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Bill
Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 6:33pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S5: Warhead

Gee what's this bomb shaped object I wonder. Let's beam it on to our ship like a bunch of fucking regards and take half an episode to figure the bomb that looks like a bomb is a bomb.
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Bill Stella
Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 10:28pm (UTC -5)
Re: ORV S2: Lasting Impressions

I’d like to know more about the song.
(Don’t hate me if it’s well-known. I’m just unfamiliar) A quick search of maybe-the-title, All I Have To Tell You, didn’t bring up anything useful. Can anyone help with composer, actual title, etc?
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Bill
Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 1:02pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Project Daedalus

"You could get around that like a level 1 super strong force field. Thinking about how control controlled... Airiam poses more questions than it answers."

Another point is that Pike doesn't know which systems Airiam has compromised. Perhaps she has already setup access from the brig or reprogrammed the transporter system. If transporting her back to the ship is the rational move, it would also be rational to assume the A.I has already anticipated this. If the A.I comes from a distant future where it is capable of destroying all biological life, it would be prudent not to underestimate its capabilities. Especially since, the *only* people who know about its plans and therefore have the ability to stop it are on the Discovery.

Even if there is only a 1% chance that transporting Airiam back would allow the A.I to complete its mission, if that is a 1% chance of total extinction, it is still pretty high.
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Bill
Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 6:05am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: Project Daedalus

@Daya

"- Why is Control attacking the Discovery with mines if it wants Airiam to transfer her memory to it?"

To disable Discovery's warp and impulse engines, so she can't escape?
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Bill
Sat, Mar 9, 2019, 9:02am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves

@Timo47

"Did you miss that they were going to use the spore drive to get to Talos IV? But couldn't only because it was sabotaged? After that, Ash is confronted with this codes being used for the secret transmissions and confined to this quarters. Then Pike comes up with the plan to set course for Starbase 11. It's around the 40 minute mark. "

No, that's what I meant by its initial use. Trent said the episode ended with them trying to use the spore drive, so I assumed he was referring to an additional attempt to use it.
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Bill
Sat, Mar 9, 2019, 7:48am (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves

@The Gorn

"So, the Talosians can project illusions into the minds of distant visitors, fine.
Yet in this episode, they could even fool the foreign sensor array of the shuttle into believing that there is a black hole in their flight path. Uh huh. Or was it just a product of Michael's vivid imagination? I get the feeling that the producers are desperate to generate at least one thrill a minute to prop up this show."

Didn't you answer your own question? Surely it is easier for the Talosians to convince Michael that the computor is reporting a black hole, than it is to alter the data in the sensor array?
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Bill
Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 7:51pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves

@Hank:

Yes, but this doesn't end the episode like Trent stated. Also, as far as I remember (again, I could be wrong), they last used the Spore Drive at the end of the fifth episode to rescue Tilly, and they haven't used it since then because they haven't needed to, and also I imagine because of its potential cost.

But if rescuing Spock and deciphering the Red Angel's signals could affect the fate of the universe, then I think there is a case to be made for authorising its use in this instance. That doesn't mean all future repercussions have been ignored.
I think the only limitation you can make a case was completely ignored was the health implications for Stamets of using the Spore Drive, but that was more of a season 1 to season 2 thing.

And yeah, perhaps it is better to use a general term like "character attacks" rather than ad hominems, because the latter depends on a contentious claim about what the underlying argument actually is. But as I see it, attacking someone's character is not going to encourage them to see your point of view, and what really matters are the arguments for a position, not the supposed inadequacies of the people that fail to hold it.
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Bill
Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 6:41pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves

@Hank

"He said "try to use" not "used". If we are nitpicking attention spans here... "

I'm aware of that, but I can't find any point where the Spore Drive was even mentioned after its initial use. I could be wrong (being an imperfect human being!), but I am happy to be corrected if you can point me to the minute mark where they attempted to use it again.
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Bill
Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 6:31pm (UTC -5)
Re: DSC S2: If Memory Serves

@Trent

"The episode ends with Pike trying to use the Spore Drive, which apparently is no longer off-limits, a health risk to Stamets, or an environmental risk to the universe. Meanwhile Spock has begun to transition from Edgy Spock - wouldn't it be cool if the ordinarily calm and composed Spock were unhinged and insane! nobody but Kurtzman wonders - into Old School Spock."

Seriously? Your entire post is dedicated to criticising fans of Discovery for their supposed attentional deficits, yet you yourself don't pay attention to the end of the episode long enough to note that they *warp* into space at the end?

It reminds me not to take seriously those that try to replace argument with ad hominems.
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Bill Bunkum
Fri, Feb 23, 2018, 1:24pm (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S7: Homestead

I really enjoyed this episode. As 'boiler-plate' as it may have been, I agree with most that it's heartfelt - that's pretty good storytelling, if you ask me, to affect the viewer.

I'm glad Neelix gets a dignified send off. He's so often the goof or the comic relief, a sort of static character, I sometimes wondered how he survived on his own. This episode (and, others of course) show him as having unequivocally grown, as dynamic, at the end of a long journey and as fully realized that he must move forward with his life.

His time on Voyager has run its course, and yet, he will be sorely missed during the rest of their journey. Whatever this episode does, it resonates with me and I find myself melancholy afterward. Pretty awesome.
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Billy
Wed, Feb 21, 2018, 9:48am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Real Life

Just realised that the actress who played Belle was also Lord Burleighs daughter.

And the mother now plays Francine in Family Guy!
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Billy
Wed, Feb 21, 2018, 3:03am (UTC -5)
Re: VOY S3: Favorite Son

It was fun. End of.
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Bill
Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 2:31pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: Spectre of the Gun

Interesting episode, the first of Season 3 produced.

Another good looking production. The plan was to shoot the Tombstone material on location, but thanks to the slashed budget, they couldn't afford it. There was no money for extras, transportation, and catering. So was born the clever idea that the town was put together from Kirk's spotty memory. I was glad to see what money was left was used for that great buoy miniature plus a non-humanoid alien. (Yeah, yeah, I know the Melkotian was obscured by the mist it could have been a sock puppet for all we knew, lol!)
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Bill
Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 2:19pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: Is There In Truth No Beauty?

This was actually a pretty good one. (Funny how the TOS bottle shows were often among the better episodes.) The use of the organ in the score set the tone for one eerie episode. And Kollos being non-corporeal and so alien his appearance drove humans insane was a great (and budget-friendly) idea.

Once and for all, the Enterprise did not get lost in the barrier at the edge of the galaxy. When it passed warp 9.5, it somehow breached the barrier between our space-time continuum and wherever they ended up. The stock footage of the ship flying into the BATEOTG in the 60s original was for budget reasons. The drippy colors void the ship was stranded in in the 60s original (not to mention the blue-green energy flare void in the remastered version) look nothing like the BATEOTG.

The woman who wrote this (and "All Our Yersterdays") used to come into a store I worked in when I was younger. I got to know her a little and she was quite a thoughtful and elegant person.
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Bill
Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 1:01pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: The Paradise Syndrome

Usually not one to nitpick on plot points, it just always irked me here that this super-advanced race dedicated to transplanting endangered species to give them a chance to flourish and develop would place the Indians on a planet that was so obviously threatened by constant asteroid collisions they needed to give them a deflector mechanism and create a religion in order for them to operate it.

I know this wasn't stated in the final cut. It comes from earlier drafts of the script (and is mentioned in the James Blish adaptation ). But really, unless the obelisk is some kind of all in one Swiss Army knife problem solver, the existence of a dedicated deflector begs explaining.

If this had been a NexGen episode, I wonder if we'd've had a debate on whether or not deflecting the asteroid was a Prime Directive issue, lol!
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Bill
Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 10:25am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S3: Spock's Brain

The thing that impressed me most about this episode was that they spent some money on it. With a bargain basement budget, sixth in production order, and we got a new spaceship miniature (not much to look at, but at least it wasn't the generic spot of light we'd gotten in most of the second season), a new planet miniature for the orbit shots, and the rear screen projection set-up on the bridge viewer. Not too shabby.

And I can't help but add that that bridge scene was a highlight. Kirk pacing in front of a moving starfield, the staff contributing like the professionals they were, it was awesome.
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Bill
Fri, Feb 16, 2018, 7:13pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: Operation--Annihilate!

The mystery of of what happened to Peter Kirk.

A tag scene was removed for time from the final cut where we would have seen Peter on the bridge sitting in the captain's chair in his miniature Starfleet uniform. Kirk would enter and they'd exposit on how Peter would be returning to Deneva to live with his father's research partner and his family.

If you believe that James Cawley's Phase II is canon, Peter SORASed into an Academy graduate who was assigned to the Enterprise late in the five-year mission as a redshirt...oops! I mean security officer.
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Bill
Fri, Feb 16, 2018, 6:59pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Alternative Factor

Just plain awful. No reason to wonder why this was held back and put in the stinker slot as next-to-last episode of the season, huh?

There might have been a good story here, but multiple circumstances doomed this poor episode. First, they removed a huge sub-plot where Charlene Masters was supposed to be in love with stable Lazarus and taken advantage of (not that way!) by the unstable one. Roddenberry and company didn't want two scripts (this and the up and coming "Space Seed") have crew women who forgot their duty by going gaga over a handsome face. So Lt. Masters just became the engineer (in blue) who was in charge of the Lithium Crystal Recharging Section.

(Recharging the crystals? Hm, that would have been a nice thing to be able to do in future...)

And when it came time to shoot this gutted script, the guest star (John Drew Barrymore) decides to up and not show up on the first day of filming. And to not answer his phone when they called. They shot around him and hired Robert Brown ASAP, altered the costume, glued some random beard on him, and shoved him in front of the cameras. Not a good situation even if the script had been top notch.
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Bill
Fri, Feb 16, 2018, 12:29pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: Arena

@Adam: "If they had just followed the original ["Arena"] short story (which is considered to be one of the best ever written in the sci fi genre) it would have been a great episode. Fredric Brown is credited with the story, but I wonder how much he was involved in the actual episode; or if it is just a reference to his short story that the show is based on, with the teleplay being a major rewrite.

As the lore goes, this was an original script written at home by Gene Coon at over a three-day weekend just to have something ready to shove into the pipeline. When it was sent to the research company, they were the ones who noted the rather...obvious similarity to Brown's story. Then the Star Trek office contacted Brown and asked permission to base an upcoming episode on his story -- neglecting to mention it was already in pre-production. Fortunately for them, Brown was flattered and agreed.
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Bill
Fri, Feb 16, 2018, 11:05am (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: Mudd's Women

@Moonie - "Clueless. Just clueless. Backwards and disappointing coming from a bunch of SCIENCE FICTION writers. Apparently their 'forward' way of thinking did not include relationships between the sexes (or women in general)."

Science fiction writers had nothing to do with this. The only one to blame for this sexist Old West re-tread was the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself. This was one of his original story ideas in the proposal for the series. Not exactly unexpected when you read about Roddenberry's REAL attitudes toward women.

"Wiving settlers?" Puh-lease!
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Bill
Thu, Feb 15, 2018, 8:22pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Man Trap

Signed off too soon, lol!

The thing I always enjoy about this episode is the crew's familiarity and camaraderie. Sulu, Uhura, and Rand felt more like part of an ensemble with Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, rather than the secondary players they'd become later. Uhura flirting with Spock was another highlight of these early episodes (see "Charlie X' for more).

All of this would be lost when Shatner started to flex his muscles and diminish their roles in favor of Captain Kirk.
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Bill
Thu, Feb 15, 2018, 8:09pm (UTC -5)
Re: TOS S1: The Man Trap

Why was it shown first? The studio felt that sci-fi fans needed to see a monster as well as a strange new world.

And as for the camaraderie being too soon? 60s TV didn't care. There were few story arcs and episodes were meant to be stand alones. They were rarely even broadcast in production order until the end of the season when they were cranking them out barely ahead of airdate. (And even then, some stinker would be held back to be shown second-to-last -- Hello "The Alternative Factor" and "Bread and Circuses"! -- to avoid hurting the ratings.)
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Bill
Thu, Feb 15, 2018, 3:20pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Bloodlines

Thank Patrick Stewart for this one. When the writing staff were out of ideas, they asked him if there was any story he felt needed to be told. He pulled DaiMon Bok out of his backside, saying it was intriguing that there was a man out in the universe who hated him (Picard) so much.

Star Trek deserved a better send off.
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Bill
Thu, Feb 15, 2018, 2:12pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: Masks

An episode in search of a plot. The staff was more interesting in cashing their pay checks than producing fresh entertaining material at this point.

I remember on first watch, I kept waiting for something to happen because I was really caught up in the idea of the archive bringing a dead civilization back from...well, the dead. Then the sun goddess and the moon god had a showdown by proxy and the sun goddess went to sleep and all was right with the world.

I wanted my hour back.

Joe Menosky was participating from the Italian Alps at this point in the series. I hope he enjoyed whatever he was smoking when he shoved this piece of excrement into the fax machine and pushed send.
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Bill
Thu, Feb 15, 2018, 1:25pm (UTC -5)
Re: TNG S7: The Pegasus

A good episode, but I never could understand why everyone else thinks it's in the top ten best episodes of the series. By this time, I was tired of seeing admirals with secret agendas abusing their rank.

Oh, and one thing that really gets under my skin is the timeline. Riker was an ensign aboard the Pegasus twelve years previously. He's been aboard the Enterprise for six of those twelve years at this point. That means that Riker made a meteoric rise through the ranks from Ensign Nobody aboard Pegasus to Commander First Officer of the Hood and then the plum assignment to Enterprise in only SIX YEARS? Really show?

Plus it also means that Riker is 35 during "The Pegasus". Which means he was only 29 when he reported to Enterprise. I couldn't stop laughing the first time I figured that out.

That ranks with "Dark Page" where dialogue basically states Troi is 30 during that episode...meaning Lt. Commander Deanna Troi was a mere 23 years old during "Encounter at Farpoint".

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