is basically a libertarian, you can look this up a google search away. They value independence and the free markets without constraint in a nutshell.

This is vastly different from the Liberal term used these days which is more akin to what the new age movement brought about. An emphasis on feelings rather than scientific fact.

Hence we come to modern day politics in both the USA and across Europe this new age liberalism as I call it does not care about facts, it care about feelings and putting people into boxes. Racism is rampant in their thinking. You can look online how many times racial discussions are happening across the media without there actually being any cause for it. This is where Star Trek draws upon, this incessant focus on race and minority group suppression. You probably don't agree, but the parallels are obvious to me
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Cenotaph
Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 10:47pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

@Booming
"Do people in the US or wherever now just throw buzzwords together to make nonsensical points? What does a 1960s-70s movement about personal spirituality and a center left political movement have to do with this show??!

In what way is ST:P esoteric? And who is surprised that a STAR TREK show will have a pro refugee message?? Have you seen Star Trek?!! "

I've seen STar Trek and I'm surprised you ask this question because in ST it was always about a positive message and it was never about these silly racism questions this show throws up. This show obviously draws parallels with current day USA and its political climate from the perspective of new age liberals (classic liberals are libertarians after all!).
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Cenotaph
Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 10:30pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

What surprised me is that the OP is so positive about this show when it's clear that the showrunners have no clue about Star Trek and its lore. Hence they chose the Kelvin timeline so they don't have to do their work researching backgrounds of each race and the political climate.
What we get is some kind of new age liberal interpretation of the current state of the world applied to Star Trek. Screenplay writers that can't write compelling dialogue and it only held up by good acting here and there.
I guess the fact that the Star Trek name is attached to this makes people watch it, as a Sci Fi show it's an embarrassment and especially when we compare it against the older shows or for instance The Expanse.
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Cenotaph
Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 8:02pm (UTC -6)
Re: PIC S1: Maps and Legends

The show is already a big disappointment. The dialogue is features over exposition, it's generally uninteresting to listen to and the plot, because they've gone with the Kelvin timeline, is nonsensical. The fact they went along with carbon copy JJ's vision should be worrying for the longevity of this series.
I'm giving this and the previous episodes 1 star, the only thing the show is doing well so far is the CGI.
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