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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 4:31pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

It has been a pleasure.
This is goodby
I wish you all the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkJ3--2K7yo&ab_channel=PrometheusOfVideos
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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 2:45pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

But if she gets rid of him quickly then she could be President for 11 years!!! Maybe you haven't heard but she is a radical leftist. The Soviet Union of America is coming, comrade!
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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 2:43pm (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S1: Past Prologue

Guderian could I convince you to change your name to somebody who didn't plan a general attack plan for the Wehrmacht?
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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 1:17pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

The Expanse is a great show, it actually gets better form season to season but starting it now... man it's not very uplifting.
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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 1:14pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

ok ok NO, don't tell Jammer to watch the Expanse!

1. Jammer is a German noun meaning misery (unrelated point)
2. In these times the only thing I would recommend to an American is Xanax or hugging your loved ones, whatever is closer.
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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 11:59am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

Ok but the these specific camera rotations were unusual. Could it be that they realized that if they don't confuse the audience on every level then the audience would realize that this is all garbage?!!
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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 11:36am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

@Dave in MN
By the way I will soon start counting down. You said that before his first year is over Kamala (not the drug from nBSG) will 25ing Biden. If that doesn't come true then you will have to give back your crystal ball to the clairvoyance society! :)
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Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 10:06am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

When you hire the writer of Transformers 1 and 2 aka Kurtzman then you know what you want. Maybe that is the reason for Burnham as a character. Kurtzman making amends for the horribly sexist and pretty racist Transformer movies.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:28pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

Great Review!

Completely forgot that they dropped the music thing. There were several long scenes about it and it lead to nothing...

"so I guess all those people died and societies collapsed so we could learn the universe can just blow up whenever because of whatever. Um, yay?"
Hahaha Words to live by. :D

I very disappointed that Jammer didn't mention crazy desk guy from the second episode. He is now a LT.. Maybe he went to online starfleet academy? Nice that they got him back and then probably told him that they are sorry that he, his father and grandfather had live on this forgotten station doing what a simple beacon could have done. I still wonder where the mothers went... Crazy desk guy never mentioned them.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 1:40pm (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

My general point was that the quote is too broad as to actually be meaningful. From you I just wanted to hear a justification why one example is ok while the other is not. No need for insults.

End of conversation.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 11:13am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

@Peter G
A military base or lets say the Capitol is public property. In the end it is a limit of your freedom of movement imposed by the state.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 11:10am (UTC -6)
Re: TOS S3: Plato's Stepchildren

Are you talking about the Politea? I have read it.
You have to see it in context. It is heavily influenced by the Spartan state to no small part because Socrates was sentenced to death by the Athenian democracy. Sure living in Plato's state doesn't sound appealing but his whole thinking was influenced by the constant warfare of the Greek States that is why he created this extremely static society model. No major inequalities are allowed. The children are taken away because the strongest reason for people to break rules apart from greed is to help their children.

And about philosophy from that time. Aristotle starts his major political work (politics) with a justification for slavery. Lots of messed up stuff from our viewpoint.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 10:54am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

@Peter G
The quote doesn't imply that. And I find your conceptualization a little vague. What is the difference between not being allowed to enter a military installation and not being allowed to leave a prison. In both cases the state tells you that you are not allowed to move freely and if you try it anyway then you will be punished.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 9:59am (UTC -6)
Re: TNG S4: The Drumhead

It may sound nice but it is actually not a very good quote. What about prison? Isn't that limiting freedom. What about military installations? I want to walk into the weapons depot. What about airports?I want to jog on the runway! What about state secrets? I want to know where all the nuclear submarines are! There are millions of things that limit ones freedom, you know why? Because complete freedom is just anarchy.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 1:52am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

@gunslinger
ok I will give you a few pointers.
Roddenberry's vision was that in Star Trek humanity had made it. We were past greed, poverty, intolerance. Basically humanity was living in paradise. People would spent their lives doing what they love not what they have to because of financial needs. Also no real interpersonal conflicts. And because humanity had made it, problems that bother us today only occur in other species, so that this more evolved humanity can be an inspirational tale about how great the future could be if we have grown out of our infancy. One could name other aspects like a real appreciation for science.

None of that is in NuTrek.
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Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 1:44am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

@The Queen
Of course I don't know if she is lying but I try to remember that these people get payed probably millions certainly a lot to write this stuff. If CBS tells her, come on our little podcast for and tell them that the science is totally real, would she refuse? I'm not even sure that I would.
But you could be right, maybe the scientists they hired are the ones who are told to lie. I don't believe that anybody with any degree could be so incompetent as to present any of this as inspired by science. Maybe they have a system? She asks the scientist always like this:"Could it be possible that feeling too much could make a crystal explode?" to which the scientist always says:"It could be possible but..." She then always cuts the scientist off:" Ok, that is all we need to know."


By the way people. The last two episode were rated on imdb
ep12: 6.9
ep13: 6.6

Only 4 episodes this season made it past 7.0 ep1,2,3,5 while season 1 and 2 only had one episode below 7.0 each. At least on imdb season 3 is by far the weakest with an average of 6.6 (The shows average stands at 7.2)
For context the current season of the Expanse with six episodes in has an average of 8.85. Two of the episodes are rated above 9 and none below 8 and the series average is 8.5.

(DS9 has a series average of 8.0 and TNG 8.6)
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Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 7:34am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

Walked past... sooooooooorry
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Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 7:32am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

I think so, as well. Yesterday I saw Jammer walk down a street and a really cute puppy walked passed him and he did NOT react at all. It made me so sad that when an equally cute but different puppy walked passed me a few minutes later I barely noticed. :(
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Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 3:03am (UTC -6)
Re: DS9 S3: Fascination

@DJ Worf Nuts
I never understood why people hated Keiko. I guess it could be the nagging wife factor. Men spent a lot of energy ignoring that drinking too much and eating unhealthy will send them to an early grave or that not spending time with your children early on will lead to a cold relation in later years.

A more generalized version could be the hate for vegetarians. Most people have a problem with killing animals while at the same time enjoying eating meat. The moral conflict is mostly ignored. Vegetarians are a constant reminder of this ignored inner conflict. Same goes for Keiko. Her role for the most part is to tell Miles (the everyman) to act responsibly. So instead of actually living according to what they know to be responsible considering their position in life they rather dislike the person that reminds them of what responsible behavior is because she makes it harder to ignore what they deep down know to be true.
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Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 1:58am (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

@Daya
Yeah, it was pretty obnoxious. Luckily I was rolling my eyes so much that it often lined up with the camera movement.

@SlackerInc
In film studies it is mostly about authorial intent or death of the author. Saying that a cultural product is just what the company says it is, seems like an extreme idea.
But on the other hand I'm fairly sure that if you ask 1000 people

Do you think
a) cannibalism is always wrong
b) cannibalism is wrong most of the time
c) cannibalism is wrong sometimes
d) do you have some fava beans and a nice chianti

a few people will choose d.
I really shouldn't be surprised by these kind of answers considering what I'm doing. So yeah if that person wants to think that Star Trek is just a name that can be used by a company for anything it wants then my reaction to that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plteXDmbA2I&ab_channel=Liz90Lemon
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Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 1:08pm (UTC -6)
Re: DSC S3: That Hope Is You, Part 2

Well, if the powers that be say it is Star Trek then it is Star Trek. Good job.
https://vmncleadership.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/30rock-s2e4-7-39.png

Define Star Trek: A name that belongs to a company.
Nice.
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Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 10:28am (UTC -6)
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@Eric Jensen
"Just like the Orb of Time etc, it is fictional."
All the Orbs are a lame concept. I was never a big fan of these aspects of DS9. It all more or less lead to JesusSisko pushing Dukatsatan off a cliff into hell.

" Just like Warp Drive is fictional, but Alcubierre found a solution that can allow for warping space."
That is really different for two reasons. First, the foundation of both concepts is not that far apart. Manipulating space to fly faster than light. Both are drive systems. Second, you need a way to break the light speed barrier because without there would be no show. Same goes for the universal translator. I can accept a few shaky soft sci fi stuff when they are needed for the world to function.

The great galaxy wide space mushroom which enables Discovery to reach any point instantaneously on the other hand is just plain nonsense. There is no indication that anything like that exists and even less that it could be used for travailing everywhere.

The "time crystals" in Discovery make you see the future and can be used for time travel or rapid aging. The so far hypothetical concept of the actual time crystal doesn't go past some interesting structural features in relation to spacetime.
No scientist will tell you that these crystal will ever be used for time travel or anything the show indicates. It is fantasy. A Macguffin to get Discovery from a to b and then the idea is tossed. Never heard of again.
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Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 9:26am (UTC -6)
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@Eric Jensen
Ok, this seems to be like the space fungus. There are huge fungi systems on earth but there is absolutely zero indication that the entire galaxy is kept together by giant mushroom.
The time crystals you mentioned have absolutely nothing in common with the time crystals in Discovery. It is almost science tokenism.
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Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 7:47am (UTC -6)
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@Eric Jensen
Please elaborate
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Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 6:00am (UTC -6)
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@The Queen
"Booming, regarding the science: I always watch the Ready Room after the episode, and in this one Michelle Paradise went on about how she’s a science geek and always reading “that stuff,” I think she called it, and how grateful she was that they had actual physicists advising them so that their science didn’t get too far out of hand."
I don't believe that. The Ready Room is a show that is completely financed by CBS, if I'm not mistaken. It is basically advertisement. The interviews of the Stars and showrunner are as hard hitting as a Trump interview on Fox and Friends.

Full disclosure, I'm not a physicist but the limited amount I know about that subject makes me question something like dark matter asteroids. Even more laughable is stuff like time crystals. If we want to limit ourselves to tech from this season. There was the programmable matter that can do anything and combatches that are transporter, holoprojector and communicator in one. In both cases I wonder were the energy for these processes is created/comes from.
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